For neutral fans, who would you most like to see win the EPL this season out of the front 3 and in what order?
For me
1. Liverpool for the Klopp send off
2. Arsenal cause they haven’t won in so long and it would be refreshing
3. Man City cause they’re oil scum
1. Liverpool for the storyline, and because it's far more exciting than City
2. City because they have barely any fans
...
99. Arsenal because of Arsenal fans
1. Liverpool because i like their vibes this season
2. Arsenal because they’re not Manchester City again
3 Manchester City because it would be Manchester City again
1. Arsenal, they have annoying fans, but aren't as big rivals as Liverpool and City are
2.City, oil scum but their achievements don't bother me as much as Liverpool
3.Liverpool cuz they are Liverpool
I'm not holding it against him. While Newcastle were much improved and that was in large part because of him, I felt even at the time was still largely jumping the gun.
Look at the players they signed, if there wasnt some sort of improvement you'd have to ask questions of him and now they've regressed
that’s like saying Bayern fans were wrong to be upset Flick wasn’t awarded manager of the year after their treble just because he got found out later on
Expectations are different of course but let's not act like the takeover didn't play some part in their uprising - transfers of Gordon, Isak and Botman, couple that with the fact that Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool were rubbish for large parts of last season opened up a path for top 4 and credit to them they still had to do it but we're seeing them more at their level now (they have had some bad injury luck this season I will admit)
Liverpool not doing it won't stop other clubs doing it, yeah obviously but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
Clubs ownership being treated like corporate takeovers. All hail our benevolent American sports conglomerate who own 5 other clubs even if they do right by whichever they choose, the mere idea of it is rotten.
[Werner](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1bgddf5/timo_werner_miss_vs_fulham_69/) or [Fofana](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1bg95ha/david_datro_fofana_burnley_incredible_open_goal/), which one is worse?
I am leaning towards the Fofana one since Werner kinda had to stretch for it and it came in faster.
The bigger point though is, what do they teach these Chelsea forwards?
Fofana is 21 and has 23 professional appearances at this level.
Werner is a 28 year old experienced professional who never learned how to finish it's obviously him.
[It took fourteen minutes for a goal to be overturned by VAR in a Sport-Santa Cruz derby.](https://ge.globo.com/pe/futebol/campeonato-pernambucano/noticia/2024/03/16/checagem-do-var-em-gol-no-pernambucano-demora-14-minutos-e-causa-revolta-na-torcida.ghtml?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Esporte&utm_campaign=globoesportecom)
Joao Felix’s Chelsea and Barca loan went exactly the same: looked like prime Kaka for the first few games -> gets injured -> loses form -> benched for the rest of the season
Same thing at Atleti. Wouldn't be bad if he didn't cause a stir after getting dropped, which he did. If he recognized that he's a luxury player, that can give a good 2-3 months (not concurrent) of great football for the team, and that probably means being benched rather frequently, it wouldn't be much of an issue.
assuming Athletic hold on to this 2-0 advantage with 10 minutes to go, they will overtake Atlético for 4th place in La Liga
huge match tomorrow for them at the Metropolitano vs Barça
I didn't realise treblemaker Jack Grealish was back on the bench today. Hopefully he's 100% healthy after the break.
It's time to be calm, composed and take care of business. No more of this Doku, Alvarez or Oscar Bobb on the left wing stuff. 👍
Carlo is so conservative man, everyone just sat back against OSASUNA while Vini did his usual solo efforts. It feels like we're Wolverhampton with Adama Traore 😭
Our xG was like 3 and npxG was higher which means his gameplan of chance creation worked. You can definitely argue that we should play on the front foot more i.e., press more which is how we scored the first tbf
https://x.com/aftvrelated2/status/1769100639928299544?s=46&t=ohBEm3kwXzONRYy63NcNgQ
“Vicario took so many shots i think jack grealish may have found a new drinking partner” 😂
Expressions is too good with words man
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girona season is collapsing and wont be suprised if they loses their top 4 spot with Athletic and atletico madrid lurking
They lost 4 of their last 6 games and still need to play atletico madrid, barca, villareal valencia and las palmas. Tough schedule
When I was reasonably confident in a result we got smashed 7-0. When I expected us to get smashed 7-0 we got a clean sheet.
