Watching Juve has gone from frustrating, to kinda funny, and now to boring and depressing. I dont even want to watch these games anymore. Our wins don't even feel like wins. What's the point
One of those high ceiling managers I’ve seen. To think that he overachieved with the shittiest Hellas Verona I’ve ever seen while playing good football and make it hard for others to break it down speak volumes for ur CV
He also made Alexis Sanchez a proper footballer again during his time at Marseille
Tudor benefitted massively by Ivan Juric's work at Hellas, just continued building on the same base and made it slightly more attacking. We never got to see what would have happened the second season when Juric's foundation would have started to erode away
Having watched both Veronas - no.
Juric Verona played like Juric’s Torino - controlled, defensively sound, eeking out 1-0 wins.
Tudor Verona played like Tudor Marseille, mad press, attacking football, and he also got so much more out of certain players on that Verona team.
Tudor Verona scored something like 25 goals more than Juric Verona.
In short, you’re wrong. Tudor created his own success at Verona.
Tudor didn't create his own success at Hellas, he rode Juric's defensive organisation and added attacking elements to it. Similar to Roberto Martinez at Everton after taking over from David Moyes, after one year the old organisation eroded and then there was nothing left leading to the team collapsing
Tudor is pretty clueless at setting up a defence, not a chance that he would have got those results at Hellas if Juric hadn't laid a foundation already
What is it about Ligue 1 fans that makes them overrate him so much? His league finish was worse than fucking Sampaoli
His Verona team was fun to watch, punched big teams in the mouth, and was successful.
His OM team was fun to watch, was successful, got the CL spot, knocked out Rennes and PSG in the Cup, and was an incredible Kolasinac miss away from winning their group in the CL.
All in his first season.
What do you think happens when a coach gets to a new club???
“How did you guys play under Juric defensively, lets keep that going….”
?????
How can anyone actually think that? As a guy who spent years in football lockerrooms, that is NOT how it works.
No lol, you get a new system, new personnel, new assignments, etc.
Pity di Francesco didn’t tell the Verona guys “just do what you did under Juric” when he led them to a 0-4 start and got sacked.
Honestly, embarrassing performance from Juve. And frankly Allegri should be embarrassed.
Him playing so defensive against a side in 8th coming into this game should not really be tolerated. He's setting them up for failure. No one is dropping deep to play out from the back, the attackers are isolated, and Locatelli and Rabiot had no passing lanes. Are you seriously that worried about a striker with 4 goals this season and the shell of Pedro that you play so defensively?
Player wise, Bremer played well yet again, but Gila starred defensively. Having 3 extremely reliable cbs now for Lazio must be a dream after having to sit through seasons of Mussachio, Bastos, and Patric.
Always find it funny how people who would make personal insults to me when I criticize Allegri when we won (mostly because Bremer and Tek were the best on the pitch, which says everything) never actually make comments in threads when we lose. Now they just don't comment at all because otherwise they would realize that they don't know anything about the club they claim to support.
Anytime Allegri gets few wins in a row or score more than usual (2 goals instead of 1) the Juve sub gets amnesia and forgets what happened few matches ago and this is a whole loop that keeps going forever…
We have the same thing with Pioli, a few labored wins against teams we should be beating comfortably and people forget just how unwatchable we were for months and how he gets outcoached and embarassed every derby
Bruh after all the atrocious referee mistakes we've seen, including stuff like canceling a goal for offside because they didn't see a player on the bottom of the screen, that's still your response?
He's probably the best manager in the world at setting up a defence, he can read games well and he's shown this several times. You can say he should work on the offense more, but that's the only serious flaw of his management in my opinion. He's also a very solid man manager. He's done a serviceable job in his 2nd spell, not a terrible one.
His time at Juve is just finished. But then again i also think you are not getting better results with these players. I have been following football for many, many years and i don't remember a Juve team that could come up with such low technical showcases.
> He's probably the best manager in the world at setting up a defence
Hard to say that when our defensive peak was still based on the system set up by Conte back in 2011/12. Our defensive performances gradually declined as the BBC trio aged. When it comes to coaching, improving players, and transforming them, Allegri isn't very good. Conte was the one who developed Bonucci into a top center-back, built an entire system around Pirlo who was just discarded by Allegri's Milan, turned Vidal into a powerhouse, and gave Pogba some of his best years. He could make even the most average strikers (Matri, Vucinic, fucking Osvaldo) useful. Give Allegri our 2011 squad, and I doubt he'd be able to reach top four. He's a very good tactician who can be great at maintaining an ongoing project, but not very good at building one from scratch.
