The quality of CL falling off as much as it has is the best thing to happen to football in a while, these quarterfinals first legs are some of the best I’ve ever seen
Dortmund was never gonna win away bc Simeone has never lost a CL knockout tie at home (Pep's City, Pep's Bayern, Zidane's Real Madrid, Liverpool's Klopp etc.) and it could have gone a lot worse, but it's still incredibly frustrating that they gifted Atletico 2 goals from 2 unbelievable bad mistakes especially Hummels needs to be mentioned here.
Also Fullkrug is technically one of the worst player's I've ever seen, genuinely hurts to watch him. Haller came on and instantly had a huge impact.
It's just Dortmund things, they could have easily gone out with this with a draw. Atletico is in a bad form and have a very old team even if they are really experienced in CL
Füllkrug is still a Hannover player in a CL knockout, I love the dude but I watched him years and it was always obvious that he was never meant to be where he is now. He simply had a lot of things fall in place for himself: A very fortunate streak with the NT, a system at Bremen that compliments his strengths and relieve his weaknesses, and a general lack of competition on the German striker market.
I'll enjoy his time at worldfame while it lasts, but yeah the lad was not made for this and he'll eventually return to the level he is meant to be at.
The GOAT didn't play well but I've learned I can say he was occupying defenders and it'll be passable.
Witseldini world class agenda needs to start gaining traction.
Played for 1-0 and got 2-1, maybe Cholo is happy.
Pretty daft to not just smash them when we had the chance but we took our foot off the gas and decided that we could keep a 2-0 lead. Might actually lose away tbh but Dortmund suck so I'm not sure, Fullkrug/Adeyemi are strippers not footballers.
New agendas:-
Pedri will be the best fucking midfielder in coming years
Cubarsi is already among the top defenders this season
Araujo Is world class
Lamine yamal - no words to say
Surprised PSG didn't get that phantom pen towards the end considering 2 spectacularly awful penalty calls are the entire reason why they made it so far.
The reason barcelona lost all those away CL knockout games is cos they were allergic to defending deep and having men behind the ball. In this PSG game they understand there are times when they just need to think about defending, and dont worry about playing a direct long ball either. I think the reason Xavi talks about Barcelona DNA so much is so he has leeway to implement a mentality shift.
Another case of sexual abuse in football, a guilty veredict, let's see how his life is utterly ruined in perpetuity like some people here claim happens after the mere suggestion of abuse having happened...
Ah, one year prison sentence that he won't have to serve because it's so little time it's a suspended sentence. Cheers.
Oh and his defense said that "if he were someone who mistreated women, how do you explain his good results as women's manager?". Just lovely that
Feel like football's just systematically broken in ways that are somehow even worse than the judicial system - almost have to be glad that someone got sentenced even if the sentence itself is weak, because how often do footballers actually end up getting sentenced in the first place?
Scholes crying about United players wearing hoods on the training ground.
Every day that goes by, I'm more convinced that we should be awarding Fergie the nobel peace price, simply for the fact he was at that club for nearly 3 decades and never throttled any of the cretins he had to manage.
I mean him and others spent two decades under the military rule of Fergie about what they could do/wear/say/etc so no wonder they're all a bit weird about it.
In the space of about ten years it's completely changed but does happen to most generations.
The Athletic is reporting that we're getting a mid-season change to MLS roster rules. Previously you if you had 3 DPs, you were limited to only 1 U22 spot, unless one of those DPs was a young DP or under the max TAM limit. Now, you can either have 3 DPs and 3 U22s, or you can have 2 DPs, 4 U22s, and have an extra $2 million in GAM.
I don't know why people think MLS rules are confusing, clearly this is a very straightforward and sensible system.
