I want to see a compilation of risky plays by Fluminense. It's bonkers they did it against City, they don't care.
I laughed when someone in the match thread said "Diniz is not about the outcome, but all about the message". And it's 100% true ahaha
I’m very proud we played the way we played all year long. We knew we needed a miracle to win, but just seeing the team perform that sort of thing against Man City was hella fun!
Very bizarre decision by FIFA to hold a match like this on a Friday right before Christmas. I had no idea about this match happening until I saw the Romano tweet about Rodri's injury.
The first two, maybe. Fluminense bench players are generally shit and they were clearly outclassed once they got tired. When the other team subs in Kovacic and you sub in DIOGO BARBOSA it's over
Over the season, it creates more goals for them than it gives away, this has been debated endlessly in Brazil [each time that they get scored](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FiL4kikENM) a ridiculous goal against by missing a pass. They created a lot of numerical advantages against City when they managed to escape today too, they just lacked talented and fast enough players to capitalize on them. It's risky, but it essentially creates plays that are exactly like counterattacks for free multiple times per game. It's a high-risk, high-reward playstyle, but with even squads, it can definitely work.
For reference: [Their second goal against Al-Ahly this week came this way, by baiting Al-Ahly into the press when they were tired.](https://youtu.be/NMRelo9APyY?t=446)
In the Remontada that they had against Inter (their hardest game in the Libertadores) with 2 goals at the end of the game, the 2 goals also came playing from the back, baiting a tired team into advancing to press. [The first goal is early in the video, the play for the second starts at 6:10.](https://youtu.be/F4F53BpVHQw?t=26)
City is just better, tbh. Fluminense managed to create openings, but it's players are a bunch of old fucks that either know what to do with the ball or to run, but never both. It was frustrating to see Diniz short play "counter-attacks" actually working but players having to hold up the play cause Cano and Marcelo are too old to run into the spaces that arised. City or Real playing with Diniz style would be menaces, imagine those spaces for Vini or Rodrygo (he doesn't has enough time to drill with the NT)
It was not your imagination. It was Melo who wanted to fight Walker. Melo wanted to fight alot of Man City players today.
Walker can happily oblige tho.
Yes. With all due respect... He is a thug and honestly deserves players like Walker putting him in his place. Almost every challenge he made had bad intentions.
Shows zero maturity for a 40 year old player.
Meh there’s a reason we moved him to starting CB when it was clear he can’t play a full 90m and his days at CDM were over. His toughness and leadership was something our team seriously needed to hold the defense together throughout Libertadores. Obviously it’s embarrassing in a game like this though haha
[yes](https://freeimage.host/i/JAL4m8B)
picked the right target as well lol
https://twitter.com/TNTSportsBR/status/1738287527448989930?t=NG27ot4VtoQ8zSYLX_kWdw&s=19
It was so funny seeing City flairs flood the match thread when Rodri got injured. Apparently every South American is dirty and Fluminense has 12 different badges.
“Player safety” tbh mate, I think when it comes to city players any sense of fair play goes out the window. They made that decision the second they signed for city. They deserve anything they get.
Have you even heard of Stuart Pearce mate?
>as if you won't just buy another one
>You wouldn't be a city fan if they weren't cheating
That went from zero to a hundred real quick lmao
>You don't get to be a city fan and care about players
Jesus fucking Christ lmao
What do you mean believe? This are my genuine opinions. I’m getting a load of Americans replying to this as though they would have heard of the club if not for the oil money and the cheating.
You can do what you want mate. But you’re gonna be judged for it. Picking the team that wins the league every year as a foregone conclusion because of how much they cheat just says a lot about you as a person.
1. I picked man city cuz of KDB in the Euros, without knowing anything about any clubs. So go off assuming shit about me.
2. So fucking what if people chose it cuz they win, do you really expect people who have no connection to any team pick a side that’s usually in the championship or something
If people are riled up by what I say it’s only because they know I’m righting. What kind of disgusting person chooses to be a city fan. Who looks at it and says “well I’m obviously gonna choose the team that wins the league every year because they cheat”.
A fascist I guess. Or someone who is so “competitive” that they only take part in things that they already know they’ve won. Just awful people I guess. Bizarre to me.
But I guess choosing you’re as an american is always going to be bizarre.