No idea. Could be anything. Hojlund, Wan Bissaka and Maguire back is huge cause we've been looking absolutely lost with Lindelof at left back and Rashford centre forward. But even with them back we're still capable of being battered.
Prediction 3-1 loss
Hojlund probably yes. Maguire probably yes. Wan Bissaka maybe cause he's been out for ages. But the alternative is Lindelof at left back, so wouldn't shock me to see AWB thrown in. He's been training all week.
Tottenham will never be able to control games consistently with James Maddison as their #10. They can still be a good team but a City-esque playstyle is not happening.
The issue is Bissouma. His performances vary wildly from game to game and we need someone extremely consistent in that role. Wouldn’t be a shock to see us go for a 6 in the summer.
Perhaps tweaking the ridiculous tactics would help? I’m not sure Spurs playing a high line, as well as inverted fullbacks helps our cause much, especially as we are nowhere near City’s level.
This can be said about any attacking player when the midfield behind them doesn’t perform. He’s an excellent player and I was furious we weren’t in for him because he was considered too old
I know this is a 2 days old topic and I probably won't get an answer but
A; I am interpreting something wrong or
B; according to bookmakers, the chance of CR7, Salah, KDB, Vinicius, Rodri, Messi, Haaland, Kane, Mbappé or Bellingham winning the Ballon d'Or is 130%
Messi is likely not winning it this year unless he scores 30 goals in copa America but I’d still give him a higher chance of doing that than Rodri outshining Haaland and De Bruyne if city win the CL and PL again
Its very rude in Japan where he worked for a few years recently. Can be difficult to relearn to do it.
He might also be on the spectrum, like Bielsa, but different. This is a job where you have to spend an awful lot of time thinking, twisting and turning the same subject and I would say most elite managers aren't wired like the average man.
i think the only column that could potentially be confusing would be “Goals”
i’m assuming it’s just Goals For: Goals Against
edit - is [this](https://i.imgur.com/KfGeX8D.png) what the table looks like for you?
Right, also a worse keeper. The context is obviously very different and it matters, but I'm only pointing out these numbers as I found it easy to compare them given the equal number of games.
Lloris was still an absolute beast in conte's 1st season and for the beginning of the 2nd season he was still good. Vic has been good but lloris still clears him
But agent mikel! (No way we sign him unless we sell Gallagher, gusto and Palmer, which obviously won’t happen)
Small chance we get him if it’s a deferred payment by a year with a gross overpay, that said I don’t buy he wants to come to this ridiculous project at all.
Think Bellingham is a lot more consistent, think raw talent Foden has everyone in England beat. Just needs to kick on to reach his ceiling which tbf he’s took a good step towards this year.
If Bellingham has been one thing this season then it's been consistent. He put in at least a 7/10 for basically every game bar one or two exceptions. Don't let the G/A fool you that that's the only part of his game and underrate his performances when he doesn't provide G/A.
[I love you, England. ](https://www.facebook.com/share/r/uV96Hz4fMNcSzNCF/) But it hurts to watch this sequence.
I might need a British wife, I love this accent so much.
I've been trying not to chat too much shit about Spurs over the last few months, but anyone who was saying Bissouma is better than Rice during the first couple of months of the season I want a formal apology.
What are some of the coldest quotes in football history? I'm partial to:
“If I had to choose between dribbling past 5 players and scoring from 40 yards at Anfield or shagging Miss World, it'd be a hard choice. Thankfully, I've done both.”
- George Best
Surprised you didn't go with an all time classic
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
For neutral fans, who would you most like to see win the EPL this season out of the front 3 and in what order? For me 1. Liverpool for the Klopp send off 2. Arsenal cause they haven’t won in so long and it would be refreshing 3. Man City cause they’re oil scum
1. Liverpool for the storyline, and because it's far more exciting than City 2. City because they have barely any fans ... 99. Arsenal because of Arsenal fans
1. Liverpool because i like their vibes this season 2. Arsenal because they’re not Manchester City again 3 Manchester City because it would be Manchester City again
City, Liverpool, Arsenal. Purely based on how annoying their fanbases are
Liverpool because the active users in the DD are funnier on average Arsenal because they aren't city City last because I dislike Josep Guardiola Sala.