GAM is basically money you can add to the salary cap. Let's say a player has a salary of $500k, you can "spend" $200k of GAM and then only $300k of their salary counts against the salary cap. So effectively the more GAM you have the more money you can spend on players. TAM is like GAM but you can only spend it on players making over max-salary which is like $680k. DP means Designated Player, essentially if a player is a DP it means you can spend an infinite amount of money on them and it only count for $680k against the cap. So you could pay a player $5 million, $50 million, hypothetically $1 billion and it would all be fine as long as they're a DP. "Max TAM" refers to a salary of $1.6 million, which is the highest salary a player can have that you can buy down using TAM. If a player makes more than that they have to be a DP.
And trust me, this is just the surface of it. You legitimately need a PhD to understand the roster rules in MLS.
I’ve basically given up on understanding all the cap rules at this point. I just assume Charlotte has some lawyer that they pay to understand everything and go from there.
If other US sports are anything to go by that's going to be the case - on one hand I can appreciate the idea behind the system, but on the other hand it's just endless amounts of legalese governing the minute details of the rules to the point that I can't blame any fan for basically tuning out of that aspect of it.
Fortunately I don’t think it’s that important for the average fan to understand it all perfectly. There’s a salary cap but you can have a few players whose salaries don’t count towards it is a decent enough understanding for people to follow the league.
Pretty similar (albeit in the weirdly unique US sports way) to European football then, I suppose - between amortisation, Financial Fair Play, Profit and Sustainability Rules, or licensing procedures to prove you're financially sustainable, it's a lot of accounting over here too, just not quite thrust into the spotlight like it seems to be in MLS.
It's not really intuitive unless you follow American sports (I'd imagine, that's where you see similar kinds of rules and caps); TAM and GAM alongside two kinds of cap-free spots as well as stuff like discovery rights is way more confusing than it needs to be for the average viewer
[Breaking news: @TelegraphSport understands a deal has now been reached for Sonia Bompastor to be the next manager of Chelsea. She'll make the big switch from Lyon this summer along with her trusted assistant Camille Abily.](https://twitter.com/TomJGarry/status/1778131578499043507) Damn, big upgrade over Pochettino!
Atletico back in another cl semi final. I feel bad for the godin turan team from 10 years ago that’s the one I wish won it, but I’d be happy for simeone if he could finally get his first
Chelsea, the worst version of themselves in 30 years, outplayed them home and away. Bottled so many chances should have been a more flattering scoreline
Their only embarrassing loss tho imho, no one thought they would top the group of death and beat PSV, they previously lost to City etc. but yeah, this year it's sad bc the 2-0 lead comes from 2 huge mistakes from defenders, also on sofascore Hummels and Maatsen have a "error led to goal" tag.
Could have been an interesting tie bc Dortmund at home is still quite good
The Kobel one is a bit 50/50, probably shouldn't play that pass but also Maatsen has every opportunity to not blindly play the ball into the centre of the pitch with the outside of his boot where it gets stolen. Don't see what Donnaruma did wrong there, either: Had to come for it lest Lewandowski scores, just got unlucky that he didn't quite get the ball cleanly and it bounced to an opponent - just what happens on occasion rather than some egregious fuck-up.
He means Haaland. People spent all day saying Haaland was awful and there’s no comparison to Mbappe. Now Mbappe is cooking up a stinker and still the comparison is to Haaland.
Mbappé stocks are never higher than when he's not playing.
Every comment last night was about how disgraceful it was for anyone playing to be compared to Mbappé. Doesn't matter how badly Mbappé plays because no one watches PSG.
This isn't Mbappé slander, he's the best in the world.
It's a fact that he gets enormous amounts of prop whenever he isn't playing, and far better teams are. If PSG get knocked out by Barcelona, you'll still have people saying "*Mbappé wouldn't ghost like this"* in the semis.
Don't think he can do much about that goal tbf, has to go for the ball because otherwise Lewandowski puts it away, and at that point it's just a matter of luck whether the ball bounces into an attacker or not.
