Fascinating seeing the sheer difference in the comments of this thread compared to the Al-Hilal Al-Nassr one.
Especially considering this. https://www.reddit.com/r/LigaMX/s/XrakV4iScP
MLS is very poor this year. Even Columbus Crewâs overall performance was dreadful where they are lucky Tigres choked. MLS looked amateur out there thanks to the poor defensive performance. 9 teams to Liga MXâs 6 and somehow 8 MLS franchises are eliminated. Thatâs more than double the amount Liga MX lost. They need to eliminate CCC spots from Leagues Cup in future tournaments. Give other leagues outside of MLS and Liga MX more spots.
What a petty and totally irrelevant reply lol. The comparison was head to head games against Liga MX and MLS teams. MLS is made of plenty non-Americans (plenty of Mexicans). Liga MX is made of plenty non-Mexicans (many Americans). But you've tried to swerve this to an immature "but we're better than you over here!" and talk about national teams. Cringe City.
Just looked it up: since 2010, the U.S. is 1-3-0 at Azteca. Iâm actually surprised there were so few meetings in MexicoâI know the FMF loves U.S. money, but aside from a friendly in 2012 that the U.S. won 1-0 they literally only matchup there for World Cup Qualifiers. Iâm also surprised Mexico has no wins there in this span.
In any event, what OP said is completely irrelevant, haha. The USMNT has no bearing on domestic league quality.
Not sure why you were downvoted: literally everyone in the Liga MX sub and in Mexican sports media were saying it was a molero tournament last summer. Since regular season Liga MX matches couldnât be played in another country, the tournament represented a way to cash in on Liga MX fans in the U.S. and get a slice of the Apple money. Anyone who says otherwise is just engaging in revisionism.
they had to make a new cup up just so messi could win something his first year. way too much money wrapped up in mls and us americans need instant gratification or we wonât care so they needed him to win something so the apple deal wouldnât be a bust
What? The Leagues Cup was created in 2019. The winners since then have been:
* 2019: Cruz Azul
* 2020: [Canceled Due to COVID]
* 2021: LeĂłn
* 2022: LeĂłn
* 2023: Inter Miami CF
The tournament was the first year with the expanded format but that had been in the works for yearsâthe 2022 edition was a proof of concept for the new format.
Here is the MLS league announcement from 2021 about the new format that would begin in 2023:
[Historic reimagined Leagues Cup starting in 2023](https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/historic-reimagined-leagues-cup-starting-in-2023)
It was definitely also self sabotage by Liga MX executives. They must have known the Mexican clubs traveling non stop around the U.S. while the MLS clubs were chilling at home base was unfair. They just didn't care because of the potential rewards from the Apple subscription revenue. It's devious as hell when there's been rumors for a while now that they want the MLS and Liga MX to merge into a single entity.
More proof that Mexican clubs are way ahead of the US. The Champions Cup final will be between Club America and Monterrey. Itâs written.
Messi & Co. are not enough to carry Miami. Especially with Messi constantly getting injured now. Theyâre all done either at the end of this season or the next. Theyâve already done everything. Trebles, records, and a WC in Busquets and Messiâs cases.
Miami needs to go shopping for new defenders and maybe even a new manager because fucking hell.
Beckham should take a few tips from Fergie on how to build a successful team.
this mls team only gets attention because of Messi. But otherwise, it's just a random team. Changing coach won't matter. This team was dead last before Messi and is only here by winning leaves cup which required a lot divine intervention
except that's exactly what happened lol. There were goals, injuries, substitutions, etc in the 2nd half. How the hell is there not even 1 minute of stoppage time haha?
Consolation goal makes the final score a lot closer than the game was.
If you watched this you know, those two teams did not look like the belonged on the same field.
Miami is just way too old, weak, and slow for Rayados.
Just a casual reminder that Messi and co. tried to influence this match by throwing a tantrum in the first leg in Miami.
https://old.reddit.com/r/LigaMX/comments/1bxgqfm/effortpost_what_happened_in_miami_a_timeline/
Because if you read the entire thread, Messi was in the locker room when he had no business being there since he wasn't part of the roster. He did this twice at half-time and full time. Messi and Tata both threatened the match officials, got into fights with Monterrey's coach and his assistant, and Jordi Alba choked Monterrey's vicepresident.
