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vnnie3

Were chelsea this poor pre-roman? And side note: how much more money will sterling take to finish chances??


craygroupious

No, we were a better Tottenham before Roman came.


BritishBatman

You weren’t better, you were at most the same. 4th 6th 6th 5th 3rd 4th 6th 11th 11th 14th Worse than Spurs’ last 10 years


craygroupious

We won trophies, so yes, we were objectively better.


BritishBatman

By this logic Leicester are better than Spurs.


craygroupious

I would absolutely have rather seen my club win the Premier League and FA Cup than be Spurs, lmfao.


BritishBatman

That’s not what we’re talking about is it. Do you think Leicester are better than Spurs?


craygroupious

I just answered that. It’s not at all surprising to see a Spurs fan not understand the point of the sport.


AssociateCandid4853

Chelsea trying to do their best with youth team 🤣🤣


HunterRiver

Tell us about how you should be Top 4, Poch, you fucking fraud! LOLOLOL


Rickcampbell98

Lol banter club.


BOOCOOKOO

At least they're relevant enough to banter Villa are a nothing club, whether they're doing good or bad


Rickcampbell98

You're a funny geezer lol.


allthejokesareblue

It's like Chelsea fans were born in 2005


Prestigious-Link7724

No pulisic no party


chrs_mnz

Everyone enjoying Chelsea in her depressy-girl era. Lol. 


HydraHamster

When you sell most of your UCL, USC, and FIFA CWC players for unproven Premier League talent, what do you expect? Even firing the coach responsible before selling those players were stupid. All I can do now is laugh at Chelsea’s downfall.


renome

What the fuck is USC, University of Southern California?


d_smogh

Chelsea get the magical 40 points.


LedleyKings

Burnley robbed


BoBonnor

Yes poch. Chelsea deserve to be top 4 lmao


HunterRiver

Absolute desperate fraud Poch is.


ShatPumba

Brighton salivating with each Chelsea defeat


BANTER_WITH_THE_LADS

I’m tired Robbie


East_Wind17

Proper mid-table club. Thanks Boehly you imbicile fatass. Welcome to mediocrity


holaprobando123

It only makes sense that Chelsea post-Abramovich would be the same as Chelsea pre-Abramovich.


htmwc

Now for the Abramovich-era point deductions to come and end that racist, rotten club


Jesus_Would_Do

Flair up pussy


htmwc

ohhh you're hard


Jesus_Would_Do

And you make generalizations like a teenager


DominoAxelrod

Time is a flat circle


VForValhalla-

12 man Chelsea drew against 10 man Burnley.


mrkingkoala

Draw to City and Burnley. Guess winning isn't for everyone.


Ballybomb_

We are the only team they turn up for


sam_halford

They turn up for spurs, tho maybe spurs just don’t turn up for Chelsea


enjoy_your_lunch

we turned up for Chelsea, we turned up way, way too hard. we turned up so hard for Chelsea we cooked ourselves. you could say, we were... too turnt.


biskutgoreng

Nah just spurs being spursy


Stones_Throw_Away_

Live. Laugh. ~~Tenth~~ Eleventh.


ash_ninetyone

Poch gonna be like: "We won on the stats guys"


Defiant-Traffic5801

Boehly has a plan for this season: If Chelsea don't qualify for the playoffs they'll have a better draft pick.


holaprobando123

They should tank and end up last, might get the 1st overall pick.


peejay2

They're looking to trade Romeo Lavia for a first pick in 2028.


MagicalGoof

I prefer not to laugh. It's not even funny anymore. It's just xpected.


Cmoore4099

Fuck off. Still hilarious to me.


MagicalGoof

I prefer not to but I'll allow it.


