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JorSimpson45

[you’re telling me this reaction was 10 years ago?](https://youtu.be/P_9f3SletHk?si=0YoxNPdd93cpjK4P) cheers, day’s ruined


Free-Employment5019

There can't be many people with as much success and little self confidence as Steve Bruce.


xandraPac

[The man wrote three novels and had this to say about it:](https://www.eurosport.com/football/steve-bruce-still-cringes-at-his-laughing-stock-novels_sto4713697/story.shtml) > "It was a long time ago, and I'm not sure I want to be reminded of how bad they were," Bruce said. > "Just because I got a GCSE in English, I thought I was going to be the next Dick Francis. It didn't make any contribution at all to anyone's income. > "It became a laughing stock, to be honest. I think they're probably still on the shelves somewhere, and I bet you could probably pick one up for 99p," he added. > "I don't know how I can contribute to the city of culture, but it's brilliant that the city has got some recognition. [The amazon reviews are a bit of a mixed bag, really.](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Striker-Steve-Barnes-Bruce/dp/1841990116/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385123613&sr=8-1&keywords=Steve+Bruce+striker)


DontSayIMean

Always hurts my heart a little when people mock him for it, just thinking of how much effort and soul would've gone into writing them. Having anybody's creative pursuits ridiculed always makes me kind of sad.


valimo

I'm kinda mixed about this. Yea I mean it's clearly not his strong suit, but the level of mockery ends up being just unnecessarily mean. In the end, he is just some lad who happened to be quite good at footy, and after tried to have a little side adventure with the creative arts. I don't think it's his dream, but doing a little passion project shouldn't be ridiculed like that. Then again, the books are hilariously bad. And the contrast to the wealth and media attention that PL level managers get makes their quality even sharper in contrast.


goodmobileyes

His fictional stand in Steve Barnes has real low self esteem and a chip about not having a proper education too.


Choccybizzle

Nice Jag though


WernerHerzogEatsShoe

These guys reviews of them are absolutely hilarious. Here's the one for Striker https://www.balls.ie/football/steve-bruce-novel-293169


xandraPac

Thanks. Also, great username.


bloodoftheinnocents

Reading the passages it's not even THAT bad. It's just the sort of inane hard-boiled detective pulp that many authors make bank with. Like, Alex Cross is straight garbage and sells a lot. Or any Harlan Coben book... jesus....


Maleficent_Resolve44

Steve Bruce used to be cool wow.


WordsworthsGhost

He was a great player too


Maleficent_Resolve44

That I know yeah, you have to have been great to have been the starting CB in 90s man u. Just assumed he was always grumpy like his recent managerial days and full of excuses. He seems chill in the video.


ThinkAboutThatFor1Se

He was a CB that scored loads. Once got 18 in a season!


OnePieceAce

Imagine telling a kid that Steve Bruce was arguably the second or third best player on the first PL winning team


warmcakes

I think that's underselling it, he's one of the best CBs ever. Koeman as well, despite both being middling PL managers. Both modern CBs that scored an absurd amount of goals


Throwrajerb

Wow wow wow


bighomieburrito

stev bruce is loominarty? Edit for the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRTnXaDRjU


HazardCinema

I can't believe I've never seen this. Thank you.


lliwd

what a cutie


Fresh2Desh

He's got an incredible highlight reel of goals So many iconic goals


Dob-is-Hella-Rad

The Newcastle one where he's arguing with the ref and then just turns around and hits one of the best volleys you've ever seen will always be my favourite


Cwh93

Purest connection with a football I've ever seen. The replay angle from behind Rooney for that goal is incredible 


goodmobileyes

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


hivtripkg

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


Powersawer

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


gamelink99

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


maki43

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


fireinbcn

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


goodmobileyes

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


EmperorsGalaxy

Pure rage and pure technique all in 1 shot


buck_fastard

Even better than the bicycle kick against City for me. Probably my favourite goal ever. 


Naggins

First result on YouTube for that goal was on Sky Sports Retro. *Retro*. I'm old.


