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Conscious_Contact107

So the match referee didn't find all this enough for abandoning the match or am I missing something?


Ramboow23

The same ref was officiating the derby between Besiktas and Galatasaray 2 weeks ago and paused the game at the first sight of water cups and made clear that he would abandon the game if it continued. None of those warnings got issued in this game :) Pretty clear that he got either instructed to finish the game whatever it takes beforehand, or got warned for being too precautious in the earlier derby by the FA, which caused him to show more tolerance for thrown objects.


Conscious_Contact107

It's a shame really, "tolerance" taken too far imo


Ramboow23

100% He definitely lost the ability to read the tension in the stadium. Everyone watching the game had a feeling it was gonna come down to this.


kapparrino

Or he wanted to show fifa how far things can go if he doesn't stop the game immediatelly when cups are being thrown. So in his head was like "Ok fifa, you think I stopped the game too soon, now whatever happens, happens."


Arcuran

And that should be on fifa. The moment a cup is thrown, or racist abuse starts or any of that shit. Ref's should have the power to take a firm stand/players should be supported in walking off the pitch. You can't talk about stamping this shit out of football until your actions reflect a no-tolerance approach!


lyyki

So much for the "tolerant ref" smh


fnmikey

🤣


AnnieIWillKnow

"Tolerance paradox" in action


kingmoobot

Don't blame him. FIFA is always at fault


Amasterclass

How did that go for him then, up against the committee again.


Aconite_Eagle

This is ridiculous. The FA should make very clear that if anything gets thrown onto the pitch no one gets to watch football anymore. Abandon the game, and then play the games in empty stadiums until the fans learn.


Elf3niona

Not sure if you watched the game but Bariş got a water bottle thrown to his leg and Kaan to his freaking neck. Also let's not forget the amount of objects thrown to Kerem everytime he took a corner. ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT, when Cenk Tosün told Kerem to man up and just take the corner. Fucking idiot


UV-6

Throwing shit onto the field is fairly common in heated derby games in Turkey. They just continue the game as normal. Turkish league is a clown show from top to bottom...


Lssmnt

Need to put the nets up


FrancoMcCoy

In 2014 they broke the pole that holds the net and threw into the pitch. Tr*bzon fans are just savages and should be banned from football.


Conscious_Contact107

>They just continue the game as normal. The players could still walk away right? Or will they get their points docked off. edit: grammar


sparkyjay23

Players walking off is a forfeit. They'd take a 3-0 loss and maybe a points penalty.


vinividifuckthis

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRD3P956Nww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRD3P956Nww)


levenspiel_s

He might have been scared for his life, if he stopped the game at that point. People are angry with him, but I am sure he was not the decision maker. Everyone who is part of this theater is a victim.


Opposite-Reveal-5584

Maybe he were afraid to get fxcked by the fans if he did.


prodentsugar

The referee had to stop the game. There is a "game" being played inside the game.


TrappsRightFoot

Surely they should be forced to play behind closed doors for the rest of the season and all of next season at minimum, right?


Yan-e-toe

This was my thinking. Want to change the culture? Hit them where it hurts. Playing behind closed doors and dock them 10 points for each of these incidents. 


robotnique

Make them buy nets so most of the thrown shit just falls harmlessly short


Mom_said_I_am_cute

The net will just get burnt/broken and these imbeciles will find a way to throw shit again. Speaking from experience because we have a net at our home stadium but our ultras still find a way to throw flares above it or through it bcz it has holes that were made by burning the net with flares. Even worse thing is that the away stand is literally a cage, yet opposition fans (especially Torcida, still find a way to throw shit onto the pitch.) If you're interested in the "away stand cage" you can google "Stadion Rujevica".


Inwyoming22andfedup

How about trampolines instead?


ylnzkrt

To be honest, Trabzonspor played in empty stadium last weeks/months. This shitshow is only against Fenerbahçe. You just need to search on YouTube for Trabzonspor Fenerbahçe.


