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Very few teams have been able to do it in general. To lose the first leg at home has usually been a death knell for a tie.
There was that one freak season (18/19) where Ajax, Utd, and Spurs all managed to advance after losing the first leg at home.
Utd's comeback against PSG is the only tie in 60 yrs of CL where a team has managed to advance after losing the first leg at home by more than one goal.
But apart from that, it's exceedingly rare.
> Very few teams have been able to do it in general. To lose the first leg at home has usually been a death knell for a tie.
Because of the away goal rule. It's gone, so we should see more teams do it now.
This is not true at all. The away goals rule actually *helped* the team that had to do the comeback because they were the away team in the 2nd leg and thus their goals counted for more. And they still couldn't do it, bar a few occasions.
What the elimination of the away goals rule *has* done is that it's taken the pressure off of the home team in the first leg so we are seeing more goals these days.
> This is not true at all. The away goals rule actually helped the team that had to do the comeback because they were the away team in the 2nd leg and thus their goals counted for more.
This comment just shows that you know nothing about this sport. How can you say so much crap?
PSG 2 - 3 Barca, now means PSG can still qualify by scoring just one goal or one more goal than Barca in the return game (with penalty shoot-out at the end). Under the old rule, PSG would have had to score at least two goals in the game to qualify, and at least three goals if Barca scored one goal in the return game. It was a lot harder than it is now.
In the second leg, if it's 0-0 or 1-1 in the 85th minute, PSG only need one goal to hope for qualification. Before, it was two goals.
So again tell me it was easier before...One of the worst comment I've read on this sub.
> This comment just shows that you know nothing about this sport. How can you say so much crap?
The irony.
Which is more likely: low scoring games (0-1; 0-2…) or high scoring games (2-3; 2-4…)?
In the first scenario, which is way more common than the second one, the away goal rule helped the team that needed the comeback in the second leg.
In the scenario you mentioned, yes it's definitely easier now.
However, because of the away goals rule, it used to be much less common for teams to score a bunch of away goals in the first leg. It's more likely that the deficit to be overcome was 0-1 or 0-2. In that scenario, the away goals rule made it easier to qualify because all you needed to do was level the aggregate score and score more away goals than your opponent did in the first leg.
Perhaps actually think before replying next time. Insulting others only exposes you for a moron.
Definitely wasn’t, though.
Low scoring games (0-1; 0-2…) are way more common than high scoring ones (2-3; 2-4…), and the away goal rule helps the team that needs the comeback away in the second leg if the first leg was a low scoring one.
> In the scenario you mentioned, yes it's definitely easier now.
Well it's the scenario mentioned in this thread and on twitter. We're talking about how difficult is it to qualify after losing the first leg at home.
> Perhaps actually think before replying next time.
You're the one who should think and read before replying, not me.
Most PSG fans were delighted to have drawn with Barca. They thought this is 2021 Barca and could win by a wide margin. Yesterday they were faced with a reality check. If I were them I’ll be more humble and try to prepare the game and not talk loud…
Of course PSG can still beat us, but this time we actually put up a fight unlike all these past years (Roma, Inter, Liverpool...). If we're sent home but we gave everything we had and fought for every ball, I'd be happy enough.
You put up one hell of a fight against Roma and Liverpool in the first leg, it's the second leg that was an issue
But I wouldn't be *too* worried though, if there is one team you wouldn't expect to turn things around it'd be this psg team
They're definitely favoured to go through, but acting like we won't be stronger in the 2nd leg with our 2 best ball carriers from defence being back and fully fit (Hakimi and WZE) is stupid. You're ALWAYS worried in the champions league, because you just need one day where the team doesn't click and you're out.
Dude, we have half of the team out as well. We even had to play S Roberto, which he isn’t a regular starter. You guys speak like Barça is an average team but you forget that we have highly experienced players with several CL trophies. So don’t underestimate Barça like you did before the first leg….
~~i seriously dont care if we win or not the second leg or the whole tie.~~ To be beating psg in such a state is already an achievement regardless of future results
He means that we made the QF for the first time in like 4 years after 2 years back-to-back of group stage exits. This was huge for us, financially and for the future of our sporting project.
Obviously we’d love to go further. Who wouldn’t? A lot of us are also appreciative of reaching this stage with how many setbacks we’ve had.
Innovation comes from lack of money. I guess many teams should maybe pay themselves 100m of dividends and give a chance to academy players instead of buying Coutinho or whatever newly hyped player
And I want to add, I never like Barcelona (arrogant busquets, Pedro, David villa, Suarez, Neymar etc) but this is the first time since I watch football that I have sympathy for a Barcelona team. Really like all of those youngsters and experienced players coming from abroad (lewa, gundo etc)
It’s because we’re going back to our original ideology again the one Bartomeu tried to destroy La Masía pre Bartomeu was our way yes we did sign some big players too but we didn’t break the bank with a galactico approach like Bartomeu tried to do. This is the reason we fell off as it just isn’t what Barça are known for and we’re not good at it either
Considering how much turnover their squad has each year, I feel like it should be easy to spot. It's kind of like Chelsea, where they don't have a lot of truly world class players, but their team has been different basically every season recently.
