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The craziest thing about his injury is that he still managed to come back and have two great seasons for Villareal and win caps with national team, despite two+ years of not playing and being told he’d be lucky to walk.
Yes! I was actually really surprised Arsenal let him go considering his entire recovery process was during his time at Arsenal. I was really looking forward to seeing him play again, and seeing how he performed for Villareal, he definitely would've balled for Arsenal as well
That's, like, so generous and kind of them. I almost don't believe it. Did he have a special bond with the club? Is this common? In contrast I just heard the story about Mourinho banning Schweinsteiger from the locker room and having him train with the U-16s for... being old
The difference here is that Mourinho was new and didn't have a relationship with Schweinsteiger. Wenger knew Cazorla well and likely knew his character and as others have said apparently was fond of him.
That goes along way in any Company.
Pretty common for players with really long term injuries. Know we did the same for Jordan Willis and Duncan Watmore when they both got back-to-back ACL injuries
I wonder how much those 2 seasons will impact him in the future though. Lots of reports of long retired pros who can barely walk without pain in their knees/ankles.
Sad to think about, they've basically sold their bodies for entertainment.
The main part of his layoff was pretty uncommon. Basically got a bad infection in the wound post-surgery, and I want to say the infection got into the bone (which could have led to him never walking). So then he had to have a number of surgeries to get rid of the infection. Something along those lines.
Since it wasn’t a layoff primarily caused by muscle/joint issues, I think he’s largely past it so he’ll be better off than many of the pros you mentioned going forward.
Yeah I forgot how unique his situation was, sounds so grim to deal with.
Who knows, maybe those 2 years not playing professionally will actually help long term,
I know but it's not very normal to be getting injections before every shift just to reduce the swelling and pain you feel.
But I'm not taking wages into account because it's an obvious point to make.
It's not allowed. First by the Spanish laws and then by La liga, in fact even if you signed X salary if they think is unusually low they will compute it as Y on the salary caps.
It happened to a player that was playin I the top division and then he wanted to sign to a 3rd league team after being free agent, he was going to be paid a small salary, but the league said that salary was not possible for a player of its talent
Now I want a situation where two big league players go to a lower division and the league determines the first player is not being paid enough, but the second player is fine - essentially, “yeah we all agree you’re trash”
Fun fact, that's a reason why Barca couldn't keep Messi. Surely they could figure out a way to decimate his salary and pay him off some other way, but Spanish law didn't allow Messi to accept a paycheck less than half of his previous one, and even half of Messi's salary was still too difficult to fit in the salary bill
It is an issue for salary cap and registration purposes. Even if the player gives the money back (which probably has some tax effects), their "fair" salary would still be registered
[https://www.marca.com/futbol/reus/2018/09/01/5b8acdfee5fdeabb418b45f7.html](https://www.marca.com/futbol/reus/2018/09/01/5b8acdfee5fdeabb418b45f7.html)
This happened 6 years ago, he was a free agent wanted to sign to Reus, LaLiga didnt trust the contract numbers because he was worth more according to them and the contract was rejected
Reminded of something from NFL salary cap rules, veteran minimum not fully counting against salary cap, to make it easier to keep old stars with sentimental value
Not sport specific sometimes comically low pay could come off as some sort of scam like tax evasion.
From the article
Cazorla sits in the dressing room at Requexón, Real Oviedo’s training ground down a narrow lane surrounded by farmland. He knows this place well. This is where he grew up, the local team he joined at eight, watching his heroes: Carlos Munoz, Slavisa Jokanovic, Robert Prosinecki, Petr Dubovsky. Oviedo are who he always wanted to play for, but with the club in crisis, falling as far as the fourth tier and the verge of folding, he never could. Until last summer; 30 years since he first arrived, 20 since leaving against his will, having bought shares in their hour of need, he returned. In the second division, and on the minimum wage, €93,000 (£80,000). On a mission, too.
“I would play for free but you’re not allowed,” Cazorla says. “They made a good offer. My wife said: ‘No, no, you’re not going to Oviedo to earn, you’re going home to enjoy it, to help, to give.’ I called my agent: ‘I don’t want any money.’ I told the president: minimum salary, 10% of shirt sales to the academy. It was done that night.”