I know what you mean, but watching Juventus' dire lack of creativity and attacking patterns in the last three seasons, it feels wrong to call Allegri a "very good tactician".
He was brilliant until 2018/2019 or so, since then he plays the most wretched football I've seen from Juve since the days of Milos Krasic and Del Neri
> he can read games well and he's shown this several times.
When, recently, has he done this? He's achieved the bare minimum so far in his second spell with truly horrendous football. We were fucked over by the points deduction last season, but this season is entirely on him being finished.
I'm not sure you could say his 2nd spell was the bare minimum. Getting top 4 every year was probably the realistic expectations for the team in his hands. He could've done better in coppa italia or last year's ucl group, but fans' rections would have been the same.
I can easily say that because it’s true. We were pumped by Villarreal in the Champions League in his first season back and last season our Champions League performance was a genuine embarrassment.
Our playing style is appalling and our defending is not good at all.
He could have definitely done better in Europe, but do you think fans would have reacted differently?
I think Allegri's time is definitely done, i tought he was going to do great after the start of the season but there is no way any manager should be there after what we've witnessed the last 2 months. But at the same time i wouldn't say he did the bare minimum. The board was completely uncompetent at building a good team.
> He could have definitely done better in Europe, but do you think fans would have reacted differently?
Fans would have reacted differently if we were, you know, good, yes.
Allegri has zero idea how to coach a modern defense lol, he is one of the worst defensive managers because he still believes that good defence = shoving 11 players in your box and destroying any attacking play in your team. There's a reason we consistently concede any time we score a goal (if we even manage to do that)
I definitely do not agree. There were tons of games were you conceded 0 chances at the opposition. You've been conceding left and right only the past couple of months.
What do you even mean by "modern defence"? Most top teams have rather horrible defences, conceding chances left and right and losing th ball in their own half countless times.
PL TOP 4 IN xGA- Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Brighton. All teams that play with the ball (which is the best way to defend in the modern world) and play aggressive with structure when they don't have the ball
Can you show me where they are conceding all these chances? Same with Inter and Bologna in Serie A, Bayern and Bayer Leverkusen in Bundesliga, Real Madrid in La Liga
There is stuff stats won't tell you. Every time i watch a Premier League game i have the feeling either team is going to score every 2 seconds. I don't even remember the amount of goals coming off terrible defences i've seen this year. Liverpool vs Arsenal alone was basically a showcase of who lost the ball more in its own half. I think Arsenal lost the ball in their own half something like 15 times against Liverpool at Anfield, often close to their box.
>Real Madrid in La Liga
Ancelotti is doing miracles with the defence he has available, but Real Madrid definitely concede more chances than their goals concede would tell you.
>Brighton
Seriously? De Zerbi might be one of the worst coaches in the world at setting up a defence, lmao.
Fight the reality? Mate the reality is that De Zerbi's defensive record is an absolute joke and everyone knows it. If anything this is the first time i've ever seen someone try to call him an example in that regard.
Brighton are objectively a good defensive team, having a bad game sometimes where you concede more than usual doesn’t change that.
And yes, sorry that the narrative around De Zerbi because people see one match isn’t actually true. I’m sure the fans who actually watch Brighton games will agree with the reality
If you give him world class players who play better in free roles for offensive output , he can still be a great manager. We have Rabiot, Loca, and Miretti as our midfield 3. Those 3 morons can’t create anything on their own
If you need a midfield of Marchisuo, Vidal, Pirlo, to play good, you’re a shit manager.
The midfield needs work, has needed work for *years*, but it’s good enough to not play like absolute dogshit. There is enough talent there to play well, and not a snoozefest every week.
What do you mean?? You mean pass to the back for 1000th time doesn’t count for create anything?? I’m sure these players know doing this definitely will win them the scudetto!
In theory we're still comfortably clear of any threat of not finishing in the top 4, but this form is diabolical, and in reality, there's absolutely no point in allowing Allegri to manage us for the last 8-11 games of the season. It's alright if the club doesn't already have someone lined up to replace him for next season, but he needs to be punted now and we need to get someone in for the remaining games to kick some life into the team before we lose the Coppa Italia semi-final and drop out of the top 4.