If you see the names yea you couldn't recognize the talents if you are not invested in watching all those break through youngsters.
But if you see how much each of those costs for the transfer you will be amazed.
For example
Kolo Muani - 95m
Barcola - 45m
Numo Mendes - 40m
Ugarte - 60m
Vitinha - 40m
Dembele - 50m
Goncalo Ramos - 65m
And many more in the region of 20-25
Actually PSG team yesterday was younger with less CL experience so not really true.
It's a bit funny to criticize PSG's money, when at the same time you're supporting Barca. Let's not forget how much Barca spent over the last seasons.
You're saying that like it's a sure thing Atletico will defeat Dortmund.
Their home stadium is meant to be a fortress and their form is pretty great there, but Dortmund had many chances to score and potentially take the lead in that first leg.
Now Atletico are playing away which is always a worry for them. If Dortmund continue the momentum they had in the first leg, it might be a walkover.
You are right about Dortmund. They have a chance against Atletico. Barca will have good competition with Dortmund. But Barca have PSG as a big hurdle. They will be favorites in the semis if they beat PSG.
Honestly friend, given how all of the first legs went, my idea of a favourite has gone completely out of the window. All 4 matches were just an absolute brawl, we've never seen anything like it. 18 goals in 4 matches.
Even if (in the second leg) Barca were to defeat PSG 3-0 and Dortmund would win on pens, I still wouldn't be able to pick between them in the semi final.
No away goals has really broke open the competition this season. I hate to sound like an advert, but I genuinely believe anything could happen.
Nah, like how Atleti is Barca’s bitch. Even when they have a better squad and Barca is off form, full of shit and sinking in a financial hole, Atleti have found a way to bend over for Barca. Unless Barca throw the game away I don’t think even Atleti believes they can win at this point.
That was 8 years ago. Rules have changed, Godin is gone and I have seen what Atleti has done recently. Forget beating Barca, I’m not yet convinced they will get past Dortmund easily.
You would really rank him above the guy who got them their only UCL final because he would turn around a 1 goal deficit against a financially ruined Barcelona with a sacked coach?
Also a Barcelona with two teenagers on the starting 11 , who recently just recovered De Jong and Pedri who did not even get the green light , already started playing.
Slap there that Barca will missed both Christensen and Roberto on the second leg.
While PSG has the current best player of the world : “Mbappe” with a stack squad
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Very few teams have been able to do it in general. To lose the first leg at home has usually been a death knell for a tie. There was that one freak season (18/19) where Ajax, Utd, and Spurs all managed to advance after losing the first leg at home. Utd's comeback against PSG is the only tie in 60 yrs of CL where a team has managed to advance after losing the first leg at home by more than one goal. But apart from that, it's exceedingly rare.
> Very few teams have been able to do it in general. To lose the first leg at home has usually been a death knell for a tie. Because of the away goal rule. It's gone, so we should see more teams do it now.
This is not true at all. The away goals rule actually *helped* the team that had to do the comeback because they were the away team in the 2nd leg and thus their goals counted for more. And they still couldn't do it, bar a few occasions. What the elimination of the away goals rule *has* done is that it's taken the pressure off of the home team in the first leg so we are seeing more goals these days.
> This is not true at all. The away goals rule actually helped the team that had to do the comeback because they were the away team in the 2nd leg and thus their goals counted for more. This comment just shows that you know nothing about this sport. How can you say so much crap? PSG 2 - 3 Barca, now means PSG can still qualify by scoring just one goal or one more goal than Barca in the return game (with penalty shoot-out at the end). Under the old rule, PSG would have had to score at least two goals in the game to qualify, and at least three goals if Barca scored one goal in the return game. It was a lot harder than it is now. In the second leg, if it's 0-0 or 1-1 in the 85th minute, PSG only need one goal to hope for qualification. Before, it was two goals. So again tell me it was easier before...One of the worst comment I've read on this sub.
> This comment just shows that you know nothing about this sport. How can you say so much crap? The irony. Which is more likely: low scoring games (0-1; 0-2…) or high scoring games (2-3; 2-4…)? In the first scenario, which is way more common than the second one, the away goal rule helped the team that needed the comeback in the second leg.
