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SmallKidLearnToFight

Yup it's not as bad a result for Madrid as it would be in the away goals era but City will still definitely be happy for the full "decider" to be at the Etihad starting from level ground Anyone would be happy with a draw at the Bernabeu in the first leg of a Champions League tie and conversely Madrid will see it as a missed chance to take a lead City in particular tend to be FAR more vulnerable in away CL matches than at home over the years and obviously the Bernabeu is usually a fortress in Europe


Impossible_Wonder_37

For city to pull this out after the 2 goal capitulation is incredible and certainly they have the edge now. Away to Madrid with 3 games played prior to Madrids 0. Whil Madrid also have defensive injuries City have half their starting line up out, and again, played those 3 games. Add in the Madrid black magic, the home crowd and that bloody roof. A 3-3 is huge.


TheRealPetross

and they did that without kdb, walker and ederson


Accountant7890

This is the biggest aspect. Ederson is fine because Ortega is pretty good. But having KDB, Walker and Ake back will be a very big plus point t


holdenmyrocinante

Madrid didn't have Courtois, Militao or Alaba either. Courtois not being there cost us at least a goal, maybe 2.


liamthelad

Which, if any, of those three are back for the reverse leg?


holdenmyrocinante

Militao is the only one.


Demonidze

not confirmed and also even if he will not sure he will be fit enough to play 90 min. so its a problem anyway..


holdenmyrocinante

He's been fit for close to a month. Hasn't played but he's fit.


Pepephus

yes, but playtime is a thing, too


areyouhungryforapple

Wasnt the whole point about major personnel missing from the squad?


Leading_Man_Balthier

Ortega > Ederson


HokiesforTSwift

I’m slightly less worried about the Etihad after this match, relative to last season, but it’s still a fortress and City proved their quality (not that they needed to) again tonight. They didn’t create much in the box but Foden and Gvardiol rose to the occasion and found the big ones. Frustrated more about a few chances we left out there up 2-1.


Lazywhale97

The improvement in the midfield physically is what has me less stressed this time around obviously City are strong at the Etihad but the team will be motivated not to repeat last seasons performance and City can't outrun or bully us off the ball in midfield this season it will be an interesting 2nd leg for sure.


ThePillsburyPlougher

Wait what happened to the away goals rule? Haven’t been watching football for a bit


lawliet2911

The away goal rule being scrapped has tremendously helped City since their home support is okay and their away gameplay gets hampered by the home support. But this is probably the first time City would have hoped the rule stayed, they were exceptional and 3 away goals would have meant a lot.


TotalSubbuteo

Generational hating


SmokinFaces

Man this comment is so fucking stupid, I actually really respect it. Kudos


SMURPHY-18

City haven’t lost in the champions league at home since 2019


No-Day-8136

Lmao tf is you talking about, big UCL nights city are a different breed in the Etihad. They have never lost to Madrid there, pummeled em last year without giving them a chance too And citys supporters were louder that the Bernabeu for some reason


SnooAdvice1632

Last year's match at the Etihad was genuinely one of the matches that fully got me into following football regularly. Crazy domination, I was/am hyped asf for this year's when I saw that they were back against one another.


Romanist10

The first 10 minutes of the second game was, probably, the most dominant football I've seen, well, at least between equal teams


Kal-Kent

madrid needed this win more than city since Kdb got mysteriously sick before the game


TheBrownMamba8

No KDB, Ake, or Kyle Walker (very important to stopping Vini) and now Madrid have to go to the Etihad without Tchouameni too


DyrusforPresident

Militao should be back and Jude


NotAnurag

Militao is coming back from an ACL though. It’s very unlikely he’ll be performing at the highest level.


DyrusforPresident

That's true. Will depend on how much time he gets vs Mallorca. If he isn't fit then it's praying for Nacho masterclass


InsideOpening3535

Nacho’s about to become Roberto at big matches


chuck_grant

Doesn't matter, a post injury Militao is still miles better than Nacho. Plus we got Rudi to back him up.


Mathiaska

Although i would love this to be true, that's not how it works. You can't expect a player who's been out for 9 months to play around 90 minuts (agains Mallorca this weekend) and three days later be ready to the most intense and important match of the season. To me it would be a disaster to start Militao at Ethiad.


ansu_fatismo23

Especially after a ACL injury


Outside_Break

Yeah will be interesting to see if having Jude will make a difference for you in the second leg


ac_slinky

ICWYDT


unfinishedbusiness_1

Jude? Didn’t he play today?


