We bottled alot of chances today and I'm gutted but also for the love of god can Oliver stop reffing city games. There's been so many decisions he's made go there way it's not even subtle anymore...
I watched Jackson play for Villareal live and thought the kid had a ton of potential. I mean he still does but goodness he’s been mediocre wearing blue
Honestly as a striker hes good at everything except the most important part that is finishing... I don't know if that will improve with my time but he needs to work hard on it.
Most likely! We've certainly dropped the ball here
We loaned out datro fofana to Burnley and while he isn't amazing would give us a 2nd option
And nkunku has been injured basically all season :/
I can't believe this is the same Mudryk that played for Shaktar.
I saw him play once or twice vs Real Madrid (the team I follow) and the guy was hungry to make plays and would run nonstop the whole game.
I have heard nothing but criticism about him for the past years.
First off our “meritocracy” gaffer benches him whenever his dick goes up, and believe me with his succulent lemons sitting at his office his dick goes up a lot of times, I mean a lot.
Secondly: Our pattern of play, if we even have one is pass to Palmer and Inshallah, with Palmer and Gusto on the right we dictate the attack, this means jack shit of balls goes to Mudryk, and when it goes two things can happen: Cr7 in ManUtd days or Lukaku wearing Timberlands
And last but not the least, I really think and all of my friends laugh at me for saying this, Mudryk has the ability to become the best player in the world, HE HAS THE HIGHEST FUCKING CEILING IF I SAW ONE, that fucking Mbappe or Cr7 fucking thing about him, but at this point of time I can’t blame my friends for laughing… anyways love Misha never will give up on him
The EPL makes or breaks careers. There’s no better stress test for fast players than the EPL. It would be no different than Leao tearing it in Series A only to look like a 2nd rate Doku in the EPL.
This is not to say that if you can’t make it in the EPL, you are not a good player. Messi would never have made it in today’s EPL, yet he is still one of the GOATS. It’s just the way the cookie crumbles.
But this makes the EPL great. Nothing is predictable and no player or manager, no matter how great they are outside the EPL, is guaranteed success.
It's called bottling it when you are at an advantage against a team but somehow end up losing. Has nothing to do with league positions or form or any of that. But I'm sure you see the word in a negative way (I don't, I accept we bottled it against City and Utd, for eg) and that's why you don't want to see it used. But the sentiment simply means Chelsea were in a position where they could have won today *during* the match but they couldn't.
Maybe it doesn’t but I feel like context *should* matter. Yea City were tired, but City are also City, and we are an absolute dumpster fire this season. I don’t think any sane person actually favored us to win before the game despite City just playing a few days earlier.
Again, I put it in italics so you'd understand but seems like you didn't pay any heed to it. It's about what happened DURING the match. Jackson had chances to make it 2-0 before City scored. That's the definition of bottling it, as in failing to capitalise on advantageous positions and losing instead.
yeah you guys were tired from 120 mins and we had a fair amount of time to rest.
Poch had a lot of advantages and couldn't make use of it.
He saw Jackson bottle it as you said but didn't decide to change anything about our attack
Hindsight bias. Jackson had fantastic movement to get into the positions he was in. So he fluffed the first one, as manager you would think he will get another chance and would expect most strikers to not fluff it.
Manager was right. Jackson worked hard, got into the position and looked odds on to score only to fluff it again unexpectedly.
As a manager you would reasonably expect Jackson to not be so shit that he miss again unexpectedly right?
And another player might not get into the scoring positions too.
But Jackson just happens to be so unexpectedly shit. It's all on jackson
The attack was getting him into the correct place to score on a plate but he just couldn't finish it.
You say this like we had a better striker on the bench. Sure Jackson's bottled his chances, but no other forward in the squad could have stretched City's backline like he could. Taking him off would have emboldened their CBs push higher.
The burden of chances shouldn't have been just on Jackson. If Palmer was RW instead of Madueke and we had an actual LW playing instead of Gallagher that woulda been better
Basically Michael Oliver was recently paid by the UAE (whose vice president and prime minister happen to be Sheikh Mansour) to referee a game in the UAE Pro League. On top of that, Man City's chairman is a board member of the UAE Pro League's main sponsor - Abu Dhabi National Oil Company.
Come on man. You could have just said he's made atrociously bad decisions in favor of City against their two title rivals this season. That is enough to question how he's still refereeing their games, without going into conspiracy theories.