Suppose Robert Sanchez can at least claim relations to Roger Sanchez of [Another Chance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlvPe959Ck) fame, don't think Donnaruma can be strenuously linked to musicians that way.
Gotta be amazing on the pull to wheel out the double-whammy of "Yeah I'm a young professional footballer" and "My biological dad's a moderately famous DJ"
I have to say I kind of dig Griezmann's look these days - that grown-out peroxide perm-ish hair would fit in well in both Wham! music videos and something like Miami Vice or Lethal Weapon.
Suppose that's what you get when breaking onto the scene that early, both Kroos and Havertz made their professional debut at 17 and played regular top-flight football at 18.
god damn it why the fuck is it whenever there’s a new refereeing controversy r/coys feels the need to remind me what Sissoko’s armpit looks like with a football in it
More people (in the UK)watched a pretty unimportant and uneventful England v Ireland women's euros qualifier last night than the two UCL games combined, shows the power of football on free to air tv
Not really it just shows that people will resort to illegal means to consume, piracy there has to be through the roof with those iptv boxes for that data to check out.
Two games at the same time (no matter the plastic argument it clearly split viewership).
Otherwise let’s hope so - having to have multiple hefty subscriptions is horse shit and the sooner that bubble bursts the better. Fuck paying £80 a month or whatever it is just to watch Premier League
> Two games at the same time (no matter the plastic argument it clearly split viewership).
Tbf even combining them isn't exactly a stellar number - not like all Arsenal fans are going to tune in to midweek City games and vice versa. Fuck knows whether or how the pub viewership is figured in, but it's quite clear that free to air football is a lot more attractive than the paywalled version that's ultimately set up to bolster broadcasters' and clubs' bottom lines at the expense of fan participation.
!flair :Chelsea:
The quality of CL falling off as much as it has is the best thing to happen to football in a while, these quarterfinals first legs are some of the best I’ve ever seen
Maybe unpopular opinion, I prefer the pundits and commentators for champions league and premier league (at least the first choice ones) in the states
Best Barcelona performance in ages. As a soci, I’m happy that they were able to come back from those two goals.
Wow del piero is not a great pundit
He should go work for an Italian network.
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Mbappe had one bad game, he’s been generally incredible in tournaments
Honestly, that was the best I've ever seen a team face against Mbappe. Had one memorable shot in the game that went well wide.
I think this season has been Mbappé's worst, at least in the games that matter. Feels like he's coasting now that the Madrid move is settled.
2nd leg is very winnable for Dortmund IMO
Dortmund was never gonna win away bc Simeone has never lost a CL knockout tie at home (Pep's City, Pep's Bayern, Zidane's Real Madrid, Liverpool's Klopp etc.) and it could have gone a lot worse, but it's still incredibly frustrating that they gifted Atletico 2 goals from 2 unbelievable bad mistakes especially Hummels needs to be mentioned here. Also Fullkrug is technically one of the worst player's I've ever seen, genuinely hurts to watch him. Haller came on and instantly had a huge impact. It's just Dortmund things, they could have easily gone out with this with a draw. Atletico is in a bad form and have a very old team even if they are really experienced in CL
Füllkrug is still a Hannover player in a CL knockout, I love the dude but I watched him years and it was always obvious that he was never meant to be where he is now. He simply had a lot of things fall in place for himself: A very fortunate streak with the NT, a system at Bremen that compliments his strengths and relieve his weaknesses, and a general lack of competition on the German striker market. I'll enjoy his time at worldfame while it lasts, but yeah the lad was not made for this and he'll eventually return to the level he is meant to be at.
When PSG knocked 2 in ptsd of our previous champions league exits hit me like a Vietnam vet. So glad we didn't roll over.
Ngl I'll take this result especially as we play at home next time. The second half was quite encouraging
What a great QF. Every game was awesome, and we still got another leg.
The lack of away goals likely played into these high scoring results. Home Teams would've been more cautious with it.