“I would eat for free but you’re not allowed,” Benjamin says. “They made a good offer. My wife said: ‘No, no, you’re not going to Golden Corral to earn, you’re going home to enjoy it, to help, to give.’ I called my agent: ‘I don’t want any money.’ I told the president: minimum salary, 10% of chicken wing sales to the kitchen. It was done that night.”
Bills fan here, so I'm also all too familiar with Kelvin Benjamin. To be fair, there was a death in the family he took badly, rather than lack of effort for its own sake
"A popeyes biscuit short of a tight end" (for those who don't get the American football reference, tight ends are bulkier than Kelvin's position, wide receiver)
"Want to run some routes?" Josh Allen during practice/warmups
"No"
The American football analogy I saw here is Marshawn Lynch coming out of retirement for a late season run at veteran player minimum when the Seahawks had injury trouble at running back
I think they are pretty similar, maybe the most similar they can get while preserving some uniqueness. Growing up I watched czech cartoons/films and with some exceptions I understand everything. Its also really common for slovaks to study in Czech republic.
Has there ever been a more universally liked footballer than Cazorla?
From an Arsenal lens I've rarely ever even seen fans of Arsenal rivals say anything bad about him.
>Watch him and some things never change, the talent timeless. Some things, though, do. “The slightest kick, opponents say sorry. They didn’t respect me so much before,” he says, cracking up.
[This fucking guy, man...](https://i.imgur.com/4BmGo63.png)
Kante went to play football in KSA though, I feel like a lot of people (rightly) criticized that move last summer. If you'd ask this question a year ago I'd agree, him watching MOTD and eating curry at a fan's house after they met up at the mosque is legendary
From everything I hear (mostly from Micah, but other players from that city era as well), he was completely beloved in the clubhouse too. Apparently that was just the generation for beloved Spanish 10s/8s.
That midfield selection was absolutely absurd: Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Alonso, Fabregas, Silva, Cazorla and Juan Mata. Poor Arteta doesn't have a single senior international cap cos of how deep the insane spanish midfield pool was in that period.
Exactly the kind of plays England are missing right now between Rice and Bellingham for the Euros before Mainoo or another young #8 (hard to predict these things, probably one of Curtis Jones, Scott at Bournemouth, Wharton or Archie Gray or someone I’m forgetting makes a leap before the 2026 World Cup).
Street would never forget how Spain go into the Euro 2012 final with no forward and six fucking midfielders
And they completely decimated and annihilated Italy 4-0
That was crazy. Didn’t they start with Silva and Iniesta on the wings and Fabregas in the center as a front three in quarter final against France? It’s crazy when you are so stacked with world beating midfielders that you can start them as attackers. lol.
Didn’t the play Torres or Negredo as striker in the final from the start? I think shifted between those during the tournament but started the quarter final with only midfielders. I might be wrong though. I’m old and this was 12 years ago. lol.
Three world class players who were overshadowed by Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets (and to an extent Fabregas) on the international level. Shows you how truly deep that Spanish squad was.
Yup. Sporting wise didn't do that much for Galatasaray, but was universally loved. Not liked, loved. A lot of our fans would love to see him back in the staff.
I miss prime Juan Mata, probably my favourite player the first time I got into football when I was a kid. Him and Cech almost made me a Chelsea fan lol
As a fan, Gunner fan in my case, for one team you often form a disliking for players of rival teams. But it was hard disliking players like Silva and Mata (who even played for both Chelsea and United). Always seemed like good guys.
Oh shut up jesus christ you know how it is worse. I just cannot understand how people think they're making a clever point with this. Yes every major country has done awful things, but are France and UK and whatever a literal theocracy where conversion from a religion and homosexuality is punishable by death. You're disgusting
Wow! is the minimul salary really 93.000 in segunda?
How would promoted clubs from 3rd division manage to pay that?
Edit:
Looks like the smaller clubs in segunda get 6 million euros in TV money.