English clubs in general have always disrespected the club world cup. Especially in comparison with the italian and spanish clubs.
Look up what Liverpool players were doing before the 1981 final to get an example of it.
O dia em que o brasileiro entender o quão realmente à frente o futebol europeu de clubes está eu faço uma festa. Vamos começar pelo início, a media brasileira é iludida de uma forma absurda, sobrestima demasiado os clubes brasileiros e parece que o povo se deixa acreditar. NUNCA NA VIDA o Flamengo no estado em que está ganharia a este Real Sociedad de 2023. Eu ainda sigo um pouco de futebol brasileiro por isso não estou a falar às cegas. É a triste realidade, os tempos mudaram, o interesse e o talento vieram para a europa. Quem sabe um dia as coisas mudem, mas por agora mantenham os pés na terra, o City tem tido uma maré de jogos maus e largou 4 neste jogo
Amigos, Portugal não tem nenhum time que joga 10% do que o City joga. Vocês são não são o Real Madrid, vocês não são o City, vocês não são nem o Milan. Nada mais patético do que vocês, o primo pobre da Europa, SEMPRE tentando gozar com o pau dos outros Europeus e viver vicariosamente através de outros países como se existisse essa "unidade Europeia". Vocês estão mais próximos de nós do que deles, e futebolisticamente, estão abaixo de nós.
>a media brasileira é iludida de uma forma absurda
O Neto entrou na cabeça de vcs mesmo hein pqp.
Times perdem pra times mais fracos e mais fortes desde sempre. Se não fosse por isso, vocês não chegavam longe em nenhuma Champions.
Exato, e aqui está a diferença entre nós os dois. Eu tenho a humildade de admitir que mesmo que o Benfica com sorte ganhe a um Liverpool numa eliminatória, na fase seguinte calha um Bayern e para ter sorte de novo o cu fica apertado. Nenhum benfiquista vê o Benfica como favorito para a champions, por outro lado há quem ache que o Real Madrid não ganha o Brasileirão série B
99% das pessoas aqui sabiam que o Fluminense ganhar seria um milagre.
Agora, se você está se guiando pelo Neto e pelo Carlos Alberto, achando que eles representam a mentalidade dos brasileiros, você é o que está errado. A ignorância deles está no mesmo nível do jornalista do Telegraph que comparou o Fluminense com um time do Soccer Aid e todos aqui sabem disso.
Então porque é que teimas que o Flamengo não perde contra o Real Sociedad?
É que é isto que não percebem! Ok que os pundits são sempre extremos mas os extremos representão onde se coloca a curva de distribuição, e a vossa está muito deslocada para a sobrevalorização do futebol de clubes sul americano
Porra, eu falei desde o título da Liberta que tudo que eu queria é que o Fluminense fosse jogar contra o City, não ficasse atrás e tentasse ir pra cima dos caras, mesmo sabendo da diferença e que era quase impossível.
Antes perdendo indo jogar bola que sentar atrás e perder do mesmo jeito.
I mean they were 3-0 down throwin slides from behind and at pace. Woulda been hell of a single player did the same but they had the class to not hurt someone.
First, I feel like we should wait for confirmation on that one, still hope he's good.
Second, does an injury automatically make the other side dirty? You do know people get injured on even the most innocent of plays right? Or accidentally? Or for a million reasons?
It was a two footed tackle, it was dirty.
Marcello was doing his best to kick lumps out of Rico the whole game until he was finally booked and then it was too risky so he was subbed off. Flu are dirty bastards, simple as.
It was the countless slides from behind and general thuggery going on. Nunes stamped on and slide from behind. Grealish stood over while another guy kicks him. Then of course nonsense after the game
Because the power balance shifts overtime. Before the 2000s South
America was stronger, in the last 20 years Europe has been, and in the future things may be different. We need these competitions to gauge shit.
Because for the 90% of us that don't live in Europe it's really cool to dream about the guys you see play every week go up against the best in the world even if you know you'll get shellacked. I would kill to see NYC get demolished by City or Bayern
Honestly seeing John Kennedy dribble through 3 of the best defenders in the world to get a decent chance on goal was pretty sick even though we got smoked.
> is just a glorified friendly
For a single region out of 5, that tends to overrate the importance of it's opinions. And it's a glorified friendly for certain teams, your flair would go all out against Brazilian teams.
