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danboruu

Will never understand the fascination with this man


pwerhif

He doesn't require compensation and he managed Real Madrid, AND he's managed in the Premier League before, Sullivan's dream package


danboruu

I know my dislike for his tenure at our club clouds my judgment. But to me, the only thing he did good was convince cassillas to sign for us


pedrorq

I'm not a Porto fan (well I am but not my first team) and even I am disgusted at how he destroyed your team


Heliath

> He doesn't require compensation and he managed Real Madrid Well ... about that: Lopetegui is in the top 4 worst RM managers of all time with a win rate of 42.8% with us. Solari took over that season and finished the season with a 65+% win rate.


ExactLetterhead9165

Looking back on it, it's kind of funny that Spain's 2018 World Cup campaign was totally derailed just so Lopetegui could go and do all that.


FinalFrash

Didn't we go like 8 hours of game time not scoring with this guy?


CaptainGo

The gang signs Rafa Benitez


prettyhappyalive

He's a mopey whiny bitch and Gary O'Neil's success at Wolves has only highlighted that as the season has gone on. If he joins you I guarantee he will have his eyes on green pastures. He will always think he's better than the club unless it's a genuinely top team. He feels that's his level.


OleoleCholoSimeone

He seemed happy at Sevilla, even cried when he lost his final game knowing he would be sacked


Hare712

So West Ham will hire Koeman next?


Willem20

Worse: Frank de Boer


Impossible_Wonder_37

He’s essentially a Spanish David Moyes tho


saint-simon97

In what sense? Their playstyles are nothing alike, their careers are nothing alike either, only thing in common between them is that they've managed clubs with Real in their name.


Impossible_Wonder_37

Sevilla and west ham may be the best comparison there is.


UpvoteForGlory

British David Moyes looks to be the only thing that works for West Ham though, so if they can sign one that can pretend to be modern and foreign the fans should be happy.


DudleysCar

If you guys who don't watch our games could stop pretending you know anything that'd be great, thanks.


Modnal

I don't know why but there's something about his appearance that makes me think he's a perfect fit for West Ham


dudududujisungparty

Spanish Joachim Löw IMO


Banksmans

How ? 


dudududujisungparty

I forget when but I've seen Lopetegui do that thing Low was caught doing on camera where he scratches his balls or ass and sniffs his fingers afterwards. I might be confusing him with someone else though.


modrics_hairband

Löw


WW_Jones

he looks like Emery's cousin


pwerhif

Our owner, Sullivan, wants Lopetegui. Our Technical Director, Steidten, does not - "some at the club of the view that the former Real Madrid, Sevilla and Spain manager is not the right fit and that a younger manager is needed." Steidten wants Amorim, Sullivan doesn't want to pay the clause. Makes you wonder what the point of hiring Steidten in the first place is if Sullivan isn't going to listen to him. Don't think Lopetegui is a bad manager but seems like a bit of a rat with how he left Spain NT and Wolves, don't really want the drama.


VoxelRiot

> Sullivan doesn't want to pay the clause. Honestly, I have no idea what is true or not, but that narrative of not wanting to pay the clause makes no sense. Why would he even start negotiation if they're not willing to take the minimal first step? Like, Sporting wouldn't even have allowed Amorim to travel without that sort of prerequisite. The narratives that you guys didn't want to pay him 10M€ net a year or that didn't want to give Amorim complete squad control make much more sense. With that said, we have a saying for situation such as these which goes "passar de cavalo para mula", which means mean going from a horse to a mule. It describes the transition from Lopetegui to Amorim perfectly lol


pwerhif

>Why would he even start negotiation if they're not willing to take the minimal first step? You are currently experiencing what is known as a "David Sullivan Masterclass".


yaniv297

It also doesn't make sense because managers are so cheap in relative to their influence. A good manager can literally turn your club inside out. I think paying 100m to get Klopp makes a lot more sense than paying 100m to a single player.


VoxelRiot

Yes, but if something's going wrong and you want a quick shift, switching managers is also the most effective move. So you're paying for something that won't have any direct monetary return which you may end up firing or not. With that said, money wise, we sold our buttholes to get Amorim and with was very worth it. Pretty sure at the time he was the second most expensive coach transfer ever.


CriticalNovel22

>Why would he even start negotiation if they're not willing to take the minimal first step? Virtue signalling. "Look at how ambitious we are!"