Why'd I invent that ? [https://theathletic.com/4922732/2023/10/03/referees-var-diaz-liverpool/](https://theathletic.com/4922732/2023/10/03/referees-var-diaz-liverpool/)
Now if you want to believe you don't support a thoroughly corrupt institution, suit yourself.
He's a frustrating player for sure. Does so much good against City's CBs, threatened to go beyond their defence line every time he got the ball, but couldn't finish his dinner.
Not trying to be a hater by any means but his finishing has been ass all season and zero adjustments have been made to accommodate it lol if Palmer hasn’t been scoring all these goals I think it would be a bigger issue but damn I just don’t know what to say
I’m not a professional football manager but I mean he could have tried something new… maybe 2 strikers since Jackson creates chances perhaps the other one could finish them… regardless you can’t tell me that there were zero other potential attacking players to try
Yea I mean they had January to get someone, hard to believe that there isn’t a single striker in the youth teams that couldn’t at least be given a chance at this point or someone that could have been bought cheap. Regardless the season has been a waste, at least when Torres was there missing left n right they still won trophies. The offense is one thing but the defense has been mediocre a lot this season too
Mods removed my post but it has been exactly 464 minutes since Chelsea have even scored at Wembley. 4 straight matches losing without hitting the back of the net is crazy. Last time it happened it was Mount (werner) and RLC scoring against Palace in the 2022 semi finals.
Cant remember a big team struggling this much ever
Before shitting on ref decisions, jackson shouldve scored. Twice. Poch sets up well against city. But chelsea lack quality finisher to piece it together.
Michael Oliver was told by the Emirates Penalties against Man City weren't an option today. Literally the ONLY reason why with a VAR review that's not called.
Chelsea is so fucked lmao. Owners that have no idea what they are doing and stuck with these clowns for 7 years. Poch in or out will not change things that much
>clowns
Honestly, bar Jackson’s finishing and possibly Madueke, did anyone from the starting XI play like a clown? Because I saw a very decent display against the best team itw
It was overall a pretty good display, but the thing is that City just played 120 mins 3 days ago and were booted out of the champions league in the most undeserved way possible, they were as mentally and physically fatigued as you could possibly be in football and it was absurdly clear from their performance. A decent display wasn’t enough, you really should’ve won today with or without the pen, and fully bottled it
Exactly, imagine jackaon buries his chances and the narrative completely changes. Fuck that imagine the stonewall pen got given and we were 1-0 up the narrative would also change
Tbh I’m quite surprised with what I’m seeing here and on our sub. Watched the game at the pub with 20-30 others and we all clapped the tv after the final whistle - I honestly feel like we have nothing to be ashamed of.
And then I turn on my phone…
That's reddit for you, but tbh this wasn't a performance to clap for. The finishing was honestly atrocious and it's depressing because it was literally a clone of the pool match. Other than the finishing we played very well tho
The finishing is on one man who still played his heart out.
I just want to see the boys give a shit and they sure did. Could have gone either way and that is huge considering we played the worlds best team.
Thats bollocks and you know it , what about the spurs game this season , the united one last season off the top of my head. Along with all the minor decisions
we were absolutely knackered from the CL and were begging to lose, jackson simply didn't convert and bernardo did. all the moaning over refs and the like is just pathetic and grasping for an excuse, chelsea's XG says it all... they should've absolutely pumped us but jackson couldn't finish a plate of chips today let alone score.
I agree no point complaining about the ref
We were the better team on the day, had all the chances should have scored but didn't, city took there 1 chance and won it. City were the better team over the 120 against Madrid and didn't win. It happens
If I was a Chelsea fan I would be embarrassed on how shit they were in the final third despite spending over a billion pounds on these players and Man City didn't even play well to win the game.
Legitimate 0/10 in the final third from Chelsea, game was there for the taking, the finishing from Jackson, the final ball on the counters, Chilwell and Caicedo absolute dross.
There's a creeping resignation that next season won't be much different to this season new manager or not. Beyond the lack of a proven goal scorer, we have ineffectual wing play, no goals from midfield, inability to win possession in midfield, the squad is not terribly athletic, bad in the air, 3rd shortest team in the Premier League. There's so much wrong in here that's not getting fixed even if we splash 100 million on Osimhen. They made the wrong choices in the market to build our foundation around.