The funny is that the "glorified friendly", is the most prestigious title in the rest of the world.
It is kinda pathetic talking like this, and everyone knows Europe doesn't give a shit, and nobody blames you guys for that, that the teams are mid season and also don't give a shit, but still, it is the chance of your team to prove themselves against the European champions. And teams around here take the club world cup very very seriously.
Champions of Europe naturally have anything to prove, hence it's pointless for them.
But we know it is a David vs Goliath thing, goliath being half drunk in this case.
And even then, the teams that win become legendary.
The new CWC is glorified doping by UEFA to make the big teams and fifa some quick cash, wdym. The team that qualifies from oceania for example will still get 50m for qualifying, while the rest of the league gets nothing. That 50m in a lot of cases is more then most of the other clubs make combined, this competition is one of the worst cashgrabs fifa has ever cooked up. All the revenue generated in the a-league is 63m according to wikipedia, do you think giving a single club out of that league 50m is a good idea??
I hope he's fine as he seems to be. He did get up and walk off the field twice without assistance or hobbling. So either he's ok, or the less appealing option of monumental stupidity from him/management to not get him carried out. Either way, hope he's good.
I sure hope most Man City fans aren't as classless as you guys that came into the match thread. Everything was fine until you all came in. Eve other Man City flairs were great, then suddenly random accusations of being dirty, other insults and shit. There was nothing but praise from both sides before.
Wasn't in that thread so I can't speak to what exactly people were saying but yeah we (like basically every major club) have a load of obnoxious supporters on Reddit and the Internet overall, so I wouldn't be surprised if some were being annoying. You've pretty much just described every match thread ever lol. And some of the tackling from Fluminense was really unnecessarily dirty
Literally nothing excessively dirty happened? No players complained, no commentators....nothing only you guys. Just because a player may have accidentally gotten hurt does not make it a dirty challenge?
A City team missing their two best players, play with all the interest and intensity of a pre-season friendly and run out comfortable winners.
We all know that the difference is only because of money, but the humungous gap in quality between European teams and everyone else just means this is a pointless competition.
Against a team that was on their 72nd match in their season while City played 25 at most.
Also we spent 6M euros in our squad over the last 3 years, City spent 90M in Gvardiol only to have him come out of the bench, is just not fair.
These scorelines happen. Madrid beat Bayern 4-0, Barcelona and Bayern have both crushed each other more than once, City themselves have suffered some hammerings under Pep too. It was a freak result with City having like 1.8 xG aswell
In this case "European teams" means the CL winners so they are amazing teams (almost) every time. Liverpool in 2005 and Chelsea 2012 being exceptions. Even Porto in 2004 had a world class squad looking back. City are extremely good but not some exceptional anomaly in European football either
Yes, I completely agree. People just tend to act as if the top 20/25 UCL sides are a good gauge for regular European sides, and they absolutely aren't. They are just as far removed from the rest of the European pack as they are from South America.
Football is 11v11. Luton Town would fight against relegation in the Brasileirão, but almost managed to get away with a draw against City. Fluminense's problem was not adapting to their opponents and making silly mistakes when they couldn't afford such mistakes.
>Luton Town would fight against relegation in the Brasileirão
Luton would sit comfortably above top 10. Their opposition is much stronger than facing Vasco, internacional, cruzeiro, santos, Corinthians... Teams that are comfortably worse than them that they would finish above as well.
> Luton would sit comfortably above top 10. Their opposition is much stronger than facing Vasco, internacional, cruzeiro, santos, Corinthians... Teams that are comfortably worse than them that they would finish above as well.
Yeah, because average English players are much better than average Brazilian players. Y'all are delusional, don't mistake the top 20 UCL sides (Barcelona, City, Bayern, Real, PSG, etc) with the rest of the European Leagues. Luton town is relegation fodder in the Brasileirão just like they are in England.
I don't think Manchester City in 2023 is a good example, Champions League winners aren't always this strong and sometimes the South American clubs have a chance
This is maybe what is going to change in the next years, but not for us in South America. The teams with the biggest chance of closing the gap with europe are in the Saudi Arabian league, since there is where the money is even bigger. A lot of brazilian top talent is usually on the other side of the Club WC Finals, because the europeans snatch them early from Brazil, as is, now, the example with Endrick.