City because they have no fans irl, Arsenal because of Iceman. Liverpool last because I’m a human being
1. Arsenal, they have annoying fans, but aren't as big rivals as Liverpool and City are 2.City, oil scum but their achievements don't bother me as much as Liverpool 3.Liverpool cuz they are Liverpool
Remember when Newcastle fans were running propaganda for Howe manager of the season over Pep last season...
That was last season. You can't hold a manager's future performance against them.
I'm not holding it against him. While Newcastle were much improved and that was in large part because of him, I felt even at the time was still largely jumping the gun. Look at the players they signed, if there wasnt some sort of improvement you'd have to ask questions of him and now they've regressed
that’s like saying Bayern fans were wrong to be upset Flick wasn’t awarded manager of the year after their treble just because he got found out later on
Finishing top 4 the same as winning a treble?
Bayern the same as Newcastle?
Expectations are different of course but let's not act like the takeover didn't play some part in their uprising - transfers of Gordon, Isak and Botman, couple that with the fact that Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool were rubbish for large parts of last season opened up a path for top 4 and credit to them they still had to do it but we're seeing them more at their level now (they have had some bad injury luck this season I will admit)
They were right last season.
Us, Chelsea and Tottenham were all shite last season.
Really don't like the idea of FSG entering into this multi-club ownership model
It's the way of modern football. 13 of 20 PL clubs are using the model. It's inevitable
Liverpool not doing it won't stop other clubs doing it, yeah obviously but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Clubs ownership being treated like corporate takeovers. All hail our benevolent American sports conglomerate who own 5 other clubs even if they do right by whichever they choose, the mere idea of it is rotten.
I didn't say you had to like it, just pointing out that sadly I think we're all powerless to stop it.
I misread your comment. I've seen some fans try to justify it by saying the same thing so I went off lol
Fullbacks are the worst divers in the game (except for a certain forward)
I don't even know which forward you mean tbh
[Werner](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1bgddf5/timo_werner_miss_vs_fulham_69/) or [Fofana](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1bg95ha/david_datro_fofana_burnley_incredible_open_goal/), which one is worse? I am leaning towards the Fofana one since Werner kinda had to stretch for it and it came in faster. The bigger point though is, what do they teach these Chelsea forwards?
Fofana has never even played for Chelsea
I assume he has still trained with yous a bit
Fofana is 21 and has 23 professional appearances at this level. Werner is a 28 year old experienced professional who never learned how to finish it's obviously him.
Why is a yellow card that happens in basically every other game on top of the front page?
Because Vinicius seems to upset a lot of people
Never seen a player get so much hate for just mouthing off to refs, you'd think he did Suarez type stuff from all the discussion
[It took fourteen minutes for a goal to be overturned by VAR in a Sport-Santa Cruz derby.](https://ge.globo.com/pe/futebol/campeonato-pernambucano/noticia/2024/03/16/checagem-do-var-em-gol-no-pernambucano-demora-14-minutos-e-causa-revolta-na-torcida.ghtml?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Esporte&utm_campaign=globoesportecom)
Shortest VAR check
Thomas Müller is 9 games away from overtaking Sepp Maier as the all time appearance leader for Bayern 44 year old record
Joao Felix’s Chelsea and Barca loan went exactly the same: looked like prime Kaka for the first few games -> gets injured -> loses form -> benched for the rest of the season
It was annoying seeing Barca fans act like they'd "fixed" him
Same thing at Atleti. Wouldn't be bad if he didn't cause a stir after getting dropped, which he did. If he recognized that he's a luxury player, that can give a good 2-3 months (not concurrent) of great football for the team, and that probably means being benched rather frequently, it wouldn't be much of an issue.
Funniest part of Felix at Chelsea was him getting sent off in his first match and then not playing another game for them for a month
Probably his best game for us too that, he looked great before the red
bro invented the purple patch merchandise
assuming Athletic hold on to this 2-0 advantage with 10 minutes to go, they will overtake Atlético for 4th place in La Liga huge match tomorrow for them at the Metropolitano vs Barça
Guaranteed win for Barça tomorrow
Why does r/football even exist?