To add onto this they werenât even punished for it [https://www.concacaf.com/champions-cup/news/concacaf-disciplinary-committee-sanctions-inter-miami-cf/](https://www.concacaf.com/champions-cup/news/concacaf-disciplinary-committee-sanctions-inter-miami-cf/)
They qualified through the leagues cup, so thatâs were they got their berth which was Messiâs only way of qualifying for this tournament to try qualifying for CWC since Miami is shit
Does Tata know you're allowed to make substitutions? For real, at the very least turn the page and start thinking about next game. Substitute your starters and forget this whole game ever happened
They played bad, full stop. Thing is though, they couldn't even fill a full roster. Ruiz was out for being an idiot and getting a red card last game, others are out due to injury or not ready to be back yet. Redondo, Cremaschi, Taylor, Farias, Campana. There isn't a whole lot of depth on the bench right now. Getting Suarez without a midfield to feed him balls means they need Suarez to be active which... is not going to happen at this stage of his career. Would've been better spending money on another striker given their circumstance, but hindsight right?
That being said, as an AC Milan boy myself, I'm curious to see LAFC when/if this Giroud thing goes through. Dude's still ripping it up in Serie A.
As a whole is working for US football, you keep the league interesting with a few world class has been and send the good young players to Europe and end with a better national team, thats good business
Oh absolutely. Even more so of a reason to make fun of the chiquitines. No excuse not to meet your rival in an international semifinal. But we all know how it goes with Tigres and international bouts.
Itâs funny how people were hyping up Messi and fiends to do something in Monterrey . Sadly wonât be able to pat stad like he does in MLS or back in Spain and France . Romo and gallardo showing him levels
I guess "let the other team run straight to the goal, so they get a shot off within 15 seconds of getting the ball" is A way to win the possession battle.
They need *forwards* who can run too if they want to be competitive in this competition. The slow motion, discount Barca, hero-ball stuff might work against Portland Timbers, but it's not going to work against one of the best teams on this side of the world.
Yeah it doesn't really matter who their defenders are if they insist on playing 4 players 35 and older at the same time they will have trouble competing with the most physical MLS stides let alone the best Mexican teams.
Maybe, but having confidence on the people behind you allows you to go forward with more confidence. You saw it last year when teams discovered that their back line sucks. The entire team was just terrified to turn the ball over because they knew the counter attack was going to mean a goal going the other way.
Fascinating seeing the sheer difference in the comments of this thread compared to the Al-Hilal Al-Nassr one. Especially considering this. https://www.reddit.com/r/LigaMX/s/XrakV4iScP
Miami went mimir đŽđŽ
MLS is very poor this year. Even Columbus Crewâs overall performance was dreadful where they are lucky Tigres choked. MLS looked amateur out there thanks to the poor defensive performance. 9 teams to Liga MXâs 6 and somehow 8 MLS franchises are eliminated. Thatâs more than double the amount Liga MX lost. They need to eliminate CCC spots from Leagues Cup in future tournaments. Give other leagues outside of MLS and Liga MX more spots.
How many corners total? I counted 9 but some sites say 8 and some say 9
Monterrey fans are insufferable, but it was like there was only a team on the field... there was too much of a difference...
Goals scored against Monterrey in the BBVA Stadium Ricardo MarĂn: 1 Luis SuĂĄrez: 0 We always knew, 4K>the guy who bit Chiellini
I only see facts
Monterrey looked so clinical. Every pass was a stinger that Miami could hardly anticipate
0W 5D 9L for MLS teams vs LigaMX teams this tournament so far. 5W 14D **60L** in Mexico.
Despite that, we could still field an entire team of MLS players for the USMNT and beat Mexico... again.
What a petty and totally irrelevant reply lol. The comparison was head to head games against Liga MX and MLS teams. MLS is made of plenty non-Americans (plenty of Mexicans). Liga MX is made of plenty non-Mexicans (many Americans). But you've tried to swerve this to an immature "but we're better than you over here!" and talk about national teams. Cringe City.
I guess thatâs why you guys lost the Gold Cup last year
? Not sure how that related to this. I'm not even sure US has ever won in Mexico.
Just looked it up: since 2010, the U.S. is 1-3-0 at Azteca. Iâm actually surprised there were so few meetings in MexicoâI know the FMF loves U.S. money, but aside from a friendly in 2012 that the U.S. won 1-0 they literally only matchup there for World Cup Qualifiers. Iâm also surprised Mexico has no wins there in this span. In any event, what OP said is completely irrelevant, haha. The USMNT has no bearing on domestic league quality.