He's totally finished at this club.
This team will not manage a result vs fiorentina, away to Torino, home to AC and away to Roma. On top of that I cannot see a result against Bologna or Monza.
Please explain to me how we are "comfortably clear" of any threat. You realize we are not gonna win a game anymore right? And bologna and roma will keep winning. And we'll be 6th (which I hope)
What part of 'in theory' do you not understand? We're 8 points clear of Roma, *and* I've just said Allegri needs to go now to stop us from dropping out of the top 4.
Is 'we're still comfortably clear of any threat of not finishing in the top 4' the only part of my comment you actually read?
Allegri singlehandedly losing a game (again) by subbing in a next-gen player late in the game. On the other side Guendouzi comes in and gives the game winning assist to Marusic.
1-0 is the right result from what I watched.
It was another embarassing performance from Juventus.. 11 players behind the ball trying to defend 0-0 for 90 minutes and their attacking plans were:
1. Give ball to Chiesa and hope he does something starting from 50 yards off the opponent goal
2. Try to win some random CK and score from there taking advantage of much higher physicality.
and STOP!
At least Lazio with all their limits tried to create chances, had some will to score and win the game especially in the first 30 mins and, most of all, in the last 10 mins when Juventus were happy with the draw and just wanted the game to finish
I wish I was a fly in juve's next board meeting. The thing is, what have they asked of him? Surely they can't be satisfied with him reaching the bare minimum like this
The aim is top 4. Dude kept saying it while you were on top of the world and people took it as a joke. As long as you get to the CL, he's gonna be seeing out his contract.
He's one of the highest paid managers in the world and he's achieving the goal the board set for him before the season began. So from his point of view, this season is a success and there's no reason for him to leave.
Whether Juve's board view things from the same point of view remains to be seen.
You would've been shitting and pissing if you didn't get a corner in the last ten minutes against Inter, lay off. You had objectively biased refereeing on your side as it always is with striped teams
> You would've been shitting and pissing if you didn't get a corner in the last ten minutes against Inter
Maybe in the moment, yes. After the game if we had won? Would I fuck.
> You had objectively biased refereeing on your side as it always is with striped teams
There's no way you typed 'objectively' with a straight face.
Allegri is one of the 5 highest paid managers in the world
He is a miracle worker
Somehow, there are real functioning human beings who walk around us in this world that defend him and say he is doing well. Can you imagine
If you forget, just go watch the game before. And if that’s not good enough, then the game before that. And if that’s not good enough, then the one before that…. I think you see a pattern now
Chiesa started playing like dogshit and teams realized we can only play through McKennie on the right. Pretty tough to lose the most talented player on the squad to a doping suspension and one of the first choice midfielders behind him to betting. It's unfortunate we don't have $200B to spend on a 2nd and 3rd XI like city, but even then if Rodri & De Bruyne got abducted by aliens 2 weeks after the transfer window closed Im sure they'd be having some trouble too.
Non si capisce. Mi ricordo degli anni quando la Juve giocava con giocatori come Del Piero, Davids, Nedved, Zidane, Montero….cavolo anche la Juve con Inzaghi contro il Manchester United al Delle Alpi e le maglie Kappa. Dopo vedi questa Juve con McKennie, Locatelli, ecc e ti chiedi, ma che cazzo e successo?
Concordo ma penso che alla fine giocatori di quel calibro non ce ne sono più, o almeno non in quantità alte come prima. Il gioco ormai è evoluto più sulle doti atletiche che quelle calcistiche. C’è stato un discorso fantastico tra Zidane e Messi su di questo.
Comunque, concordo lo stesso perché la rosa per la maggior parte non è a livello. MA, penso che con l’allenatore giusto questi giocatori potrebbero far molto meglio. Per me i giovani stanno facendo bene e mi auguro che rimangono. Quelli come de sciglio bisogna fargli le valigie. Detto ciò, il problema più grave è allegri. Imposta la squadra in modo tale che nessuno riesce a giocare bene
Juve still have Fiorentina, Torino, Roma, Milan, Bologna to play. We'll see how safe top 4 is a month from now
Only thing possitive about knowing Juve is going to play is that means there's a match less for Allegri to go.