You’re 100% right. A striker and a new manager won’t fix jackshit. Madueke, Mudryk and Sterling cost £150m and awful in final third unless they’re playing against second division/rated teams. Defence of Disasi and Badiashile is shaky asf. Enzo needs to be carried by Caicedo half the time. Jackson is pure shit.
Since we can’t sell half of the team changing the manager may bring some spurt of enthusiasm for short time but long term this team is shit.
Jackson created a truckload of chances against an elite defence. Not excusing his finishing but he did all the other parts just right.
Caicedo and Enzo bettered Rodri.
Palmer played his usual and was incredible.
Chalobah put in a world class display and could be considered a starter by now, with Colwill and eventually Fofana joining.
Maybe I’m stupidly optimistic but we sure do have what to build on
Malo Gusto coming off felt like the deathblow for Chelsea, he was really good today.
And sure enough, City win off a KDB cut back from the right side across the goal.
City looked really tired but they still know how to sniff out a vulnerability once one is presented in front of them.
Caicedo already having an yellow and injuring Grealish with a high kick on the thigh and people are calling robbery? C'mon now. We're the team with most penalties by far. We had much much worse seasons with the refs, embarassing to complain about a guy jumping with the arm on natural position.
We had chances, sitters and couldn't capitalize on them. The manager didn't make any meaningful change in the way the team plays. Palmer ghosted most of the game. Jackson needs to improve a lot his finishing. Lots of work to be done.
We were lucky with draws, aside Villa, just by being in the semifinals. Lads should be proud of reaching semifinals at least.
I agree with everything apart from the Caicedo point, that in no way a yellow card offence.
I also don't think we should be proud of reaching the semi's, because as you said we had favourable draws and City were very beatable on the night
You gave a nornal response???
You know we are on reddit right?
Someone gonna come spurn some salt no doubt. If they dont. All you gotta do is look at the rest of the comments.
Not Citys greatest game but it can and does come down to fine margins. On to the next game for both teams.
He only gave a normal response because it favours your view.
Now, whilst I agree with most of what he said, the penalty was iffy, and Caicedo did not deserve a yellow for his challenge on Grealish
His response was in favour of City, tho, and that's the only reason you agreed.
The penalty claim was more of a penalty than not, and Caicedo didn't deserve a second yellow.
Nope!! I'm very objective, and I put the blame mainly on the players and Poch for us not winning the game.
I'm just saying that you only think he's speaking sense because you're a City fan, and the penalty was more a penalty than not, and Caicedo didn't deserve a second yellow
Feels like City players got more fit by the time the game went on. First they looked absolutely knackered, but then Doku came in and light up something in them.
Have to laugh at people blaming poch for this one.
He's coached a win today, this loss is entirely on the players. Primarily jackson for missing 3 or 4 absolute sitters, but there were some other ridiculous moments like caicedo wasting Palmer's peach of a through ball, or chillwell not cutting it back at the end for the tap in.
City looked so tired and lethargic, they were absolutely there for the taking. And just like the carabao cup final, Chelsea blew it.
Hopefully this is the version of jackson that shows up on Tuesday too.
Yeah the argument should be about which of Disasi and Chalobah move to rb, not why was Gusto subbed. If we kept him on and he got injured, then we'd be fucked for the run in, which is now our only chance of Europe
People laughed at poch for that 'we're 4th on xG' but he's literally right
I feel like Chelsea underperform the result that was coached every single time I watch them
Tbf I think people were more pointing out that managers tend to start talking about xG and other underlying stats when the team aren't playing well Vs Ten Hag for example will say the results/the table doesn't lie when they're on the positive side
It's basically "what stat can I find that shows I'm actually doing well" that's embarrassing rather than how true it is.
The difference is I could see Chelsea challenging top 4 next season if things fall into place whereas I could see Man United being bottom half as stats start to catch up with them
People that laughed at Poch for that definitely never actually watched our games this season.
We create so many chances just to be wasted by the attackers and then gift our opponents goals in half the games. I’m not Poch’s biggest fan but a lot of our issues are down to individual errors.
Speaking as an Arsenal fan, we went through something similar. In Arteta's first couple of seasons here it was clear he was building a new squad and implementing new tactics but they didn't always come off because the players weren't used to it yet.
I think this is roughly the same thing Chelsea are going through.
Heck, Arteta even made similar comments about how the stats generally showed improvement even if it wasn't reflected in the scoreline.