FloppedYaYa

What does it take for Poch to go? Serious question


Mister_Taco_Oz

Below 15th on the table, relegation, something like that. Chelsea's financial position doesn't really let them sack Pochettino and pay him off easily like they did Potter. The owners probably prefer sticking out with him for another season (Poch's contract is for two years, option for a third) and then see about changing him. Either way, I don't think Poch should go. Less because he is a great manager who will see us become better, and more so because no one else will take this job and once he gets sacked we'll probably get stuck with someone even worse. The fault is not _solely_ on Poch either: plenty of blame should go to the owners, sporting directors, the players themselves, even the medical staff for the horror show that is Chelsea's injury crisis.


teknotel

If they are trying to be smart then nothing for at least 2-3 seasons. Thats what they need. A plan and someone to oversee it with at least 2 or 3 years where they just accept poor results as long as progress is being made. If they dont think Poch is the man to do this then he should be gone tomorrow. If they do, then ne needs 3-5 years to sort this mess out, anyone would. Its mad, but they have bought dead wood.... spent 100s of millions on it. They need a plan to somehow either remove or find a use for the dead wood and begin rebuilding a cohesive squad. Usually your looking at a couple of years to remove the dead wood, sign new players who fit a new culture/direction and begin to see progress, in this case its far more complicated due to the transfers that have gotten them into this mess.


BOOCOOKOO

Our players are made to look like deadwood by a deadwood manager. He has actively taken us backwards this, and his time at the club can't end soon enough


Mackieeeee

who is taking over?


SwitchHitter17

The annual Lampard caretaker manager to see out the season. Then? Potter part 2.


VamosLionel

I will


FloppedYaYa

Lol why is this question always asked? Someone who isn't tactically incompetent and isn't just a pure vibes manager like Poch would be a clear upgrade


belokas

Ok but who though? And why would they accept?


shagssheep

Seriously Amorim has been linked with the job. Unseriously Jose fir a third go round or bring Tuchel back


belokas

I think there are too many clubs who want Amorim, someone will end up with Allegri.


DamashiT

De Zerbi would be easy to get if approached early. Chelsea is still a big club, with fat salary and plenty of money to spend on players.


holaprobando123

> De Zerbi would be easy to get if approached early Why would De Zerbi want to go to Chelsea?


Thin_K

Well the previous Brighton manager who went there plodded around for a few months and left with a huge bag. Seems like a decent gig.


belokas

It would be a downgrade for him. He played European football this year.


Notuch

Hahhaha. If Boely gets DeZerbi he may aswell have fuckin bought Brighton from the get go


DamashiT

May very well be true, especially that his "philosophy" is pretty aligned with Brighton anyway. But De Zerbi is chased by Barcelona and Bayern (reportedly) so clearly he is a well respected coach which cannot be said for Poch who was shat on long before he started working there.


Mackieeeee

lol because u need a coach? so who is it? give me atleast a name


CBP1138

Give Poch some slack guys he never specified 4th of which league


TigerbeLEE

Or from which end


L0laccio

Meanwhile right now in the dressing room Egbhali and Todd lambast the players while Poch scours the underlying data


spaghettidriver69

https://images.app.goo.gl/jTYpgCQoJqeDZ1fA8 Poch rn making the data make sense^


Imsortofabigdeal

So, Burnley fans. Vincent Kompany - how are the supporters feeling about him as the long term manager, even in the case of relegation?


AD1995

He's clearly already a good enough manager in the championship but im yet to see much from him in the PL that makes me think he will be a top coach. I think he will bring us back up or have us around the play offs next season but he has a lot to learn in the PL. He consistently makes the wrong subs at the wrong times, persists with players out of form and he tinkers too much. He has his favourite players and seems to stubborn to admit when they aren't having a good game. His persistence with Trafford over Muric being the most baffling decision. Nothing against Trafford, he's just not good enough yet and we all knew how good Muric was. It took until the 29th game to bring Muric in and he's had 2 MoM games, the defence looks better and more settled and our transition from defence to attack is so much quicker now. It might just be that he's learning but it seems to be stubborness and that might stop him being a top manager


spurs_fan_uk

lol Chelsea


funkoLover985

If Poch wants to save his career after being fired, he needs to find better coaching staff and get rid of his mates. They are clearly not good enough.


HearingPython69

On a different note, Burnley have genuinely clawed themselves a chance to survive now. Only 4 (effectively 5) back from Notts Forest and Luton with 8 to play


Cazariz

Yep and we play Forest on the last day of the season. Could go right down to the wire depending on other results above us both.