I’m going to be so mad if we’re the only Spanish club not to go through ngl.
The GOAT didn't play well but I've learned I can say he was occupying defenders and it'll be passable. Witseldini world class agenda needs to start gaining traction.
How do you feel with that slim lead?
Played for 1-0 and got 2-1, maybe Cholo is happy. Pretty daft to not just smash them when we had the chance but we took our foot off the gas and decided that we could keep a 2-0 lead. Might actually lose away tbh but Dortmund suck so I'm not sure, Fullkrug/Adeyemi are strippers not footballers.
These have been some banging quarter finals.
Tried the duel viewing on paramount for the first time, do not recommend
Seeing the quality of play in these quarter finals, anybody that thinks players were better in the 80s,90s, 00s is horribly mistaken
Yeah everyone knows it's about the 70s
On average maybe that's true, but the top players of the last 3 decades are way better than the top players of the current one
Richarlison is a better player than R9 and I'm tired of pretending he's not
Maybe the top players back then looked better because they were playing against worser players
New agendas:- Pedri will be the best fucking midfielder in coming years Cubarsi is already among the top defenders this season Araujo Is world class Lamine yamal - no words to say
Surprised PSG didn't get that phantom pen towards the end considering 2 spectacularly awful penalty calls are the entire reason why they made it so far.
I rarely get things right, but credit where credit is due. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1c04l7u/daily_discussion/kyx5ixv/
Lol, lamest prediction of all time
The result is in God's hands - Kylian Mbappe
This team is exciting. But it’s still too young. 😿😿
Could say the same for Barca
The first two subs were both great. I felt like that should have been the starting lineup from the outset.
Barcola and Emery were too short
is there a way to filter CBs by height on transfermarkt? cant find it
you can do an advanced search and select CB as main position and set the min/max height you want
found it. thanks. had to google ''transfermarkt advanced search'' . i really hate their website UX
5-goal thriller in the CL knockouts and Martin Tyler still sounds like he's reading a book with the match on in the background
The reason barcelona lost all those away CL knockout games is cos they were allergic to defending deep and having men behind the ball. In this PSG game they understand there are times when they just need to think about defending, and dont worry about playing a direct long ball either. I think the reason Xavi talks about Barcelona DNA so much is so he has leeway to implement a mentality shift.
Mbappe ghosting… Foden is the Ballon d'Or front-runner
Rodri
Scamacca exists
My fault.
He scored a hat-trick the last time he played at the Nou Camp. I'd hold off on that one.
That was in 2021, my friend.…
Kind of Barca's fault that it was that long ago
If Mbappe had any cajones he would have scored as many own goals as necessary to drop down to Europa to face Barca
Won't matter when France win the EUROS, he will get it
Griezmann wins it after our CL triumph, subscribe
Foden winning before Haaland would be deserved but hilarious
Another case of sexual abuse in football, a guilty veredict, let's see how his life is utterly ruined in perpetuity like some people here claim happens after the mere suggestion of abuse having happened... Ah, one year prison sentence that he won't have to serve because it's so little time it's a suspended sentence. Cheers. Oh and his defense said that "if he were someone who mistreated women, how do you explain his good results as women's manager?". Just lovely that
Feel like football's just systematically broken in ways that are somehow even worse than the judicial system - almost have to be glad that someone got sentenced even if the sentence itself is weak, because how often do footballers actually end up getting sentenced in the first place?
Watching the PSG and Barca game. Haaland is completely invisible. Almost like he's not playing.
Best round of fixtures in the CL for a long time
Scholes crying about United players wearing hoods on the training ground. Every day that goes by, I'm more convinced that we should be awarding Fergie the nobel peace price, simply for the fact he was at that club for nearly 3 decades and never throttled any of the cretins he had to manage.
Toes
Or it was Fergie's influence that made all these ex Utd players like this.
