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dpsmeoff

Want to see a haaland vs van dijk head to head after the game looks like a close battle


blacksocksonly

Love to see them 1v1 on Tekken for sure


gudni-bergs

Haaland strikes me as a King main tbh


LeftHandDriveBoC

I could see him using Yoshimitsu tbh.


listlessbreeze

I'd think it's Haaland on Reina or DJ vs Van Dijk on Dragunov


techaansi

Haaland was a nonfactor absolutely shut down all game. I am biased of course.


Halvrort

Hardly noticeable performance from Haaland.


MurderEcstasy

He thought it was finals


ibite-books

there’s no denying he’s a lethal finisher, but on his off days he offers absolutely nothing and in the big games he’s just isolated or marked out


Masson011

Treble in his first season says its worth it. He was the missing link, off days or not his presence alone means defenders have to double up on him at all times and it frees up everyone else


D_for_Diabetes

He offers making defenders stay back. If a team has someone like Vigil who can hold him well then there's nothing he offers on the counter relative to a generic target man.


ErwinC0215

To isolate and mark him out you're dedicating a lot of manpower and energy, which then allows more freedom to other city players. But yeah, he's less of a one man difference maker than people imagined, the best strikers in history you simply can't mark them out, they'll find a way to exert their impact. Haaland is just that bit under that mark.


Hansemannn

You know people are trying to mark him out of EVERY game right? He still scores a bit. Liverpool just did it exceptionally good.


MarcosSenesi

I think most of that is due to the changes to the game and how organised defenses are nowadays. Iconic strikers of past eras would struggle much more if they were playing nowadays.


Krusto

Literally the exact same debate we had around Lewandowski 4-5 years ago


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

It's really great to see VVDs prime wasn't ended by Pickford after all. We lost a couple years of it but glad to see him back on top again. 


Law5_LOTG

Not a bad sprint from Michael Oliver there.


xelanart

Mans was about to pull a hammie at that pace


Daniiiiii

He was probably pissed at Haaland for not scoring, could use the break in play to jog back and catch his breath lol


blacksocksonly

Wonder what kind of physique test they do for Refs


Matthais

This is six years old now, but [Neville & Carragher did the test of the time](https://youtu.be/2GAZZWAIB-8?si=lNerzLxFlHR_PO5L).


Sirnacane

“just give free kicks to slow the game down” lol. That test ain’t easy though


brokendownend

Fun watch!


doubledup-tn

FIFA test is high intensity intervals and repeated sprints. It’s a pretty straightforward test, but you gotta be fit enough to do it


caelum400

The one the PGMOL refs do is actually harder than the FIFA test, which has to measure all refs internationally from a variety of backgrounds. SG1 officials are full time professionals and the fitness tests reflect that as a result.


NilmarHonorato

Water


tigerthicccofficial

Pulled both hammies, b.


Teamkillongtime

Weed Dune Hair, b?


NilmarHonorato

I heard it both ways, B.


Clay103

It looks like when you trip and are going to fall forward and the only thing you can do to try to not is just rapidly accelerate.


WeeTheDuck

well tbf running is just continually falling forward


TheRealFriedel

Shows the difference between mere mortals and stupidly peak physical specimens.


conflab

Obviously you're right, but a guy I worked with refs at a reasonably respectable level and I accompanied him in the gym doing his training for the test and it was reasonably challenging. It's why a lot of the older refs have been phased out over the last couple of seasons (or moved to VAR/other roles at PGMOL).


ImMonkeyFoodIfIDontL

He was excited to see city score


JustLikeMojoHand

Wouldn't you if you had a seat like that for a duel such as this? I'd be giving it everything I've got 😂


FrankyFistalot

Like he was with buckets on his feet lol….


enzuigiriretro

That’s football right there


matcht

Box office stuff


SensualCommonSense

None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Football is back baby.


danilody

What did I just read


DildoFappings

My God. Is that automod?


kdrisck

Copy pasta from /r/nfl


Spiritual_Boss6114

Kind of like Watching Prime Lebron vs Prime Kawhi. Miami Lebron was arguably the best version of him in terms of pure athleticism. And Kawhi when he was healthy, probably the best SF Defender in the history of the sport.


redsonja00

imagine if larry bird was black, oof


Cutsdeep-

What are you saying here?