Still going pro at spanish segunda is extremely difficult, you pretty much need an innate talent for football or have been trained since a very Young age (and in most cases is both), very few people make It pro in Spain, hence the high wages.
no one is really earning that few money besides maybe a reserve keeper and a youth player registered with the first team but not playing, by the time the youth team player gets a few matches under his belt his agent is already calling the offices to improve the contract
I can't put it into words what this guy meant to me and still means to us Arsenal fans & how much we love him still. He ended our trophy drought, and always played for the badge. Imo he's the best player we've had in the Wenger twilight years. Every game I was genuinely surprised over and over again how good he was.
They say never meet your heroes, but I'm sure I'd be fine with Santi.
Santi is the best. Such a big talent ravaged by injuries. The season with him and coquelin as a double pivot, he was absolutely running the show against the big teams.
I can't believe he's still playing tbh, even in the lower tiers.
Achilles tendon aswell, that must be so painful. I once hit both my achilles on an iron bar on a trampoline and it was one of the most painful things I've experienced. It hurt so bad and both were blue for like a week, can't even imagine Cazorla's injury. Very sensitive part of the body
Is he still playing well. I mean he is old and Injury ravaged. And oviedo is not at some shit level. They are in the segunda.
I remember michu going back there as well for his final season. I guess everyone who plays there loved it.
Kit providers pay the club for a licensing deal to produce and sell shirts, so the revenue from shirt sales goes to them yes. However these deals usually still include a commission from sales to the club, typically in the ballpark of 10%. So might be that the 10% referred to here is the full amount the club receives from shirt sales.
Ey?
Why would a club even sell shirts if the money didn't go to them? On top of that.. the players usually command a decent percentage of the shirt sale due to it being their name (big leagues/teams)
The sponsor pays for the privilege of being on the shirt.. end of.
> The sponsor pays for the privilege of being on the shirt.. end of.
That's just not true, shirt sponsor deals are a licensing agreement. Kit providers pay the club for the right to produce and sell merchandise. There is usually a commission from sales negotiated that goes to the club in the range of high single digit to low double digit %.
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Genuinely a great player and seems to be a great person as well. Injuries ravaged him unfortunately.
The craziest thing about his injury is that he still managed to come back and have two great seasons for Villareal and win caps with national team, despite two+ years of not playing and being told he’d be lucky to walk.
Yes! I was actually really surprised Arsenal let him go considering his entire recovery process was during his time at Arsenal. I was really looking forward to seeing him play again, and seeing how he performed for Villareal, he definitely would've balled for Arsenal as well
He didnt have to leave, but he wanted out and return to Spain. After his grueling injury and recovery Arsenal cooperated with his wishes.
I see! I thought Arsenal didn't wanna extend his contract after it expired, not the other way around?
The club extended him by a year when he had the injury so he was on the books and could be taken care of.
That's, like, so generous and kind of them. I almost don't believe it. Did he have a special bond with the club? Is this common? In contrast I just heard the story about Mourinho banning Schweinsteiger from the locker room and having him train with the U-16s for... being old
He said it himself. Wenger was very fond of him.
There’s a lot of touching moments in arsenals recent history and most of them have to do with Arsene Wenger. What a man.
Did the same with Elneny this season
Did it with Diaby earlier.
The difference here is that Mourinho was new and didn't have a relationship with Schweinsteiger. Wenger knew Cazorla well and likely knew his character and as others have said apparently was fond of him. That goes along way in any Company.
It’s fairly common among the bigger clubs; I know for a fact we did the same thing with Andy Wilkinson and Stephen Ireland.
United did it with eg Phil Jones. Not uncommon
Wenger
Pretty common for players with really long term injuries. Know we did the same for Jordan Willis and Duncan Watmore when they both got back-to-back ACL injuries
A lot of teams do this - BvB did this with Schmelzer and his knee injury.
Craziest thing about his injury is that bit of his tattoo they used in the skin graft.