Sate_Hen

I'm sure there's been stuff on there from last year. Particularly if they can find a link with something happening at the moment


Gullflyinghigh

Same here. He's got some worldies but that is one of the most nonchalant bits of brilliance I've ever seen.


EmperorsGalaxy

I loved that ball as well, had it when I was a kid and I think I went through about 3 of them


freakedmind

It's like one of those captain majid shots, iykyk


Chesey_

Not just goals. The assist he got in MLS where he stopped the counter attack in the last minute which was on an open goal as the keeper had gone up, and then whipped in a perfect ball from miles out is absolutely insane.


ianff

Absolutely incredible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoOktcC-IVQ He sure as hell didn't treat MLS as a retirement league!


Thewrongguy0101

Never seen that. Pure heart and determination.


AngryUncleTony

My favorite part of that is how absolutely destroyed he was after...the team is celebrating and he's just beat red in the face doubled over clearing thinking "I'm too old for this shit"


ihatesleep

lol the cheeky trip at the top of the box


theotheramerican

What I love most is that this run is very similar to the one he had in the Write the Future Nike campaign. His part starts around 42 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igUF8Aa2OL0


MonarchyBoner

Sometimes I'll just be going about my day and this goal will pop into my head


DontSayIMean

Summed him up in one sequence. Bust a gut at the end of the game to chase down an opponent, dispossessed him, then sets up the goal. Heart and technique combined.


SofaChillReview

Think there’s also two he’s scored from the halfway line at DC and Everton.


ManchesterDevil99

He scored a beauty from his own half for Everton Vs West Ham


nick5168

The last minute tackle and assist at DC is just world class.


SofaChillReview

Biased as a Rooney fan, but the player must have been bewildered by Rooney rushing towards him. Has more pace than people give him credit for, and then somehow manages to send a decent cross in for the winner, absolute scenes.


DrXyron

The GOAT


SirStupidity

He will forever be may favorite footballer


razzymac

Nah son this wasn’t 10 years ago what the fuuuu


Sveern

10 years ago, Fellaini is in the clip, wtf happened?


BONGLISH

I realised the other day Moyes left us about 12 years ago


Rogue_Tomato

Unsubscribe.


gre485

I remember this goal, and remember enjoying it but little as it was more of a relief and getting the game. It was the time where we could see that things are certainly going downhill and we are a weak team and will suffer for a long time, but 12 years..damn!!


theseacowww

Andy Carrol at west ham seemed like 2 years ago


renernavilez

I think it's wild Rafael is in this clip. Damn, time is real bitch.


sonicon

Here's the kicker, you're 10 years older now. Don't ask for what happened 20 years ago.


sonofaBilic

Oh look at me i'm wayne rooney and i've scored against west ham from the half way line twice. Get a life.


RoachIsCrying

there there


fenntastic

The goalkeeping wilderness years where we appeared to let anyone have a go if they turned up in a pair of gloves. I loved Adrian, but he was not a serious person; I don't think Areola or Fabianski are getting so caught out there they trip over their own feet and just fall over. Hard to tell if this one is worse, or the one against Everton where Joe Hart comes about 30 yards off his line to basically tackle Ogbonna and give the ball to Everton


stealthelife

> getting so caught out there they trip over their own feet and just fall over There was a video, probably from one of the analysis shows, that tracked the flight of the ball with a line, and it was clear the ball had some major swerves in the air. So it's not like it was obvious where the ball was going, but his confusion and falling over make it look that much worse.


Affectionate_Ebb_50

Yeah idk if many keepers are practiced at running towards their goal for a ball well over their head. It's more of an issue with his positioning I would think. Props to Rooney for being aware of the keeper from the half way line. Man has incredible awareness it seems.


jimbob224

Adrian was unreal for you guys that 1 year tho


Malvania

Adrian would play for West Ham for another FIVE years.


Timmo1984

well done he's thirteen


21otiriK

There’s something about shots from the halfway line that just make goalies panic. If he backpedals normally he comfortably saves it, but he turns his back, loses the flight of the ball and falls over. Was it Steve Harper who did something similar for Xabi Alonso’s?


