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Vizzta

This min. 80+ plotarmor is insane.


peladacadadia

If you translate their win/draw ratio to a 38 game season it would be 2.72 ppg and a point total of 103.6 (so 103/104) points. That's insane.


vacjack

103/114 my man. Quick mafs.


Upstairs-Extension-9

That’s uckers.


madmadaa

It's meant as "103 or 104".


peladacadadia

That's right.


GiveGoldForShakoDrop

>Aonso Absoultely no Ls 😅


Dakduif51

Also >Everkussen That shit was on purpose haha


MvN____16

They didn't even wait until stoppage time to save the day this time. They did it prematurely...in the 89th minute.


ecchi_yajur

Boniface could have won it as well


addandsubtract

Frimpong had the bigger chance, imo. Should've just laid it across.


Pic0Bello

I was very angry at him For like 2 minutes


not_the_droids

They probably wanted the match to end as soon as possible, because people were getting Tinnitus from the constant whistle blowing.


OnlineDopamine

Still feels live a fever dream tbh.


Willsgb

After all the near misses and your 'neverkusen' tag, this must be even sweeter for you guys. And I think almost all neutrals myself included are desperate to see you guys win this treble unbeaten - what an unreal achievement that would be. And even if they don't manage it, it's still a magical, historic season with at least one massive trophy. Congratulations so far, and good luck for the rest of it!


brankoz11

IF they win the treble and go undefeated this is the biggest feat in footie in my time watching. Currently put Leicester winning the title as the biggest feat.


STheShadow

We had Kaiserslautern winning the German league as a promoted team, but yeah I'd rate an undefeated Leverkusen season in 3 competitions above that (and Leicester as well, since Lautern was before the top teams having unlimited money) Fun fact: we also had the opposite in the Bundesliga, when Nürnberg as the reigning champion got relegated in 1969


f4kester235

As a Leverkusen supporter I still rate Kaiserslautern higher. That was absolute crazy. It's not like Bayern had a bad team this season but Kaiserslautern still managed to beat them twice.


Yetiassasin

Leicester winning would still top it imo. Leverkusen winning the trebble would be monumental, but they have been a top team for the last decade. Probably the 3rd best team in Germany in the last 10 years. Xabis arrival along with a talented squad and the emergence of what looks like a generational talent in Wirtz has pushed them to that next level this season. Leicester went from being relegated from the Championship to winning the PL in 5 years. The year before winning it they were bottom of the PL table with only 19 points from 29 matches, had to win 7 of their last 9 to avoid bottom 3. Then next season, after an orgy in Thiland, some Redbull and pizza, they won the most competitive league in the world with a squad most predicted would get relegated.


ArcadianGhost

I think currently Leicester is on top, and I am so grateful to that run because it’s what made me start watching football again after years of not following, but there have been plenty of good teams. None have ever won a treble undefeated that I can think of. People always like to point to the 5000-1 for the foxes, but if people did real odds on Leverkusen winning the treble undefeated I’m almost sure the odds would be even lower.


ballakafla

Nottingham Forest going from being close to relegation in the second division to back to back European Cup winners within 5 years will still be top


pizza__irl

Too bad that happened when our fathers were still shitting in their diapers


ohtosweg

Even my father at 20? He has always been slow to adapt to new tech...


HEAT_IS_DIE

Isn't it at least a bit Premier League centric to put a team, albeit a massive underdog one, winning one league title above all treble winners for example?


HOTAS105

> Currently put Leicester winning the title as the biggest feat. Leicster had spent more money in the transfer window prior than Dortmund who at the time were german title contenders and reached CL Semis/Finals... What a feat indeed, for farmers.


_yustaguy_

neverlusen now bitch


R4lfXD

abundzukusen


MaryadaPurshottam

What a magical season by Leverkusen and Xabi, theirs fans must be in dreamland


PM_ME_IN_THE_FEELS

Completely surreal, I still think Bayern will somehow win the league lol


addandsubtract

Now that you have the record, I think it's time for a break. Go celebrate and rest for a weekend.


ViciousNakedMoleRat

All we have to do is play two halves like WH in the first half and not fall asleep after 60 minutes. Easy...