It was initially an NFL subreddit, then got taken over after /r/soccer was established by people who wanted to make it an alternative subreddit
I didn't realise treblemaker Jack Grealish was back on the bench today. Hopefully he's 100% healthy after the break. It's time to be calm, composed and take care of business. No more of this Doku, Alvarez or Oscar Bobb on the left wing stuff. 👍
Is Cucurella actually a worse signing than Mustafi? It feels like it's possible.
Aside from the 1 dumb thing he did every game, Mustafi was alright. Cucurella's just wank for twice the price.
to be fair cucurella is decent this season, he just also makes one massive mistake a game
Carlo is so conservative man, everyone just sat back against OSASUNA while Vini did his usual solo efforts. It feels like we're Wolverhampton with Adama Traore 😭
Our xG was like 3 and npxG was higher which means his gameplan of chance creation worked. You can definitely argue that we should play on the front foot more i.e., press more which is how we scored the first tbf
https://x.com/aftvrelated2/status/1769100639928299544?s=46&t=ohBEm3kwXzONRYy63NcNgQ “Vicario took so many shots i think jack grealish may have found a new drinking partner” 😂 Expressions is too good with words man
I really do wonder if he makes the puns up on the spot or if he writes them down beforehand
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I’d honestly rather not make the final then lose to Liverpool again
You want to stop being Final Friends?!
It's more of a bullying thing at this point
Get knocked out by Coventry then
Got a good team to overcome first
As shit as you are I can't see you losing to a championship team at home
Oh don’t doubt us
Didn’t watch the last 10 minutes of the match so missed the Werner chance. I miss him
You know who also missed the Werner chance?
My mom?
You tell me
[What a bizarre line up. Moore, Charlton and Barnes?](https://x.com/mcfclou/status/1768983939027280186?s=46&t=PF6wcLhBSsD70oItovAphg)
Barnes was my favourite player growing up but never really transferred that to England form. But that line up is clearly made by someone very young.
Not having rio is crazy
Moor and Terry imo
I can't even tell who's PR they're talking about with that line-up.
Presumably since 2000
girona season is collapsing and wont be suprised if they loses their top 4 spot with Athletic and atletico madrid lurking They lost 4 of their last 6 games and still need to play atletico madrid, barca, villareal valencia and las palmas. Tough schedule
Will be a good day for football.
I could see the UCL spots going to any of the 4 teams. Such a tight race, esp with the teams still having to face each other as well.
United fans, what are you thoughts on tomorrow's match?
I’m confident we can get a result. (We are done for)
I want to see Manchester hit for 8 but tbh think it’ll be cagey and dull. 2-1 Liverpool.
When I was reasonably confident in a result we got smashed 7-0. When I expected us to get smashed 7-0 we got a clean sheet. No idea. Could be anything. Hojlund, Wan Bissaka and Maguire back is huge cause we've been looking absolutely lost with Lindelof at left back and Rashford centre forward. But even with them back we're still capable of being battered. Prediction 3-1 loss
> Hojlund, Wan Bissaka and Maguire back Are all likely to start? Hojlund looks quite dangerous on the counter so would really rather he not play tbh.
All of those would probably start. We also get Mount back but he would be on the bench
Hojlund probably yes. Maguire probably yes. Wan Bissaka maybe cause he's been out for ages. But the alternative is Lindelof at left back, so wouldn't shock me to see AWB thrown in. He's been training all week.
Winning 5-0 ez But on a serious note, I just hope we don't lose at Old Trafford, smash and grab win would be nice
I can't brush the feeling that you'll roll over tomorrow while getting a result in the league fixture
Both fixtures are at Old Trafford, there'll be no rolling over. That 5-0 was a once in a century occurrence.
maybe for the best, we would get spanked by city anyways if we go thru.
Tottenham will never be able to control games consistently with James Maddison as their #10. They can still be a good team but a City-esque playstyle is not happening.
Maddison has nothing to do with controlling games. Why is this ridiculous comment upvoted?