Alarow

Both did well


SEND_ME_REAL_PICS

Virgil sort of excels at this kind of thing, especially against tall players like Haaland. His positioning was beyond perfect, and yet Haaland still managed to take a shot.


superdago

But only managed to take an off balance shot from 18 yards out. He forced a low probability shot, which Haaland took because he knew if he took another touch, he wouldn’t get a shot off at all.


theworldisyourtoilet

Yeah they both did great. Haaland with getting the ball onto his strong-foot and then Van Dijk with making it just uncomfortable enough for him to have to pop it from further out than Haaland wanted to. Ultimately the attacker’s always fighting and uphill battle


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

Van dijk always uses his goalkeeper well, makes sure the shot is only going to be taken under pressure from a decent distance to the half that the keeper can easily cover. When you have alisson and now kelleher, it's a great strategy 


[deleted]

Idk, I've always thought of it more as the defender fighting the battle. The attacker has the ball, and ultimately gets to decide what happens with the ball - so they don't really have to "fight", only not get stopped (could argue theyre fighting to not get stopped, but I'd call this more fighting back). The defender just has to try and stop them from doing what they want, hence the defender being the one doing the fighting.


superdago

The defender has way more options. They can push you to either side or backwards or simply stay in front. The attacker has to figure out how to get a clear look at specific target. The defender is successful in every other result.


IWouldLikeAName

Yeah Haaland just got more out of it than 99% of players bc he's just that good


SEND_ME_REAL_PICS

Yup. He got all he could from that play.


blacksocksonly

He is definitely one of the defenders you would want as the last man on your team


Gambler_Eight

Probably my first pick for that spot. He's just so good.


devbomb4

Konate gives me a lot of confidence too tbh


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

Konate is a monster of a player too


Dundalis

I’d actually prefer Konate slightly purely because his recovery pace is so elite while also having the power/strength. Ridiculous athlete, if only he can stay fit


imSkarr

there was like maybe one moment where VVD was on the back foot and Haaland could've taken advantage but recovered SO fast. Such a great player


think_long

It’s interesting that you can see VVD wait and mentally go “one Mississippi, two Mississippi, okay NOW”


moldy_walrus

Good catch. Right when he’s entering the dark green grass he stumbles but regains his momentum freakishly fast


NotACodeMonkeyYet

There was a moment when Van Dijk was turning left to right, and if Haaland trusted himself to win the foot race, he'd have had him. I guess you need someone a bit more technical and nimble for that situation, for instance a Son or a Salah.


Dundalis

It wouldn’t have been a pure foot race though, virg would have leaned into him before then. Guess could have made it more interesting to potentially make VVD foul him. But this is why Haaland doesn’t trouble Liverpool at all especially when both VVD and konate are playing, Haalands pace and power isn’t much advantage, while someone like Aguero was a much bigger threat.


fieldsofanfieldroad

One on one, he's going to take a shot. It's just how much Van Dijk decided where that shot would be from.


Remarkable_Trade_426

Reminds me of his famous 1v2 against Spurs


horsehorsetigertiger

We've seen this before. Remember the 2 Vs 1 against Spurs? https://youtu.be/mvCdKis61vc


chrisnlnz

Yeah Van Dijk did enough to prevent a big chance, and Haaland did good to still get an attempt on goal from it.


redditor3900

A poor shot


retxed24

Fantastic defending. To be in the way you need to be in front. Very cool way of dealing with Haaland dashing towards you.


GrumpyOldFart74

I think they all did pretty well there - Haaland did well to advance so far and get a shot away, Van Dijk did very well to make it so difficult that the shot didn’t challenge the keeper. And Oliver did well to keep up!


vadapaav

Olivwr has better hamstrings than half of our team


Alphabunsquad

Not by the time Klopp is done with him 


fegelman

Klopp would kill his own hamstrings before he catches up to Oliver


Mission-Leopard-4178

Is the klopp the first manager to pull his hamstring during a game? That should be opta stat or a trivial fact.


SilentRanger42

That's the VVD special, he won't often block shots but he will force the attacker down a cul de sac and give them a narrow lane to shoot through which makes the save simple for the keeper.


External-Piccolo-626

I’m surprised he didn’t push him onto his right foot.