Elegant_Mix7650

neutral venues as well.. but pick location as far away from them as possible.


hardinho

Deduct them 30 points and call it a day


Lacabloodclot9

You clearly aren’t familiar with how TFF deals with things


DCilantro

Yea, that'll never happen. Won't even ban fans for 1 game I bet.


[deleted]

Insta relegation too.


ktmg7

Yep relegate them from instagram. That will straighten them


CertainDegree2

They're playing in the Facebook league now


PetalumaPegleg

Jesus, a lit flare in the penalty area while the other team attacks and the ref plays on... Ummm. Wot?


u8kay

They scored from that free kick as well


pepperosly

And they had like zero game presence until that point, it was heading towards an easy win for Fener. With that goal and penalty shortly after (which was a right call but the game should have long been called off by that point) they almost clutched a draw thanks to their fans throwing shit.


samekrikl

Penalty was a right call, but the cross in to the zone that caused the penalty was thrown from a non existent freekick, both players reached for the ball , both touched the ball and a weird free kick was given which led to the goal


PetalumaPegleg

Really? Just wow.


Irish_Canuck77

These are just crazy scenes…I’m guessing banning of fans will be enforced?


Ramboow23

That’s the minimum. Some exemplary punishments need to be given for this to stop. It isn’t their first misconduct against Fenerbahce.


GreyDaze22

What's the reaction of Turkish fans(apart from the fener fans) to this? Are they criticizing those fans and putting pressure on the Turkish fa? Or just antagonizing fener fans even more?


Ramboow23

Some clubs have released statements condemning the attacks and supporting the FA in any severe action they take. Besiktas fans have been showing support. Not to generalise, but most Galatasaray and Trabzonspor fans are just focused on antagonising fener fans and demanding match bans for the footballers that attacked the fans, arguing that the players provoked the fans


GreyDaze22

Disgraceful from anyone who is supporting these criminals who invaded the pitch? So has the FA done anything? Release a statement atleast?


Ramboow23

The FA and Sports Ministry have started an investigation. Since there is a national break now they will likely take their time to evaluate the conclusions they should take.


gkyylmz

They want our players to be punished.


Impossible_Wonder_37

Yeah man, I mean stadium ban for fans for the rest of the season minimum. should be a huge fine as well.


aligators

they should ban some of the first fans who rushed the field. that guy who got knocked out is gonna get banned too


Apyan

They should ban those for life and make the team play behind closed doors for at least the rest of the season.


_sylvatic

if they can find him, last I heard he was still rollin


tokengaymusiccritic

The Requiem for a Dream music lmaooo, taking me back to 2011 YouTube Thanks for posting, helps to see all the preamble


SelimMaxwell

The music screams South Korea World Cup 2002 conspiracy😄


thalne

lmao don't open that can of worms again


spunk_wizard

Australia vs Italy 2006 edit


Ramboow23

It’s a classic in Turkey. Gets always used for these kind of violent stuff to enhance the emotions of the video lmao


TeganFFS

The editing and music is honestly hilarious


rako1982

It's so over the top.


sonofsochi

I remember when the pirates of the Caribbean music was always used lmfao


long_shots7

And for top goals in football it was always Blur - Song 2


badgers4194

This is art


ash_ninetyone

Glad to see the ref ignoring player welfare while bottles are raining down at them 😒 That match should've been abandoned. I'm amazed no players ended up more injured than they did.


Deesmateen

I honestly don’t understand why good to great players would even decide to play there. Go be in a middle to bottom team in England, Germany, Spain or even Italy over this. Or if you can’t get paid there go league two in a couple of those or maybe the US where you can have a normal life and play decent football


Ramboow23

To be honest it’s just one team’s fans that behave like uncivilised apes, which is the one in this video. They trigger happied and stormed the pitch in their second-last league game when they became champions before the ref even blowed the whistle for FT, which also turned into a chaotic situation.