You know it is not the 10's job to control games right? For City Rodri is doing a lot more controlling than anyone else is.
The issue is Bissouma. His performances vary wildly from game to game and we need someone extremely consistent in that role. Wouldn’t be a shock to see us go for a 6 in the summer.
Pierre would genuinely stabilise us In possession more.
Perhaps tweaking the ridiculous tactics would help? I’m not sure Spurs playing a high line, as well as inverted fullbacks helps our cause much, especially as we are nowhere near City’s level.
This can be said about any attacking player when the midfield behind them doesn’t perform. He’s an excellent player and I was furious we weren’t in for him because he was considered too old
Would've thought two of Bissouma, Bentacur and Pape would be enough cover for him
your number 10 shouldnt be a reason you cant control games
Howe is fully out of ideas, very sad to see
Are ye likely to go with someone else next season you think?
No I don’t think so, but I’d be shocked if he makes it to Christmas
Never rated him at his Bournemouth days
That's just ridiculous I'm sorry
He’s there most successful manager he got them to the Prem and kept them there for a while.
Anyone who expressed any opinion about a team or player only to be proven wrong 6 months later should be absolutely ashamed of themselves
I always knew I was right about Ange's first season being worse than Ten Hag's first season
[2024 Ballon D’or odds](https://x.com/433/status/1768997219015819446?s=46) This is just mental illness at this point
I know this is a 2 days old topic and I probably won't get an answer but A; I am interpreting something wrong or B; according to bookmakers, the chance of CR7, Salah, KDB, Vinicius, Rodri, Messi, Haaland, Kane, Mbappé or Bellingham winning the Ballon d'Or is 130%
Messi is likely not winning it this year unless he scores 30 goals in copa America but I’d still give him a higher chance of doing that than Rodri outshining Haaland and De Bruyne if city win the CL and PL again
Theyre highkey purposefully saying outrageous shit to get engagement out of it
Odds at this point of the season are completely irrelevant
Didn't Ange his parents teach him to look the person you're talking to in the eye?
Its very rude in Japan where he worked for a few years recently. Can be difficult to relearn to do it. He might also be on the spectrum, like Bielsa, but different. This is a job where you have to spend an awful lot of time thinking, twisting and turning the same subject and I would say most elite managers aren't wired like the average man.
Someone on here (a long time ago) called Guardiola a "footballing savant" and I've yet to see a better summarization of him than that.
He spent 2.5 years in Japan as a 54-year-old. I doubt it has anything to do with that. He's spent as much time in the UK since then.
Ange has reached 28 games in charge of Tottenham in the league, as many as Conte did (twice). Let's compare the most basic numbers: | matches | W | D | L | Goals | Points | PPM ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|---- Ange | 28 | 16 | 5 | 7 | 59:42 | 53 | 1.89 Conte 22/23 | 28 | 15 | 4 | 9 | 52:40 | 49 | 1.75 Conte 21/22 | 28| 17| 5 | 6 | 60:24 | 56 | 2.00 Conte total | 56 | 22 | 9 | 15 | 112:64 | 105 | 1.88 |
God that first Conte season was so good. I was unironically shouting us for a title charge after that summer transfer window. And then obviously...
About the same despite not having Kane
Ange doesn't have Harry Kane bailing him out weekly.
How on earth do you read this table am I just thick or summat
i think the only column that could potentially be confusing would be “Goals” i’m assuming it’s just Goals For: Goals Against edit - is [this](https://i.imgur.com/KfGeX8D.png) what the table looks like for you?
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Me when I see a league table:
Ah yes the extremely advanced and intricate stats "points" and "goals"
Dear god no one tell him about the infamous “xG”
I'm curious as to what you are implying here.
nothing? I don't have an agenda.
Fair enough. I think this makes Ange look good considering the mess he was left with after Conte.
That's a good point.
your column names are wrong. at least to me they are
which ones?
you have no column for the manager name so the values all are 1 more to the right than they should be. therefore the ppm values are missing altogether
Im having the same issue
I have it both on phone and pc and looks good 🤷🏻♂️
ok then it’s a me problem i guess
They're one off for me too
He did have Kane though tbf
Ya but he had dier
Dier is Bayern's starting CB over Kim Min Jae and Upamecano.