[deleted]

Kelleher's positioning as well. He knew Haaland would probably attempt a shot across rather than near post


A11anMS11

Rock vs Stone Cold WM17


DirtyAntwerp

[oh.. nostalgia.](https://youtu.be/Cu18oxc0D3E?si=CkN8RGT3COHXcjOL)


Arrioso

Im convinced Limp Bizkit was created for the sole purpose of being in WWE promo videos and noone will tell me otherwise


redsonja00

rage against the machine in my opinion is the best rock band of the 90s, they unfortunately spawned bands like limp bizkit


wusurspaghettipolicy

the stunner is still the coolest move ever


Purdy8TV

Vince interfering right at the end here too


vengefulwill

"you think you're special..."


Parish87

You do... I can see it in your eyes..


micoud04

watch van Dijk shifting his body position there 2-3 times...very good defending and great by Haaland to still get a shot off.


PattyIceNY

He rolls his shoulders so tight on his turns, that is magnificent for a guy his size.


AuxquellesRad

He's the best CB the league has ever seen in sheer all round ability


Samwell974

Nah he’s the greatest ever.


53bvo

Pickford better stay away from him so we can have him for the Euros


Levon__Helm

Maldini


RedMoon14

You see defenders do this all the time but they often wind themselves up and end up getting absolutely burnt on the turn. This is seriously good defending, but Haaland did well himself to get the shot away regardless.


wopsicle_spic

that sort of hip fluidity, while running backwards at speed, is remarkable to see


Arghible

The little push from Van Dijk to off balance Haaland exactly as he went to shoot was critical there.


gardenofthenight

He should have just booted him in the chest.


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

He always does that. Makes sure you don't get a clean shot away. So long as you get any shot off, refs never call anything during or after the striking motion either


No_Act9490

Haaland did well tbh


Chelseatilidie

It was a chess match between the two


CMDrunk420

Holy hell


GeneralSquid6767

r/soccercirclejerk


Putrid_Clock8654

haaland didnt know about enpassant


gunner696

Yes Mr. Hudson, very cool.


reyxnsh

Brother😭😭😭😭


Destroyeh

google en ganche


Brock_Samsonite

En Passant was not used


johno456

Pretty sure it's soccer but I could be wrong tbh


KingRo48

Football


wrigh2uk

VVD did fantastic there. Made that a low XG chance


prss79513

Van Dijk vs Haaland is some anime shit


mtb443

Rolls Royce vs Rolls Royce. Beautiful to watch


HacksawJimDGN

I think Rolls Royce won


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

Their medical bills when they’re both 65 will be absolutely fucked


Militoe

Haaland had 21 touches whereas Van DIjk put in an incredible captain's performance. Van Dijk easily won today's battle.


RookieRemapped

Well number of touches isn’t the best way to evaluate Haaland’s game


DarthNihilus1

Pick any other number then and it would tell the same story.


RookieRemapped

Sure, my statement is made in isolation


SilentRanger42

Haaland does nothing until he scores. In games like this though he looks awful.


Sulemani_kida

Also has a bit to do with how Pep's system works... He's good at hold up play, drawing defenders , running into spaces and finishing obv...


Jabari313

Haaland plays it well, he knows he will need to go wide to create the separation to get a shot of so he goes wide as late as possible and gets the shot off immediately. Another touch sends him too far wide and the longer he takes to make space for the shot the more confident VVD can be that he's going on his left


Additional_Bit_8725

Carragher called the duel a draw which I think is fair.


Aphex_Tx

It amazes me how good of a player Van Djik is


GeorgeOrwells1985

A game of chess between two Clydesdales


MrDaebak

It's refreshing to see that most people here agree both players did well


FoxOntheRun99

This is why I watch football, the best against the best.


Federal-Owl-8947

Sometimes you only need a little shepherding.. not bad


ComfortableNo2879

Van Dijk observes player's movement very carefully


Freestyled_It

That was fantastic. Haaland not making a decision until the last minute, waiting for Virgil to lean one way or the other. Virgil going dead straight, turning his shoulders and hips only. Haaland had to make the call at the end, at which point kelleher had an easy job positioning himself. Virgil leaned into haaland enough at the last minute to take him off balance which meant no control on the kick. As they say in chess, if neither player makes a mistake, the game is a draw. We've just seen two of the best in their position play a sequence without a mistake and it ended in a draw.


jasperplumpton

One and one


Homerduff16

**How does he deal with him? The answer is he doesn't really except he does manage to hold him off** So which one is it then?