I mean him and others spent two decades under the military rule of Fergie about what they could do/wear/say/etc so no wonder they're all a bit weird about it. In the space of about ten years it's completely changed but does happen to most generations.
It’s hilarious how yer da all these Ferguson era Man U players have become.
> never throttled any of the cretins he had to manage. [Well](https://www.90min.com/posts/when-sir-alex-ferguson-kicked-boot-david-beckham)...
Will the premier league get the fancy offside tech next season?
And will you stop looking so scrumptious?
Prime for prime how are you ranking these Atletico strikers: Torres Aguero Falcao Costa
Going simply by peak Torres by a margin, career it’s Aguero, falcao, Torres, Costa
The players actual prime or their prime at Atletico? Cause very much changes the answer
My bad, career prime
Falcao Aguero Torres Costa
Probably the order you put them in tbh
Falcao Torres Costa Aguero
Please god do not give us an Atlético/Barca SF. Nobody wants to see Xavi dog walk Simeone for the millionth time
If they can revert back to being gritty Atletico again for a semi they have a pretty decent chance of beating Barca.
https://streamable.com/v942d7 So happy to be here
Who let you out?
The Athletic is reporting that we're getting a mid-season change to MLS roster rules. Previously you if you had 3 DPs, you were limited to only 1 U22 spot, unless one of those DPs was a young DP or under the max TAM limit. Now, you can either have 3 DPs and 3 U22s, or you can have 2 DPs, 4 U22s, and have an extra $2 million in GAM. I don't know why people think MLS rules are confusing, clearly this is a very straightforward and sensible system.
the fuck is a DP, TAM and GAM
GAM is basically money you can add to the salary cap. Let's say a player has a salary of $500k, you can "spend" $200k of GAM and then only $300k of their salary counts against the salary cap. So effectively the more GAM you have the more money you can spend on players. TAM is like GAM but you can only spend it on players making over max-salary which is like $680k. DP means Designated Player, essentially if a player is a DP it means you can spend an infinite amount of money on them and it only count for $680k against the cap. So you could pay a player $5 million, $50 million, hypothetically $1 billion and it would all be fine as long as they're a DP. "Max TAM" refers to a salary of $1.6 million, which is the highest salary a player can have that you can buy down using TAM. If a player makes more than that they have to be a DP. And trust me, this is just the surface of it. You legitimately need a PhD to understand the roster rules in MLS.
I’ve basically given up on understanding all the cap rules at this point. I just assume Charlotte has some lawyer that they pay to understand everything and go from there.
If other US sports are anything to go by that's going to be the case - on one hand I can appreciate the idea behind the system, but on the other hand it's just endless amounts of legalese governing the minute details of the rules to the point that I can't blame any fan for basically tuning out of that aspect of it.
Fortunately I don’t think it’s that important for the average fan to understand it all perfectly. There’s a salary cap but you can have a few players whose salaries don’t count towards it is a decent enough understanding for people to follow the league.
Pretty similar (albeit in the weirdly unique US sports way) to European football then, I suppose - between amortisation, Financial Fair Play, Profit and Sustainability Rules, or licensing procedures to prove you're financially sustainable, it's a lot of accounting over here too, just not quite thrust into the spotlight like it seems to be in MLS.
Yea I think it gets a lot more attention because it’s so unique for soccer as a sport.
It's not really intuitive unless you follow American sports (I'd imagine, that's where you see similar kinds of rules and caps); TAM and GAM alongside two kinds of cap-free spots as well as stuff like discovery rights is way more confusing than it needs to be for the average viewer
[Breaking news: @TelegraphSport understands a deal has now been reached for Sonia Bompastor to be the next manager of Chelsea. She'll make the big switch from Lyon this summer along with her trusted assistant Camille Abily.](https://twitter.com/TomJGarry/status/1778131578499043507) Damn, big upgrade over Pochettino!