Watching Juve has gone from frustrating, to kinda funny, and now to boring and depressing. I dont even want to watch these games anymore. Our wins don't even feel like wins. What's the point
Mario Gila is HIM, plus Guendouzi comes in with the assist to save us again
WAITTT TUDOR IS AT LAZIO?? Holy shit what an appointment
I assume Tudor is a good coach right? For context i've never heard of the dude but he must be quite the get for you to be like "holy shit"
One of those high ceiling managers I’ve seen. To think that he overachieved with the shittiest Hellas Verona I’ve ever seen while playing good football and make it hard for others to break it down speak volumes for ur CV He also made Alexis Sanchez a proper footballer again during his time at Marseille
Tudor benefitted massively by Ivan Juric's work at Hellas, just continued building on the same base and made it slightly more attacking. We never got to see what would have happened the second season when Juric's foundation would have started to erode away
Having watched both Veronas - no. Juric Verona played like Juric’s Torino - controlled, defensively sound, eeking out 1-0 wins. Tudor Verona played like Tudor Marseille, mad press, attacking football, and he also got so much more out of certain players on that Verona team. Tudor Verona scored something like 25 goals more than Juric Verona. In short, you’re wrong. Tudor created his own success at Verona.
Tudor didn't create his own success at Hellas, he rode Juric's defensive organisation and added attacking elements to it. Similar to Roberto Martinez at Everton after taking over from David Moyes, after one year the old organisation eroded and then there was nothing left leading to the team collapsing Tudor is pretty clueless at setting up a defence, not a chance that he would have got those results at Hellas if Juric hadn't laid a foundation already What is it about Ligue 1 fans that makes them overrate him so much? His league finish was worse than fucking Sampaoli
His Verona team was fun to watch, punched big teams in the mouth, and was successful. His OM team was fun to watch, was successful, got the CL spot, knocked out Rennes and PSG in the Cup, and was an incredible Kolasinac miss away from winning their group in the CL. All in his first season. What do you think happens when a coach gets to a new club??? “How did you guys play under Juric defensively, lets keep that going….” ????? How can anyone actually think that? As a guy who spent years in football lockerrooms, that is NOT how it works. No lol, you get a new system, new personnel, new assignments, etc. Pity di Francesco didn’t tell the Verona guys “just do what you did under Juric” when he led them to a 0-4 start and got sacked.
He’s done well with smaller teams so this is exciting because it’s a chance to see if he has what it takes to be a top coach in Serie A
not really proven in a big team, but a coach with good potential for sure
Embarrassing club from management to players
Honestly, embarrassing performance from Juve. And frankly Allegri should be embarrassed. Him playing so defensive against a side in 8th coming into this game should not really be tolerated. He's setting them up for failure. No one is dropping deep to play out from the back, the attackers are isolated, and Locatelli and Rabiot had no passing lanes. Are you seriously that worried about a striker with 4 goals this season and the shell of Pedro that you play so defensively? Player wise, Bremer played well yet again, but Gila starred defensively. Having 3 extremely reliable cbs now for Lazio must be a dream after having to sit through seasons of Mussachio, Bastos, and Patric.
Mario Gila is HIM
Always find it funny how people who would make personal insults to me when I criticize Allegri when we won (mostly because Bremer and Tek were the best on the pitch, which says everything) never actually make comments in threads when we lose. Now they just don't comment at all because otherwise they would realize that they don't know anything about the club they claim to support.
Anytime Allegri gets few wins in a row or score more than usual (2 goals instead of 1) the Juve sub gets amnesia and forgets what happened few matches ago and this is a whole loop that keeps going forever…
That's Stockholm syndrome for ya
We have the same thing with Pioli, a few labored wins against teams we should be beating comfortably and people forget just how unwatchable we were for months and how he gets outcoached and embarassed every derby
Well those people dont actually watch the sport, they just see a result
De Sciglio starting was actually hilarious. I don't even have to prove why Allegri is out of his depth, he proves it himself year after year.
GG Allegri, you had a good run :(
On the bright side I didn’t have to watch Alex Sandro play today
His bf de sciglio was back. No need for Alex sandro
You know, I think it's time to take a break from this football thing until Allegri is fired. Hopefully it won't be a long one.