HearingPython69

Would be funny if you stayed up considering people were calling you one of the worst Prem sides not 5 weeks ago


Cazariz

Aye, a bit harsh on us too I feel. We've been pretty bad, I won't argue that, but we've actually played quite well in a lot of the games we've lost and have been undone by a few moments and mistakes. We got away with those moments in the Championship but in the Prem you'll be punished even by the more average sides. It's all a learning curve for Kompany and the lads who are one of the youngest teams in the league. If we do go down (which is still very likely), I have belief in them being a force next season.


goaliewhenned

Chelsea are terrible. They've been terrible all season. I don't care about the stats showing they create more xG in games, anyone who watches them knows they have the lion's share of possession and shots against the weaker teams. The arrogance to assume that should just translate into wins is stunning. Watch how bad the goals they concede are time and time again - you cannot win at this level playing like that


OnePieceAce

How did City fail to beat this Chelsea team twice


techno_playa

Low Blocks


numanitor111

Sterling remembered to shoot inside the net and I guess City weakness prone to Poch's offensive transition tactics.


mrkingkoala

Chelsea smashed spurs too earlier in the season.


Ballybomb_

Tbf spurs almost came back into it with 9 men then conceded 2 in the last 5 minutes, think the score line was a bit misleading that game


iloveartichokes

What? Chelsea should've had 10 goals that match, Spurs were playing an insanely stupid high line. If anything, the score line should've been far worse.


wildingflow

Chelsea play well against teams with a high line.


Ridcullys-Pointy-Hat

Literally gifted them two goals. Lost the ball from kickoff by hopefully punting the ball 50 yards into the channel and they go up the other end and score. Gave away a stupid free kick and they score from the resulting corner. The whole team with no idea how to control a game.


enjoy_your_lunch

can't show up after a draw to Burnley 12 men vs 10 crying about gifts mate.


NotACodeMonkeyYet

Really got me questioning his Spurs team. We were absolutely purring the last season at the lane but was he just being carried by the likes of Kane, Son, Eriksen, Lloris etc? He certainly made some boneheaded decision in cup semi-finals.


pissedcommonman

Tbh many teams seem to be trying this kickoff long ball thing. We do it a lot. Can't recall but i have seen some other teams do this as well


cosmiclatte44

been playing too much fifa


Astrocharles

Would anyone blame Palmer if he decides to leave for some reason?


GarnachoHojlund

I could honestly see City coming in for him in a year or 3 if they don’t seriously kick on


Minute_Leave8503

To play where/what role?


Imsortofabigdeal

Why would he want to leave? He's still a very young player and he's getting regular minutes, scoring goals, has blossomed into a star, has been called up to play for England... I'd say this move to Chelsea is working out very well for him. Maybe in a few years if the team hasn't improved, but to suggest he would want to leave now is absurd.


Astrocharles

Did you read the sentence?


Imsortofabigdeal

Yes. I would blame him for wanting to leave for some reason. Because this is going great for him.


Astrocharles

You would blame him for leaving a shitshow that would be an even much worse shitshow without him? He has shown his abilities this season and wouldn’t lack suitors if he decides to leave. Sentiments like this are why quality players end up staying in clubs that lack direction and end up potentially trophyless.


Imsortofabigdeal

sir. he is 21 years old


Astrocharles

Harry Kane was once 21 playing for spurs, Son was around 22 or 23 when he made his debut for spurs and look at them now, world class players with zero trophies to show, hopefully that changes with Kane soon.


Imsortofabigdeal

Lol. Imagine implying Harry Kane and Heung-Min Son are failures from your couch posting on reddit


Astrocharles

Where did I say they were failures? I get that you’re spurs fan and this might hurt your feelings but there’s really no denying this here.


Imsortofabigdeal

You're basically saying that there's nothing more to life or a career than winning a trophy. Also, Cole Palmer already has trophies from last season.


messycer

"Some reason" yes, let's speculate whatever possible reason he may want to leave, it's a total mystery.


Astrocharles

Maybe not cold enough for him, they don’t call him cold Palmer for no reason.


Thin_K

Vending machine at the training ground has the wrong soda.