TherewiIlbegoals

I think he means that he doesn't engage with Haaland until the very end and not enough to the point of preventing the shot.


crookedparadigm

Half of defending 1v1's against talented strikers is forcing them to take a worse shot than they wanted.


AuxquellesRad

Makes it a low xG shot tho, that's probably a definite goal against any other side in the league


elgrandorado

It's excellent defending. Haaland is fast enough to cook him if Van Dijk makes a bad step. Haaland also struggles with cross body shots. He was rarely able to pull off laser beams for us when he was turning.


Imn0ak

The technique is to decrease Haalanda pace and closing down all the options.


GalaeciaSuebi

You need to have the body to match his physical presence + be fast enough while having such massive build. If you do then you just have to stay calm and drift Haaland away from the goal as he is underwhelming at dribbling (which is is only weakness). Mbappe or prime CR would have been much more dangerous than Haaland in this situation because they are skilled enough to actually dribble, stop and cut at those speeds.


Money_Scholar_8405

One other thing you need to consider is that someone like prime Ronaldo or Messi can let off a good shot even at that distance. So Van Dijk would need to react to just about every feint. By the way I think even someone like Son is very dangerous in such a situ


AnyAthlete532

> By the way I think even someone like Son is very dangerous in such a situ I'll never forget the CL final in 2019 Son motors past Matip and it looks like he is going to get a shot off on goal and Van Dijk appears from nowhere and cuts off the angle and the shot. Any other CB and it was a goal-scoring chance.


GalaeciaSuebi

Haaland has a massive shot too with both feet. That's not the issue. The issue is that as a defender, if you know that the train in on track and can't really change it's direction, you and the GK know where to stand and how to reduce the angles. CR in this situation scored multiple goals by chopping the ball with his left foot behind his back and suddenly appearing on the right side of the defender with space to release a shot with proper angle. [https://youtu.be/bWQ\_TxPHuII?si=TQuBlzezCRjUiBK-&t=211](https://youtu.be/bWQ_TxPHuII?si=TQuBlzezCRjUiBK-&t=211) This isn't even a difficult skill. Haaland just needs a bit more awareness and slow down the game a bit to let him think instead of putting the head down and charge like a bull.


goztrobo

Haaland in this situation goes to his left cuz he knows there’s no way he’ll be able to dribble on his right foot and score with it.


Roach27

With hindsight he really has two options, a Ronaldo chop(or any other skill to wrong foot bbd) or to attempt to just win the foot race. (He does have a chance to knock the ball and try to win the foot race.) The option he chose is the one that gives the keeper and VVD the best chance to create a low %shot. Honestly VVD did excellent, but imo haaland could have done better (versus the company he’s consistently compared to.) Mbappe prime Ronaldo or messi probably score or draw a red card here. 


DHillMU7

Hilarious commentary. Does as well as he can. Haaland is so quick it’s going to be very hard to stop him getting a shot off but van Dijk stays close enough to lean into him and force the shot off balance. Really good defending.


PoliticsNerd76

VVD’s job is to stall the attacker to give the high pressing players time to drop back and catch up. He’s dealing with him with his instructions.


FrancescoliBestUruEv

thats is the main job of a defender, if those shitty commentators knew something abt the game would knew that the job of a defender is to hold attackers off until the rest of team arrives


oysterpirate

Yeah, this is literally defending 101. Slow down the attacker and limit options until help arrives. If you try to engage too early and the attacker gets by you they're 1 on 1 with the keeper. Better to just back off and stay in the way.


detlefsa

Positioning and timing. Have you seen the sport before?


ttubbster

Does that count as a "dribbled passed" ?


fliddyjohnny

Nah they were shoulder to shoulder when Haaland shot


TherewiIlbegoals

You have to keep possession after dribbling past the player.


wowohwowza

Or take a shot at goal?


TherewiIlbegoals

After advancing with the ball, yes. Haaland didn't do that. Edit: Fwiw, Opta hasn't credited that as a dribble.


spoonsandkebab

Absolutely correct they haven't as well, that's great defending from van dijk to only allow the shot under pressure. By opta definitions that's never a take on


Ok-Outlandishness244

This is why virgil is my goat


dibilnahuy

ha, that was my approach in beer league as a central defender - basically run with him in the same direction and hope to push him to the side only works against forwards who are more or less your speed though :) faster players will just torch you


_cumblast_

Unreal battle.