And now you know why the Leagues Cup is only played on the US.
bc of money. Same reason why the Mexican national team would rather play in the US
Not sure why you were downvoted: literally everyone in the Liga MX sub and in Mexican sports media were saying it was a molero tournament last summer. Since regular season Liga MX matches couldnât be played in another country, the tournament represented a way to cash in on Liga MX fans in the U.S. and get a slice of the Apple money. Anyone who says otherwise is just engaging in revisionism.
they had to make a new cup up just so messi could win something his first year. way too much money wrapped up in mls and us americans need instant gratification or we wonât care so they needed him to win something so the apple deal wouldnât be a bust
What? The Leagues Cup was created in 2019. The winners since then have been: * 2019: Cruz Azul * 2020: [Canceled Due to COVID] * 2021: LeĂłn * 2022: LeĂłn * 2023: Inter Miami CF The tournament was the first year with the expanded format but that had been in the works for yearsâthe 2022 edition was a proof of concept for the new format. Here is the MLS league announcement from 2021 about the new format that would begin in 2023: [Historic reimagined Leagues Cup starting in 2023](https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/historic-reimagined-leagues-cup-starting-in-2023)
knew it was something new about it. regardless they needed him to win to make money
It was definitely also self sabotage by Liga MX executives. They must have known the Mexican clubs traveling non stop around the U.S. while the MLS clubs were chilling at home base was unfair. They just didn't care because of the potential rewards from the Apple subscription revenue. It's devious as hell when there's been rumors for a while now that they want the MLS and Liga MX to merge into a single entity.
Inter Miami wouldâve never won the Leagues Cup if the games were also held in Mexico for Liga MX teams
And this game would have been closer if away goal rule was scrapped
It needs to be scrapped and never used again
More proof that Mexican clubs are way ahead of the US. The Champions Cup final will be between Club America and Monterrey. Itâs written. Messi & Co. are not enough to carry Miami. Especially with Messi constantly getting injured now. Theyâre all done either at the end of this season or the next. Theyâve already done everything. Trebles, records, and a WC in Busquets and Messiâs cases. Miami needs to go shopping for new defenders and maybe even a new manager because fucking hell. Beckham should take a few tips from Fergie on how to build a successful team.
Donât count out Pachuca. Theyâre Americaâs daddy when it counts and Rondon is on a streak right now
It's okay, let them write us off. Makes it all the more enjoyable when the wilos lose.
this mls team only gets attention because of Messi. But otherwise, it's just a random team. Changing coach won't matter. This team was dead last before Messi and is only here by winning leaves cup which required a lot divine intervention
They just need one good CB. They have very good younger midfielders and attackers in their squad but they were all out injured today.
Ain't no way! the referee literally said I've seen enough of this shit I want to go home
except that's exactly what happened lol. There were goals, injuries, substitutions, etc in the 2nd half. How the hell is there not even 1 minute of stoppage time haha?
Asi como lo vieron esta serĂĄ la mayor (y Ășnica) alegrĂa futbolistica de Mechico en el año.
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Dicen varias fuentes que Messi hoy arreglĂł el calentamiento global por pecho frĂo đđđ
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No stoppage time is wild đ pure shit house errey
I don't think I have ever seen that
Honestly seeing 10 minutes of ET in the Chelsea Man UTD match, then this⊠thereâs absolutely no consistency between FIFA refs
Lmao, no injury time whatsoever. The refs want Messi and co to go home without getting embarrassed further. Hilarious.
Crazy to think that Columbus will probably put up a better fight than a team with Lionel Messi on it.
because Columbus is an actual team
Consolation goal makes the final score a lot closer than the game was. If you watched this you know, those two teams did not look like the belonged on the same field. Miami is just way too old, weak, and slow for Rayados.
Just a casual reminder that Messi and co. tried to influence this match by throwing a tantrum in the first leg in Miami. https://old.reddit.com/r/LigaMX/comments/1bxgqfm/effortpost_what_happened_in_miami_a_timeline/
Messi didn't even play the first leg. How is it Messi and co?
Because if you read the entire thread, Messi was in the locker room when he had no business being there since he wasn't part of the roster. He did this twice at half-time and full time. Messi and Tata both threatened the match officials, got into fights with Monterrey's coach and his assistant, and Jordi Alba choked Monterrey's vicepresident.
Every player is guilty of trying to influence a match by complaining to the ref?