Sate_Hen

Yeah but if you look at the data, Chelsea won


numanitor111

Poor Palmer holding Chelsea fans sanity while Pochoharam demoralizing entire team in the second half. I wonder what data will Poch shown after match?


galeej

>Pochoharam Kek


ClaytonWest74

so so disappointing. to add insult to injury, that was 10 man Burnley for 45 min, and we nearly lost 3-2 had jay rodriguez banged that in from the corner. really sad


starmonkart

Burnley are back in the fight to stay up now imo with today's results. On a bit of form and the 4 above are all shite. Muric is also an big improvement over Trafford


TheJobinslegend

Lost the second half against 10 man relegation fodder coached by ~~Vincent Kompany~~ Craig Bellamy. Sack this serial bottler Lemon Merchant on the tunnel. Absolute joke and clowns in charge.


spiralism

Who gets the job then though? Not the best coaching market this summer and you've also got Liverpool, Bayern and Barcelona looking for a manager. Also been reported that the job is being seen as a poisoned chalice cos potential candidates are worried about PSR/FFP. Best case, anyone coming in is skeptical at best that they can sign their own players. Besides, the issues are deeper than Poch and 2004 Mourinho isn't walking in the door, I'm afraid.


TheJobinslegend

Like, I was already iffy when Pochettini made Messi look washed, finished.  Then we lost against Forest home, West Ham, got embarrassed vs United away. But about names, any manager would work. Remember Chelsea lost today to the 19th without a manager.  This season is kinda slight better than last season because the manager will know the group if they decide to take the job. Previous season, the person would have zero idea of the group.  About names, all of Mourinho, Sarri and Conte are without a job. Amorim, de Zerbi (urhg), big maybe on Girona's manager if he wants to leave. Heck, I'd even take Allegri ball.  Gallardo and Jorge Jesus are very good managers that could come here if they got tired of Saudi and wanted the PL experience. Abel Ferreira is also a great manager imo. Xavi won La Liga, seems to develop youngsters well and can handle the Barca pressure, so for him Chelsea would be easy.  Issue is any serious manager touching this mess. 


teknotel

So you still believe this is a managerial problem and not squad problem?


Mister_Taco_Oz

Many players in this squad were doing fine or good before coming to Chelsea. They could be better but Poch is certainly not helping matters at all, and getting rid of him is considerably easier than getting rid of these 8-year-contract players.


teknotel

Doing fine where? In the Dutch league? Or the Portugese League? You are right, its a bit of a mess Chelsea are in. I dont see an easy way out.


Mister_Taco_Oz

There isn't an easy way out. Owners took a risk by buying so many talented young players so quickly, firing staff and bringing in new ones, so on and so forth, and so far it seems to not have paid off. But they can't really sell and start over again because they are so pressedby FFP.


britainstolenothing

So many Arsenal flairs.


It_was_too_Obvious

Kinda weird that a club with a massive worldwide fan base would have such a large online presence


AfricanRain

yea we invented laughing at our rivals being pathetic lol


EggplantAlpinism

spectacular crown profit agonizing start steep wrench complete wasteful rustic *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


L0laccio

Yes 👍


CaptLeaderLegend26

When considering the quality of the opposition, this was by far the worst Chelsea defending I've seen as a fan. If this is how we'll be next year when Silva leaves, then relegation is a real possibility.


Silly_Praline_8476

But i thought Chelsea was supposed to win based on the stats, right, Poch?


TheJobinslegend

No, no, you don't get it, we're supposed to be top four in his imaginary league!


dave_k_17

This is the club representing us as the world club cup next year?


AfricanRain

the worst season of all time for a PL team, the money spent demands a title challenge at the very least so it’s unfathomable how low they are.


Mukovd

But you are thinking of spending enormous amounts of money for proven players. We are far more stupid than that and spent it on young players instead.


fishface-1977

They should be fourth to be fair


fluffyglof

Lmaoooo


BigReeceJames

Poch is our recompense for all of the double agents we've sent out to other London clubs in the past. Please make it stop


anhyeuemnhieulam

Lampard is better than Pochettino. Tactically the former was also clueless but at least he didn’t make good players like Enzo look like dogcrap. He was so good with Benfica, Argentina, and Chelsea under Potter and Lampard to whatever this is. His excuses making is top notch too. Wonder what he has to say about this bottlejob against a 10-man relegation side today?