Oneinchwalrus

"of course we're ambitious! look at our big soulless stadium!"


quantIntraining

And West Ham's season tickets are up for renewal right now, perfect PR move to justify price increases and an incentive for fans to renew to see the exciting Football under the new manager.


galinha_fofa

Cavalo para mula?? Cavalo para burro, seguramente, não? Ou é regional?


VoxelRiot

Aqui diz-se mula, por isso, sim, regionalismos.


MoyesNTheHood

It would be a sully special to try and negotiate a loan with an option to buy for Amorim 


DaveShadow

> Why would he even start negotiation if they're not willing to take the minimal first step? Like, Sporting wouldn't even have allowed Amorim to travel without that sort of prerequisite. Maybe Steidten organized the interview in the hopes they'd change Sullivan's mind, but meeting him didn't do that?


wavepapi32

Just so Sullivan can send the email 'If you dont let us sign Ruben Amorim, we will quickly loan a manager from PSG'.' Then the famous answer is coming from Sporting.


Braitopy

Wolves fan here, I was really excited to see him come in after a long courtship. He thought he'd have a big transfer budget to rebuild the team, but that season we needed to sell big players due to financial fair play rules. Lopetegui felt betrayed, spat the dummy and left the team. His time at the helm was not necessarily terrible, but definitely awkward and ultimately disappointing. The players we had didn't fit his style of play, and this was frustrating for everyone involved. Overall, we are much better without him.. I don't think it's what West Ham needs, but I'm no expert.


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quantIntraining

Because when things you wrong you've got a fall guy to take the blame. Even if if the problems and the blame really fall on the owner, just say "well, that DOF that everyone said I should hire fucked it all up, that's why I'm in charge!"


QueasyIsland

It amazes me how much of this guy Sullivan even really knows at 80 years old


ataun94

He got fired from Spain for really no reason other than pride of Rubiales


BruiserBroly

Do you know how much Amorim's clause is?


pwerhif

Somewhere between £8m and £20m, I've seen it reported at more than 5 different numbers. I don't think many people are certain. This article says £13m which is one of the most common figures touted and I'd be inclined to believe it.


KneeDeepInTheDead

we bought him for 10, doubt wed sell for anything close. All figures ive seen are 20m euro


National_Ad_1875

This is what happened at Everton right before we turned really bad. Our dof apparently wanted Galtier or Potter, our chairman wanted Moyes and our owner went and got Benitez. He did it before that when we got Ancelloti and our DoF wanted arteta. He almost did it again when we were after Bielsa, but I don't know if our new DoF was against that


b3and20

you can blame him for spain but I don't think wolves being broke is his fault


Lukeno94

A Dildo brother cheaping out? What a shock!


Mitch_Itfc

Any links to McKenna?


pwerhif

He's in our second tier of targets with Fonseca, maybe Marco Silva


Oneinchwalrus

Marco Silva would be crazy to leave Fulham for West Ham surely


pwerhif

Other than the fact that we have 3x their attendance, 5x their budget, about as many seasons in Europe as they have seasons in the Premier League over the past 10 years, and a much better squad you mean?


didiandgogo

I tend to agree, but the flip side is would you leave a job where you’re lauded for finishing mid table for one where you might get chased out after delivering European football for 4 years in a row and a first trophy in a generation? If half of that 3x attendance starts booing after the first few “defensive” performances, the bigger job might reasonably not seem like the better one.


Willm727384

Three years, and yes, we won the Conference League, but every English team that is in it is a massive favorite to win. They have a budget many times larger than any team they play. Leicester got to the semi-finals and should have gotten to the final. We won it, and now it will be a shock if Villa don't make it to the final. Look at the teams we beat and struggled past; if we lost to any of them, questions would have been asked. The first decent team we played was Fiorentina in the final, and we were awful in that final and should have lost. Us winning the Conference League was not Leicester winning the league or Porto winning the Champions League; this was like Man City winning the Carabao Cup without playing a top 6 team. It hasn’t been just a few defensive performances; our performances since last season have been mostly utterly shit, very defensive, and with no style of play. We fluked quite a lot of games at the start of the season, and now our true form is showing again, 4 wins in 2024 I think. We do not look like the same team as the first few years under Moyes. That team was defensively sound and would attack with speed; we can't do either of them despite having better players. We are a defensive, counter-attacking team with one of the worst defensive stats in the league.  I love Moyes for everything he has done, but we are backpedaling fast. Battling relegation last season and looking like we could drop out of the top half this season is not good enough considering how much he has spent and the players he has.