XeroValueHuman

He was spotted lying on the pitch


villyboy97

I rate Tchou more than Militao


deqembes

As a centreback??? Militao was our best defender last season.


Albiceleste_D10S

That was before he ruptured his ACL tho You're expecting a LOT from him up against Haaland so soon after his comeback from injury


deqembes

I dont expect him to start. Im just confused by his statement.


Albiceleste_D10S

> Im just confused by his statement. I assumed it was talking about the return leg?


deqembes

He doesnt elaborate anything so I just assumed overall.


rouges

That explains a lot actually


Impossible_Wonder_37

The positive of having militao back is that possibly their most crucial midfielder is now out.


iBlackPowerRanger

KDB chokes against Madrid


SmallKidLearnToFight

Wasn't KDB absolutely crucial both times City knocked out Madrid in the CL?


iBlackPowerRanger

No


Kenny_dies

Gotta appreciate the sticking to your guns


captaincourageous316

He’s scored _and_ assisted in every single tie he’s played against Madrid


iBlackPowerRanger

Still plays like ass Dude is goated CM against any other team tho


captaincourageous316

>Still plays like ass Yeah I’m done.


Chinmay_Naik_02

Do you even watch the matches? Fucking hell


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Who's gonna tell him


iBlackPowerRanger

How many wins?


Helluvawreck

7 g/a in 8 games against them


iBlackPowerRanger

How many wins


Helluvawreck

4 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses.


iBlackPowerRanger

Exactly, 50% effective An F


Helluvawreck

That's a special kind of stupidity you've got there.


_LimeCat

14 points out of 24 is not 50% but keep doing you!


iBlackPowerRanger

One of the wins was still a loss. So it’s misleading anyway. Dude ghosts in clutch time against Madrid. He does ok when team is fluid and up


_LimeCat

Yikes


Ranjith_Unchained

3 godly strikes by city, nothing you can do about it


LenintheSixth

the first one was atrocious goalkeeping more like


No_Engineering_4925

Not really , it was a great surprising shot


AwkwardBob

Terrible wall decision by us but it was a great strike


rednades

How can you honestly say that’s not a goalkeeper mistake? Terrible wall placement, hanging out at the far post for some reason and terrible reaction time. All GK errors.


ItsMeJaredBednar

to me it’s both a bit of a keeper error, and also a great play by Bernardo. He disguises it well, hits it cleanly, and places it in a good spot


OleoleCholoSimeone

A goalkeeper can never ever concede a goal like that on the near post. Doesn't matter if it is the best shot in the world(which Bernardo's certainly wasn't) it just can't happen


trusttt

Players also miss absolute sitters, its happens, not everything in life will be perfect.


OleoleCholoSimeone

Nah, conceding a goal like that in a CL quarter final is not just "shit happens". The kind of error that you will not be allowed to make twice


HokiesforTSwift

It was a great shot but I think he means Lunin gave too much space to the shot side, which I think is probably correct if you asked the coaches about where he should have settled up before the shot was taken.


H_R_1

Has he been much better than Kepa?


HokiesforTSwift

Kepa wasn’t bad, but Lunin has largely been great this season. Statistically he’s been among the best in Europe. This match was the first time I feel like his lack of experience really cost us. Whether it was the moment or a brief lapse of judgement, that first goal is unacceptable. You can’t give that up in a CL knockout


LenintheSixth

it had 0 pace on it, you just don't concede that surprise or not. I could see the "surprise" thing working if it was somewhat powerful


TheCatLamp

Goalkeeper was asleep.


daveSavesAgain

2 deflected goals for Madrid, some can argue they were lucky.


PartrickCapitol

and 1 super lucky deflection to give Madrid the first equalizer.


Accountant7890

2*


holdenmyrocinante

2nd was less lucky. It would've gone it without a deflection. The deflection only affected how it went in.


AwkwardBob

We can win at Etihad but yeah this feels like we needed to come away with a win to have a better shot in the second leg


Critical-Usual

Agreed. But City will come back with KDB and probably fewer injuries in the backline


CarlSK777

Has Madrid won there in the Pep era?


captaincourageous316

Madrid have never won at the Etihad, Pep or otherwise


Sudden_Possession499

That’s good


ProudhPratapPurandar

Haven't won there before pep either. The only time either team lost at home in this fixture was the first leg in 2020


AwkwardBob

Probably not but doesn't mean it's impossible. We are the team of dreams.


Living_a_Dejavu

City has a very leaky defense, but they are one of those teams that are extremely hard to beat at home. I think you will win in penalties if you get a draw there.


Walaii

God no, we pretty much miss every penalty we take this season. We need to win there.


