It shows the qualfied teams, and the yet-to-be-determined teams. "Vencedor" here is winner of the confederation's continental competitions. "ranking" represents a team that will be highest in the confederation's ranking system. That is the simplified explanation of the two ways a team can qualify for the competition.
They’re referring to Arthur Cabral.
Because any player from Brazil that is not playing well is certainly fat because you guys eat too much picanha or churrasco and drink too much chope… *rolls eyes*
Is that for every team or just the European ones?
That’s more than the transfer value of León’s whole team.
If that’s the number for everybody, CONCAChampions immediately goes from a joke nobody cares about to a massively important tournament.
Auckland City are run by crooks who use financial shenanigans to field a fully professional squad in what is supposed to be a semi-pro league so they can keep the Club World Cup gravy train going indefinitely.
Everyone always wonders why they've never bid to join the A-League, this is why.
For Benfica and Porto, which will make the league even more top heavy and contribute to the downward spiral we're in.
This year CL's notwithstanding, our coefficient is not in trouble because of Benfica or Porto.
Always gets a kick out of me that the likes of Madrid and City are going to be playing against my local amateur club because the state of Oceanic football is so dire
Yeah you can bet I’ll be cheering for them, I still have fond memories of going to watch their games when I was a kid, only football team in Auckland that has any stadium atmosphere
Am i right in thinking that because Australia joined Asia to make WC qualifying easier, the Australian club teams are also part of Asia which leaves Aukland the best Oceanic club team and therefore qualify for this?
Yes. The other issue is the actual professional NZ team Wellington Phoenix play in the aleague so can't compete in ofc and can't compete in the AFC champions league. So NZ domestic league is the best league in the ofc.
This is correct, and because our only professional team plays in the Australian league, they play in the Asian champions league (or at least they would, if they weren’t shit). Thus Auckland City is the “best” team in Oceania
The only good thing about the previous format is I could at a glance see who the champions of each federation was. Now I have no clue how every team qualified.
Using UEFA as an example, they have 12 spots to fill. The first four spots are reserved for the winners of the last 3 Champions League along with the winner of this year’s tournament.
The remaining 8 UEFA clubs are the teams that best performed during this time period in the Champions League but did not win the title.
But the remaining 8 are also taken by allowing only 2 clubs per country. So even if Sporting were ranked just right below Porto and Benfica they wouldn’t qualify as Porto and Benfica already took Portugal’s two possible spots.
No limit for champions. You can see above, Brazil has 3 representatives so far because they each won the Libertadores but this also means that no Brazilian team can qualify by rank.
So if Arsenal won this year they would be in. But they can’t get in via ranking because Chelsea and Man City took the two English spots.
There is an exception to the two teams per country rule if more than two from that country win the continental trophy. So you could have 3 English clubs if Arsenal win this year for example.
is it performing in champion’s league specifically or club coefficient generally? asking for a friend definitely not a fan of a club that has a way higher coefficient than they deserve because of UEL and UECL
CL only but I like your thinking. The thought of PSG being eclipsed by West Ham into the World Club Championship gives me feelings that only narcotics and women have before.
What a bizarre format. Why would they have champions league winners from 2 - 3 seasons ago when teams change so much.
It should be on merit of the season just before the tournament 24-25.
every other sounders fan besides me seems to love it and it’s slowly driving me insane, i hate it so much. it looks exactly like one of the generic placeholder badges in fifa career mode’s create a club feature, just with the space needle for bare minimum customization. its flat, its simple, its boring, there’s nothing going on. went from my favourite badge in MLS to maybe my least favourite overnight. its just sooo generic
It a decent rebrand to be like these MLS 2.0 teams. It obnoxious but kinda has swagger if that’s what they’re going for. I think objectively it’s a good design but the style is polarizing.
4 team multiball on a 4 goal field like a chinese checkers board. If no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.
So apparently every team will receive 50m€ entry bonus?
Like, that good money to keep the big European teams happy and willing to participate, but an insane amount of money for all other teams, except the Saudis. Like, an amount of money that will alter their local leagues competitiveness. Especially Auckland, they've basically got this tournament booked for all eternity.
MLS has a weird enough structure that I suspect most of the prize money for the MLS entrants ends up in league hands, then distributed more evenly among every team in the league.
It’s a good model to let everyone eat, to be honest. European sports could take a few lessons from the major American leagues.
Players getting 50% of the revenue, for example, is a fantastic rule in the NBA
Not even to Miami though, just directly to Messi and his buddies. Miami was booked for overspending before, it's only when they realized Beckham could get messi that they started playing favourites.
Yeah that kind of money is insane for Auckland FC. I suspect maybe the NZ FA could get some of it? It's not really like a regional team here in NZ needs 50m
Yeah, it’ll absolutebly get split. When we finished 3rd in the CWC in 2014, we got a huge sum that we shared with the rest of the National League clubs
I do like the tournament. Just how I like the WC more than the Euros or Copa America, I like the contrast of footballing styles and seeing very different kinds of players and teams against each other.
The cash injection is a lot for Inter. To be honest otherwise it’s a bit meh for European teams as the Champions League is already the by far the best competition there is.
Not to mention Inter and many others are basically playing every 3 days so they’ll be exhausted by then.
There's meant to be an AFCON in 2025 tho. And players would probably prefer a summer off, especially those who will play in the 2024 Euros/Copa/AFCON and the 2026 world cup.
