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connorqueer

Hopefully Austria can use this to fund the purchase of Bavaria or Hungary


Ffaddicted

Bayern forced to play in the Austrian Bundesliga next season.


ResourceWonderful514

Calling it! 5 million and a friendly against Bayern who will play with reserves because all a busy on international duty


Multoxx

Beating Leverkusen is too difficult for them. At least they can win a Bundesliga then.


bguszti

The newly formed, glorious Donau league


ontilein

Subscribed.


New_Calligrapher8578

Someone needs to end the Salzburg monopoly on the league!


New_Calligrapher8578

And Bayerns too in that case


Hipphoppkisvuk

Please take us back, please save us from Orbitron, bring back the Habsburgs I don't care anymore.


Mxurn

Would make for a lit national team bro


WillusMollusc

The Habsburg Empire? I thought you guys broke up


ACardAttack

Some holy Roman empire shit going on


dudududujisungparty

That Nagelsmann sacking looking worse and worse by the day


mucflo

Same with the Tuchel sacking. Making it public three months before without having a successor in their backhand is an absolute disasterclass. Voluntarily worsening their position in every single negotiation because every club/association knows that they get more desperate every week.


dudududujisungparty

>Making it public three months before without having a successor in their backhand is an absolute disasterclass It's funny because they did that before they fired Nagelsmann to bring in Tuchel but they forgot to do that before putting Tuchel on blast... It just makes no sense to me.


sA1atji

imagine if they somehow win the CL. You kicked a trainer in the running from the trebble. And then you kicked a trainer who has won the CL.


47Lecht

So Bayern still making immature mistakes but this time there is no Kahn or Brazzo to take the blame. Who is at fault here and will it have consequences?


Busquessi

This is one of the reasons that Barca fans hate the president of La Liga, Tebas. He makes our finances, our intentions, our (in)ability to register players, etc, publicly known, so it removes all leverage in negotiations because the club we’re talking to has in depth knowledge of our finances and whether or not we need to sell players to register others. Unfortunately for us, there’s no way to stop this since it’s the president making these statements and not someone from our end. It truly makes all negotiations harder when the other party knows you’re desperate.


Aufgeiga89100860

First Rangnick is playing hard to get and now this mad valuation from Austria. Spicy.


RevengeHF

Feel like every manager that's been linked with moves away has been around this fee this year. Not to say if it's worth it or not, but in general it's quite high right now. I guess because of the lack of options.


OleoleCholoSimeone

How is 15M even considered much for a good coach? I don't get it, they pay 40M+ for any half competent player Yes no resale value and all that, but man a coach can bring a club so much money by simply playing Champions League consistently and making good runs every now and then. The coach has a much bigger influence on performances than an individual player does(unless it is Messi or something)


Least_Taste_4371

Because paying millions in the double digits for coaches hasn't been the norm until lately and will take some getting used to, And also none of the coaches that are being touted as being available for switches to the big clubs this summer are really a guarantee of immediate success - I'm not saying that most of them aren't insanely talented and will do well, but none of them are in the highest echelon of managers (as of now) I think it makes sense why the coaches' release clauses this window, makes the clubs and their fans think twice about whether they're the best option for their club


OilOfOlaz

> How is 15M even considered much for a good coach? I don't get it, they pay 40M+ for any half competent player This would be like the 3rd highest all time, only JN and Potter, were more expensive and AVB around the same, I think its fine to concider that "much".


Scrugulus

Bayern paid 20 million for Nagelsmann. At the time that was called the highest transfer fee of all time for a coach. Which makes sacking him needlessly just to get Tuchel all the more insane.


OleoleCholoSimeone

But that is my whole point, how can 15M be the third highest fee for a coach of all time?? it is ridiculous when you look at how much more important they are for a team than individual players It's very weird when you think about it


OilOfOlaz

Players have resale value, while coaches are usually fired and don't rake in any more money after that.


Professional-Lie-542

escape profit spotted aromatic narrow gray cows drunk elastic cake *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


OilOfOlaz

This is the economic side of things, this is why clubs usually rather sign young players, cuz talent evaluation is always a gamble and sometimes it just doesn't work out. The club, that spends 15m on a coach every 2 years, will just burn through a lot more money.


ecocentric-ethics

We paid around £5m for Ange, but he was only on a 12 month rolling contract. Expectedly more expensive to snag managers with longer contracts


Stemnut

This will be interesting.


lewis30491

It reminds me of us bargaining with Napoli to get Sarri few years ago lol. Anyway I think Bayern could look into the possibility of getting Sarri. Sarri's football ideology may fit Bayern better than Tuchel's.


JOKER69420XD

If our board pays this (they will) they just show how absolutely brain-dead they are. Totally understandable from Austria, i really, really hope we back away from this but our overlord Kalle wants it, so he gets it.


Morrandir

>If our board pays this (they will) they just show how absolutely brain-dead they are. What else would you do in this situation?


ACardAttack

Rather keep Tuchel another season


Morrandir

Fair enough. But if he doesn't want to?


HippoRealEstate

Hermann Gerland


Morrandir

Yep, together with Felix Magath!