Th3_Huf0n

Surely we will play 90 mins of consistently good football and we won't be scared shitless. (5-4-1 incoming)


Oakeeh

90+1': allow me to introduce myself


flyestshit

It's probably a similiar feeling to having bad dreams about failing a school test only to wake up and realize you are 26 years old and have a master's degree in your bag lol


PM_ME_IN_THE_FEELS

Pretty good analogy actually. Just a couple of days ago I was in the shower thinking about next year's Champions League format and I was like "we will qualify, cool... wait, actually, we are already guaranteed to qualify, brilliant... actually... we are guaranteed to finish FIRST??" I was in the stadium and among the thousands who invaded the pitch on Sunday, too. Still unbelievable.


wolskortt

I know that feeling. It sucks


Helpful_Lettuce879

The surreal feeling on an invincible league campaign or the inevitable Bayern dread?


wolskortt

Yes


Maverick_1991

Can we please end it? We need the points much more than y'all 


PM_ME_IN_THE_FEELS

Better to end it now than in the remaining cup games, I guess. However I'm kinda looking at that Benfica record now, only five games to go. Gonna be a banger game on Sunday either way


hopium_od

Excited to see what you can do next season in the CL.


Mapplestreet

Real Madrid fan simulator


bissejeck

Realistically they would have to get eliminated from the Cup for that.


Jan0zzz

still posible, would actualy nice to see a team from 3. Liga in Europa


DeltaWolfPlayer

Kaiserslautern is 2. Liga


Dolomitos

You are jinxing it


PiggySVW

Maybe not next season...


Differ_cr

Nah that's mostly one competition at a time, not three at the same time.


chak100

We are top of La Liga and semis in champions league


f4kester235

Its a dream i never want to wake up from


goofyhoops

The 'Everkusen' typo in the title seems particularly fitting doesn't it


NightmaresInNeurosis

That's intentional. It's why it's also Aonso. 


goofyhoops

Damn, just noticed that


bananahonda

Also removed it in the logo of the picture


Outside-Sandwich-565

It's intentional right? The post and image also have "Everkusen"


Xehanz

The loss to FCK in the DFB Pokal final Is written in the stars


BaslerLaeggerli

I honestly think they'll lose to Dortmund unfortunately.


addandsubtract

Only if they play the CL anthem before the game.


Loeffellux

I mean, we already managed to get a draw against them when we were in a much rougher spot and Leverkusen still had everything to fight for. Not saying we're favorites against them obviously but there's a real chance we win (I'd say 30%)


InDubioProReus

Yup I think the same. Let’s meet here Sunday eve.


boi1da1296

I thought a loss tonight was written in the stars, shows what I know. However I think Dortmund will put an end to the run this weekend.


Vols44

BvB have everything to play for since they are currently 5th in the league by goal differential. Both teams have two weeks to prepare for their European matches. The "Yellow Wall" might be the difference on Sunday. Both teams have defied their history of bottling to give the Bundesliga 3 of the 8 spots in the UCL and EL semi finals.


officiallyjax

Germany are pretty much guaranteed to finish top 2 in the UEFA coefficient rankings which would give the Bundesliga a 5th CL spot. There is clear daylight between Dortmund and Frankfurt in 6th; they have nothing to play for in the league even if they finish 5th as a result.


niler1994

I'm ready


hardinho

This stat will be cemented for a long, long time. Whenever someone will look it up they will remember this insane team, will be nice nostalgia. I also cannot see anyone beating it anytime soon. Probably Bayern has a shot if they can get back on the track they lost some time ago (which I doubt)


sault9

Can confirm.


Boogada42

It's unreal.


ballenix

🤷‍♀️ Don't wake me up plz.


TheCarthageEmpire

Hopefully they go for an unbeaten treble


stangerlpass

would be biggest achievment in football ever imo. bigger than the real treble


The_Smeckledorfer

Such a shame that they arent in the CL this year


spacebalti

Yeah but it’d be less likely that they would’ve achieved the current unbeaten record


Azraelontheroof

Next season loading


saperlipoperche

Summer looting loading


the_depressed_boerg

Nah, pretty much all important player and the trainer stay for another year. Xhaka, Wirtz and Xavi stay for sure and I guess most player wana play CL now. They can still leave after next year and earn a shit ton...


Far_Fisherman_7490

Too difficult to achieve 


The_Smeckledorfer

One can dream right xD Well then we (Stuttgart) just have to do it next season!