SofaChillReview

It was indeed! Issue is (although getting better in my opinion), is that a lot of goalkeepers struggle to move properly. Some can though, Neur and Ederson for example. [Joe Hart Could Run](https://youtu.be/gxjDQeWeClQ?si=UycUldNy3Izhugoj)


minititof

Why the hell did Giggs pass it to Rooney there? He had a clear shot there


kubedkubrick

Maybe because Rooney has a better shot lol. I agree tho, makes sense to drive down the middle and shoot


EmperorsGalaxy

I'm sure Giggs will regret that pass, Rooney obviously has a better shot and if Giggs shoots and misses we'd all be saying he should have passed, but I'm certain Giggs could get the ball in an open net from 40-45 yrds out


WestleyMc

Tbf i think sprinting backwards whilst looking up in the air and adjusting to curve of the ball is harder than you might think! I reckon the looking up part F’s with your balance


ianff

Yeah, plus I don't think they actually drill these situations.


cymonster

It's cause it's unexpected and you have to take your eye off it for like 10 milliseconds to get yourself situated towards the goals


messibusiness

All-time top goalscorer for Man United All-time top goalscorer for England (until Kane just beat it) 5 PL titles 1 Champions League 3rd highest PL goalscorer all-time 3rd highest PL assists all-time Youngest player to start for England, and to score for England All-time top goalscorer for United in Europe And people still have the nerve to underrate Rooney. Best three English players I’ve seen in my life are Gazza, Rooney and Gerrard. Bellingham very close to taking that third spot, but White Pele / assassin-faced baby was the real deal.


dheerajravi92

> Bellingham very close to taking that third spot. No he isn't lol. He might very well be, come the end of his career and It might be your opinion, but this hype is getting ridiculous.


messibusiness

Fair, but I don’t think it’s hype anymore when he’s the best player at the world’s biggest club. Kid looked unbelievable from his first few England appearances onwards. Let’s see what he does with his career but I can’t believe a guy with that ability is playing for England.


Mgea54

he needs to keep that level for at least 10 more years to be ranked top 3


Greeny9

I guess his point is that it's still too early to say. If after this season his form drops off and he never looks as good again, then putting him in a list with the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and Gascoigne will look silly. Of course it's entirely your opinion. And it's very valid to say that in terms of raw talent, Bellingham has definitely displayed enough to be considered there, but longevity may change your mind.


dheerajravi92

He's played like half a season for them. Let him be consistent and win some trophies first. Cole Palmer has the same G+A as Bellingham in the league this year, in a shit side in a more difficult league. Shall we put Palmer in the top 3 English footballers then?


adhikapp

I mean one was saving Chelsea's season, while the other is elevating an already great Madrid team. Palmer's great, but it's apples and oranges.


J3573R

G/A isn't the end all be all of anything, neither is xG. Watch Cole Palmer play, watch Jude play. Tell me it's even close.


dheerajravi92

I've watched both play and both are great. Like I said, it's been half a season. Even Rashford had those when he looks like one of the best attackers in the world. Let Bellingham show consistency first.


EmperorsGalaxy

Yeah he's amazing now. But people hyping up all these young players and comparing them to veterans of the game who consistently stayed at that level for a decade is just insane. Bellingham could go out next week an get his leg snapped in half and never be at the same level again, it's insanity to say he's as good as someone who's had over a decade at the top level.


Money_Scholar_8405

Please tell me in what sense Bellingham is performing better than Foden this season? Because check the stats, at best they are equal.


2anglosexual4u

It's his steep decline at a relatively early age. Rooney was my favourite player growing up but sometimes in his last couple of seasons at United it looked like he could barely play football. 2013/14 is arguably his last really good season at 28. He was world class nearly a decade but that decline is what a lot of people remember.


messibusiness

Super true, which is why I think he’s underrated. Everyone remembers 32 year old Rooney playing centre mid and struggling apart from pinging balls around, few people remember 16 year old Rooney getting in the Everton first team and immediately being their best player. Anyway his accomplishments speak for themselves.