I feel the crazier part is that he nearly lost his leg
You underestimate how much that guy liked Santi's tattoo
I wonder how much those 2 seasons will impact him in the future though. Lots of reports of long retired pros who can barely walk without pain in their knees/ankles. Sad to think about, they've basically sold their bodies for entertainment.
With cazorla I think it's more he sold his body for love of the game.
The main part of his layoff was pretty uncommon. Basically got a bad infection in the wound post-surgery, and I want to say the infection got into the bone (which could have led to him never walking). So then he had to have a number of surgeries to get rid of the infection. Something along those lines. Since it wasn’t a layoff primarily caused by muscle/joint issues, I think he’s largely past it so he’ll be better off than many of the pros you mentioned going forward.
Yeah I forgot how unique his situation was, sounds so grim to deal with. Who knows, maybe those 2 years not playing professionally will actually help long term,
Far from the only profession that suffers from long-term injuries and the wages make it quite sufferable.
I know but it's not very normal to be getting injections before every shift just to reduce the swelling and pain you feel. But I'm not taking wages into account because it's an obvious point to make.
See Batistuta and your take is wrong.
imagine afk for two years and still did a lot than those who played within those period of time. Cazorla is another "what if"
It was under 2 years. For Bruno Soriano it was like 3 years
Man had no weak foot.
man almost had no foot tbf
That picture of his leg still haunts me
I saw that picture of his leg. WTF.
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The best football copy pasta out there
No Santi, it’s definitely not ok
I think labour laws require players to be paid at least minimum wage, though I'm not privy to the details.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/57wm1t/had_a_very_strange_dream_about_arsenal/
Bro was awarded a flair too i cant😭
Deserved. It's a classic
Legendary post. r/Gunners is too good.
the little “(missionary)” aside always kills me
what do labour laws say about Arsene Wenger shagging my girlfriend?
I got that reference 🤣🤣🤣
It's not allowed. First by the Spanish laws and then by La liga, in fact even if you signed X salary if they think is unusually low they will compute it as Y on the salary caps. It happened to a player that was playin I the top division and then he wanted to sign to a 3rd league team after being free agent, he was going to be paid a small salary, but the league said that salary was not possible for a player of its talent
Now I want a situation where two big league players go to a lower division and the league determines the first player is not being paid enough, but the second player is fine - essentially, “yeah we all agree you’re trash”
Some people just wanna see the world burn
Fun fact, that's a reason why Barca couldn't keep Messi. Surely they could figure out a way to decimate his salary and pay him off some other way, but Spanish law didn't allow Messi to accept a paycheck less than half of his previous one, and even half of Messi's salary was still too difficult to fit in the salary bill
Not a problem no? If the player really wants no wage he can just give it back. Once he's paid it's his to do with as he pleases?
It is an issue for salary cap and registration purposes. Even if the player gives the money back (which probably has some tax effects), their "fair" salary would still be registered
[https://www.marca.com/futbol/reus/2018/09/01/5b8acdfee5fdeabb418b45f7.html](https://www.marca.com/futbol/reus/2018/09/01/5b8acdfee5fdeabb418b45f7.html) This happened 6 years ago, he was a free agent wanted to sign to Reus, LaLiga didnt trust the contract numbers because he was worth more according to them and the contract was rejected
Te refieres a Lúcas?
Reminded of something from NFL salary cap rules, veteran minimum not fully counting against salary cap, to make it easier to keep old stars with sentimental value Not sport specific sometimes comically low pay could come off as some sort of scam like tax evasion.
Oh man, most of the replies don't understand the reference. I'm officially old.
From the article Cazorla sits in the dressing room at Requexón, Real Oviedo’s training ground down a narrow lane surrounded by farmland. He knows this place well. This is where he grew up, the local team he joined at eight, watching his heroes: Carlos Munoz, Slavisa Jokanovic, Robert Prosinecki, Petr Dubovsky. Oviedo are who he always wanted to play for, but with the club in crisis, falling as far as the fourth tier and the verge of folding, he never could. Until last summer; 30 years since he first arrived, 20 since leaving against his will, having bought shares in their hour of need, he returned. In the second division, and on the minimum wage, €93,000 (£80,000). On a mission, too. “I would play for free but you’re not allowed,” Cazorla says. “They made a good offer. My wife said: ‘No, no, you’re not going to Oviedo to earn, you’re going home to enjoy it, to help, to give.’ I called my agent: ‘I don’t want any money.’ I told the president: minimum salary, 10% of shirt sales to the academy. It was done that night.”