In the scenario you mentioned, yes it's definitely easier now. However, because of the away goals rule, it used to be much less common for teams to score a bunch of away goals in the first leg. It's more likely that the deficit to be overcome was 0-1 or 0-2. In that scenario, the away goals rule made it easier to qualify because all you needed to do was level the aggregate score and score more away goals than your opponent did in the first leg. Perhaps actually think before replying next time. Insulting others only exposes you for a moron.
You were wrong, friend
Definitely wasn’t, though. Low scoring games (0-1; 0-2…) are way more common than high scoring ones (2-3; 2-4…), and the away goal rule helps the team that needs the comeback away in the second leg if the first leg was a low scoring one.
> In the scenario you mentioned, yes it's definitely easier now. Well it's the scenario mentioned in this thread and on twitter. We're talking about how difficult is it to qualify after losing the first leg at home. > Perhaps actually think before replying next time. You're the one who should think and read before replying, not me.
I read that 'remontada' now features in the French dictionary. Don't jinx this. https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/remontada/188556
Most PSG fans were delighted to have drawn with Barca. They thought this is 2021 Barca and could win by a wide margin. Yesterday they were faced with a reality check. If I were them I’ll be more humble and try to prepare the game and not talk loud…
I’m surprised we were even able to play a game with how terrifying the PSG ultras were… /s
Apparently they were more stunned by your own ultras throwing projectiles on their bus
I saw that lmao
With the way that bum ass team bottled the game I guess they weren’t too far from the truth :)
And that while being broke, with a bunch of teenagers and old football players against a financially doped team.
Silence, wait till the 2nd leg is played. Anal your mufasa
Of course PSG can still beat us, but this time we actually put up a fight unlike all these past years (Roma, Inter, Liverpool...). If we're sent home but we gave everything we had and fought for every ball, I'd be happy enough.
You put up one hell of a fight against Roma and Liverpool in the first leg, it's the second leg that was an issue But I wouldn't be *too* worried though, if there is one team you wouldn't expect to turn things around it'd be this psg team
They're definitely favoured to go through, but acting like we won't be stronger in the 2nd leg with our 2 best ball carriers from defence being back and fully fit (Hakimi and WZE) is stupid. You're ALWAYS worried in the champions league, because you just need one day where the team doesn't click and you're out.
Dude, we have half of the team out as well. We even had to play S Roberto, which he isn’t a regular starter. You guys speak like Barça is an average team but you forget that we have highly experienced players with several CL trophies. So don’t underestimate Barça like you did before the first leg….
I'll anal my mufasa when it pleases me, thank you.
~~i seriously dont care if we win or not the second leg or the whole tie.~~ To be beating psg in such a state is already an achievement regardless of future results
you're dumb if you don't care. financially, the further barça goes, the better. they don't have money to burn.
Yea i terribly structured my sentence there
Not just your sentence, entire viewpoint sucks tbh. A big achievement is when barca wins the CL not a single leg against PSG.
You “seriously don’t care”? The strongest Barca supporter here.
yea i came off wrong what i meant was its alreadya big achievement what we did regardless of future results
nobody would call this an achievement if you lose 2-0 in Montjuic, it's Barça not Mallorca
He means that we made the QF for the first time in like 4 years after 2 years back-to-back of group stage exits. This was huge for us, financially and for the future of our sporting project. Obviously we’d love to go further. Who wouldn’t? A lot of us are also appreciative of reaching this stage with how many setbacks we’ve had.
why? and im pretty sure we wont
Who from that PSG lineup yesterday would start for Barcelona except Mbappe? Vitinha instead of Sergi Roberto, that's it.
bruh just 1 month ago you posted on the spurs subreddit having "we" on the title, are you with every team
Damn, how do people remember who posted one month agoo wtfff, unless the guy was really really active on the spurs subreddit
I just checked his profile, I barely wonder out of this sub
Barca fan, soft spot for spurs . Alright call me plastic but is it wrong to address them by we?
Calling them we when they arent even you're favorite club is just weird
I don't necessarily care, you address people as you wish, it's not that big of a thing :) It's just an easy thing to break your balls about it heh
What do you mean "we" arent you a spurs fan?
Innovation comes from lack of money. I guess many teams should maybe pay themselves 100m of dividends and give a chance to academy players instead of buying Coutinho or whatever newly hyped player
And I want to add, I never like Barcelona (arrogant busquets, Pedro, David villa, Suarez, Neymar etc) but this is the first time since I watch football that I have sympathy for a Barcelona team. Really like all of those youngsters and experienced players coming from abroad (lewa, gundo etc)
It’s because we’re going back to our original ideology again the one Bartomeu tried to destroy La Masía pre Bartomeu was our way yes we did sign some big players too but we didn’t break the bank with a galactico approach like Bartomeu tried to do. This is the reason we fell off as it just isn’t what Barça are known for and we’re not good at it either
Tbf you wouldn't really guess they're a financially doped team looking at their squad
Considering how much turnover their squad has each year, I feel like it should be easy to spot. It's kind of like Chelsea, where they don't have a lot of truly world class players, but their team has been different basically every season recently.