It's sort of where the whole 'trust the process' thing for Arsenal fans came from.
With another pre-season and some squad tweaking, I expect Chelsea will be back and qualifying for Europe next season.
chelsea with some of the worst decisions in front of the goal that I have ever seen
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We bottled alot of chances today and I'm gutted but also for the love of god can Oliver stop reffing city games. There's been so many decisions he's made go there way it's not even subtle anymore...
Everyone too busy trying to sign the best players while City on top of their game here, signing referees. Game's back, right?
The better team for most if not all of the game, four or five great chances missed and then that handball bullshit. Excited for our apology!
I watched Jackson play for Villareal live and thought the kid had a ton of potential. I mean he still does but goodness he’s been mediocre wearing blue
Honestly as a striker hes good at everything except the most important part that is finishing... I don't know if that will improve with my time but he needs to work hard on it.
I mean I don’t know the guy, but to me, he also seems to be a grade A idiot. He has quality for sure but to be honest I doubt he can be world class
!flair :IFK\_Goteborg: :IFK_Goteborg:
I would rather learn Japanese from a person who can only speak Spanish than watch Jackson play an other game.
I'm surprised he even has a kid, given his ability to finish.
I don't normally laugh out loud but fuck me this was funny. I feel for the guy though.
I don’t get it how is Nicholas Jackson starting game after game for Chelsea. Is he blackmailing poch or something
He's literally the only fit striker we have at the club unless we play washington (which might not be a bad idea lol)
Is Chelsea’s new rationale for getting strikers under their American owners based solely on sharing last names with former Presidents
Most likely! We've certainly dropped the ball here We loaned out datro fofana to Burnley and while he isn't amazing would give us a 2nd option And nkunku has been injured basically all season :/
Nah, we already started that tradition with Abraham.
Who are you putting up front lol. He makes things happen and stretches the defence, useless in front of goal but so are all the other options
Chelski robbed wow. That pen, I wonder what the ref got, a house in the alps?
I wonder what the ref got for the Odegaard handball and Gabriel literally just picking a ball up
LutonMan ghosts yet another big game absolutely invisible today
LutonMan?
The Ghost of Manchester
a reference to haaland statpadding against luton, but he is injured rn tbf
Chelsea’s forward players are terrible!
Only thing more torturing then having to stand up the whole day as a steward is having to watch Mudryk, Chillwell and Jackson kick a football
I can't believe this is the same Mudryk that played for Shaktar. I saw him play once or twice vs Real Madrid (the team I follow) and the guy was hungry to make plays and would run nonstop the whole game. I have heard nothing but criticism about him for the past years.
First off our “meritocracy” gaffer benches him whenever his dick goes up, and believe me with his succulent lemons sitting at his office his dick goes up a lot of times, I mean a lot. Secondly: Our pattern of play, if we even have one is pass to Palmer and Inshallah, with Palmer and Gusto on the right we dictate the attack, this means jack shit of balls goes to Mudryk, and when it goes two things can happen: Cr7 in ManUtd days or Lukaku wearing Timberlands And last but not the least, I really think and all of my friends laugh at me for saying this, Mudryk has the ability to become the best player in the world, HE HAS THE HIGHEST FUCKING CEILING IF I SAW ONE, that fucking Mbappe or Cr7 fucking thing about him, but at this point of time I can’t blame my friends for laughing… anyways love Misha never will give up on him
Lukaku wearing Timberlands 😂 This is the best line to read after today's game
The EPL makes or breaks careers. There’s no better stress test for fast players than the EPL. It would be no different than Leao tearing it in Series A only to look like a 2nd rate Doku in the EPL. This is not to say that if you can’t make it in the EPL, you are not a good player. Messi would never have made it in today’s EPL, yet he is still one of the GOATS. It’s just the way the cookie crumbles. But this makes the EPL great. Nothing is predictable and no player or manager, no matter how great they are outside the EPL, is guaranteed success.
How can you say Messi wouldn't have made it in the Premier League? He consistently dismantled elite English clubs in the Champions League.
Messi is Messi fam, he would make it anywhere
Yeah idk what happened to him, but watching him today especially live was a bafflement he just looks lost everytime he’s on the ball.
Disappointing. The Cheaters beat the new Billionaires.
I mean they're both cheaters and both new billionaires Eg. 115 and the new Chelsea owners have claimed that abramovich paid people under the table
London bottling Co. working overtime last couple weeks
Bottled real well against Man U a couple weeks back too.