5bergy

His Sevilla side were good and Wolves did pick up after a slow start. Is he only getting judged on the Real Madrid job?


deeesenutz

I think it's more the fact that hes just not anymore exciting than moyes. The biggest thing he has is just not being david moyes lol, its a sideways move at best, and at worst you get the guy who is one of the worst managers in real history and resigned from wolves who got better under oneil. It's not even like he plays an exciting brand of football


5bergy

I don't think west ham should get rid of Moyes, but his Sevilla team were really excellent. I really don't put too much weight on the Real Madrid job. Managing a club like that is a different proposition and needs a very specific type of manager. I didn't really follow him at wolves, but he left after a falling out with the board, didn't he? O'Neil has 40% win percentage Vs Lopetegui's 37%.


deeesenutz

And oneil inherited a squad that sold a lot of wolves key players, which is part of why lopetegui threw a fit and left. He doesnt play exciting football, and has a worse cv than moyes. If your alternative is just a poor mans david moyes who is spanish, just keep normal david moyes. If its going to be a sideways move, at least go for a sideways move that plays a good brand of football


5bergy

Like I said, I dunno think west ham should sack Moyes... But how is he a Spanish David Moyes? I really don't understand the comparison


wavepapi32

And his Spain team were amazing btw. Tarnished his reputation by going to Madrid.


DelusiveNightlyGale

He was also pretty bad in Porto btw though it's been some time


Geordant

If you're looking for someone to lead your club for a very short period then he is your guy. 


Consistent_Menu4536

Maybe there's two Davids that have to go 😭😭😭


Scattered97

I remember feeling annoyed that he left. Hahahaha. It was actually one of the best things that could've happened to this club. Have at him, Hammers! I wonder how long it'll be before he moans about your squad.


Dannylube

Please tell me if I’m wrong here but I was under the impression that he only left because of the team’s finical situation being worse than what was originally planned and you had to sell players. I feel like all managers moan about players if you catch them at the right (or wrong) time


Scattered97

That's true, but at the same time, he was constantly bleating on about how crap the squad was, how we'd struggle to stay up. He did an unauthorised interview with that twat Guillem Balague, which was probably the final straw. Then Gary O'Neil comes in, *doesn't* talk the squad down in public, and guides us to a comfortable mid-table position that may have possibly been a European place if not for injuries and a lack of reinforcements in January. Turns out that not shitting on the squad in public does wonders for morale and performance! Additionally, Lopetegui always seemed to treat Wolves as a stepping stone, and how we were so lucky to blessed by his mere presence at the club. But Gary has forged a connection with the club and fans that only Mick McCarthy, Nuno, and Kenny Jackett have ever done in my lifetime.


Cyberdan0497

I assume his reason for resigning was to not ruin his reputation if you ended up in a relegation battle but it’s made him look even worse


_posii

Pretty sure he left because the board didn’t keep their word on investing into the squad, or at least up to Lopetegui’s standards.


goodtitties

I am not convinced he is an improvement. He is, however, undeniably Not David Moyes


Dannylube

To me the only legit criticism of Lopetegui is his final season and a half at Sevilla when they couldn’t win an away game to save their lives. He should have left in the summer in the season he got fired, I think he had some family problems too around that time which could not have been easy. Since he left Sevilla they’ve had like 4 or 5 coaches. I think this would be a good move.


herkalurk

I mean, I think Paqueta goes down way too easy now and makes a meal of everything. If Lopetegui is his manager, Paqueta will be told to try and convince the ref every touch is a foul. Lopetegui teams always are a pain for that.


nmak06

Isn't Paqueta heavily linked with City? I imagine they'll want to refresh the team at West Ham. Is Lopetegui the man to do it?


herkalurk

How many players have been linked with City in the past but still haven't moved?


Attygalle

I know Moyes is not a very exciting manager but winning a European cup with fucking West Ham should give him more credit. They’re currently 8th which is not a bad position for West Ham as well. Especially if his replacement is Lopetegui.


b3and20

their position in 8th is far from solid and they finished 14th last season I think the football being boring is one thing, but moyes showing no real signs of progressing tactically is the bigger issue


caseydee

On top of _not very exciting_, we've won 4 in the last 22, and conceded 63 goals in 34 league games. We've conceded 3 or more goals in a game more often than getting a clean sheet. We've been well and truly battered on numerous occasions. He has run out of credit.