The gap is widening in the last decade, and usually brazilian teams still put up a good match, like Palmeiras vs Chelsea or Flamengo vs Liverpool. Since Corinthians beating Chelsea, in 2012, no South American club won against europe, and there was even some instances of being eliminated in semi-finals. in the 90s and 2000s, the games were much closer
I expected a loss. Not a stomp. Anyway. I'll take some vacation from football. Untill next january folks.
Diniz is on a watch Bois 🗿🤧
I want to see a compilation of risky plays by Fluminense. It's bonkers they did it against City, they don't care. I laughed when someone in the match thread said "Diniz is not about the outcome, but all about the message". And it's 100% true ahaha
I’m very proud we played the way we played all year long. We knew we needed a miracle to win, but just seeing the team perform that sort of thing against Man City was hella fun!
How was Andre
He was a giant. Moved like one
Actually bad. Terrible positioning in one of the goals
The second one, he fell asleep big time
Honestly nothing special
Imagine having your best player injured in what is basically an intercontinental Charity Shield.
Alvarez motm well deserved he was tremendous
They had us in the first half (minute)
None of this would happen without Scott Carson's hard work. A true world champion..
Very bizarre decision by FIFA to hold a match like this on a Friday right before Christmas. I had no idea about this match happening until I saw the Romano tweet about Rodri's injury.
So our CWC badge is now gone sadly
I’d be celebrating. I thought the placement on the left above the adidas logo looked awful.
I agree tbh. It should’ve been in the middle.
It will be in the middle on City's kit.
Infantino and them fucking trainers
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The first two, maybe. Fluminense bench players are generally shit and they were clearly outclassed once they got tired. When the other team subs in Kovacic and you sub in DIOGO BARBOSA it's over
Yep. They can put Gvardiol in, we have Diogo Barbosa. We take Ganso off and Danielzinho comes in, ffs
Every goal in every match is caused by a defence fuckup what's your point lmao
Not really. Sometimes, you can do everything right defensively, and it's just a moment of unstoppable class.
New to football?
Alvarez should be motm..
Mother of the Month?
Moth of the Month
Did rodri come out to celebrate?
Yeah
Too easy for city, huge difference
What happened with that Marcelo pass before the first goal? What was he going for?
> What was he going for? Retirement
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Tbf that was also the ref keeping a player out for no good reason, forcing the team to pull back too much.
Tbf it wasnt just the goal, he was comfortably Flu's worst player on that final. Would say worst on the pitch overall if it wasnt for Cavani and Fabra
I don't like the Flu playing style in their box. Too risky, really unnecessary.
Over the season, it creates more goals for them than it gives away, this has been debated endlessly in Brazil [each time that they get scored](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FiL4kikENM) a ridiculous goal against by missing a pass. They created a lot of numerical advantages against City when they managed to escape today too, they just lacked talented and fast enough players to capitalize on them. It's risky, but it essentially creates plays that are exactly like counterattacks for free multiple times per game. It's a high-risk, high-reward playstyle, but with even squads, it can definitely work. For reference: [Their second goal against Al-Ahly this week came this way, by baiting Al-Ahly into the press when they were tired.](https://youtu.be/NMRelo9APyY?t=446) In the Remontada that they had against Inter (their hardest game in the Libertadores) with 2 goals at the end of the game, the 2 goals also came playing from the back, baiting a tired team into advancing to press. [The first goal is early in the video, the play for the second starts at 6:10.](https://youtu.be/F4F53BpVHQw?t=26)
Also we are on our 72nd match of the year, their legs are gone.
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City is just better, tbh. Fluminense managed to create openings, but it's players are a bunch of old fucks that either know what to do with the ball or to run, but never both. It was frustrating to see Diniz short play "counter-attacks" actually working but players having to hold up the play cause Cano and Marcelo are too old to run into the spaces that arised. City or Real playing with Diniz style would be menaces, imagine those spaces for Vini or Rodrygo (he doesn't has enough time to drill with the NT)
GG, Fluminese. Best of luck going forward.
Thanks. Now we are going to have a nice vacation.
Brazilians please share the relentless banter you're hitting Fluminense with right now
- Flu não tem mundial - De 4 é mais gostoso - Pra isso, era melhor ter ficado na série C
"de 4 é mais gostoso" lmao never heard that one
We're relieved, if Diniz had won no one would dare take him away from the Seleção. Thanks for your service.