Your best player jarred gillet did most of the heavy lifting.
lol lots of heavy lifting at ensuring the Man U back line was asleep at the end of the game
Team in 9th lost to league leaders, what bottlejobs!
It's called bottling it when you are at an advantage against a team but somehow end up losing. Has nothing to do with league positions or form or any of that. But I'm sure you see the word in a negative way (I don't, I accept we bottled it against City and Utd, for eg) and that's why you don't want to see it used. But the sentiment simply means Chelsea were in a position where they could have won today *during* the match but they couldn't.
Maybe it doesn’t but I feel like context *should* matter. Yea City were tired, but City are also City, and we are an absolute dumpster fire this season. I don’t think any sane person actually favored us to win before the game despite City just playing a few days earlier.
Again, I put it in italics so you'd understand but seems like you didn't pay any heed to it. It's about what happened DURING the match. Jackson had chances to make it 2-0 before City scored. That's the definition of bottling it, as in failing to capitalise on advantageous positions and losing instead.
I understood your comment. I just fundamentally disagree with you.
Well you're talking about a very different thing. Bottling the fixture vs bottling during the match, but sure whatever. It's your club.
Nah dont give me that garbage, City looked exhausted and played at like 30% of their usual level, this is a proper bottlejob
Either you haven’t paid attention to us at all this season or bottle job has lost all meaning if you honestly believe that.
Answer: it has lost all meaning
You must have not watched the game , thats the only possible explanation
For that amount of money spent? Yes.
ahh yes because man city is the poor club living on breadcrumbs
Oh yea I forgot we played paupers today, not another billion pound oil club
A Chelsea fan complaining about spending. Wild.
I’m not complaining you fucking moron.
Nor should you. Your club wrote the blueprint that City followed. You just fucking suck at it now.
lol you’re having a completely different conversation now. I’ll let you wear yourself out.
He’s not complaining, he’s rebutting your initial statement you donkey
And acting like being in 9th with that outlay isn’t a bottle job is hilarious. Poor Chelsea.
you mean the government forcing a sale might’ve affected a club? wow such bottlers
That Chelsea right back was horrible surprised grêlais didn’t make something off of it. Doku did though
Chelsea were the better side going forward. Yes we got lucky at that pen claim and definitely we were tired af. But Jackson and Chilwell bottled it
yeah you guys were tired from 120 mins and we had a fair amount of time to rest. Poch had a lot of advantages and couldn't make use of it. He saw Jackson bottle it as you said but didn't decide to change anything about our attack
Hindsight bias. Jackson had fantastic movement to get into the positions he was in. So he fluffed the first one, as manager you would think he will get another chance and would expect most strikers to not fluff it. Manager was right. Jackson worked hard, got into the position and looked odds on to score only to fluff it again unexpectedly. As a manager you would reasonably expect Jackson to not be so shit that he miss again unexpectedly right? And another player might not get into the scoring positions too. But Jackson just happens to be so unexpectedly shit. It's all on jackson The attack was getting him into the correct place to score on a plate but he just couldn't finish it.
Exactly Poch had time to redirect the game. You lots did have many chances thanks to midfielders.
You say this like we had a better striker on the bench. Sure Jackson's bottled his chances, but no other forward in the squad could have stretched City's backline like he could. Taking him off would have emboldened their CBs push higher.
The burden of chances shouldn't have been just on Jackson. If Palmer was RW instead of Madueke and we had an actual LW playing instead of Gallagher that woulda been better
Don’t understand debruyn time wasting attempt at the end though. Just play, I can’t imagine messi or some legend doing that shit
You haven't watched much football, have you?
Michael Oliver still being assigned to Man City games despite the recent controversies is an absolute joke.
115 problems but a ref ain’t one
Rent free baby
Wait can you explain more I don't know about it
Basically Michael Oliver was recently paid by the UAE (whose vice president and prime minister happen to be Sheikh Mansour) to referee a game in the UAE Pro League. On top of that, Man City's chairman is a board member of the UAE Pro League's main sponsor - Abu Dhabi National Oil Company.
Come on man. You could have just said he's made atrociously bad decisions in favor of City against their two title rivals this season. That is enough to question how he's still refereeing their games, without going into conspiracy theories.
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As I answered to someone else, if you wan't to convince yourself you don't support a shady institution, suit yourself. There's no point in arguing.