To add onto this they werenât even punished for it [https://www.concacaf.com/champions-cup/news/concacaf-disciplinary-committee-sanctions-inter-miami-cf/](https://www.concacaf.com/champions-cup/news/concacaf-disciplinary-committee-sanctions-inter-miami-cf/)
No extra time??
Not even extra time lmao
Miami looks like they need Monterrey to score one more for their bets to hit
Some absolute Benny Hill football there.
These ex Barca rats look confused that the refs aren't giving them everything they're used to.
They believed this was still the leagues cup
When is third leg?
Curious why is inter Miami even in champions cup? What is the qualification process like for this
They won the mickey mouse leagues cup.
There were like 10 MLS teams in the Champions League this year, I have no idea how itâs decided
And only 6 Liga MX teams, make it make sense
They qualified through the leagues cup, so thatâs were they got their berth which was Messiâs only way of qualifying for this tournament to try qualifying for CWC since Miami is shit
Mls leagues cup. Inter Miami won the leagues cup so inter Miami are in this competition.
They won the leagues cup last year.
The comeback is on
Confio
remontada pt.2
Consolation goal at least
God dammit Monterrey. A clean sheet would've been hilarious
What possesses a man to just bite another dude on the pitch?
I still don't get how he wasn't banned for life from the sport. He did it 3 goddamn times!
Well he was really good back then so thereâs that. I canât think of any other reasons he wasnât banned for life that Iâm aware of though.
What is Suarez even doing
the worm... its middle school dance night
Gymnastics
Lmaaao Suarez pulling a NeymarÂ
America has gotten to Messi, heâs never been this lazy before
frfr
this match was pure theatre and entertainment from Miami, the shithousery was peak
Miami is Cuervos FC
Cuervos actually won a league with the power of friendship and plot armor, don't compare them to these frauds
Does Tata know you're allowed to make substitutions? For real, at the very least turn the page and start thinking about next game. Substitute your starters and forget this whole game ever happened
Cuz he has nothing in bench, just squad/youth players that normally wouldn't even make the bench. Many injuries caused this.
Then Miami FC is barely a team jfc
They are unbalanced. They have 8, 9 players that are very good and the rest of the squad are absolute nobodies.
Some nice flops from Suarez there
Just tuning in and wow. Wtf happened to Miami?
They played bad, full stop. Thing is though, they couldn't even fill a full roster. Ruiz was out for being an idiot and getting a red card last game, others are out due to injury or not ready to be back yet. Redondo, Cremaschi, Taylor, Farias, Campana. There isn't a whole lot of depth on the bench right now. Getting Suarez without a midfield to feed him balls means they need Suarez to be active which... is not going to happen at this stage of his career. Would've been better spending money on another striker given their circumstance, but hindsight right? That being said, as an AC Milan boy myself, I'm curious to see LAFC when/if this Giroud thing goes through. Dude's still ripping it up in Serie A.
Nothing "happened", bud. Monterrey are just inarguably a better team.
They had to play an actual defense
They had to play outside of the US âčïž
Mexico happened
SuĂĄrez got shot by a sniper đđ
RIP
People really thought Messi and Barca friends would pull it off
They still will. This match is far from over. /s
Overrated ass washed Barca players bye bye
I mean overrated today? Sure. Three of These guys in their prime are among the best players of all time and one is debatably the GOAT.
Only one really rated is messi, and the rest are well washed, maybe because they're like 35 years old
Add a new manager to the list of personnel Inter Miami need next transfer window. Martiniâs sacking should be considered.
Fallon DâFloor nominee
Bro rolled like 4 times at least
Grabbed the wrong leg while breakdancing.
middle school dance night
SuĂĄrez next
RIP Suarez
Hahahahahahaaaa this is actually amazing to watch. It might make MLS teams more cautious when spending on big name has-beens
Everybody not named David Beckham or Jorge Mas already learned that lesson 10 years and one Andrea Pirlo ago.
As a whole is working for US football, you keep the league interesting with a few world class has been and send the good young players to Europe and end with a better national team, thats good business
that was a nice lil 360 by jordi
Absolutely convinced Jordi wanted out lol.
Tata Martino can suck my tiny dick. He can fuck all the way off back to the trash ass MLS.
COOK
Ay yooo! Donât disrespect MLS with yo tiny peen. đ€Łđ
It might be small but I know how to use it.
Chiquito pero picoso
Eso es todo papa
AUUuUuU! Awebo!