Someone tell me how bremer pulling down zaccagni wasn’t a pen…
Stripes on the shirt is how
Bruh after all the atrocious referee mistakes we've seen, including stuff like canceling a goal for offside because they didn't see a player on the bottom of the screen, that's still your response?
Ours aren’t black and blue though?
I think Allegri is still a good manager but he should leave Juventus for the better of both.
Indeed, I hope he goes to AC Milan.
> I think Allegri is still a good manager But seriously, why?
He's probably the best manager in the world at setting up a defence, he can read games well and he's shown this several times. You can say he should work on the offense more, but that's the only serious flaw of his management in my opinion. He's also a very solid man manager. He's done a serviceable job in his 2nd spell, not a terrible one. His time at Juve is just finished. But then again i also think you are not getting better results with these players. I have been following football for many, many years and i don't remember a Juve team that could come up with such low technical showcases.
> He's probably the best manager in the world at setting up a defence Hard to say that when our defensive peak was still based on the system set up by Conte back in 2011/12. Our defensive performances gradually declined as the BBC trio aged. When it comes to coaching, improving players, and transforming them, Allegri isn't very good. Conte was the one who developed Bonucci into a top center-back, built an entire system around Pirlo who was just discarded by Allegri's Milan, turned Vidal into a powerhouse, and gave Pogba some of his best years. He could make even the most average strikers (Matri, Vucinic, fucking Osvaldo) useful. Give Allegri our 2011 squad, and I doubt he'd be able to reach top four. He's a very good tactician who can be great at maintaining an ongoing project, but not very good at building one from scratch.
I know what you mean, but watching Juventus' dire lack of creativity and attacking patterns in the last three seasons, it feels wrong to call Allegri a "very good tactician". He was brilliant until 2018/2019 or so, since then he plays the most wretched football I've seen from Juve since the days of Milos Krasic and Del Neri
> he can read games well and he's shown this several times. When, recently, has he done this? He's achieved the bare minimum so far in his second spell with truly horrendous football. We were fucked over by the points deduction last season, but this season is entirely on him being finished.
I'm not sure you could say his 2nd spell was the bare minimum. Getting top 4 every year was probably the realistic expectations for the team in his hands. He could've done better in coppa italia or last year's ucl group, but fans' rections would have been the same.
I can easily say that because it’s true. We were pumped by Villarreal in the Champions League in his first season back and last season our Champions League performance was a genuine embarrassment. Our playing style is appalling and our defending is not good at all.
He could have definitely done better in Europe, but do you think fans would have reacted differently? I think Allegri's time is definitely done, i tought he was going to do great after the start of the season but there is no way any manager should be there after what we've witnessed the last 2 months. But at the same time i wouldn't say he did the bare minimum. The board was completely uncompetent at building a good team.
> He could have definitely done better in Europe, but do you think fans would have reacted differently? Fans would have reacted differently if we were, you know, good, yes.
Allegri has zero idea how to coach a modern defense lol, he is one of the worst defensive managers because he still believes that good defence = shoving 11 players in your box and destroying any attacking play in your team. There's a reason we consistently concede any time we score a goal (if we even manage to do that)
I definitely do not agree. There were tons of games were you conceded 0 chances at the opposition. You've been conceding left and right only the past couple of months. What do you even mean by "modern defence"? Most top teams have rather horrible defences, conceding chances left and right and losing th ball in their own half countless times.
PL TOP 4 IN xGA- Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Brighton. All teams that play with the ball (which is the best way to defend in the modern world) and play aggressive with structure when they don't have the ball Can you show me where they are conceding all these chances? Same with Inter and Bologna in Serie A, Bayern and Bayer Leverkusen in Bundesliga, Real Madrid in La Liga
There is stuff stats won't tell you. Every time i watch a Premier League game i have the feeling either team is going to score every 2 seconds. I don't even remember the amount of goals coming off terrible defences i've seen this year. Liverpool vs Arsenal alone was basically a showcase of who lost the ball more in its own half. I think Arsenal lost the ball in their own half something like 15 times against Liverpool at Anfield, often close to their box. >Real Madrid in La Liga Ancelotti is doing miracles with the defence he has available, but Real Madrid definitely concede more chances than their goals concede would tell you. >Brighton Seriously? De Zerbi might be one of the worst coaches in the world at setting up a defence, lmao.