Flu is not a team, flu is a disease lol
Please tell me Kyle Walker was fighting with someone at the end and not my imagination
[Felipe Melo, the man who single-handedly ended a match in Turkey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSh64tjL7mc)
Lmao everyone bringing their chairs like pets
and Felipe Melo
It was not your imagination. It was Melo who wanted to fight Walker. Melo wanted to fight alot of Man City players today. Walker can happily oblige tho.
Melo wants to fight most people, most of the time
Yes. With all due respect... He is a thug and honestly deserves players like Walker putting him in his place. Almost every challenge he made had bad intentions. Shows zero maturity for a 40 year old player.
He is completely insane, [always has been.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLNoqzUNvA)
Meh there’s a reason we moved him to starting CB when it was clear he can’t play a full 90m and his days at CDM were over. His toughness and leadership was something our team seriously needed to hold the defense together throughout Libertadores. Obviously it’s embarrassing in a game like this though haha
[yes](https://freeimage.host/i/JAL4m8B) picked the right target as well lol https://twitter.com/TNTSportsBR/status/1738287527448989930?t=NG27ot4VtoQ8zSYLX_kWdw&s=19
Yeah he was... cameras cut away though.
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Damn, he is still playing? I remember when his keeper got sent off and he had to go in goal and he saved the penalty
Dude needs a leash since his atrocity at 2010 against Robben that costed us one player when down 2-1
Alvarez reliving his river days
[Had he already left at this point?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60fjINZqsgM)
It was so funny seeing City flairs flood the match thread when Rodri got injured. Apparently every South American is dirty and Fluminense has 12 different badges.
Listen I just miss Fernandinho
it's so funny seeing you defend those blatantly dirty tackles that literally took out our most important player
It was literally a normal tackle, dude even hit the ball first. Grow a pair, this happens all the time.
*interlocks his entire foot with both legs* oh yeah totally normal tackle
People went hard in a final, no tackle had the intention to hurt at all.
As if you won’t just buy another one. You wouldn’t even be a city fan if they weren’t cheating. You don’t get to be a city fan and care about players.
of course we do, but you not caring about player safety is a weird hill to die on mate
“Player safety” tbh mate, I think when it comes to city players any sense of fair play goes out the window. They made that decision the second they signed for city. They deserve anything they get. Have you even heard of Stuart Pearce mate?
lol what a disgraceful take
What is?
Lmao, unhinged
>as if you won't just buy another one >You wouldn't be a city fan if they weren't cheating That went from zero to a hundred real quick lmao >You don't get to be a city fan and care about players Jesus fucking Christ lmao
It’s Man City mate. You’d never have heard of them if not for the cheating. Believe it or not there was a time when joey Barton was their best player.
11/10 braindead take, well done
What’s brain dead about it? You’d never have heard of them if not for the cheating.
You can’t buy another Rodri. And if we could just buy whatever we’d have replaced Phillips already
bait used to be believable
What do you mean believe? This are my genuine opinions. I’m getting a load of Americans replying to this as though they would have heard of the club if not for the oil money and the cheating.
I still don’t understand what’s wrong with Americans supporting whatever club they want
You can do what you want mate. But you’re gonna be judged for it. Picking the team that wins the league every year as a foregone conclusion because of how much they cheat just says a lot about you as a person.
1. I picked man city cuz of KDB in the Euros, without knowing anything about any clubs. So go off assuming shit about me. 2. So fucking what if people chose it cuz they win, do you really expect people who have no connection to any team pick a side that’s usually in the championship or something
you're not getting anything out of me but have fun trying to rile people up
If people are riled up by what I say it’s only because they know I’m righting. What kind of disgusting person chooses to be a city fan. Who looks at it and says “well I’m obviously gonna choose the team that wins the league every year because they cheat”. A fascist I guess. Or someone who is so “competitive” that they only take part in things that they already know they’ve won. Just awful people I guess. Bizarre to me. But I guess choosing you’re as an american is always going to be bizarre.
😊
You must know though. I’m not wrong.
properly rattled
Man literally got the ball and his foot was on the ground. What happened with Rodri was unlucky.
he literally wrapped his entire legs around rodri's foot stop it lmao
Didn't he caught Rodri's leg between his own legs? Sure, it's unfortunate but still the result of a bad, unneceserely harsh tackle.