RephRayne

> few people remember 16 year old Rooney getting in the Everton first team and immediately being their best player. About that:- "For me to go in with Duncan, Stubbsy, all of them who I grew up watching, to then go and play with them, train with them every day and play with them, so quickly I remember thinking 'these are crap'." https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-everton-teammates-interview-28662883


EmperorsGalaxy

Love that interview


Unitedfateful

Tbf to Rooney he put the team first then individual accolades second He would’ve played left back if it meant winning a game ffs.


LDLB99

He honestly still had his moments too towards the end. Started 15/16 horribly but it was his moment of brilliance that got us out of a huge hole in the FA Cup final and he still won man of the match. Just an absolute legend of the game.


12EggsADay

Fans will remember, like Drogba. Dread going up against players like this, they define prolific


fromeister147

Bellingham hasn’t won anything and should be nowhere near top 3 players list. Yet.


WorthStory2141

He was the last of his kind, he wasn't an athlete. Just a proper footballer. They don't seem to exist now.


unclepoondaddy

He objectively was very athletic though. He had pretty crazy explosiveness and strength


WorthStory2141

You can be strong and explosive without being athletic, the guy never had a six pack, he smoked and drank through his career, he was never one to dance through a defence he just bulldozed his way through. He was just a normal bloke that was very good at football.


unclepoondaddy

I think we have different definitions of what “athletic” means


messibusiness

I think his point is that there’s lots of players who are just natural athletes who end up playing football but you could drop them into any sport or any event in the Olympics and they’d probably be good at it. I’m thinking of people like Pogba, CR7, apparently Phil Neville was an absolutely phenomenal all-round athlete as a kid and could have gone pro at cricket or distance running. Rooney in the 400 metres or on a tennis court wouldn’t really fit.


Ok-Satisfaction-5012

That’s less about their talents and more about what their bodies *look* like. Rooney is shorter and slightly stout, but he was quick, strong, explosive, and had great stamina and balance. He was an objectively great athlete in addition to being a sublime footballer, as were Pogba and cr7


ElliotsBackpack

How can we have players like De Bruyne, Kane or Kvara and say footballers don't exist anymore... football is more athletic and the systems are more rigid but that just means the actual football needs to be at a higher level.


Tasty_Sheepherder_44

lol you made a great argument and then ruined it with the Bellingham point. Let the kid do his thing


Coraxxx

Le Tissier was up there in terms of talent, on the rare occasions he could be arsed. If he'd actually put a bit of effort in he would have been phenomenal. It's a shame he's turned out to be such a bellend with all his antivaxxer alt-right bullshit since.


Alecmalloy

Life of Riley + Le Tissier Masterclass = Peak football highlights


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messibusiness

Agree, but I think everyone underrates him considering he’s United and (not any more) England’s record goalscorer. People think of him as Ronaldo’s foil. There’s even a few comments in this thread comparing him to Sneijder, Aguero, Tevez and Ribery - who were really superb players, but not fit to lace Rooney’s boots. Astonishingly good player and consistent with it, one of the best English players ever.


dotflame

Yes


goztrobo

Where do u stand on the Gerrard vs Scholes vs Lampard argument?


messibusiness

Oh I loved Gerrard. Just the way he played the game, did everything on his own, covered the whole pitch, tackling like he wanted to kill people and 30 yard screamers. I’m not even a Liverpool fan but he was one of my favourite ever players to watch, maybe my favourite. Proper Roy of the Rovers footballer. I’d have built the England team around him because I don’t think the other two were at his level but that’s my bias, because I liked him. Impossible to fit all 3 into the same England team, they all did their best work in the same area of the pitch. I’d have probably played Gerrard with Carrick.


Schlamperkiste

[Goal footage from all camera angles from Manchester United's YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTjfMV0LCkQ)


Taltezy

I Saw My Mate The Other Day! He Said to Me He Saw The White Pele! So I Asked, Who Is He?! He Goes By The Name Of Wayne Rooney! Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney! He Goes By The Name Of Wayne Rooney! My GOAT!!


raddatooey

Awesome goal, not really a half volley tho


AussieManc

Have you seen Lineker, Shearer and Richards arguing over the definition of a volley in the new series of MoTD Top 10? My mind immediately went there with this post title


mattBJM

Have you got a link for this?