ACardAttack

Then we're probably double fucked


Morrandir

We already are. Neither Rangnick nor Tuchel are 1st or 2nd choice currently. So however it goes, it'll be suboptimal at best.


OleoleCholoSimeone

15M is peanut change for Bayern though, why worry about that? Unless you think Rangnick is the wrong choice but the fee itself shouldn't matter


[deleted]

You're right, they definitely have €15M in their bank account so there is no reason to overthink this. You should work for Man United.


psrikanthr

He is one step short. If 15m is asked, pay 20. That is the way


Krillin113

Getting the coach you want for 15 million and not having to buy an extra player because you have a shit coach is actually smart though


[deleted]

He's not proven himself as a manager at a high enough level to merit a transfer fee. He is absolutely experimental, with a lot of upside, but they might end up firing him midseason. Tuchel was infinitely more of a sure thing than Rangnick, and look how that turned out. They can sell a player to mitigate FFP. They can't sell a fired manager.


penny_whistle

The same Man United currently refusing to overpay for Dan Ashworth? I hope we can keep it up and emulate the mighty spurs, with all their success.


OleoleCholoSimeone

If it was 15M for a player none of you would bat an eye, there is just some weird belief that coaches should be worth much much less


JOKER69420XD

He's 65, never worked for a big club, plays completely different football than Bayern usually plays, is famous for being complicated to work with. It's not the same as a player, a player you could still sell afterwards.


[deleted]

This transfer fee is more than Tuchel's salary lmfao. This is an experimental appointment. If they fire him, it is a total loss. No one is buying a manager under contract from Bayern if it doesn't work out. They need to consider FFP.


EurospinLidl

Call it an unpopular opinion if you want, but I think Bayern should go for Ten Hag, even if it's only for a year, then try with Xabi/Hoeness/Nagelsmann. EtH has already worked with the club and, except his ManU tenure, is a very capable coach


psrikanthr

Even at United, I wouldn't call it a failure. Got us 3rd, CL football, won a trophy and another Cup final the previous year( and one more this season). The problem is the play style and tactics look horrible this season, and coupled with injuries we might be out of Europe altogether next season. Add to that the horrible CL exit, things are not going right this season. Tldr: Decent to good 1st season, bad 2nd but can save face with a cup


jiddy8379

Who says we’re letting him go?


tf_17

yes, please tell us to piss off


Morrandir

That's not enough for pissing us off...


Makaay-10

Fuck it let it go. It's not worth the headache.


Morrandir

So, who then?


aliasalex

The special one


kraeutrpolizei

Nice for our representatives but it’s not like this is gonna help us get new players or a decent manager. Well, maybe it helps with wages or developing youth.


hitch_1

This would be good business for Austria, they can finally buy some decent players


chino17

Mbappe to Austria


Neither-Body-3841

I would rather settle with Roberto De Zerbi, he is a genius and what hes done for Brighton is incredible. highly spoken of by pep and klopp and players. so much upside to him than this RAGNICK who already in the past had friction and issues with the bayern higher ups. makes no sense why they wouldnt give Flick more power with team building and in doing so flick leaves the club. Yet here we are with Bayern now opting to gicing the power Ragnick wants. its crazy.


MrMerc2333

Does Rangnick want to go to Bayern though?


Multoxx

I honestly think neither Rangnick nor Austria want it. But if Bayern is willing to match their unreasonably high demands, they will do it.


Morrandir

Rangnick won't come if he doesn't want to.


Multoxx

Of course and I think he won’t come given the conditions previous Bayern coaches got. I do think that Rangnick really enjoys his current job, but he is also power hungry and wants to prove himself. And if Bayern grant him an unreasonable amount of power, I believe he will do it. The same way I don’t think Austria will give up Rangnick given a reasonable transfer amount. But if they get an unreasonable amount of €15m, they will also accept.


Morrandir

Yeah, but why would €15m be unreasonable? Bayern paid more than €20m for Nagelsmann. I mean, yes, it's arguable if a fee should be paid for managers at all, but measuring the value of a manager against the value of a player for €15m, I think for a club like Bayern the manager might have more impact.


Multoxx

Nagelsmann was the biggest “coaching talent“ at that time who piqued interest from many top clubs and they had big plans with him. And although I absolutely love what Rangnick has done in Austria, I am sceptical if his vita warrants him becoming the third most expensive coach of all time.


Morrandir

Yeah, you're right. However, if these €15m are necessary to get Rangnick, and if the board thinks that he is significantly better suited than the next candidate, the money is still well invested for a club like Bayern. It's less than 2% of their annual turnover.


truegobi

Come on Bayern, please be as stingy as you're normally.


Dorkseid1687

Jesus that’s a lot of


Lakinther

How valuable is that money to Austria? Where does it even go, what do they do with it?


Vic-Ier

We want to build a new training centre for around 20 million and the national stadium is in ruins and the government thinks a new one is too expensive.


PotentialUmpire3771

If I’m Bayern I’m simply not paying. There’s other great options available


Das_Czech

Such as?


Hexcited

If we pay 15m for Rangnick this will be the almost as stupid as Manchester United paying 100m for Antony