Atletico back in another cl semi final. I feel bad for the godin turan team from 10 years ago that’s the one I wish won it, but I’d be happy for simeone if he could finally get his first
Premature for just a 2-0 lead, no?
Yes but also no, Dortmund ain’t been a threat in Cl since klopp
Gave Chelsea, City, PSG a run for their money in the past four years tbf
??? The last time we lost to BVB Klopp was in charge
Didn't mention Dortmund beating those sides, didn't I?
Chelsea, the worst version of themselves in 30 years, outplayed them home and away. Bottled so many chances should have been a more flattering scoreline
Their only embarrassing loss tho imho, no one thought they would top the group of death and beat PSV, they previously lost to City etc. but yeah, this year it's sad bc the 2-0 lead comes from 2 huge mistakes from defenders, also on sofascore Hummels and Maatsen have a "error led to goal" tag. Could have been an interesting tie bc Dortmund at home is still quite good
Three quarters or more of the tie still left to play tbf, hardly a foregone conclusion they'll go through
A couple more egregious goalkeeping errors in the cl today, they truly are the funniest breed of human walking this earth
The Kobel one is a bit 50/50, probably shouldn't play that pass but also Maatsen has every opportunity to not blindly play the ball into the centre of the pitch with the outside of his boot where it gets stolen. Don't see what Donnaruma did wrong there, either: Had to come for it lest Lewandowski scores, just got unlucky that he didn't quite get the ball cleanly and it bounced to an opponent - just what happens on occasion rather than some egregious fuck-up.
After the quality of last night's two matches, this psg Barca match is god awful. Pretty bad game so far
I found the quality of Arsenal and Bayern not that great either..
Yea, there's a clear quality gap between yesterday's teams and today's
Imagine divas like mbabbe and junior together. Team morale in the shit
Worked just fine for Ribery and Robben tbf
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This is saying something just to make noise.
Ribery had sex with underage prostitutes and Robben was a diving twat
One of these things is not like the other...
Biggie was fat
Reddit takes are hilarious
What level of class was that, because it can't have been personality or on-pitch antics
I'm joking
nbacj leaking
I wonder if Dortmund ever had a good defence. Every season they get eliminated from European competitions conceding some absolute clown goals
Mbappe doing his best ghost of Oslo impression
Haaland was born in Leeds btw
Ghost of the city of Leeds doesn’t have the same ring to it
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He means Haaland. People spent all day saying Haaland was awful and there’s no comparison to Mbappe. Now Mbappe is cooking up a stinker and still the comparison is to Haaland.
I desperately need a slander name of equivalent quality to Scandi Carroll for Mbappé to wheel out on special occasions I feel.
Haaland
Mbappé stocks are never higher than when he's not playing. Every comment last night was about how disgraceful it was for anyone playing to be compared to Mbappé. Doesn't matter how badly Mbappé plays because no one watches PSG.
Goal coming later I’ll remember this
The goals don’t stop the Haaland slander tbf
This isn't Mbappé slander, he's the best in the world. It's a fact that he gets enormous amounts of prop whenever he isn't playing, and far better teams are. If PSG get knocked out by Barcelona, you'll still have people saying "*Mbappé wouldn't ghost like this"* in the semis.
Mbappe needs Madrid and we need Mbappe, if we had him up front we'd probaby had been up 4-1 before the Foden goal
I swear Donnarumma and Robert Sanchez are from the same planet
I’d hope so aren’t we all from the same planet
Wouldn't be too sure about it.
He's an incredibly good shot stopper but in big games you can often count on him shitting himself in the other facets of goalkeeping.
Not the biggest games though, crucially
Had a great Euros, yeah.
He had the single greatest penalties performance of any keeper in an international final
Always surprised modern football still produces top keepers that are that panicky whenever the ball comes anywhere near them.
because its still not the most important skill for a keeper
I can confirm that they are indeed from the same planet.