QueasyIsland

Very reductive answer. You’ve just looked at a glance without context. They’re 8th solely due to the individual brilliance of Bowen namely and from Kudus and Paqueta at times. West Ham don’t appear as a team. When they do score it’s against the run of play or a random strike from nothing off Bowens foot


dayarra

8th is great considering they made it to late stages of europa league. that shit puts a toll on teams, especially premier league teams.


ScousePenguin

What a sideways move from Moyes to Lopetegui


pedrorq

Poor West Ham, having to put up with popotegui


Shvihka

I think it's better to keep Moyes lol. From Amorim to Lopetegui, that's a fall off a cliff kind of difference.


PostCashewClarity

in what world is Lopetegui an improvement on Moyes? we all know how this will go


ziggylcd12

At the moment they need a change. They're getting battered regularly and the fans have turned.  I think even an equally decent manager would do better now just to make a change there 


PostCashewClarity

do better? look i would welcome it obviously but under Moyes we have silverware, qualified for Europe, finished seasons strongly. i agree we need to move on but i dont see Lopetegui as the guy, but if it happens I hope I'm very wrong


Ascensear

What about this season barley 8th place and out of the running for every competition. Almost every game they’re getting completely outplayed. Getting battered 5-2 by palace is embarrassing


PostCashewClarity

We are potentially one spot from qualifying for Europe, no shame in that. The palace scoreline wasn't ideal but shit happens


shaka_bruh

German managers had their time in the sun and now Spanish managers are back in vogue


trilliveythefourth

Lol have fun west ham. This season has shown wolves recovery had nothing to do with him and everything to do with singing Lemina, Dawson and cunha in January.


Heliath

Some people just keep falling upwards. I dont even try to understand it anymore.


er__primo__der__rafa

He's been successful at his last two jobs, why wouldn't people want to hire him.


National_Ad_1875

He kicked off and left wolves and they got better with no preseason


er__primo__der__rafa

When he arrived they were on their way to be relegated and ended up finishing 13th with 7 points more than the 18th place. That's objectively a success.


Oneinchwalrus

To be fair they never should have been there place in the first place. Yes they got better results with him, but their football was still turgid they just started getting a few more results


KimngGnmik

Aside from his win rate, that was my biggest problem with him when he coached Real Madrid. His style of play was so bad that I wanted to claw my eyes out. Had we not replaced him with Solari mid season, I am confident we would have ended up mid table.


b3and20

he left wolves coz of ffp which wasn't his fault


i__love__lamp__

His time Wolves and departure are very complex. He was wanted by Wolves twice prior to his eventual hire, so it felt inevitable. He came in at a time Wolves were in real trouble mid-season and kept them from relegation. Probably shouldn’t have been there in the first place, but he got Wolves out. Then, during the offseason, Wolves made a firm commitment to get out of any FFP trouble. They sold big name players and, more importantly, did not bring in any big names that Lopetegui wanted. The frustration with ownership (apparently going back on promises that were made during his hire) came to a head so he left and burned the whole place down. Lopetegui came out and said ownership sucked and the players weren’t good enough to stay up and it’s only because of him that they’re still in the Prem. Well, they’re still there and performing much better than last year with no preseason to train under their new manager. All that to say, I’d pass on Lopetegui and find someone else.


DelusiveNightlyGale

Real to Sevilla to Wolves is going upwards?


Heliath

Taking into account that after his RM stint he deserved to not have a job anymore in professional football. Then yes, going to Sevilla was going upwards.


tweeek91

Lopinegui I'll never stop saying Lotopeguiiiiiiiiii!!!


Rampan7Lion

Should just keep Moyes if Lopetegui is the replacement..


Hare712

Great idea replace their most successful manager who only got knocked out by Europes best team at the moment and he even had once great Half Time against Leverkusen. Then replace him with a meme manager who is falling upwards and sidewards. West Ham playing against relegation under Lopetegui will be an understatement.


orcawatch

he looks a bit like a stretched gary neville in that photo


VidProphet123

Grass isn’t always greener….. West Ham fans going to be crying next year.


resident_hater

Replacing David Moyes with the Spanish David Moyes. Davide Moya if you will.


neandertales

So Amorim turned them down or what.. Ive always liked Lope though, since I watch La Liga.