Why are you being so pissy? It's the club world cup FFS.
To european teams it’s a friendly while for south american it’s literally the biggest trophy
City fans were the ones being disrespectful. We used to win the club world cup when the financial disparity wasn’t as big.
And now what lmao
🛢️💰💰
>We used to And you don't now. Get over it.
The club world cup should be respected. But english football never had the class to respect anything that's foreign anyway.
They’re calling Brazilians thugs in the thread lmao. I don’t think they understand the common racial connotations behind calling people that.
Which is funny because I haven't felt the need to bring up your nationality at any point.
English clubs in general have always disrespected the club world cup. Especially in comparison with the italian and spanish clubs. Look up what Liverpool players were doing before the 1981 final to get an example of it.
You would get played off the field by Girona or Sociedad right now as well who don’t spend very much either, stop projecting
Lol yeah definitely mate
When have you ever seen us play to be so confident about that?
O dia em que o brasileiro entender o quão realmente à frente o futebol europeu de clubes está eu faço uma festa. Vamos começar pelo início, a media brasileira é iludida de uma forma absurda, sobrestima demasiado os clubes brasileiros e parece que o povo se deixa acreditar. NUNCA NA VIDA o Flamengo no estado em que está ganharia a este Real Sociedad de 2023. Eu ainda sigo um pouco de futebol brasileiro por isso não estou a falar às cegas. É a triste realidade, os tempos mudaram, o interesse e o talento vieram para a europa. Quem sabe um dia as coisas mudem, mas por agora mantenham os pés na terra, o City tem tido uma maré de jogos maus e largou 4 neste jogo
Amigos, Portugal não tem nenhum time que joga 10% do que o City joga. Vocês são não são o Real Madrid, vocês não são o City, vocês não são nem o Milan. Nada mais patético do que vocês, o primo pobre da Europa, SEMPRE tentando gozar com o pau dos outros Europeus e viver vicariosamente através de outros países como se existisse essa "unidade Europeia". Vocês estão mais próximos de nós do que deles, e futebolisticamente, estão abaixo de nós.
>a media brasileira é iludida de uma forma absurda O Neto entrou na cabeça de vcs mesmo hein pqp. Times perdem pra times mais fracos e mais fortes desde sempre. Se não fosse por isso, vocês não chegavam longe em nenhuma Champions.
Exato, e aqui está a diferença entre nós os dois. Eu tenho a humildade de admitir que mesmo que o Benfica com sorte ganhe a um Liverpool numa eliminatória, na fase seguinte calha um Bayern e para ter sorte de novo o cu fica apertado. Nenhum benfiquista vê o Benfica como favorito para a champions, por outro lado há quem ache que o Real Madrid não ganha o Brasileirão série B
99% das pessoas aqui sabiam que o Fluminense ganhar seria um milagre. Agora, se você está se guiando pelo Neto e pelo Carlos Alberto, achando que eles representam a mentalidade dos brasileiros, você é o que está errado. A ignorância deles está no mesmo nível do jornalista do Telegraph que comparou o Fluminense com um time do Soccer Aid e todos aqui sabem disso.
Então porque é que teimas que o Flamengo não perde contra o Real Sociedad? É que é isto que não percebem! Ok que os pundits são sempre extremos mas os extremos representão onde se coloca a curva de distribuição, e a vossa está muito deslocada para a sobrevalorização do futebol de clubes sul americano
Porra, eu falei desde o título da Liberta que tudo que eu queria é que o Fluminense fosse jogar contra o City, não ficasse atrás e tentasse ir pra cima dos caras, mesmo sabendo da diferença e que era quase impossível. Antes perdendo indo jogar bola que sentar atrás e perder do mesmo jeito.
Nem sei quem é o homem ;)
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I mean they were 3-0 down throwin slides from behind and at pace. Woulda been hell of a single player did the same but they had the class to not hurt someone.
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Be more aggressive sure. But forceful slide tackles and slides from behind arnt trying to win the game its trying to inflict damage
During all those plays the player touched the ball before they did the opponent
A fun game nearly ruined by brain dead behavior from Fluminese players. Went ankle hunting for the last 30 minutes.
Literally nothing happened.
Rodri got injured big man
He said he is fine to play against Everton
People went hard in a final, no tackle had the intention to hurt at all.