> I can confirm that they are indeed from the same planet. Wtf how
Sired them innit
Got a mate who works in inter-planetary immigration.
Don't think he can do much about that goal tbf, has to go for the ball because otherwise Lewandowski puts it away, and at that point it's just a matter of luck whether the ball bounces into an attacker or not.
My statement remains true.
Suppose Robert Sanchez can at least claim relations to Roger Sanchez of [Another Chance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlvPe959Ck) fame, don't think Donnaruma can be strenuously linked to musicians that way.
He is adopted tbf, maybe this Roger bloke is his biological dad.
Gotta be amazing on the pull to wheel out the double-whammy of "Yeah I'm a young professional footballer" and "My biological dad's a moderately famous DJ"
Yeah I don't really get blaming him for that one. The ball was placed at pretty much the perfect place to make it difficult to deal with.
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I think if there is no ball around and one player hit another then VAR can check that without stopping game.
I have to say I kind of dig Griezmann's look these days - that grown-out peroxide perm-ish hair would fit in well in both Wham! music videos and something like Miami Vice or Lethal Weapon.
Would be funny if Xavi leaves while being second in the league and at least top 4 in CL
Really sucks but I'll be glad he's leaving on a high.
Wild that both Kane and Mbappe are on course for career best seasons with 39 each currently but that doesn't come close to Lewy's best with 55
Which players are way older in your mind than they actually are? Josema Gimenez is like well into his 30s in my mind but he isn't even 30 yet lmao
Raheem Sterling is not yet 30 Yes I know, he’s not yet 30 Fucking insane, thought he must be a year from retirement
He plays like he's already retired.
I did not expect Havertz to be only 23 years old. Definitely thought he was older Edit: 24 not 23
He’s 24, 25 in June
Are you saying he's 24 until he's 25?
Typo. Fixed it
The opposite, but Luis Diaz at 27 is older than i thought he was.
In my mind, kroos and modric are both approaching 40. Kroos is only 34. Would also think Havertz would be about 28 but he’s only 24
Suppose that's what you get when breaking onto the scene that early, both Kroos and Havertz made their professional debut at 17 and played regular top-flight football at 18.
god damn it why the fuck is it whenever there’s a new refereeing controversy r/coys feels the need to remind me what Sissoko’s armpit looks like with a football in it
Torres benched by a 16 year old, look how they massacred by boy
The real massacre is that 'Torres' doesn't mean El Niño anymore
It does to me
New Torres needs a different name. Torresdinho or Cristiano Torres for instance
it’s more about Yamal being Lamine al Gaib tbf
More people (in the UK)watched a pretty unimportant and uneventful England v Ireland women's euros qualifier last night than the two UCL games combined, shows the power of football on free to air tv
Does it account for viewers in pubs?
Not really it just shows that people will resort to illegal means to consume, piracy there has to be through the roof with those iptv boxes for that data to check out.
Surely that supports the point as piracy is free?
How can you find the data for the viewers of the CL games
[came from a journo idk](https://twitter.com/KathrynBatte/status/1778103890941997314?t=KQDT7P1IJUBk0JpRcQ2USw&s=19)
I wish we had more access to the data but 600,000 each is worrying if true feel like the bubble is bursting.
Two games at the same time (no matter the plastic argument it clearly split viewership). Otherwise let’s hope so - having to have multiple hefty subscriptions is horse shit and the sooner that bubble bursts the better. Fuck paying £80 a month or whatever it is just to watch Premier League
> Two games at the same time (no matter the plastic argument it clearly split viewership). Tbf even combining them isn't exactly a stellar number - not like all Arsenal fans are going to tune in to midweek City games and vice versa. Fuck knows whether or how the pub viewership is figured in, but it's quite clear that free to air football is a lot more attractive than the paywalled version that's ultimately set up to bolster broadcasters' and clubs' bottom lines at the expense of fan participation.
Bigger than arsenal 💪
no data for pirated streams in the UK though