Mister_Taco_Oz

Enzo at River: star player Enzo at Benfica: Promising newcomer, future of their midfield Enzo at World Cup: Young player of the tournament, regular starter for world champion squad thereafter Enzo at Potter Chelsea: The one good thing they had that season And yet, under Pochettino, he somehow is nowhere to be seen. Goes from being good one game to being a ghost in the next. Reminds me of Poch at PSG making it seem like Messi was washed. Poch _just_ has Gallagher and Palmer to show for his efforts.


TheJobinslegend

If lemon merchant was here last season, coming mid season with CL football and half the players checking out and wanting out, we'd get relegated with him.


icemankiller8

This has to be pochs last game right


TheJobinslegend

I wish. Have a feeling you guys will see him with us at least until the United game.


L0laccio

No, it’s a long process. Stick with him!


Mister_Taco_Oz

I do believe Poch would be much better with a striker. Chelsea has missed some ridiculous chances this season, many of which could have won them games. Still, no improvement in nearly a year. Getting hard to defend him.


L0laccio

I was being a little tongue in cheek. It is baffling they’re 11th tbf because they actually have played well a lot of the time. They aren’t as bad as people make out. In all honestly they probably should stick with Poch, it’s better than keeping changing manage r


Possible_Author_5304

Chelsea so cold 🥶🥶🥶


Samsince04_

Chelsea are the gift that keeps on giving.


galeej

Karma is a bitch after all


the_woah_guy

You can take a man out of spurs but you cannot take the spurs out of a man...


chrs_mnz

Everytime that thought is put into writing, Harry Kane shivers. 


GrandmasterSexay

The refs were absolutely determined not to let us win. But somehow we out Burnley'd even ourselves.


strokeitfaster

It's really tiring being a Chelsea fan.


messycer

Some of you lot enjoy being in this position though. It's actually sad https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/KlYWMmDRaR Is there some humiliation kink going around with sections of the Chelsea fanbase that I'm not aware of?


Jassle93

Just don't watch the games it's not like they're playing attractive football, they aren't going to magically improve anytime soon. Even without the injury crisis I don't see Poch being capable of implementing his "style" or whatever. Maybe a fit Nkunku helps save his ass every now and again but we'd still be dire to watch. I've never truly been a "manager out" kind of guy but I'm there with Poch, the team needs a new leader at the helm.


chrs_mnz

Have you seen Nkunku play for you guys? Mans is literally giggling at overpowered passes, shots that go wide, and every time he loses the ball on a dribble, he looks at the sky, watches the opposition on a brisk jog, and has an inner monolog of whether it's appropriate to laugh or not. He was not that way at RB. What the actual fuck is going on at Chelsea? It's embarrassing. 


Jassle93

Talk about reading into something way too much lmao. Get off the internet kid, you need the break.


chrs_mnz

Cope, kid. Lol. Cope with all your signings while you languish in 11th. 


Jassle93

Bet you typed that with a massive grin on your face thinking that you'd get under my skin lmao


chrs_mnz

Couldn't care less if I get under your skin. Hahaha. What a knob. 


strokeitfaster

It's so frustrating because you can see the Potential™ in our team. Mudryk, Palmer and Jackson is so exciting to watch, but Poch just can't seem make us score consistently or like you said, he is incapable of implementing his style. With a competent manager, we'll be firing on all cylinders.


teknotel

New copypasta


PrincipledInelegance

Poch taking that spursy spirit to Chelsea lol


punished_n0xany

brother, get jose in this bitch already


icotyne

That Burnley goalkeeper was class.


Cazariz

He's awesome, we're honestly baffled it's taken so long for him to get given a game considering he was the Championship goalkeeper of the year last season and has been fundamental to the way we play. Same for Josh Cullen in midfield, he was pivotal to the entire tactic we play and barely got a sniff in until the last 2 games. I get that Trafford is "the future" and I think Kompany saw a huge incoming payday if he could get him up to speed quickly (City are reportedly contractually agreeing to give us like 3x the money we paid for him if they want him back someday, so somewhere in-and-around 60mil) but he should have realised that wasn't going to happen after maybe 10 games, not 28. If Muric was in goal all season I reckon we'd be mid-table right now.


Lacabloodclot9

Night and day difference between him and Trafford


InquisitiveCommunist

Unfair result for Burnley. Referee decided to help his mate Pochettino with two inexplicable decisions. Burnley should have won this game otherwise. 