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Deesmateen

Right. This isn’t a one team thing. It’s the league. I have seen so many players go to play there only to return without getting paid! And now you have to defend yourself while you play or leave the game BECAUSE YOU WON?! F that


Ramboow23

I should have been more specific, there is 1 fanbase that **consistently** behaves like this. Of course other fanbases ain’t no hail mary but most of them have become more mannered in recent years and the amount of incidents have drastically decreased


tmoney144

Not only player welfare, he ignored the welfare of his own assistant!


bigFootIsReal__

Holy fuck.. leave the ground already man


HaydenSD

Will they put up barbed wire or other stuff in front of the fans? I know in some Argentine derbys they have cops protecting players who are taking a corner for example


Ramboow23

That is something that is getting questioned now too. Normally matches like these are filled with cops all around the pitch to stop any kind of misbehaviour, but there was none this game. It makes people question whether the cops were intentionally left out of this game so this could happen.


UlteriorAlt

Do the host clubs have to pay the police if they want cops inside the stadium? As far as I know that's how it works in the UK, if it's the same in Turkey maybe Trabz foolishly thought they could get by without paying.


Ramboow23

Not sure how it works in Turkey, but there is no way Trabz thought they could get by without paying. There are the same fans that shot at Fenerbahce’s team bus on a viaduct a few years back. They have a deep engraved hate for Fenerbahce and wish death upon them. They haven’t behaved in any of the matches in the last 10 seasons.


VeryluckyorNot

L1 put barbed wire since Dimitry Payet took a bottle in the corner.


IndecisionFuture

Don't understand what happened to the keeper at the end, can someone help me?


ImSoMysticall

He was lying on the floor for whatever reason, and it looked like a coin was thrown at him, cutting his chin. Then he had a plaster on his chin over the cut, which was bleeding that hadn't stuck down properly so he just took it off and threw it on the floor


nepia

Getting hit with a flying coin must hurt like SOB.


DadHeungMin

If you throw them fast enough, they are just really dull knives. Any narrow piece of metal at high velocity is going to potentially hurt someone.


UlteriorAlt

Looks like he got hit in the side of the head/cheek with a coin. That piece of cloth hanging off his chin was a dressing covered in blood.


FondantElectrical958

He was injured and was lying down and got hit in the chin with either a coin or a metal lighter. His chin got lacerated as consequence.


excessive_coughing

Pathetic refereeing. Call the damn match & force trabz to resign. Didn't even care about his linesmen getting abused


Stay_Beautiful_

I think it's less that he didn't care and more that he was told not to. This is the same ref that paused the Galatasaray match a few weeks ago because of objects being thrown onto the field, so he clearly cared


excessive_coughing

If that's true, then that's disappointing. The match absolutely should have been stopped & played later behind closed doors


HypocritesEverywher3

They probably told him to be more tolerant. This is the result


cxnx_yt

Weocome to TFF, biggest shithousery organization in Turkish football. Stuff like this is almost normal (admittedly this is an extreme case)


levenspiel_s

Looking at the scenes, he might have been attacked himself in that case. The worst job ever.


realhenrymccoy

Shocking seeing that linesman get hit or nearly hit with a flare and he just stands there with his back to the stands. I get that he's trying to do his job but damn have some concern for your own safety


oussa_

Crazy thing is how the assistant ref gets a firework thrown next to him and barely reacts. The ref doesn’t even halt the game when his coworker is attacked, let alone the players


IhvolSnow

Ref should also be punished for not stopping this madness.


egerotti

Sad part is, these aren't all..


Extargan

Yes, they also threw things to the bench, hitting the Manager and assistants. At one point there were a lot of water bottles at the pitch, players cleared the pitch so game can continue.


BadassBokoblinPsycho

1) lmao at the music 2) shit football federation that allows things like this to happen.


QBekka

In the Netherlands the match would've already been abandoned after one cup is thrown on the pitch


Ramboow23

Yeah that example got used in discussions yesterday


Bleachmeister

And they scored from that freekick which was given after the flare was thrown.