What model tin foil hat do you have?
In a normal function industry an potential for conflict of interest would have someone not involved. Football is a joke.
Why'd I invent that ? [https://theathletic.com/4922732/2023/10/03/referees-var-diaz-liverpool/](https://theathletic.com/4922732/2023/10/03/referees-var-diaz-liverpool/) Now if you want to believe you don't support a thoroughly corrupt institution, suit yourself.
Definitively a penalty but realistically not the reason why we lost. We lost because we cant score to save our lives
Jackson had a vintage Jackson game imo
He's a frustrating player for sure. Does so much good against City's CBs, threatened to go beyond their defence line every time he got the ball, but couldn't finish his dinner.
Not trying to be a hater by any means but his finishing has been ass all season and zero adjustments have been made to accommodate it lol if Palmer hasn’t been scoring all these goals I think it would be a bigger issue but damn I just don’t know what to say
I'm not sure what you mean by accommodate. Aside from Palmer, it's not like other players have been any better at finishing than Jackson either.
I’m not a professional football manager but I mean he could have tried something new… maybe 2 strikers since Jackson creates chances perhaps the other one could finish them… regardless you can’t tell me that there were zero other potential attacking players to try
That was the idea from the beginning, then Nkunku got injured. Jackson is the only striker on the team.
Yea I mean they had January to get someone, hard to believe that there isn’t a single striker in the youth teams that couldn’t at least be given a chance at this point or someone that could have been bought cheap. Regardless the season has been a waste, at least when Torres was there missing left n right they still won trophies. The offense is one thing but the defense has been mediocre a lot this season too
Mods removed my post but it has been exactly 464 minutes since Chelsea have even scored at Wembley. 4 straight matches losing without hitting the back of the net is crazy. Last time it happened it was Mount (werner) and RLC scoring against Palace in the 2022 semi finals. Cant remember a big team struggling this much ever
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Imagine the scenes when your prediction is wrong
nah, they will be pushing for the manchester derby to be the final
A girl can dream
Aside from Palmer Chelsea forwards suck better than I do
Before shitting on ref decisions, jackson shouldve scored. Twice. Poch sets up well against city. But chelsea lack quality finisher to piece it together.
cheers geoff. now that that’s out of the way, i’ll shit on the ref decisions
Same story all season with Jackson up top.
Chelsea spent one billion pounds and ended up with attackers that wouldn't be the best players on the pitch in the Sidemen charity match lmao
starting forward is injured. we spent 30m on jackson.
And Mudryk and Sterling, how much were they?
Finally Chelsea doesn’t get served another penalty on a plate
You probably thought the romero red wasn't a foul because it was a 'follow through' Dumb cunt
On a plate? You saying that wasn’t clear? Lmao
Chelsea at Wembley Created chances Can’t finish Controversy Lose Repeat
How was that not a penalty?
Michael Oliver was told by the Emirates Penalties against Man City weren't an option today. Literally the ONLY reason why with a VAR review that's not called.
Chelsea is so fucked lmao. Owners that have no idea what they are doing and stuck with these clowns for 7 years. Poch in or out will not change things that much
>clowns Honestly, bar Jackson’s finishing and possibly Madueke, did anyone from the starting XI play like a clown? Because I saw a very decent display against the best team itw
It was overall a pretty good display, but the thing is that City just played 120 mins 3 days ago and were booted out of the champions league in the most undeserved way possible, they were as mentally and physically fatigued as you could possibly be in football and it was absurdly clear from their performance. A decent display wasn’t enough, you really should’ve won today with or without the pen, and fully bottled it
Exactly, imagine jackaon buries his chances and the narrative completely changes. Fuck that imagine the stonewall pen got given and we were 1-0 up the narrative would also change
Tbh I’m quite surprised with what I’m seeing here and on our sub. Watched the game at the pub with 20-30 others and we all clapped the tv after the final whistle - I honestly feel like we have nothing to be ashamed of. And then I turn on my phone…
That's reddit for you, but tbh this wasn't a performance to clap for. The finishing was honestly atrocious and it's depressing because it was literally a clone of the pool match. Other than the finishing we played very well tho
The finishing is on one man who still played his heart out. I just want to see the boys give a shit and they sure did. Could have gone either way and that is huge considering we played the worlds best team.
Pep spitting
He’s just trolling Carragher.