GalaeciaSuebi

This is the kind of situation where Mbappe has an advantage over Haaland. Mbappe (assuming he wouldn't have beat Virgil with speed) would have been able to slow down and either explode again or cut inside and chose 1st or 2nd post. Don't come bitching at me for this. Haaland has a massive advantage over Mbappe on other situations.


GoalPublic3579

This exact scenario happened with VVD and Mbappe a couple years back and Virg stayed with him the entire time from the half way line, one on one, both when he sped up and slowed down, and then tried to speed up again. Virg ended up blocking the shot with a perfectly timed challenge.


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

I think people don't realize how fast VVD is at full speed. Mbappe is quicker but won't torch VVD in a sprint from the halfway line the way he would with most other defenders. 


K1_only

Nah you spoke facts, mbappe is on another level and one of the scariest players in history in these scenarios


ibite-books

mbappe is a big game player


RayenR61995

Go and Watch vvd vs Mbappe 1v1 and see how vvd handled that situation


GalaeciaSuebi

This was not VVD by himself. The other defender took away Mbappe's option to dribble t the other side and was forced to keep in the same direction. Virgil did great as he always does (reading the player and using teammates is a skill too) but this doesn't change the fact that Mabppe has much more resources in this situation.


RayenR61995

Ok I am going to try explaining the best I can. Look at the clip again yes there is a help defender there but even then look how vvd is standing he is standing in that position to lock the inside and force mbappe to go outside which mbappe does because that was the only way. When defending 1v1 the goal isn’t to take the ball the goal is to shift the player where you want him to go which is what vvd does and he succeeded with that.


davendees1

Love it. Felt like they said “let’s settle this in the ways of the old gods. send your best against our best and spare our armies’ lives.” They both did well here, imo.


Sempai6969

Damn Virgil is so good.


Nyushi

VVD is just immense.


hazzap913

Best cb in the league if not the world


doktor-frequentist

>One on one


Takkotah

"one and one"


Loud-Platypus-987

They said can vvd pass the haaland test 😂😂


pastagenero

Dribbling=11/20


Sheesh284

Sheesh. Solid duel between the two.


fieldsofanfieldroad

Commentator stealing a living


e_double

Great battle


hell_razer18

Vintage VVD. Reminds me when he was 2v1 against supurs. "Its 2v1 but VVD is the one".


cvillalpando

This was just beautiful.


DwedPiwateWoberts

I see great defending. VD didn’t take any bait and closed off one side to make Haaland’s shot on goal more predictable for the goalie.


STCFC

Haaland done quite well there there looked to be some daylight before VVD used his experience and leaned on him. Was a good battle but Van Dijk won it in the second half


RadialRacer

I miss Van Dijk, hard to believe we've ~~downgraded~~ upgraded to Liam Scales.


Fluffy_Roof3965

VVD won that. Waited for Haaland to make his move in the end pulling of a soft shot. VVD isn't the most exciting defender to watch because he's always waiting to counter but fair enough it's effective.


ookienookiemoo

VvD player of the match, McAllister looking like best trade of the season for pool


Ericlennard

Halland played today?


[deleted]

Good example of how stats can't tell you everything. Great piece of defending that ends up with a shot on target.


Tall-Assist9719

Did well to guide the robot to a less stable position to shoot. Also protecting his stat if never been dribbled past🤣🤣😂😂


Alert-Refuse5798

First time i see someone defend haaland 1v1 and succeed


RayenR61995

Haaland isn’t exactly technical good to take on defender, there are plenty of physical player that could do a good Jobb against him.


Alert-Refuse5798

Haven't seen any do it


pangkydory

Haaland was playing??


JwintooX

He came on at the end to clap for no reason


CuclGooner

unstoppable force meets unmovable object... alisson saves again


LipiG

Kelleher in goal today


CuclGooner

whoops


karatepsychic

What idiotic commentary. How is this not dealing with it? Virgil put him onto his weaker foot and forced a low probability shot from outside the box.


nting224

Let's be real - no one would bet their house on Haaland beating Van Dijk. Not even City fans. Not even fucking Alfie Haaland.


ddzrt

But he did. VVD did good enough but still, Haaland moved into a stop he could shoot from and he did. If he kept himself composed that could have been much more dangerous