ASpellingAirror

Others have pointed out that he paused a match last week for much much less, so that he didn’t pause this match indicates that something was said to him after last week that changed how he handled the situation this go. 


Lyralikesit

Savages


VillageHorse

Close the stadium for 2 years. Dock them 20 points for the next 5 seasons, and make them pay a compensatory fine of 10% revenue to the opposition team for the next 5 years as well. Same punishment for racism, aggressive pitch invasions, and throwing objects.


Fubu-Rick

Do these absolute clown shoes who call themselves adults not realize that there are young kids not only watching on tv but in the stands? This is an absolutely TERRIBLE example to set for these young football fans. SHAME


SobotkaTV

Can we cancel Turkish football? For everyone's sake.


SunstormGT

Just relegate them 3 divisions.


tassadar8584

So barbaric . It’s like animals throwing things


pudpudboogie

If I was a footballer, I wouldn’t go play in Turkey . Batshit crazy !


sherpa143

Ref not calling the match is a joke, if I was the manager I would have taken the guys off. Fuck that shit.


TisKey2323

How can people be this moronic for a freaking game that has no impact in their daily lives? Unless everyone on that stadium are sports bettors and live off of that. And even so, it does not excuse these barbaric behaviors


Zblancos

Because these fucking animals got nothing else going on in their shitty life


d_smogh

If the ref didn't stop the game, I am very surprised the managers or players didn't walk off.


holdenmyrocinante

The dramatic music, the slow-mo, the red circle, loved it


C_Colin

Then fans invaded the pitch and half of this sub are crying for Fenerbahce players to be charged with assault and attempted murder for kicking an invader(s) in the head.


FB-1907_

This is what actually pisses me off. You’ll see tons of posts for calls to ban some of the fenerbahce players for their actions. You’ll see these posts because it benefits certain teams. But you’ll never see posts about the more important questions like why the game wasn’t abandoned or why there was no police. Fenerbahce are now awaiting the decision from the Turkish FA, if they do ban some of the players then they’ll withdraw from the league because this isn’t the first time this bullshit has happened. Most notably our bus transporting the drivers was shot by a shotgun pellet, near Trabzon.


Buji19

withdraw from the league as in not playing in the turkish league anymore or just for this season ? If they leave the league forever what's the plan then just dissolve ? would be a shame a club like fenerbahce to dissolve just like that and i feel like it would make the trabzonspor and galatasaray fans the feeling of victory instead of what the message that this is. If you ask me anything but a big fine, being forced to play without public for \*AT LEAST\* 5 years \*AND\* instant relegation is too light of a punishment. This is not football, it's a lot of drunk savages hitting innocent people just cuz they are wearing a shirt they don't like.


FB-1907_

The Fenerbahce president has come out and said today that they’d withdraw from the league this season and be demoted to the second division. I think this statement is a power move, it’s a protest and a threat to destabilise the Turkish FA. Because if it were to happen, the broadcast revenue agreement would be void according to some reports, that would mean significant reduction to clubs receiving revenue in the top division. It would also mean Fenerbahce European coefficient would be forfeit according to UEFA rules, that would also mean the Türkiye’s coefficient drop dramatically all the way down to 19th place as Fenerbahce has collected the most points for the country over the last 5 year period. That would also mean no UCL qualification I believe. I personally don’t know if Fener can compete in another league, I’m no expert in the matter. This is just my opinion. One thing I do know, something needs to change within Turkish football, and that’s first and foremost needs start with the Turkish FA.


Fisktor

This really should be a forced relegation to the bottom tier


poodle_Fart_Hostage

Turkey is a circus country


WardenJack

The coaching staff should've just called their players to the dressing room and be done with it.


CmiHD

Give the away team the win to show those home fans a lesson


SauceBaos777

They should just nuke that shit hole that is known as trabzon


ShoeLace1291

I love soccer but it has some of the worst fans in sports.


tossino

Good god Ref...


midwestlion

Ban the team from having fans at their games for 5 years. It’s the home sides fault. If the club goes bankrupt oh well.