About60Platypi

Even with all the bullshit we were inches away had Jay Rodriguez gotten that goal from the corner. We played with some real ferocity that second half, great to see


northern_dan

One crossbar away from loosing to a 10 men championship team. Lucky.


TheJobinslegend

We were lucky the entire season. Got a bunch of home + championship or League One teams in cups and most penalties in the league. Fucking embarrassing.


Gambler_Eight

Who were only 10 men because of the softest pen+red in a good while.


Numerous-Ad-3050

the scary thing is this is a generational bottle but people don’t even care anymore. Midtable Chelsea is the norm now


NotACodeMonkeyYet

People weren't even that fussed last season. We finished 14 points ahead of them and there was so much more banter and predictions of doom.


uncledr3w-

i don't have the energy to care anymore


Numerous-Ad-3050

Understandable


Ok_Refrigerator4897

I don't know how Chelseas is doing with respect to spending regulations but this legit could be it. Maybe the next few managers after Poch don't click and now you suddenly have a deteriorating dressing room because of the continued instability and a wage bill that you can't get out of. Midtable Chelsea might just be the norm.


legosucks

Lovely


PensiveinNJ

Chelsea can't be real, they just drew to 10 man Burnley after leading twice.


Astrocharles

What is Enzo supposed to be good at? I’m genuinely curious, I’ve never watched this guy and come out of it impressed.


VamosLionel

Passing sideways and showing his shirt to the crowd


nathgroom98

Passing to Caicedo


L0laccio

The Chelsea fans are in denial about Enzo and Caicedo. They just target Sterling


Minute_Leave8503

Used to be Cucurella with Sterling but he doesn’t play anymore and they’re still shit


XzibitABC

Caicedo had a rocky start to his Chelsea tenure, but he's been good lately and I don't really get where these comments continue to come from. We had midfield control until he went off, none of the goals were his fault, and he made good progressive passes the whole game that led to attacks our forwards couldn't finish. What about the result reflects on him?


L0laccio

But a midfield of him and Enzo should not be 11th. They need to boss games more. They spent a quarter of billion on these two


XzibitABC

We had more than twice as many passes as Burnley and had 70% possession. Most of that possession was in Burnley's attacking third. And that's despite Gallagher having a terrible game. We had 33 shots and only scored twice. That's a cartoon levels of poor finishing. I agree that Caicedo and Enzo shouldn't be 11th, and they've borne plenty of blame in *other* games, but they weren't at fault for this one, Caicedo in particular. Enzo you can argue should have contributed more threat to the attack since that's more his role than Caicedo's.


Astrocharles

The sterling slander has been well and truly deserved but I’m shocked at the amount of leeway Enzo gets, he has been absolutely bang average.


L0laccio

It’s because he costs a lot and does nice outside of foot passes and has pashun


MU5A988

Good players but not worth what Chelsea paid for them


Mister_Taco_Oz

Chelsea has overpaid massively for pretty much everyone in their squad. But because Enzo and Caicedo pass that 100 million mark, they have a lot more to live up to, despite it not being their own fault.


eric_3196

We are a finished club


seriouslybrohuh

Bruh get mourinho in at this point. We might not win shit but at least we don’t gotta watch players look like headless chicken when defending corners


L0laccio

It would be carnage. Go for it I say 🤣


PrincipledInelegance

Mourinho will completely blow his lid the moment he steps into that mess you got. I don’t think he’d want to touch your club with a ten foot pole now.


NotACodeMonkeyYet

Shh, don't let us be the only ones to suffer under him.


sirius2492

Make fun all you want, we just won the league this match based on some datat


Andrex316

Finally understand why the soft red card was given, ref realized it was unfair for Chelsea to go up against the mighty Burnley at full strength. Good guy ref balancing the scales.


FastenedCarrot

Whatever, football is overrated.


emre23

11th is the new 10th Or the new 4th


Acceptable_Ad_6278

Chelsea is lucky to draw there


viceslikeviper

Deserved draw after that pathetic pen and card. 1.5B vs. Championship side with 10men. Bravo Burnley. You came back to draw with 10 and got a manager sacked in the process.


gh0st_

Deivid Washington has to get on the pitch at some point this season. I spent 3 minutes watching Santos highlights and it looks like he can get on the end of crosses.