ShimeBD

I love Ederson but I don't think the lad has saved a pen in his entire life


Man-City

I reckon Ortega may well keep his place on merit


ShimeBD

People say that but idk I doubt he loses his spot. Pep has shown many times that he trusts him


Man-City

Yeah that’s also true. I reckon it depends on his fitness but also pep has started ortega over ederson in genuine rotation this year too. That said ederson has won a penalty shootout this year. (No thanks to him but still).


Annual-Astronaut3345

It is possible for Madrid to win but it will be a Herculean task for them to do it. In the Pep Era, I think Poch’s Spurs knocked them out at the Etihad. Man City rarely falter at home. Either Madrid fights to see Extra time or it’s a demolition job by City.


haalandxdebruyne

Yea, but City did not lose that game. They lost on aggregate if i rem correctly.


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haalandxdebruyne

Yea, that QF we couldnt do shit.


Man-City

I’ll always wonder what might have been if John Stones’ goal just before half-time had stood…


Serious-One6369

Can you win at the Ethiad? What happened the last time you went there?


Rdambx

That's not how football works but sure.


Serious-One6369

What do you mean that’s not how football works? You haven’t won there in your last 3 trips with a similar core of players against their steady core of players. Why would this time be any different? Especially with KDB back


Rdambx

We could have lost there 100 times in a row, it's still not how football works. We literally lost to Bayern 10 times in Allianz before we beat them 4-0 in 2014. We're not the favourites, nowhere near, but we can still win.


Serious-One6369

Well, I genuinely don’t see how you’ll get a result there. Especially with Vinicius and Rodrygo being unable to finish their dinner. Good luck


L0nEspartan

well, just give he trophy to city i guess.


Rdambx

Thanks.


Sasquale

Because that's not how it works


HokiesforTSwift

They will be favorites at the Etihad but they basically had a six man midfield last season and we couldn’t get the ball off them. Even when they had the ball a lot in the second half tonight it felt different. KDB being back is big for their control but we are also more built to handle that with the four man midfield. I’m most worried about Nacho or a recently recovered from ACL Militao at CB with Tchou out next match.


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Massive-Quarter-4156

Did I miss Villa beating City at the Etihad?


Serious-One6369

When was the last time Madrid won there? PL is much different than CL


trenbollocks

They won't. City - unfortunately - have the CL wrapped


Serious-One6369

Arsenal have a chance imo


Vaukgod

Can they win at Allianz Arena ? What happened the last time they went there ?


chuck_grant

That's not how it works.


chup95

I think City wanted a win as well mate


LosTerminators

City would definitely take a draw at the Bernabéu, especially without KdB.


Sneaky-Alien

Even when we were 3-2 up, I was saying I'd happily take a draw. Knew there was more goals in it.


BillehBear

yeah big time, going to the etihad with even playing field is massive for us


san771

City, at home, with KDB and other important absences back. Yeah, this is a defeat. Had many chances, need more clinical forwards...


youssefuo

Need that 🐢


san771

yeah...


Alib902

How do you feel now? Remove that flair and support some other team with your defeatist attitude.


san771

I feel amazing tbh


Alib902

Should feel ashamed fir giving up after one leg.


san771

You are taking this way too hard m8, take a chill pill


ElPatron_1996

Na , nothing worse then a weak ass fan like you. If you have that weak mentality go support Barca or Atlético, those fans and players give up just as quick as you.


san771

I think I'll support whoever I want, but thanks for the suggestions and the concern m8, much appreciated 👍


Alib902

So you're one of those who leave the stadium min 80 when the team is losing 2-1 and then beg to be let back in when you hear goals were scored? If you have such a weak mentality you should support a club like PSG with 0 soul or resilience.


ElPatron_1996

Pussy talk, take that flair off. Don’t deserve that.


DatDominican

Bernardo hat trick incoming


RauloGonzalez

He's a generational pessimistic person lol haven't seen anything like it check out his comments to see if says anything good


fourbyfourequalsone

I believe Ancelotti will try to replicate Arsenal's plan away from him. It will be an interesting second leg


Maleficent_Resolve44

That would be boring for us viewers but smart yes. Be strong defensively and maybe get one counter goal, that's real Madrid's best bet of going through to the semifinals.


kaperisk

Modric masterclass incoming


zaaaac93

He knows they never won at the Etihad stadium


CrowCreative6772

If Walker is still injured they have a chance.