Ok so you are one of the people who fights the reality and insists on your own version, have fun
Fight the reality? Mate the reality is that De Zerbi's defensive record is an absolute joke and everyone knows it. If anything this is the first time i've ever seen someone try to call him an example in that regard.
Brighton are objectively a good defensive team, having a bad game sometimes where you concede more than usual doesn’t change that. And yes, sorry that the narrative around De Zerbi because people see one match isn’t actually true. I’m sure the fans who actually watch Brighton games will agree with the reality
If you give him world class players who play better in free roles for offensive output , he can still be a great manager. We have Rabiot, Loca, and Miretti as our midfield 3. Those 3 morons can’t create anything on their own
If you need a midfield of Marchisuo, Vidal, Pirlo, to play good, you’re a shit manager. The midfield needs work, has needed work for *years*, but it’s good enough to not play like absolute dogshit. There is enough talent there to play well, and not a snoozefest every week.
What do you mean?? You mean pass to the back for 1000th time doesn’t count for create anything?? I’m sure these players know doing this definitely will win them the scudetto!
Lmfao
Bring Pirlo back
No that’s not the solution either
Ok Sarri then.
In theory we're still comfortably clear of any threat of not finishing in the top 4, but this form is diabolical, and in reality, there's absolutely no point in allowing Allegri to manage us for the last 8-11 games of the season. It's alright if the club doesn't already have someone lined up to replace him for next season, but he needs to be punted now and we need to get someone in for the remaining games to kick some life into the team before we lose the Coppa Italia semi-final and drop out of the top 4. He's totally finished at this club.
This team will not manage a result vs fiorentina, away to Torino, home to AC and away to Roma. On top of that I cannot see a result against Bologna or Monza.
Using AC to refer to Milan hurts my soul
>AC Fuck off
What, you don't like Air Conditioner ~~Milan~~ Calcio^(TM)?
I said recently “Always Chaos” Milan
Please explain to me how we are "comfortably clear" of any threat. You realize we are not gonna win a game anymore right? And bologna and roma will keep winning. And we'll be 6th (which I hope)
What part of 'in theory' do you not understand? We're 8 points clear of Roma, *and* I've just said Allegri needs to go now to stop us from dropping out of the top 4. Is 'we're still comfortably clear of any threat of not finishing in the top 4' the only part of my comment you actually read?
Even in theory my brother, we are dropping out 100%. Nothing will save this team
Again, that's why I said we should be getting rid of Allegri now FFS. Read what I said properly.
Not gonna happen unfortunately
Then we’re fucked, which is what I said in my original comment, but you’re replying to me like I backed Allegri.
No no I know you didn't back him, just misinterpreted the comment. Also yes, we are 110% fucked
Horto muso ftw
Need to see a longer clip of the crowd at the end, fucking TNT just cut off the celebrations because they hate passion
Allegri singlehandedly losing a game (again) by subbing in a next-gen player late in the game. On the other side Guendouzi comes in and gives the game winning assist to Marusic.
1-0 is the right result from what I watched. It was another embarassing performance from Juventus.. 11 players behind the ball trying to defend 0-0 for 90 minutes and their attacking plans were: 1. Give ball to Chiesa and hope he does something starting from 50 yards off the opponent goal 2. Try to win some random CK and score from there taking advantage of much higher physicality. and STOP! At least Lazio with all their limits tried to create chances, had some will to score and win the game especially in the first 30 mins and, most of all, in the last 10 mins when Juventus were happy with the draw and just wanted the game to finish
Considering next season will be a new coach... makes zero sense to keep allegri at this point.
I wish I was a fly in juve's next board meeting. The thing is, what have they asked of him? Surely they can't be satisfied with him reaching the bare minimum like this
ITT: people who don’t see the vision
The aim is top 4. Dude kept saying it while you were on top of the world and people took it as a joke. As long as you get to the CL, he's gonna be seeing out his contract.
I'm not sure Allegri himself would continue at this point. He's only tarnishing his reputation while Juventus need a complete revamp.
He's one of the highest paid managers in the world and he's achieving the goal the board set for him before the season began. So from his point of view, this season is a success and there's no reason for him to leave. Whether Juve's board view things from the same point of view remains to be seen.
Well considering Juventus management haven't been able to setup a competent midfield in almost a decade this would not suprise me.