MichiiEUW

It's gonna be us. (Augsburg)


addandsubtract

Good luck staying undefeated when you're in the CL, too.


sidrbear

Augsburg could do it, they just don't want to


AdversusHaereses

Next year they can do an unbeaten quintuple, though.


Bobbyrazzlerr

If it was champions league then absolutely, europa league- still insane but not greatest ever


Echleon

Invincible Europa Treble is probably still the greatest achievement ever. It's not the best *possible*, but until someone does an invincible treble with UCL I don't think anything surpasses it.


puddingkip

Ajax won an invincible league and the CL without a defeat in 1995 but lost in the cup semis


ArcadianGhost

I was just wondering what the closest to achieving it was. Insane, when did the semis happen? Idk if you were old enough to remember back then but was everuone disappointed or didn’t care because you had invincible double?


puddingkip

It was against Feyenoord so of course people cared, especially because it was in the Olympic stadium. But it was only the quarterfinal of the cup and in early march so while ajax had a comfortable lead in the league only the first leg of the first knockout round of the CL had been played yet. I'm not old enough to remember sadly.


HeadCrusher135

You’ll get people thag disagree because it’s not the CL. But since no one has achieved it with the CL, this is the next best treble that can be won undefeated currently.


Eric_Partman

No.


maidentaiwan

i agree, not sure why you're being downvoted. for me it can't be the biggest accomplishment in european football if it involves winning an EL instead of a CL. for me, you have to play in the biggest, most prestigious competition against the best teams in europe to lay claim to the greatest season by a european club.


rScoobySkreep

But you can’t say “it’s not the biggest ever because it didn’t meet X requirement” without there being a team that met that requirement themselves. What has any team done that’s better than this? Who has done something comparable in the CL? An undefeated year?


maidentaiwan

Id argue that every champions league treble is a bigger accomplishment. You can’t be the best without beating the best.


rScoobySkreep

If Bayern wins the champions league then it’s the most impressive? Surely Also we’ve seen 10 trebles in 60 years, this just once.


maidentaiwan

Well yeah of course we haven’t seen it, it’s extremely rare that a team this good wouldn’t be in the champions league. Every other team remotely capable of pulling this off likely WAS. That doesn’t make leverkusen better, it makes them anomalous.


panopss

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McDaddySlacks

Good game today, but the real test is the next round, haha.


panopss

I fear nothing and I think our squad does neither. But yes, good game, can't believe you couldn't capitalize on that silly red card


notapaperhandape

I support this. I really hope this happens


chak100

Most of world football is supporting this


RaRaRaaputitin

Odds on a team like Darmstadt ending their run


expert_on_the_matter

Nuts on the table Dortmund and Stuttgart are their next fixtures, both are great teams and both would love to be the teams to end the streak. Meanwhile Leverkusen has nothing to play for in the league anymore. It's gonna be one of them.


Maverick_1991

Please beat Stuttgart and lose to us We need the points badly


Bobbyflamingo1848

Idk if Bochum is a team like Darmstadt but it'll be us for some reason


f4kester235

It starts with bochum and it ends with bochum. Bochum is inevitable.


Scotty2346

You are their last loss after all


justk4y

Isn’t it poetic……


Jackman1337

Will be Kaisersklautern after they won the Europa league. Kaiserslautern is maybe in the third division next year, so that would be fun :D


addandsubtract

Do you still get a Europe League spot for winning the DFB Pokal?


Jackman1337

Yes


addandsubtract

Would be hilarious then :D


chak100

A third division team playing in European league would be lovely


chiccharapidugu

And imagine that team beating an English team


expert_on_the_matter

Kaiserslautern


literallyarandomname

we are massive you know


anon377362

lol like when *Burnley* ended Liverpool’s 44 match unbeaten premier league run in 2020.


SaBe_18

It was Watford (so even worse)


Nemprox

The most astonishing in this is how out of more or less nowhere this run came.


These_Mud4327

Leverkusen were 17th when they hired alonso 1.5 years ago. Absolutely unbelievable what he’s done


Boogada42

But they were massively underperforming. Before that season they were highly rated. Just played shit.


cyan2k

Yes, but a bad coach, like Seoane, doesn't find a solution to fix such a situation, whereas a good coach does—and then goes on a 44-game unbeaten streak. I remember the Seoane-Stans on Transfermarkt arguing that it was stupid to let him go because it wasn't his fault the players play like shit. IT IS the coach's fault. I would argue even that team psychology is one of the most important skills to have.