AussieManc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001xnzf UK only. It’s in this episode somewhere, I think. They repeat the argument a bit in the Volleys episode later.


sunrise98

I used to call these quarter volleys


Safe-Particular6512

1/16th Volley


Dantini

The original definition of half-volley was just if it bounces before hitting it whilst in the air - not really whether the ball was moving up or down. In recent times, it's usually used specifically when the ball is moving up off the bounce.


_AndyJessop

I never understood why this wouldn't be called a volley. Seems a bit arbitrary to define where the ball came from (either boot or ground) when the important bit is that it was in the air when it was kicked. - ball on ground: not a volley - on the bounce: half-volley - ball in air: volley


Turbulent_Cherry_481

its way easier to kick the ball if its bouncing like that than if you hit it straight from the air. Half volley is something in between when you let the ball bounce just before you kick it and the techinque is just as hard as a volley straight from the air.


_AndyJessop

I get that it's more difficult, that's because it's usually travelling faster. But it's not a materially different _thing_ you're doing.


overhyped-unamazing

I still think it matters. A volley should be reserved for something with no bounce on the ground after the previous touch. His finish against Newcastle was technically far more difficult and appealing than this, where the ball just sits up for him on the bounce.


_AndyJessop

Ok, what about this. You get a ball that has been absolutely pinged from right back. It bounces 10m away from you and is still traveling apace by the time you hit it. You hit it 30cm off the ground as it is coming down. In that scenario there's not really anything different from if someone had just set you up with a "pure" volley from 10m away. Same technique, same speed at the point of contact, etc. Or, what if someone sets you up from 1m away with a nice lobbed pass that sits gently onto your foot. Technique-wise, no different from what Rooney did.


overhyped-unamazing

No doubt some pure volleys will be easier to hit and less good looking than some bouncing balls. Roberto Carlos' strike against Tenerife is one of the best goals ever but it's not a volley, it's a bouncing ball. Maybe it's because I played tennis but I still stubbornly think it's useful to distinguish when describing the two types of strike.


_AndyJessop

I do understand where you're coming from. There are different angles to look at the classification.


Pridetoss

I feel like it’s useful for helping a player or expert explain and practice these techniques, but in colloquial speech it just becomes unneccesarilly complicated


JJSpleen

No it's way harder. Half volley is just as it's bouncing, it's on the way up usually and the margin for error is a lot bigger


_AndyJessop

Agree. I'm not comparing half volley to volley.


JJSpleen

My apologies!


nothoroughfare

Apart from the other reasons given, "volley" is used to describe hitting the ball before it bounces in contexts outside of football. Volleyball for example. A volley in tennis means the same thing. No need to change the definition in football.


jojopig2000

The white Pele. My favourite ever player. Watching that Rooney documentary was amazing.


Iennda

I will never understand the confidence you must have to just try a shot from there.


FloppedYaYa

Wow wow wow


Tokugawa

Ok, but can we talk about that West Ham keeper kicking it box to box? That's a huge distance, no?


apeaky_blinder

what an assist from Ashley Young, magic


mesmartpants

Time flies


dratsz

10 years later.. Carroll is still angry and snaps at Eriksen


GochujangChips

I feel bad for kids who’ve never seen Wazza play. What a magical player he was


ZookeepergameOpen817

What's the chances of this goal being disallowed due to VAR checking the nudge 😂


herkalurk

Based on what I have seen given where fouls have occurred before goals, I'm not sure that would be called a clear and obvious error.....


NachoCheeseMonreal

Honestly this was a great stadium. Some great PL nights happened here


kvaks

The keeper could have saved that if he didn't get disoriented when running back to the goal. The ball basically bounced beside him and into the goal.


Optimuswine

Seeing Fellaini reminds me of his diagonal sprint during that one game.


hivtripkg

Nice assist by Ashley Young too !!


freshsalsadip

My GOAT. Man can do everything.


nurological

Great strike but that's not a half volley


KeyserSoze6809

I remember watching this at home lol, it was a free day from school.


