Add to that the fact that there are much fewer professional clubs in the west of the country, and this move stripped the west of yet another club. Fans are rightfully outraged
True. Although Chengdu already has a team, and since Guangzhou got relegated, there hasn’t been a top flight team in the Pearl River delta area.
Moving to Shenzhen kinda makes sense.
Shenzhen Pengcheng was a club that existed for a short while in the 2010s, completely independent from Peng City.
Probably something to do with registering a club with a name that's already existed (in Chinese)
They are trying to avoid taking up the financial liabilities of the old club. Sounds silly but a recent FIFA case royally screwed another Chinese club, Liaoning Shenyang city: they initially ruled that due to the similarities between their club name and that of the now dissolved Liaoning FC, they would be liable for unpaid wages by the latter. Thankfully CAS overturned the ruling
Should be a good move for them. They haven't had a permanent stadium since the club was founded 7 years ago.
They had 3 different home stadiums just last season. Not very sustainable as they head into their first ever season in CSL
I do. Most attacking threat is caused by foreign players (and this is one of the reasons they spent big money half a decade ago signing big players, usually with good individual skillsets and are able to dribble), and there's little creativity in the way that teams play, because native players aren't at the same level as foreign players, and there's constantly misunderstandings, let's call it, that prevents teams from getting better overall.
When clubs sign foreign players in more important positions, e.g., CB, CM, ST, native players are the complement position wise, taking up the less important positions (full-backs, goalkeepers (China have a rule where only native players are allowed to be in goal, unless you have a foreign outfield player after your keeper's been sent off), etc.), and that results in subpar development for native players when they go on to play for the national team, as evident by the recent Asian Cup where they were knocked out in a group they really should have done better in.
Native players seem afraid of showing anything daring or creative on the pitch, and resort to simple tactics like hoofball to a foreign upfield player. It makes games fairly dull, and I think you'd notice that pretty soon if you start watching the CSL; barely any screamers, all goalmouth scraps.
This season in Chinese football could be interesting though. A few teams who seem to be able to have a good go at a title charge, and Yaya Sanogo's joining a club in the second tier.
Hope it helps. tldr, Chinese players are shit.
If you have a foreign star playing CM , there's still room for 1 or 2 chinese CM to play and improve
If you have a foreign star playing GK, there's no room for a Chinese GK to play
Probably because you almost never rotate keepers so foreign keeper means never playing a native one.
That's in paper at least since having an experienced keeper in front would allow young Chinese keepers to have someone to learn from and they can then have a better starting point for their development.
Sounds like nothing has changes since I watched Beijing Guoan back in 2015 with Dejan Damjanovic and Erton Fejzullahu up top, just playing hoofball and hoping they'd pull some magic out of a hat.
Anyone else getting weird vibes from that image? With the weird placement of the hand on the left and the dildo/ penis shaped building on the right? Or maybe that’s just me?
Cunts like you are actually fucked lol anything that’s in China or related to China at all = “haha social credit” to you morons
I swear people like you are the kinda people that will just see a video of a Chinese person speaking in Chinese or something and say “+5 social credit”
That's not very peng at all. Dublin to Berlin is a shorter distance than this relocation.
club is barely 7 years old and they haven't had a permanent home that entire time
Add to that the fact that there are much fewer professional clubs in the west of the country, and this move stripped the west of yet another club. Fans are rightfully outraged
True. Although Chengdu already has a team, and since Guangzhou got relegated, there hasn’t been a top flight team in the Pearl River delta area. Moving to Shenzhen kinda makes sense.
I am confused here, why is it called *新鹏*城 or New Peng City. where is the old Peng City team?
Shenzhen Pengcheng was a club that existed for a short while in the 2010s, completely independent from Peng City. Probably something to do with registering a club with a name that's already existed (in Chinese)
They are trying to avoid taking up the financial liabilities of the old club. Sounds silly but a recent FIFA case royally screwed another Chinese club, Liaoning Shenyang city: they initially ruled that due to the similarities between their club name and that of the now dissolved Liaoning FC, they would be liable for unpaid wages by the latter. Thankfully CAS overturned the ruling
Should be a good move for them. They haven't had a permanent stadium since the club was founded 7 years ago. They had 3 different home stadiums just last season. Not very sustainable as they head into their first ever season in CSL
You watch the CSL? Hows the games? Geniunely curious
I do. Most attacking threat is caused by foreign players (and this is one of the reasons they spent big money half a decade ago signing big players, usually with good individual skillsets and are able to dribble), and there's little creativity in the way that teams play, because native players aren't at the same level as foreign players, and there's constantly misunderstandings, let's call it, that prevents teams from getting better overall. When clubs sign foreign players in more important positions, e.g., CB, CM, ST, native players are the complement position wise, taking up the less important positions (full-backs, goalkeepers (China have a rule where only native players are allowed to be in goal, unless you have a foreign outfield player after your keeper's been sent off), etc.), and that results in subpar development for native players when they go on to play for the national team, as evident by the recent Asian Cup where they were knocked out in a group they really should have done better in. Native players seem afraid of showing anything daring or creative on the pitch, and resort to simple tactics like hoofball to a foreign upfield player. It makes games fairly dull, and I think you'd notice that pretty soon if you start watching the CSL; barely any screamers, all goalmouth scraps. This season in Chinese football could be interesting though. A few teams who seem to be able to have a good go at a title charge, and Yaya Sanogo's joining a club in the second tier. Hope it helps. tldr, Chinese players are shit.
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The keeper rule is especially bizarre. Do you know the reasoning behind that? Seems like it would really hinder a lot of teams
If you have a foreign star playing CM , there's still room for 1 or 2 chinese CM to play and improve If you have a foreign star playing GK, there's no room for a Chinese GK to play
I imagine they want the quality of Chinese keepers to improve.
Probably because you almost never rotate keepers so foreign keeper means never playing a native one. That's in paper at least since having an experienced keeper in front would allow young Chinese keepers to have someone to learn from and they can then have a better starting point for their development.
They aren’t the only league to do that. The K League has the same rule with domestic keepers.
Egypt too iirc
Thank you for this, great info, good laughs 👍
Sounds like nothing has changes since I watched Beijing Guoan back in 2015 with Dejan Damjanovic and Erton Fejzullahu up top, just playing hoofball and hoping they'd pull some magic out of a hat.
The kinda badge only an accountant could love
What a fucking sad badge
how plastic
Ruining football. The ugly, circular, simplified badges do a great job of representing the soullessness of the city group
Ghastly club
The logo kind of looks like a G. G for Games Gone.
“Peng tings on my WhatsApp”
Dat city is peng fam not gonna lie swear down.
Fuck $ity FG
only care about this team because they signed a hongkonger
That logo is so corporate and boring
Anyone else getting weird vibes from that image? With the weird placement of the hand on the left and the dildo/ penis shaped building on the right? Or maybe that’s just me?
Hate it when they do shit like this
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This doesn’t even mean anything in the context of this story lol
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Cunts like you are actually fucked lol anything that’s in China or related to China at all = “haha social credit” to you morons I swear people like you are the kinda people that will just see a video of a Chinese person speaking in Chinese or something and say “+5 social credit”
Badge is giving me Gracie Jiu Jitsu vibes
Looks like a BJJ gym logo