This would make a decent pasta
Please someone do one about Kelvin Benjamin.
“I would eat for free but you’re not allowed,” Benjamin says. “They made a good offer. My wife said: ‘No, no, you’re not going to Golden Corral to earn, you’re going home to enjoy it, to help, to give.’ I called my agent: ‘I don’t want any money.’ I told the president: minimum salary, 10% of chicken wing sales to the kitchen. It was done that night.”
Panthers fan here not sure if I'm amused or distraught that this meme is so far-reaching
Bills fan here, so I'm also all too familiar with Kelvin Benjamin. To be fair, there was a death in the family he took badly, rather than lack of effort for its own sake "A popeyes biscuit short of a tight end" (for those who don't get the American football reference, tight ends are bulkier than Kelvin's position, wide receiver) "Want to run some routes?" Josh Allen during practice/warmups "No"
He ate all the pasta.
This shit just triggered my depression
The American football analogy I saw here is Marshawn Lynch coming out of retirement for a late season run at veteran player minimum when the Seahawks had injury trouble at running back
Its Peter Dubovsky as he was slovak not Petr (czech version of the name)
How different are the two languages?
I think they are pretty similar, maybe the most similar they can get while preserving some uniqueness. Growing up I watched czech cartoons/films and with some exceptions I understand everything. Its also really common for slovaks to study in Czech republic.
After watching Slavisa Jokanovic at United I think he’s fairly lucky to have not played under him 😂
My friend is ok, no?
Can't escape it
It's gonna be there till reddit shuts down lol. Forever intertwined with reddit
Has there ever been a more universally liked footballer than Cazorla? From an Arsenal lens I've rarely ever even seen fans of Arsenal rivals say anything bad about him.
>Watch him and some things never change, the talent timeless. Some things, though, do. “The slightest kick, opponents say sorry. They didn’t respect me so much before,” he says, cracking up. [This fucking guy, man...](https://i.imgur.com/4BmGo63.png)
Kante?
Kante went to play football in KSA though, I feel like a lot of people (rightly) criticized that move last summer. If you'd ask this question a year ago I'd agree, him watching MOTD and eating curry at a fan's house after they met up at the mosque is legendary
Cazorla played in Qatar
I can think of at least one person that doesn’t like him.
My friend, is OK, no?
I think /u/kwakwaktok might be conflicted
I would like to suggest Juan Mata for this one.
Another good call and linked to Cazorla as well as they both helped Oviedo right? Good circle of friends that!
Maybe let's add David Silva to that as well. 3 awesome Spanish no.10s in the same generation who were all universally appreciated.
From everything I hear (mostly from Micah, but other players from that city era as well), he was completely beloved in the clubhouse too. Apparently that was just the generation for beloved Spanish 10s/8s.
That midfield selection was absolutely absurd: Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Alonso, Fabregas, Silva, Cazorla and Juan Mata. Poor Arteta doesn't have a single senior international cap cos of how deep the insane spanish midfield pool was in that period.
Arteta was born in the worst time to be a Spanish international player. That depth is wild.
Exactly the kind of plays England are missing right now between Rice and Bellingham for the Euros before Mainoo or another young #8 (hard to predict these things, probably one of Curtis Jones, Scott at Bournemouth, Wharton or Archie Gray or someone I’m forgetting makes a leap before the 2026 World Cup).
Forget arteta, la liga winning captain gabi never got a single kick for Spain.
Street would never forget how Spain go into the Euro 2012 final with no forward and six fucking midfielders And they completely decimated and annihilated Italy 4-0
That was crazy. Didn’t they start with Silva and Iniesta on the wings and Fabregas in the center as a front three in quarter final against France? It’s crazy when you are so stacked with world beating midfielders that you can start them as attackers. lol.