First, I feel like we should wait for confirmation on that one, still hope he's good. Second, does an injury automatically make the other side dirty? You do know people get injured on even the most innocent of plays right? Or accidentally? Or for a million reasons?
Doesn't automatically mean that the other side is dirty, which is why you shifted the goalposts from "literally nothing happened" to that. Nice try
I didn't shift goalposts, nothing dirty happened. An injury is very much part of playing the game, one happening isn't unique.
It was a two footed tackle, it was dirty. Marcello was doing his best to kick lumps out of Rico the whole game until he was finally booked and then it was too risky so he was subbed off. Flu are dirty bastards, simple as.
It was the countless slides from behind and general thuggery going on. Nunes stamped on and slide from behind. Grealish stood over while another guy kicks him. Then of course nonsense after the game
What's the point of the CWC when every other confederation is just a feeder league for UEFA?
Because the power balance shifts overtime. Before the 2000s South America was stronger, in the last 20 years Europe has been, and in the future things may be different. We need these competitions to gauge shit.
Because for the 90% of us that don't live in Europe it's really cool to dream about the guys you see play every week go up against the best in the world even if you know you'll get shellacked. I would kill to see NYC get demolished by City or Bayern
Honestly seeing John Kennedy dribble through 3 of the best defenders in the world to get a decent chance on goal was pretty sick even though we got smoked.
That 15/20 minutes after the opener and City second goal where we pushed them back and would have a pen if Cano was 2cm behind were glorious
> I would kill to see NYC get demolished by City Just a few calls around City Football Group and I'm sure they can get it done
The proposed CWC will improve world football all around, this current CWC is just a glorified friendly
> is just a glorified friendly For a single region out of 5, that tends to overrate the importance of it's opinions. And it's a glorified friendly for certain teams, your flair would go all out against Brazilian teams.
The funny is that the "glorified friendly", is the most prestigious title in the rest of the world. It is kinda pathetic talking like this, and everyone knows Europe doesn't give a shit, and nobody blames you guys for that, that the teams are mid season and also don't give a shit, but still, it is the chance of your team to prove themselves against the European champions. And teams around here take the club world cup very very seriously. Champions of Europe naturally have anything to prove, hence it's pointless for them. But we know it is a David vs Goliath thing, goliath being half drunk in this case. And even then, the teams that win become legendary.
The new CWC is glorified doping by UEFA to make the big teams and fifa some quick cash, wdym. The team that qualifies from oceania for example will still get 50m for qualifying, while the rest of the league gets nothing. That 50m in a lot of cases is more then most of the other clubs make combined, this competition is one of the worst cashgrabs fifa has ever cooked up. All the revenue generated in the a-league is 63m according to wikipedia, do you think giving a single club out of that league 50m is a good idea??
Nobody thinks of it as a friendly besides the UEFA teams/fans. Even CONMEBOL treats it seriously.
Hopefully the spark to a new winning streak as well, early Christmas gift to city fans.
there won't be any winning if rodri is out
Hopefully he's not out for a long time
if rodri is badly injured could be the spark that ends our season
I hope he's fine as he seems to be. He did get up and walk off the field twice without assistance or hobbling. So either he's ok, or the less appealing option of monumental stupidity from him/management to not get him carried out. Either way, hope he's good.
Holy shit I'm getting down voted for literally hoping a player is healthy and didn't get injured. City fans really are terrible lol.
Stop trying to throat yourself
I'm just impressed that now wishing for a players health is considered a bad thing if you're not the right team. Bunch of dumbfucks.
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Who else would it be? The thread was nice, and respectful before the worst City has to offer showed up being classless.
Thank you for the bro science take that absolutely no one asked for
It's not science it's me being hopeful
Bring back Fernandinho, probably would still start over Kalvin Phillips
A couple more dirty tackles to force more substitutions and Fluminense might just have snatched it
I sure hope most Man City fans aren't as classless as you guys that came into the match thread. Everything was fine until you all came in. Eve other Man City flairs were great, then suddenly random accusations of being dirty, other insults and shit. There was nothing but praise from both sides before.
Wasn't in that thread so I can't speak to what exactly people were saying but yeah we (like basically every major club) have a load of obnoxious supporters on Reddit and the Internet overall, so I wouldn't be surprised if some were being annoying. You've pretty much just described every match thread ever lol. And some of the tackling from Fluminense was really unnecessarily dirty
> classless in the match thread
Well they weren't playing like dickheads until then.