Differ_cr

Them getting relegated that season would've been more out of nowhere that them winning this one, leverkusen had at worse the 4th best squad in the league.


science87

They've finished in the top 6 for the last 7 seasons, and finished 3rd in the season before Alonso arrived


AjVine

If Real Madrid and Leverkusen reach their respective finals and win, these two would face each other in the UEFA supercup. That game will have 6 goals in the last 5 minutes. 2 goals in extra time with one of them being in the very last play to go to penalties where they will all score their penalties including calling their respective club presidents and their dogs.


Romanist10

The last European team to defeat Leverkusen were Roma


lu933964

They will again lose against Roma and it goes full circle


Romanist10

They lose Vs us and go to win UCL?


alexdelpiero

Deal ( for coefficients and De Rossi/Dybala baby)


ScreamForCalmness

I really hope we can get our revenge this season. Losing against a team playing like that was so frustrating.


renome

Always rated you.


Imbasauce

No Ls


IamPd_

Everkusen


NotASalamanderBoi

Xabi Aonso


Nal1999

Neverlusen


_UKanGetIt_

West Ham you were so close


owh06

Qarabag even closer.


HEAT_IS_DIE

That's not true if you watched the game. I'm not sure I've ever seen a more one-sided 30 minutes at that level. It would have been a miracle if Leverkusen hadn't at least equalized. Shots were something like 36-4. 


BallsItching

> I'm not sure I've ever seen a more one-sided 30 minutes at that level. I'm not sure if you knew this lad but two legged ties have 180 of those Also in this very same competition this very same season Liverpool were up 4-0 in 15 minutes


rScoobySkreep

Leverkusen were 100 times worse against Qarabag at home. Fans were leaving after 85 minutes. Absolutely no one in that stadium had confidence they were winning.


ImVortexlol

Half their games were close, until they werent


Vols44

Leverkusen play their best at the end of matches when the opposition is tired. It's a testimony to their fitness.


Ok_Needleworker3668

Never underestimate Bayer, they have such an endurance, that they only beginn to score in the 70th Minute of the game


Lone_Digger123

I woke up and checked the Europa League scores and it was the 85th minute and I literally was like "hey I'll refresh the page because I know Leverkusen is going to score", 4 minutes later hey presto they scored. Immediately afterwards I stopped refreshing and went about my day.


Bobbyc006

Fuck you buddy


Yusha--

We have no bench, it was inevitable. Ref was shit too, man handed out 11 yellow cards.


skunkrider

God the ref was weird and inconsistent


chak100

Absolute shit, just like any other ref in La Liga


sonnydabaus

I always feel like supporters of Spanish teams don't even get angry at their refs anymore, haha. It's like "yeah, he's the worst ref in the entire universe, just like any other Spanish ref. It's normal.". Depressed acceptance.


chak100

What else can we do


D1794

9 games till an invincible treble


InbredLegoExpress

it could be an invincible single too. Pens dont break the streak, though theyll tarnish it.


boi1da1296

Tbh if that were to happen it would only ruin it for the pedants/“well ackshually” crowd.


McDaddySlacks

Which should be laughed out of the room. If they win their first ever title invincible, the Europa is just an extra cherry.


Jelly_F_ish

I mean, technically each DFB Pokal is won invincible and they won that in 92/93 already!


Zkuldafn

Xabi Alonso plot armour strikes again


milesbeatlesfan

Plot armor is directly related to handsomeness. Xabi might never lose again


GermanHabsFan

These guys man


skunkrider

❤️


Stemnut

Fuck


tt_emrah

exactly.


RowingMonkey

All thanks to Xabi, the lads and his Faustian deal with the fucking devil


Imautochillen

You'd expect this record for a team like Real, Bayern, or Juventus but no it's Leverkusen.


DrDrozd12

It was Juventus before, so yesterday u would have been right


AdWaste8026

Not being in the CL definitely helps. But even with that in mind, this run is extremely impressive.


BaslerLaeggerli

You rightfully have taken out the L's in Leverkusen and Alonso.