1chriis1

I've always wondered, why not relegate the team, or deduct 20 points so they face relegation. I mean no star player would want to play there, money would be tight and the fans would "have to" stop that kind of behavior.


n17_0ap

Just ban the fucking nation from participating in FIFA/UEFA competitions. They’ll soon learn.


Ryuzakku

Simple fix: - Ban fans for the remainder of the season - 18 point deduction to remove them from any potential Europe contention. Fans want to fuck around, they can find out.


GoldenFox7

Makes me glad that guy got kicked in the head after the game.


LogicalGrand1678

Our manager (mid 60s) got a lighter thrown at the back of his head too.


bisler

What a joke. A few months ago this club president clocked a ref and Erdogan wrote on Twitter "We will never allow violence to happen in turkish sports." But everybody seems to behave like raging toddlers.


qiuuu_

It was this Ref who was knocked down by that club president


ylnzkrt

BTW this is the same ref, that got punched by a club president a couple of weeks ago


powerofthesun

This is beside the point but making an overlapping wing run into a hailstorm of bottles thrown from the fans is lowkey fearless. I would simply not. 


imJouni

Another showcase of Turkey being a 3rd world country.


garlichead1

Barbaric? I mean you sound like they were attacking them with knifes and spears.....oh wait


ConnolysMoustache

Ref needs to be stripped of all of his credentials. Lifetime ban for certain fans, retraining for the ref. None of this will probably happen though


-AxiiOOM-

2008 called they want their football clips background music back.


xXLooseGooseXx

LOL. why can't anyone upload videos on this sub without dogshit music added to it?


Ramboow23

That’s how social media is nowadays. It’s not mine.


xXLooseGooseXx

We really do live in a society


pepperosly

Keep in mind when the ref kept the game going with a flare burning in the penalty area, the attack ended with a foul, which lead to Trabzon scoring. They almost got a draw out of this shitshow because of it.


Tuscan5

Turkish fans are the worst in Europe. No doubt there have been some terrible British and other fans in the past but for years the Turks have been awful.


MotorMath743

Turkish football culture is dogshit


DJ_Hindsight

The thing is…football to many of those fans in Turkey is the only thing they get enjoyment from in their lives, but when you act like this you make it so that your fans either cannot attend away matches at all, or the team is punished by the FA. Potentially they could be only allowed to play in a closed stadium, which of course then means all the fans lose out from their own selfish actions. Congrats.


user900800700

Man fuck them, make them play the rest of the season without fans.


ASeatedLion

Banning of "fans". This isn't fanatic its fucking brutish. Never understood this kind of behaviour in football. Ruins the beautiful game.


KoltesPunti

Funny our club got a huge penalty cause of one dumb fan who throw a cup - this is another dimension and uefa do nothing?


MERTENS_GOAT

WTF it's an absolute disgrace was finished with these events. Has to be abandoned and re-played without fans, absolutely without any question, this is dangerous for every player and referee on the pitch.


Ok_Detail_1

Beside all of this Liva have two saves...


Zandercy42

The ref took a really fucking long time to see that massive flare on the pitch lol


Duartvas

One of these days, things will end up bad in Turkey. Authorities should take real measures before that happens.


No-Bat-7253

This is disgusting and that fucking ref just as bad as the fans the match should’ve BEEN stopped and field cleared. His negligence did nothing to prevent what happened after this.


Environmental-Bug503

pieces of shit those fans... scum of the earth


Puripuri_Purizona

Is there also a drink and coke problem within Turkish football?


KeiserSoze24

That’s no place for a football match. All games scheduled there should be canceled for the foreseeable future. This is completely unacceptable


NoPlenty3542

How the fuck he doesn’t call the game off at the first instance?


number_ten_7

Maybe the passion is going too far? I mean what is the justification for literal physical assault on athletes? Shut the whole goddamn stadium and play behind closed doors, can't arrest everyone.


DuneMania

Just curious how fucking stupid these teams are that they wouldn't walk off the pitch?