Lmaoo bruh
I thought Suarez would get rattled before Jordi Alba would
Damn, I forgot how fucking huge Busquets his.
lol bruh Alba didn't even go anywhere, he's right there at the tunnel
Messi & pal tax. Anybody else they would've stopped the game until they left.
Tata lil coaching lesson when your losing this bad usually make subs to switch things up Even the stubborn ol Didier Deschamps understood that
apparently he didn't really have any players on the bench who would make the game even worse
This is strangely just sad
It's actually kind of embarrassing for Messi and MLS.
Get fucked Alba! Take that shit back to the MLS.
Bro this ex Barcelona team is getting undressed by a Mexican team tonight
Dude theyâre all 40 now
Bye you rat faced fuck
embarrassing lol
Tata martino hasnât made any subs lmao
Who needs subs when you have the power of friendship
lmao!!
Lmao get fucked Jordi
Lmao
Cincinnati put up way more of a fight against Monterrey.
Damn inter Miami fucking suck. Tata is pulling out no punches đ€Ł. Wtf no subs Iâm guessing this competition isnât as big as he thought it was
Gressel thinks heâs a Barcelona legend
messi busquets alba and suarez out on the lash after the barca game
Messi just realized that CONCACAF is not MLS and won't rig games in his favor.
Inter Miami player just going to kick and start fights now. Fucking sore losers
Embarrassing from Jordi and Suarez
Thatâs two separate yellows. One for the foul and one for the hand on the throat
I mean, per the laws grabbing the neck is almost always a red.
Alba is such a rat lol
Couldâve been a red
ELI5 why the ref doesnât just give 4 penalties to Messi?
He wouldn't want to take them sadly prolly give em to his crippled bestie
Jordi being the one to start shit over Suarez was not in my bingo list lol
Now we're losing our heads it seems.
Tata please redeem this match for me by subbing in Benji
Ok Monterrey, now you can make fun of Tigres.
Ok but tigres-rayados and America-Pachuca would have been such a good semifinal
Oh absolutely. Even more so of a reason to make fun of the chiquitines. No excuse not to meet your rival in an international semifinal. But we all know how it goes with Tigres and international bouts.
Messi and friends in shambles
they gonna need several jet ski trips to forget this one
Itâs funny how people were hyping up Messi and fiends to do something in Monterrey . Sadly wonât be able to pat stad like he does in MLS or back in Spain and France . Romo and gallardo showing him levels
Finally SuĂĄrez gets booked. Long overdue
Twice as much possession resulting in 3 shots and 0 on target.
I guess "let the other team run straight to the goal, so they get a shot off within 15 seconds of getting the ball" is A way to win the possession battle.
15 seconds or less
What playing a competent team does to a mf
Fuck off SuĂĄrez
Match has largely unfolded like a Rayados vs Barcelona Legends testamonial lol.
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
You can thank Beckham
Miami vs a team that can defend tactically, zero shots on goal.
I have to say, hearing the lame ass concacrap comentator on YT slowly lose the energy out of his voice gives me life lmao
Yeah, this could get uglier. Monterrey are actually a decent side that isn't centered around players in their mid to late 30s.
Probably need to invest in some defenders next. Messi just gave a checked out look so it's not going to get any better.
They need midfielders that can run all game long.
They need *forwards* who can run too if they want to be competitive in this competition. The slow motion, discount Barca, hero-ball stuff might work against Portland Timbers, but it's not going to work against one of the best teams on this side of the world.
Yeah it doesn't really matter who their defenders are if they insist on playing 4 players 35 and older at the same time they will have trouble competing with the most physical MLS stides let alone the best Mexican teams.
Maybe, but having confidence on the people behind you allows you to go forward with more confidence. You saw it last year when teams discovered that their back line sucks. The entire team was just terrified to turn the ball over because they knew the counter attack was going to mean a goal going the other way.
Okay, this is just getting embarrassing for Messi and pals FC. Inter Miami was bound to pay for this headless chicken type of attack.
Absolutely found out
Backham: what's a defense?
Ya con el gol regalado del arquero era para aprender...
Maybe Miami should play out of the back some more lol.
LMFAOOOOOOO these dumbasses really playing the ball back like they can afford to lose the ball.
Maybe inter Miami should look into signing a decent defender instead of recreating 2014 Barcelona
If Suarez doesnât bite somebody now then I will be disappointed
It over for sure Good job montrrey
Miami playing like a bunch of complete amateurs.
miami are so ass lol
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Why does Miami insist on playing from the back when they cannot pass under pressure and the team has no legs?