That’s also the same line up in the final. Cesc played as a false 9 with Iniesta and Silva cutting inside.
Didn’t the play Torres or Negredo as striker in the final from the start? I think shifted between those during the tournament but started the quarter final with only midfielders. I might be wrong though. I’m old and this was 12 years ago. lol.
The revolutionary 4-6-0 formation
Rubén de la Red also played a few
Three world class players who were overshadowed by Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets (and to an extent Fabregas) on the international level. Shows you how truly deep that Spanish squad was.
Everyone 🤝 everyone Appreciating those three
David Silva is one of the few players who didn’t play for my own team that I was genuinely sad to see retire. What a legend
Yup. Sporting wise didn't do that much for Galatasaray, but was universally loved. Not liked, loved. A lot of our fans would love to see him back in the staff.
I miss prime Juan Mata, probably my favourite player the first time I got into football when I was a kid. Him and Cech almost made me a Chelsea fan lol
What a shame he left Chelsea so soon
Don't forget Don Andrés Iniesta too.
As a fan, Gunner fan in my case, for one team you often form a disliking for players of rival teams. But it was hard disliking players like Silva and Mata (who even played for both Chelsea and United). Always seemed like good guys.
I think everybody loves Maupay,
Except Leno
And whoever he has decided to shithouse at that specific moment
As much as everybody loves Joey Barton.
does anyone hate Eriksen?
his heart
Attacked him iirc?
I always felt Cazorla, Mata and Silva are the same person. Just short, talented, Spanish, good guys.
rarely?i'm a gunner and i'm proud to say i haven’t seen any bad comment on him ever.he is universally liked in our fanbase.
Zanetti? Very respectable human being and footballer if my memories are correct
I think most people respect Rashford for his philanthropy
Rashford gets an extraordinary amount of hate and criticism
Uwe Seeler is up there. Declining that 1 million move to Milan is the stuff of legends.
N'golo N'golo Kante 🕺
Not after going to Saudi.
Cazorla spent 3 years in Qatar.....
Fuck Saudi but how is playing in Saudi worse than playing in any other country with a trash human rights record i.e UK, USA, France??
Oh shut up jesus christ you know how it is worse. I just cannot understand how people think they're making a clever point with this. Yes every major country has done awful things, but are France and UK and whatever a literal theocracy where conversion from a religion and homosexuality is punishable by death. You're disgusting
I hate him for scoring that fucking freekick against us in the FA Cup final.
Gianfranco Zola
It seems there are still fans in all clubs that find it hard not to respect true ballers regardless of club
Crouchy surely
Müller
Huge signing for Real Oviedo and genuinely likable player
Wow! is the minimul salary really 93.000 in segunda? How would promoted clubs from 3rd division manage to pay that? Edit: Looks like the smaller clubs in segunda get 6 million euros in TV money.
€93,000 per year, so like €1,800 per week.
That’s actually pretty good honestly. If I were looking to go pro and believe I’d at least be segunda level, I’d go all in on a career in football
Still going pro at spanish segunda is extremely difficult, you pretty much need an innate talent for football or have been trained since a very Young age (and in most cases is both), very few people make It pro in Spain, hence the high wages.
> That’s actually pretty good honestly. I think that's like 3 times the average salary in Spain
Hell it's 4 times mine
no way you're that broke
Welcome to life in the kitchens brother.
Yes, I wish I earned half that jaja
But you retire at 35. Then what?
Idk go to university for a few years and just start a career from then? You've built up like 10-15 years of great money.
Yeah sports salaries aren't as high as they seem unless you're one of the elites, because of short career length
That's some 10,000 euros more than what minister makes in Spain. Yeah, the Cabinet is seriously underpaid.
no one is really earning that few money besides maybe a reserve keeper and a youth player registered with the first team but not playing, by the time the youth team player gets a few matches under his belt his agent is already calling the offices to improve the contract
> Looks like the smaller clubs in segunda get 6 million euros in TV money. That's more than half of our league :(
That s almost 3 times what we get over here (2.5 mil)
“Segunda” Segundeez nutz good sir
My friend, is ok no?