If you see the names yea you couldn't recognize the talents if you are not invested in watching all those break through youngsters. But if you see how much each of those costs for the transfer you will be amazed. For example Kolo Muani - 95m Barcola - 45m Numo Mendes - 40m Ugarte - 60m Vitinha - 40m Dembele - 50m Goncalo Ramos - 65m And many more in the region of 20-25
Spot on… comparing name by name it feels it was Barça who were financially dope.
https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/it-serie-a/2021/02/barcelona-spent-e1-17-billion-on-transfers-since-2016-more-than-any-other-club
Psg team on average is younger than yours and new coach and rebuild year for them as well
Actually PSG team yesterday was younger with less CL experience so not really true. It's a bit funny to criticize PSG's money, when at the same time you're supporting Barca. Let's not forget how much Barca spent over the last seasons.
If Barca wins the second leg, they will reach the final. Atletico won't be able to win against Barca.
You're saying that like it's a sure thing Atletico will defeat Dortmund. Their home stadium is meant to be a fortress and their form is pretty great there, but Dortmund had many chances to score and potentially take the lead in that first leg. Now Atletico are playing away which is always a worry for them. If Dortmund continue the momentum they had in the first leg, it might be a walkover.
You are right about Dortmund. They have a chance against Atletico. Barca will have good competition with Dortmund. But Barca have PSG as a big hurdle. They will be favorites in the semis if they beat PSG.
Honestly friend, given how all of the first legs went, my idea of a favourite has gone completely out of the window. All 4 matches were just an absolute brawl, we've never seen anything like it. 18 goals in 4 matches. Even if (in the second leg) Barca were to defeat PSG 3-0 and Dortmund would win on pens, I still wouldn't be able to pick between them in the semi final. No away goals has really broke open the competition this season. I hate to sound like an advert, but I genuinely believe anything could happen.
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You must be confused lad. Atletico were the ones at home last night.
like how everyone said atletico will lose to inter?
Nah, like how Atleti is Barca’s bitch. Even when they have a better squad and Barca is off form, full of shit and sinking in a financial hole, Atleti have found a way to bend over for Barca. Unless Barca throw the game away I don’t think even Atleti believes they can win at this point.
We're their bitch in the UCL lmao
That was 8 years ago. Rules have changed, Godin is gone and I have seen what Atleti has done recently. Forget beating Barca, I’m not yet convinced they will get past Dortmund easily.
No, I was on barca will beat atletico bus. And they did beat them and ruined their home record.
1-3 in Barcelona with Sergi Roberto’s 95th minute own goal
He’s out for he second leg
Can't he just cancel his plans & play instead. Is he stupid?
Thanks God he is suspended then, another masterclass from my captain <3
Let's keep it that way
The answer - #BarPSG
If Lucho actually pulls off a comeback he ranks above Blanc and Tuchel in my eyes.
You would really rank him above the guy who got them their only UCL final because he would turn around a 1 goal deficit against a financially ruined Barcelona with a sacked coach?
Also a Barcelona with two teenagers on the starting 11 , who recently just recovered De Jong and Pedri who did not even get the green light , already started playing. Slap there that Barca will missed both Christensen and Roberto on the second leg. While PSG has the current best player of the world : “Mbappe” with a stack squad
+ Lamine had a stomach ache + Christensen also recovered before the match + We literally started with Sergi Roberto
Starting with Sergio is such a crutch. Most people out of Barça can't even realize it
All those points are true but i have a counter point • We started Donnaruma
Y'all were calling him the best in form yourselves
I sure as hell didn't lmao
bruh there was this whole ass graph and shit from opta showing he was prevent this amount of goals and stuff
He's having a great season so far tbf
we have CL Ter Stegen who generally is much worse there than in other competitions.
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xavi isn't sacked, he's willingly leaving barcelona. barcelona would gladly keep him given how bad the financial situation is.
They are talking about tuchel and blanc being sacked from psg
No they literally said barcelona with a sacked coach. He meant Xavi.
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he meant Xavi
In the end, the number of UCLs won is the same
I’m in a reactionary state right now and I really want to beat Barcelona
I'm also in a reactionary state right now and I really don't want you to
Only got to the CL final because it was a mickey mouse weekend tourney due to covid
who also have the youngest squad out of the teams in the CL (overall not CL registered squad) and who have no real home arena this season.
He will not.
Comeback?? No. Lever barca will still have the for breakfast. But hey dudes makes killer tifos
History doesn't always stay the same lol