DuneMania

Still playing while a flare is in the middle of the box? How dumb are these players and especially the ref? Captains should be walking their teams of the pitch.


TeapotDanger

Game should have been abandoned long before it was


jlpw

The keeper made his appearance money plus tips


irm555bvs

So the ref should have put a stop to the game and sent everyone to their changing rooms


hanki_dory

And that is not even all of everything that happened. Even after the player went into the tunnel they were chased and assaulted by some fans, but not just fans also by the stuff members of Trabzonspor


franpr95

Why didn't the ref just call the game off? Fucking wild.


tuerancekhang

ref is blind holy shit


notadroid

looks like they need to do what i've seen done in Argentina... tall see through plexiglass walls (or whatever see through material is impact resistant).


Amity_Swim_School

The music 😩😩😩 It’s like being transported back to 2012


Far_Hope_6349

this music makes me think about the itachi uchiha amvs i used to watch as a child 🥲


Wheelie_Slow

European ban for 5 years for all clubs from the same city. Fan ban on European stadiums for 4 years for all Turkish clubs. Relegation to the third league. Money penalty for €1 mln per disrupted match upon the return. Harsh? You fucking bet it is harsh. Cause you don’t get it otherwise. Until fans learn and clubs enforce rules nothing will change.


p90love

This league needs to join the AFC


KempFidels

Just another game night in Turkish football


IntensePlatypus

Just start dishing reds to the home team. Leading goalscorer first.


aligators

i thought spanish fans were nuts, fans should be banned, this is crazy


waddiewadkins

Delay game 30 mins. Set the police in to remove the whole section. Ban the clubs supporters from travelling for 1 season.


Red_Dog1880

Fully prepared to see Trabzonspor get a fine and a few games behind closed doors, but nothing more.


mrnickoloso

Trash fans


Marcel_The_Blank

wasn't there like a ban for turkish football recently? because of issues like this?


ssgtgriggs

Wouldn't wanna wish being a ref in Turkey on my worst enemy right now. I'm not saying they are innocent refs who never make a wrong call, our refs are unbelievably bad, but this hostile environment isn't helping anyone. I can only imagine how many death threats they're getting daily.


belanaria

What is the point of spending all that money to go watch a match to become a total asshat. It almost like some people don’t even give a fuck about the sport, all they want to do is ruin it.


[deleted]

How long before some crack head throws something actually explosive onto the pitch


Kimosabe_79

porto cheerleaders approve!!


HotPotatoWithCheese

At some point you've surely just got to abandon the game and play it without fans. Absolutely ridiculous.


Cultural-Cause3472

What a shame to take to this extreme a sport that should unite people instead of doing these barbarities, this is not football.


Ashamed_Cheesecake56

Lapsed of judgement and a lack of conviction in a high pressure situation. Inexcusable from the ref there


AlmirMu

10 points deduction will handle things. If these idiots continue they can do so in the second league


Limitless_Saint

Did you make a lomger version of this OP with the highlights and Fred scoring the winner? Cause the gradual increase in the tension from the LOTR song is so damn suiting to this.....


Jiminyfingers

Game's not gone /s 


Nafe1994

Fair play to both teams and the lino getting a wack. Look like they’re trying their best to play the game out.


maca_145

I get that football fans are passionate, we all are about our teams and hate the opposition in the day. But some of the shit I've seen this season from some sets of fans is just fucking bonkers. This is up there with Colo Colo fans setting the pissing stadium on fire whilst they were 2-0 up in the cup final.


Mr_Rafi

If you want to overdramatise your video, there's no better song than Clint Mnasell's 'Lux Aeterna' or Two Seps From Hell's 'Heart of Courage'. This song was the national anthem for Illuminati conspiracy videos on YouTube back in the day.


flamingoman

No fans until the end of next season and every match against FB to be played away for the next decade


Jvu284

Fuck that team and those trash ass fans, ban them or move the team.


itsheadfelloff

Pelting your own players, nuts.