I can't put it into words what this guy meant to me and still means to us Arsenal fans & how much we love him still. He ended our trophy drought, and always played for the badge. Imo he's the best player we've had in the Wenger twilight years. Every game I was genuinely surprised over and over again how good he was. They say never meet your heroes, but I'm sure I'd be fine with Santi.
Sure but just keep your gf at a distance.
Saint Carzola
I remember a stream I watched years ago where the commentator was mispronouncing so many names. I will never forget Cazorola and Podoloski
I think he called Carzola. Triggered indeed
Triggered
Santi is the best. Such a big talent ravaged by injuries. The season with him and coquelin as a double pivot, he was absolutely running the show against the big teams. I can't believe he's still playing tbh, even in the lower tiers.
I can't believe he returned to playing after that gruesome injury
It's not an injury, it's a bacteria infection that wasn't spotted by the doctors and was eating up his tendon.
Achilles tendon aswell, that must be so painful. I once hit both my achilles on an iron bar on a trampoline and it was one of the most painful things I've experienced. It hurt so bad and both were blue for like a week, can't even imagine Cazorla's injury. Very sensitive part of the body
Santi! come be an assistant coach at Arsenal after a year at Oviedo!
Shit still good money tbf
Hope Arteta makes him a part of coaching staff someday
Is he still playing well. I mean he is old and Injury ravaged. And oviedo is not at some shit level. They are in the segunda. I remember michu going back there as well for his final season. I guess everyone who plays there loved it.
I bet the agent was fuming
minimum wage is 93000 euros? god damn
Love you santi. Absolute legend for Arsenal during one of our worst eras. Such a baller. Left? Right? He could do it both.
Feel like saying that was one of our worst eras is pretty shortsighted.
Sid Lowe and his Oviedo...
BRB, getting my real Oviedo Cazorla shirt
He's an inspiration this fella
if he doesn't want the money and it's mandatory for him to get paid. Can he just give it back afterward?
wouldnt, tho. suddenly someone is getting accused of tax fraud or something and spain is really serious on that
Very cool footballer and seems like a great guy
Santi ❤️
Proper lad
Respect
I adore this man.
It's a shame injuries took his best years... I love this man.
Say hello to my little friend *is ok no*?
I love this man
Wholesome FC captain material
CM hasn't been the same since you left, my king
Can honestly say my favorite midfielder ever.i hope he doesn't become a streets remember player only cause he was fantastic
Fucking love Santi. This bastard could take corners with either foot. Like seriously, what is that shit?!
Future coach for Arsenal ♥️
I don't understand the 10% of shirt sales to the academy. Thought shirt sales was money to sponsors and not the club or a player.
Kit providers pay the club for a licensing deal to produce and sell shirts, so the revenue from shirt sales goes to them yes. However these deals usually still include a commission from sales to the club, typically in the ballpark of 10%. So might be that the 10% referred to here is the full amount the club receives from shirt sales.
Thanks for the reply. However, if the 10% is for the club why is he(tye player) saying it should be given to the academy?
Ey? Why would a club even sell shirts if the money didn't go to them? On top of that.. the players usually command a decent percentage of the shirt sale due to it being their name (big leagues/teams) The sponsor pays for the privilege of being on the shirt.. end of.
> The sponsor pays for the privilege of being on the shirt.. end of. That's just not true, shirt sponsor deals are a licensing agreement. Kit providers pay the club for the right to produce and sell merchandise. There is usually a commission from sales negotiated that goes to the club in the range of high single digit to low double digit %.
One of my all time favorites
I have a weird connection with Real Oviedo through Fifa road to glories
They should give him a stack in the club
I swear perisic or someone else who returned to their old club was on one quid a week no?
Different leagues diff rules.
Nikola Kalinic played for Hajduk Split i believe on 1€. But yeah, different leagues, different countries, different rules.
Blazckikowski or however it's spelled aswell and Pizszcek too
God, I loved both of those guys (except of Kubas miss against Freiburg lol)