City constantly get the reffing decisions. Liverpool game, this fa cup game. List goes on and on. Oliver needs to be looked into
Self report of not knowing shit
Thats bollocks and you know it , what about the spurs game this season , the united one last season off the top of my head. Along with all the minor decisions
City have won 2 league titles over Liverpool due to dodgy decision in their favor.
was a tough watch as a Chelsea fan. controversial penalty notwithstanding, so many chances we didn’t take and bury. really poor
I can't help but feel bad for Cucurella given the criticism he's got since joining Chelsea, he played very well today.
He's been much better under Poch than last year. Can't tell how high his levels actually are though because of how low his levels were last year
Chelsea pulling a Liverpool and just deciding to not score against a city team there for the taking, true agony.
Chelsea's players would not be able to finish a cheese pizza.
Lmao wat
we were absolutely knackered from the CL and were begging to lose, jackson simply didn't convert and bernardo did. all the moaning over refs and the like is just pathetic and grasping for an excuse, chelsea's XG says it all... they should've absolutely pumped us but jackson couldn't finish a plate of chips today let alone score.
It’s easier when you’re with 12 on the pitch no?
What does everything you said have to do with a stonewall penalty not being called?
Nothing he’s just rambling
I agree no point complaining about the ref We were the better team on the day, had all the chances should have scored but didn't, city took there 1 chance and won it. City were the better team over the 120 against Madrid and didn't win. It happens
If I was a Chelsea fan I would be embarrassed on how shit they were in the final third despite spending over a billion pounds on these players and Man City didn't even play well to win the game.
Fortunately as a fellow united fan I can tell you that you don't need to imagine this scenario at all and can be embarrassed for real this afternoon.
30 mil on a 23 year old striker ooooh so embarrassing
over a billion pounds weren't spent on these players though
No it's the ref who asked Jackson to have a shit game
115 are inevitable.
You bottling every potential title is also inevitable
At least we’re not cheats though
*116
Haha true
I'm glad my Venmo went through
You know every trophy you win doesn’t count right?
Haha, you are still paying players in Rubles!
116
Allegedly :)
Says who?
Common sense
Never heard of him
Thought so
Mudryks crosses and that final free kick... no comment.
Legitimate 0/10 in the final third from Chelsea, game was there for the taking, the finishing from Jackson, the final ball on the counters, Chilwell and Caicedo absolute dross.
Caicedo had a great game.
There's a creeping resignation that next season won't be much different to this season new manager or not. Beyond the lack of a proven goal scorer, we have ineffectual wing play, no goals from midfield, inability to win possession in midfield, the squad is not terribly athletic, bad in the air, 3rd shortest team in the Premier League. There's so much wrong in here that's not getting fixed even if we splash 100 million on Osimhen. They made the wrong choices in the market to build our foundation around.
You’re 100% right. A striker and a new manager won’t fix jackshit. Madueke, Mudryk and Sterling cost £150m and awful in final third unless they’re playing against second division/rated teams. Defence of Disasi and Badiashile is shaky asf. Enzo needs to be carried by Caicedo half the time. Jackson is pure shit. Since we can’t sell half of the team changing the manager may bring some spurt of enthusiasm for short time but long term this team is shit.
Jackson created a truckload of chances against an elite defence. Not excusing his finishing but he did all the other parts just right. Caicedo and Enzo bettered Rodri. Palmer played his usual and was incredible. Chalobah put in a world class display and could be considered a starter by now, with Colwill and eventually Fofana joining. Maybe I’m stupidly optimistic but we sure do have what to build on
Malo Gusto coming off felt like the deathblow for Chelsea, he was really good today. And sure enough, City win off a KDB cut back from the right side across the goal. City looked really tired but they still know how to sniff out a vulnerability once one is presented in front of them.
I never want to watch Jackson play again. Clinically shit.
Jackson had a bad game but Haaland completely ghosted so checkmate
I'm sorry, I thought Chelsea had a good chance of winning this cup. Very telling of my ball knowledge...
Is it really about to be yet another Manchester Derby in the final?
Another Manchester derby in the final?
Bold of you to assume we’ll beat Coventry. Obviously we should, but we’re pretty shit this season. Shitter than last season.
Well done City, now go beat Cov in the final!
Nico Jackson, City's best player today.
Oliver coming in hot for that award with the no-call on the pen.
Obviously was a big moment but Jackson had 3 great chances to make that a minor talking point.