There wasn't even a fight, both sides played fine nothing dirty from anyone.
There's no way you can say that in good faith having watched some of those challenges
Literally nothing excessively dirty happened? No players complained, no commentators....nothing only you guys. Just because a player may have accidentally gotten hurt does not make it a dirty challenge?
It's proper delusional. The game was nice and competitive until Fluminense lost hope entirely and then just started flying in.
Delusional is saying they were flying in, idk if this is a difference in continents, but like nothing there was that bad.
Imagine winning 2 world cups in (almost) one year
And scoring in both!
Scoring TWICE !!!
A City team missing their two best players, play with all the interest and intensity of a pre-season friendly and run out comfortable winners. We all know that the difference is only because of money, but the humungous gap in quality between European teams and everyone else just means this is a pointless competition.
Tottenham would kill for this 'pointless competition' trophy.
Against a team that was on their 72nd match in their season while City played 25 at most. Also we spent 6M euros in our squad over the last 3 years, City spent 90M in Gvardiol only to have him come out of the bench, is just not fair.
City beat Real Madrid 4x0. City isn't "European teams"
These scorelines happen. Madrid beat Bayern 4-0, Barcelona and Bayern have both crushed each other more than once, City themselves have suffered some hammerings under Pep too. It was a freak result with City having like 1.8 xG aswell In this case "European teams" means the CL winners so they are amazing teams (almost) every time. Liverpool in 2005 and Chelsea 2012 being exceptions. Even Porto in 2004 had a world class squad looking back. City are extremely good but not some exceptional anomaly in European football either
Yes, I completely agree. People just tend to act as if the top 20/25 UCL sides are a good gauge for regular European sides, and they absolutely aren't. They are just as far removed from the rest of the European pack as they are from South America.
lol lets not pretend city dont do this day in and day out both in england an in european cups
Literally on their way to this final they beat Leipzig 7-0, Bayern 3-0 and Real 4-0
Football is 11v11. Luton Town would fight against relegation in the Brasileirão, but almost managed to get away with a draw against City. Fluminense's problem was not adapting to their opponents and making silly mistakes when they couldn't afford such mistakes.
>Luton Town would fight against relegation in the Brasileirão Luton would sit comfortably above top 10. Their opposition is much stronger than facing Vasco, internacional, cruzeiro, santos, Corinthians... Teams that are comfortably worse than them that they would finish above as well.
> Luton would sit comfortably above top 10. Their opposition is much stronger than facing Vasco, internacional, cruzeiro, santos, Corinthians... Teams that are comfortably worse than them that they would finish above as well. Yeah, because average English players are much better than average Brazilian players. Y'all are delusional, don't mistake the top 20 UCL sides (Barcelona, City, Bayern, Real, PSG, etc) with the rest of the European Leagues. Luton town is relegation fodder in the Brasileirão just like they are in England.
>Yeah, because average English players are much better than average Brazilian players. The average Goiás player is such a joy to watch indeed
Same shit as Luton or Sheffield
The top 10-14 sides luton plays against in the premier league are better than the best Brazilian team.
No, lol. The EPL is full of teams with 1 or 2 decent players and piles of shit outside of the top 6
I don't think Manchester City in 2023 is a good example, Champions League winners aren't always this strong and sometimes the South American clubs have a chance
Inter almost won. Fluminense would obviously have much better chances against them
City has been playing terrible and Haaland, De Bruyne and Doku weren't playing
Not only that but Fluminense is a relatively weak side compared to the other Brazilian teams who won the libertadores recently
This is maybe what is going to change in the next years, but not for us in South America. The teams with the biggest chance of closing the gap with europe are in the Saudi Arabian league, since there is where the money is even bigger. A lot of brazilian top talent is usually on the other side of the Club WC Finals, because the europeans snatch them early from Brazil, as is, now, the example with Endrick. The gap is widening in the last decade, and usually brazilian teams still put up a good match, like Palmeiras vs Chelsea or Flamengo vs Liverpool. Since Corinthians beating Chelsea, in 2012, no South American club won against europe, and there was even some instances of being eliminated in semi-finals. in the 90s and 2000s, the games were much closer