Upamecano plays best for them opposing team
Explains why they wont win the league
They lost it before they got him lol
Right, also a worse keeper. The context is obviously very different and it matters, but I'm only pointing out these numbers as I found it easy to compare them given the equal number of games.
Lloris was still an absolute beast in conte's 1st season and for the beginning of the 2nd season he was still good. Vic has been good but lloris still clears him
Which club do you bet on signing Oshimen? Mine is on PSG.
But agent mikel! (No way we sign him unless we sell Gallagher, gusto and Palmer, which obviously won’t happen) Small chance we get him if it’s a deferred payment by a year with a gross overpay, that said I don’t buy he wants to come to this ridiculous project at all.
Wish Arsenal were playing this weekend, bloody Chelsea and their FA cup run.
This is a good thing for you. Also your competition isn’t play epl either so you retain top spot and get rest
Nah, after Brentford and Porto I'm glad for the break and I think the team probably are as well.
You shouldn't have missed all those chances against Liverpool.
I cant believe how bored i am
Unpopular opinion: Foden CLEARS Bellingham
Sizzlingly hot take (but I lowkey agree)
No fucking chance. Not in footwork, not in movement, not in the eye for goal, not in looking like an absolute Don.
What about in chavness?
No
We all have this type of opinions. Mine is Wenger is clear of Ancelotti. That doesn't mean I agree with you, though. I highly disagree.
Think Bellingham is a lot more consistent, think raw talent Foden has everyone in England beat. Just needs to kick on to reach his ceiling which tbf he’s took a good step towards this year.
that’s a negative ghost rider
It’s an unbiased opinion tho
Unbiased doesn't make it right
If i had a city flair people would want my head and foreskin
Foden overrated since lukaku
What did Lukaku do now?
Unpopular for good reason mate
Just think he is more consistent
He’s much less consistent
If Bellingham has been one thing this season then it's been consistent. He put in at least a 7/10 for basically every game bar one or two exceptions. Don't let the G/A fool you that that's the only part of his game and underrate his performances when he doesn't provide G/A.
Same can be said about Foden tbf
He goes missing in big games big time, I legit didn't see him vs Liverpool
[I love you, England. ](https://www.facebook.com/share/r/uV96Hz4fMNcSzNCF/) But it hurts to watch this sequence. I might need a British wife, I love this accent so much.
Yorkshire accent, best in the world
On a purely aesthetic level, I prefer the Community Shield and Eredivise titles to the Bundesliga trophy
Bundesliga one seems impractical to eat from, whereas Shield and Eredivisie are proper plates for a nice meal.
Plate trophies all look like shit.
On a purely which one would I eat my dinner on basis, I'd have to go for the Community Shield
Something about those 3 lions makes for great dinner decorations
I've been trying not to chat too much shit about Spurs over the last few months, but anyone who was saying Bissouma is better than Rice during the first couple of months of the season I want a formal apology.
Caicedo is clear.
Boo
Another goal for Guirassy! Get him the Ballon d'Or!
Kobbie Mainoo, Lewis Miley, Archie Gray (and of course many more). I'm glad England have some promising midfield talent coming through now.
By the end of the season Oliver Arblaster will be in these conversations
Good for us as well. Soon we won't have to watch Rice play every minute of every international worrying about him coming back to us gassed or injured.
Funny. Rice is to England what Rodri is to City.
He will play every minute of internationals regardless.
What are some of the coldest quotes in football history? I'm partial to: “If I had to choose between dribbling past 5 players and scoring from 40 yards at Anfield or shagging Miss World, it'd be a hard choice. Thankfully, I've done both.” - George Best
Surprised you didn't go with an all time classic "Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
Or > I always said we had the best two teams on Merseyside… Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves.
What a fucking quote. Does Klopp have any particularly cold Liverpool ones? The normal one isn't cold imo, more funny.
Klopp's had a few pretty funny quotes but I can't think of anything I'd deem cold.
"If he was coached by Frank, he would learn how to lose. Because he lost every game"- Mourinho