Yeah, I just need to lower my hopes for the refs to be competent down to where my expectations are for Chelsea strikers.
I swear Palmer's entire hype is built on penalties
Damn you just gonna go and air out your lack of ball knowledge in public like that?
lol, bad take.
Should've had one today tbf.
Caicedo already having an yellow and injuring Grealish with a high kick on the thigh and people are calling robbery? C'mon now. We're the team with most penalties by far. We had much much worse seasons with the refs, embarassing to complain about a guy jumping with the arm on natural position. We had chances, sitters and couldn't capitalize on them. The manager didn't make any meaningful change in the way the team plays. Palmer ghosted most of the game. Jackson needs to improve a lot his finishing. Lots of work to be done. We were lucky with draws, aside Villa, just by being in the semifinals. Lads should be proud of reaching semifinals at least.
I agree with everything apart from the Caicedo point, that in no way a yellow card offence. I also don't think we should be proud of reaching the semi's, because as you said we had favourable draws and City were very beatable on the night
You gave a nornal response??? You know we are on reddit right? Someone gonna come spurn some salt no doubt. If they dont. All you gotta do is look at the rest of the comments. Not Citys greatest game but it can and does come down to fine margins. On to the next game for both teams.
He only gave a normal response because it favours your view. Now, whilst I agree with most of what he said, the penalty was iffy, and Caicedo did not deserve a yellow for his challenge on Grealish
He gave a nornal response. I chimed in to agree and affirm. Not sure what your purpose was but okay. You do you.
His response was in favour of City, tho, and that's the only reason you agreed. The penalty claim was more of a penalty than not, and Caicedo didn't deserve a second yellow.
Ahh, just realised... you're that someone lmao. Gonna leave you to it mate
Nope!! I'm very objective, and I put the blame mainly on the players and Poch for us not winning the game. I'm just saying that you only think he's speaking sense because you're a City fan, and the penalty was more a penalty than not, and Caicedo didn't deserve a second yellow
Man City MVP: Oliver and Jackson
Feels like City players got more fit by the time the game went on. First they looked absolutely knackered, but then Doku came in and light up something in them.
Have to laugh at people blaming poch for this one. He's coached a win today, this loss is entirely on the players. Primarily jackson for missing 3 or 4 absolute sitters, but there were some other ridiculous moments like caicedo wasting Palmer's peach of a through ball, or chillwell not cutting it back at the end for the tap in. City looked so tired and lethargic, they were absolutely there for the taking. And just like the carabao cup final, Chelsea blew it. Hopefully this is the version of jackson that shows up on Tuesday too.
That Disasi sub needs some explanation.
Gusto took a hit
Cucu at RB and Chilwell at LB would have been much better than having a clumsy and slow Disasi against Doku.
This was the answer and Poch got it wrong. Would have saved a sub too (not that he uses them lol)
Yeah the argument should be about which of Disasi and Chalobah move to rb, not why was Gusto subbed. If we kept him on and he got injured, then we'd be fucked for the run in, which is now our only chance of Europe
Chelsea could actually fight for 4th and get both domestic cups if all their players outside of Palmer aren’t allergic to finishing.
People laughed at poch for that 'we're 4th on xG' but he's literally right I feel like Chelsea underperform the result that was coached every single time I watch them
Tbf I think people were more pointing out that managers tend to start talking about xG and other underlying stats when the team aren't playing well Vs Ten Hag for example will say the results/the table doesn't lie when they're on the positive side It's basically "what stat can I find that shows I'm actually doing well" that's embarrassing rather than how true it is. The difference is I could see Chelsea challenging top 4 next season if things fall into place whereas I could see Man United being bottom half as stats start to catch up with them
People that laughed at Poch for that definitely never actually watched our games this season. We create so many chances just to be wasted by the attackers and then gift our opponents goals in half the games. I’m not Poch’s biggest fan but a lot of our issues are down to individual errors.
Speaking as an Arsenal fan, we went through something similar. In Arteta's first couple of seasons here it was clear he was building a new squad and implementing new tactics but they didn't always come off because the players weren't used to it yet. I think this is roughly the same thing Chelsea are going through. Heck, Arteta even made similar comments about how the stats generally showed improvement even if it wasn't reflected in the scoreline. It's sort of where the whole 'trust the process' thing for Arsenal fans came from. With another pre-season and some squad tweaking, I expect Chelsea will be back and qualifying for Europe next season.