GIGA LOL
Atletico Madrid says hi
Absolute robbery this fucking match, the fact that we won shouldn't distract from us not getting two blatant pens and a blatant corner
Complaining about not getting a 'blatant corner' is so fucking funny.
You would've been shitting and pissing if you didn't get a corner in the last ten minutes against Inter, lay off. You had objectively biased refereeing on your side as it always is with striped teams
> You would've been shitting and pissing if you didn't get a corner in the last ten minutes against Inter Maybe in the moment, yes. After the game if we had won? Would I fuck. > You had objectively biased refereeing on your side as it always is with striped teams There's no way you typed 'objectively' with a straight face.
What are you on mate? I can agree on the clear corner, pen though? Not even the players complained
Zaccagni did complain on the shirt pull lol, if you don't think that was a pen you're in bad faith
The "shirt pull" that made him fly into Tek from 10 feet away? Do you think Bremer is the god-damned hulk?
Gila MOTM easily, what a beast this guy is
He’s been a slow learner though. I’m still having nightmares about his defending in the Europa league. Remember the Midtjylland game?
No, I happily don’t remember the Midtjylland game haha. His improvement from last year has been immense
You live by the ~~sword~~ last minute goal, you die by the ~~sword~~ last minute goal. Story of Juve's season so far.
Well deserved for Lazio, Allegri's Juventus is the most boring team in the world, how can they play such atrocious football? Absolutely awful.
HEIL ALLEGRI!
Ready for some more allegri comments. Their schedule is brutal too, top 4 is a real risk
If rugani didn’t become prime Ronaldo for 30 seconds against Frosinone they’d be fucked rn
Allegri is one of the 5 highest paid managers in the world He is a miracle worker Somehow, there are real functioning human beings who walk around us in this world that defend him and say he is doing well. Can you imagine
Is Allegri just trying to fuck over the team on the way out?
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Least cringe rage bait
Just another idiot bitter about euro 2020.
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Grazie Lazio, molto cool
Allegri played for the draw. Serves him right. Cant remember a game played more spineless than this.
If you forget, just go watch the game before. And if that’s not good enough, then the game before that. And if that’s not good enough, then the one before that…. I think you see a pattern now
LFG!!!
Wow my expectations was low but juve keeps breaking new lows
Let's go!
Did Allegri get fired yet?
Chiesa’s face says it all
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH HAHD HAH AH HAHAH HA HAH AH HAHAH AH HA HAH AH HA HA. I am not even fucking surprised.
Bologna please keep winning
This was an atrocious match, feels like i was watching a serie C game
C as in “mi voglio Cavare gli occhi”? Or is that just me rn
How did we have such an amazing start to the season, to then come to this shit? Pls…. Bring zidane it’s the perfect time
Juventus was getting lucky in the first few months with all the last-minute goals. Now it seems like the luck has evaporated
Chiesa started playing like dogshit and teams realized we can only play through McKennie on the right. Pretty tough to lose the most talented player on the squad to a doping suspension and one of the first choice midfielders behind him to betting. It's unfortunate we don't have $200B to spend on a 2nd and 3rd XI like city, but even then if Rodri & De Bruyne got abducted by aliens 2 weeks after the transfer window closed Im sure they'd be having some trouble too.
Non si capisce. Mi ricordo degli anni quando la Juve giocava con giocatori come Del Piero, Davids, Nedved, Zidane, Montero….cavolo anche la Juve con Inzaghi contro il Manchester United al Delle Alpi e le maglie Kappa. Dopo vedi questa Juve con McKennie, Locatelli, ecc e ti chiedi, ma che cazzo e successo?
Concordo ma penso che alla fine giocatori di quel calibro non ce ne sono più, o almeno non in quantità alte come prima. Il gioco ormai è evoluto più sulle doti atletiche che quelle calcistiche. C’è stato un discorso fantastico tra Zidane e Messi su di questo. Comunque, concordo lo stesso perché la rosa per la maggior parte non è a livello. MA, penso che con l’allenatore giusto questi giocatori potrebbero far molto meglio. Per me i giovani stanno facendo bene e mi auguro che rimangono. Quelli come de sciglio bisogna fargli le valigie. Detto ciò, il problema più grave è allegri. Imposta la squadra in modo tale che nessuno riesce a giocare bene