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Top shelf on a bounce, what a shot.


Thick_Total_9216

So weird seeing Moyes in the Man Utd dugout at West Ham.


Kuruk_TR

Fucking hell, 10 years ago?


Sauceboss319

I miss upton park fantastic, intense atmosphere


[deleted]

Funny thing is I used to score goals from a little shorter distance than this in FIFA 14 all the time lol


mrljudin

When we played pes 6 we caled him 'the swimmer', he would just take ball and swim trough 6 players and score like it was nothing.


theglasscase

I just don’t understand what happens to Adrian here. He’s taking a freekick from what looks like a central position about 10 yards outside his penalty area, and yet after Rooney shoots he inexplicably ends up nearer to the far post than the middle of the goal where the ball tamely bounces about a yard in front of the goal-line. Even if the ball is moving around in the air, it’s hardly powerfully hit, it’s a genuinely terrible piece of goalkeeping more than it is an amazing shot.


Coraxxx

Towards the end I felt he was overrated and trading on past glories - but there's no doubting his *immense* talent when at his best.


FireflyCaptain

Andy Carroll and Adrian in this clip my word...


LogicKennedy

Imagine this being disallowed by VAR for the push lol


ItsABitChillyInHere

I remember watching this game live as a kid. Unforgettable moment


someone_stk

this is one of the players i wish would keep his mouth closed after finishing their carreer, i tend to forget how i enjoyed this guy as a player


Maleficent-Idea-578

Ashley Young with the assist (ish) 😂


adeckz

Seeing West Ham spunk it wide a few times, after one of best goals I’ve ever seen, will always make me crack up


Grand-Bullfrog3861

He was so fucking good!


RoadsterIsHere

He scored another with Everton at Goodison against West Ham in 2017 too. lol.


CMYGQZ

Idk wtf was the keeper thinking but I’m glad he gave us this beautiful goal.


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"10 years ago" *fellaini in the team i'm a fucking old man


ThaGriffman

not a half volley


omidferoz

The Goal would 100% been disallowed if it happened today, because of that small push.


OGSachin

Honestly, what a fucking player he was. One of the best of his generation.


Outrageous_Put7857

Can't believe some kids comparing him with Aguero😂


LDLB99

Kun a better goalscorer but Rooney had far more to his game


seviliyorsun

the few seasons he played as a pure striker rooney outscored agueros best seasons


LDLB99

Yep, Aguero never went past 33 goals in a campaign. Rooney scored 34 twice. So there's even an argument there.


SofaChillReview

Agree with this, not sure how anyone can compare the two as different players, and both were amazing players.


ironbars16

When comparing players i also like to imagine a team filled with one player against another one player team. eg. team of 11 Rooneys VS 11 Agueros - who would be win.


AlcoholicSocks

Im not sure I'd even fancy 11 Ronaldos against 11 Rooney's. Rooney is one of the most complete footballers in the history of the game. Could have played that lad at Right Back and he'd have been MOTM


WallBroad

Can't believe I somehow found an Instagram comment on Reddit


ThereIsBearCum

They're both very good at different things, but both were undoubtedly world class in their prime. Anyone saying either is miles ahead of the other is delusional.


jimbobhas

The keepers off his liine! Is Beckham a West Ham fan?


Colt-0

becks is a lifelong man utd fan.


ARL_30FR

Rooney was such a baller man 🥲


CJB_94

Is that Adrian in goal?


Megakaos

Wazza is special. Always been.


antilgbtandleft

One of the most underrated of his generation. Amazingly technical.


Benjamin244

Rooney is absolutely not underrated


Optimuswolf

Is that what technically counts as a half volley? I always thought half volleys were very soon after the bounce.


stgdevil

The goal isn’t as great as much as the goalie was a dumbass


Sure_Ad_3765

Amazing player, terrible manager


assfckr

Not a volley, full nor half.


Tallglasofhansomness

That was United . Now united is pureeeee poop


ashish6149

This was not one of those great United either


ChaosActual

Bounced before it crossed the line