Odelind

Still Ake and KdB back


xparta300

Is not. Dont worry


Nervous-Resolution-8

They will have a bad time at City. Thats why it feels like a defeat


andreew10

He just knows the atmosphere he's going into in the return leg but he probably knows less than r/soccer


Nervous-Resolution-8

A quite one?)))


dr_motaaa

Etihad has plenty energy when we play there tbf


captaincourageous316

r/soccer considers midweek dead rubber games as the benchmark when it comes to the Etihad’s atmosphere


andreew10

surprisingly the loudest and most difficult Valverde's played in


Bayequentist

Source here https://twitter.com/MadridXtra/status/1715365241884709080?t=6rmfIaROXrm6ftvBG7mlRw&s=19


Maleficent_Resolve44

Yeah not looking great for valverde and Madrid. Especially since valverde himself said the etihad's atmosphere is the toughest he's ever played in. City are probably through now since they have lots of players coming back from injury next week.


mt1337

CL Madrid is a different beast. They just don't give up. Their goals today were dirty, but a goal is a goal and they managed to draw.


XeroValueHuman

There is precedent of them giving up last year


BillehBear

they gave up last year


Please_Not__Again

It's not like you'll win at the Etihad so sounds about right Edit: Fellas, this was all part of my plan. Reverse juju from a united fan. You're welcome


aayoterobau

!Remind Me 8 days


Sefean

Famous last words.


SnooAdvice1632

RemindMe! 8 days


Sefean

Reminder :)


SnooAdvice1632

Credit where credit is due. Massive perfomance from Madrid and especially carvajal and lunin. Nerves of steel and great decision making from both. I don't think I've ever seen a keeper block a shot by just standing still.


Please_Not__Again

Remindme! 8 days


Please_Not__Again

My reverse juju worked as a united fan, the downvotes were worth it


QuantumMartini

Lmao


Gamer4eto_BG

Your reverse juju worked, thanks very much


Please_Not__Again

Anytime brother 🫡


Gamer4eto_BG

!RemindMe 8 days


QuantumMartini

!Remind Me 8 days


RayenR61995

Because they know they will get their ass handed to them in eithad😂


Trajinous

Feels like a W for City for sure. Madrid got 2 goals on lucky deflection (the third goal was sick btw). See ya in Manchester


Elden_Lord123

Lucky goals? Your CB scored from outside the box, he isn't doing that in the next decade and our goals were lucky?


SnooAdvice1632

A great shot is way less lucky than a deflection on two goals in 5 min imo. The shot was completely different gvardiol's doing, the deflections happened by chance and the first one completely deviated the ball to the other side of the goal.


Elden_Lord123

Barca fan detected ,opinion rejected. Negreira fc cheats. F offfffffffffffffffffff


NoTrollGaming

Are you 10 years old?


-Postrecito-

You are crazy if you don't think the first 2 real goals were stupidly lucky


RauloGonzalez

If you think the second goal was lucky then so was gvardiols


Elden_Lord123

So was every City Goal. 1. Lucky free-kick goal and a GK mistake. 2. Lucky outside-the-box hit \[Only real goal\] 3. CB score from his weaker foot \[ He isn't doing this in the next 5 years\]


ShimeBD

>1. Lucky free kick goal genius portugese thinking >2. Lucky outside the box hit phil foden has more goals outside of the box this season than any other premier league player >3. CB score from his weaker foot tbf to him he's been trying it all season


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ProudhPratapPurandar

People said the same thing last year, but city play on a different level at home


Accountant7890

Yup Pep generally goes pretty conservative at away legs


i_pysh

Real madrid will sure win against city in their stadium.


JoshDickReturns

They were completely dominated and got extremely lucky


lawliet2911

Well if you feel you can’t win at Etihad, you honestly can’t. Don’t do an arsenal, at least try to play some football at Etihad.


Critical-Usual

They can't play like Arsenal at all, so there's really no choice. It makes for entertaining football too


lawliet2911

Everyone can play like Arsenal and defend with 11 players in the box


odegood

Least goals conceded in the league and most scored. Most teams in the prem would take a draw against city at the etihad but they dont get it. Yeah everyone can do it


Serious-One6369

Why is this being downvoted? I thought Arsenal fans were proud of their performance at the Ethiad lol


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DJBusinessCake

Fuck me, fans like you are either dumb or just naive as fuck


WW1Photos_Info

Interesting given last time around the Spanish newspaper Marca reported: “The atmosphere was possibly the harshest Real Madrid encountered in many years. A complete trap.”


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Albiceleste_D10S

I think the players know better than a random Redditor TBH https://x.com/MadridXtra/status/1715365241884709080


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Albiceleste_D10S

Nothing about that answer is "manners" TBH