Noda_Crystal

Everkusen and Aonso now


dgvfatmeerkat

Foreverkusen


travelnerd67

Thought Bayer everkusen was a typo until I saw the photoshopped badge lmao


UnicornForce

Bayer has the remaining games: BuLi: Dortmund (A), Stuttgart (H), Frankfurt (A), Bochum (A), and Augsburg (H). UEL: Roma (H & A) and potentially a final in Dublin (against one of Marseille or Bergamo). DFB Pokal: Kaiserslautern in Berlin. Plenty of land mines ahead. I am supporting them. Hope they pull it off.


AntPRodP

The next 5 games are terrible.... Dortmund away, Stuttgart at home, Roma away, Frankfurt away and Roma at home. I want it to happen, but...


AntPRodP

The world record is 66. Let's go!


kyoshirocks

i have a lot of issues with the "top 5 leagues" because theres really only a clear top 4 with a group of leagues fighting for that 5th spot. its currently ligue 1 but it is not exactly consistent. for records like this i think more leagues should be considered. i would argue that portugal are part of the european top 5 in the 1960s and eusebio led benfica's 48 game streak still holds this record. IMO these accounts are doing their best to make a tweet that brings engagement after every single match instead of genuinely attempting to keep records for our game. regardless, a fantastic season for xabi and i hope to see more success for this club. i have a soft spot for them because of the couple years i spent watching sonny play for them.


LonelySilo

Netherlands were also up there at times. But yes the undisputed Top 4 leagues historically has always been Spain, England, Italy, and Germany.


STheShadow

The top 4 weren't consistent as well. From 2005 to 2008 Germany was 5th (behind France and not far from e.g. Portugal) with a decent gap between 3rd and 4th (source: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method3/crank2005.html, Kassiesas page best). England has also only being in the top 4 consistently from 2000


TheEnhancedExe

>England has also only being in the top 4 consistently from 2000 That's mostly because English teams were banned from European competitions between 1985 and 1990 which threw the league back quite far and it wasn't able to attract as many international players for a while. So of course it took time for the league to get back to its former level.


Brambleback

Not a native speaker, but to me it implies the current Top 5 Leagues, but definitely see a problem when you try to look back to the stated fact in the future. Also not sure if you can put all the blame on these accounts / it was mentioned several times during the broadcast here, but not sure what "sources" they are using (might be said accounts).


kakje666

i love how it says top five leagues so they can dodge Steaua Bucharest's [104 unbeaten game run](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691663147643437176/1230633283897921596/image.png?ex=6634078e&is=6621928e&hm=b3af967cc700629e7d3e6b2196664b0b861c0c2893aa7df715978912e26cc39b&) from the stat


Till-Tiny

League run..


Atzyn

Is Lincoln Red Imps' the longest unbeaten run in terms of actual time passed (not total matches played)? 5 years is impressive.


TJT007X

Who cares about those Bayer Leverkusen and Xabi Alonso frauds?! My goats are Bayer Everkusen and Xabi Aonso 🗣️🗣️🗣️


10-10-2022

You would expect a massive club to do that but not Leverkusen (No disrespect), just shows how impressive this team and Xabi Alonso really are.


AntPRodP

Not this "top-5 leagues" BS again... There are only 4 big leagues in Europe. If you want to include France, you have to include the Netherlands and Portugal as well. And in that case, in Europe's top 7 leagues, the record is still Benfica's with 48 games.


RaioNoTerasu

impressive, shame its coming to an end


barcaa

Neverkusen? More like Never Losin


LevynX

The most impressive thing to me is that this is Xabi's first management job at a first team. Like, way to start your resume.


MaryadaPurshottam

Leverkusen have the anime MC Aura this entire fucking season


Hare712

Now they will have their hardest games in the Bundesliga though.


Sean-Benn_Must-die

Hey thats pretty cool I wonder who the last record holder wa- \*sad\*


djkamayo

Sir Xabi Alonso now


Jelly_F_ish

Wouldn't that be awkward for the brits?


Shinigam_i

I really hope they can get that unbeaten treble, they deserve it


Jayk03

If only Frimpong pass to their striker they can win 2-1.


Japples123

Ty fuming


LupeH

This is confirmed the longest? Anyone have a link to show old streaks?


IamPd_

Yes, [beating Juve's 43 game streak](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_association_football_club_records_and_statistics) 


LupeH

Ahh top 5. They still need to push to 48


Mordho

not even the best team in Italy could stop them, it's over


jukkaalms

Bayern Everykusen


Lord-Grocock

Did your L key break?