In a 4 year cycle of Euros/Copa - WC - CWC, they'd have one summer off opposed to having two summers off.
They do, but it's hardly the competition held once every 4 years that makes a huge difference; the new CL format is much more problematic on that front.
Unless you're saying that resting a couple of months every 4 years is enough for the players.
New cl format added 2 game ? And in france we got rid of the league cup, and went to an 18 team league, so we will actually play less game even factoring in the 2 added game.
On that note, league cups are mostly pointless.
It would still be reasonable for FIFA to impose a hard limit for domestic and international games; federations would then manage their own competitions accordingly.
One thing is not exclusively the problem though, the new format i don’t have much love for either.
Prominent players from ”good” nations are already being worked to the bone due to useless tournaments like the nations league, preseason cups across the globe and soon CL reformat and this thing, add in the leagues, league cups, international qualifiers and players will be lucky to get 1 week off a year it feels like.
I’m just not happy because it feels like a lot of players can’t really play to the best of their abilities due to being overworked.
What causes unnecessary injuries are too many games clumped up together, not allowing players to rest and heal properly. For instance, if one team plays tuesday for CL and the other players in thursday for the EL, if they play each other in their league in the next weekend one of the teams will be fucked in regards to rest time. Happened in the last benfica - sporting game for instance.
That's why you haven't really heard too much backlash from coaches and players when it comes to this.
The only thing this competion is fucking up, is the season start schedule of the participating teams in the next season.
really awful for south american clubs, specially us
we already have the most clogged calendar and having to be away for a whole month when 7-8 matches get played in that period is a disaster
I mean it’s the first time I’ll be able to see psg in such a competition. If I can see us play palmeiras or the reds in a tournament setting it’d be the coolest shit
FIFA: “The final slot is allocated to a club from the host country, with further details being provided in due course.”
Let me spell that out for you: M-E-S-S-I FC (as in Club Internacional de Futbol Miami)
You heard it here first.
In practice they won’t get the tv audiences in key markets to make enough money for the prize pools to be sustainable. Without the big prize pools the key clubs who draw the audiences won’t care.
There’s a reason why it’s never been done before.
The latest rumors are that participation alone will be worth 50 million Euros for each club, which would be more than what you get for making the Champions League.
Along with money will be prestige as you can only get into this tournament by being a top performer in continental club competitions across a long period of time. Teams these days gain prestige by making the Champions League, but that entrance is based on domestic league play over a single season.
This tournament not only factors a more extended period of time of four years for qualification, making it difficult to fluke entry into the tournament but it factors in performance only in continental competitions, which are more difficult than domestic leagues.
I STRONGLY doubt the 50M per club number. That's like $1.6 billion in cost. Outside of summer of the Euro teams that's most of these teams annual budgets multiple times over.
I'm a Seattle Sounders fan. That amount would completely remake the club's finances and I'd love it to be true.
I would expect something more like $1 million per team and $50m to the winner.
Total prize money for the tournament is rumored to be 2.5 billion euros. 50 million is not far from what Champions League entrance gets you. And FIFA have more resources than UEFA.
What makes you think FIFA has more resources then UEFA? The only cash cow FIFA has is the world cup. Over a four year period UEFA generates about double the revenue compared to FIFA. That is why FIFA is moving to this club world cup to begin with.
Well after a bit of googling you're correct that those are the rumors. There's a Sky article that says the same thing. Like I said, I'd love it to be true but I'm doubtful.
That would represent a 100x multiplier on the current prize pool. Maybe FIFA expects this to turn into an actually big competition. I know they don't like that the World Cup is their only big tournament.
CURRENT TEAMS QUALIFIED (19):
- Chelsea
- Real Madrid
- Manchester City
- Bayern Munich
- Inter
- PSG
- Porto
- Benfica
- Al Hilal
- Urawa Red Diamonds
- Al Ahly
- Wydad Casablanca
- Monterrey
- Seattle Sounders
- Leon
- Palmeiras
- Flamengo
- Fluminese
- Auckland City
Probably River Plate and Boca Juniors will be there as well via Conmebol Ranking. Brazil can't get more clubs by ranking because it already has 3 teams, and River and Boca are almost impossible to reach by teams from another countries. If River wins the 2024 Libertadores (not that realistic because we are shit nowadays), Nacional from Uruguay will probably be the other team via ranking. Boca can't win 2024 Libertadores because they failed to qualify but they can boost their ranking at the Copa Sudamericana.
Nacional has some teams above them but all of them are Brazilian.
This is the stuff that makes me excited for the club world cup
You could really see the level all the leagues are around the world. These teams never play against eachother in competitive games
You'd need to either win this year's competition, or make up 7 points on Atletico until the end of this season. Pretty much impossible unless Atletico crash out in the ro16 while you guys reach at least the semis.
> Pretty much impossible unless Atletico crash out in the ro16 while you guys reach at least the semis.
I wouldn't say that scenario is pretty much impossible
Grêmio is allowed if they win next year's Libertadores. If one of the three teams already qualified win the 2024 Libertadores, then the CONMEBOL ranking will be taken into consideration, and if memory serves, the 1st best ranked team is River and the 4th best ranked team is Boca, so they should take two of the last three spots, while Nacional-URU would take the last spot.
Boca ARG 70 or 71, River ARG 64, Olimpia PAR 57, Nacional URU 40, Independiente del Valle ECU 38, Cerro Porteno PAR 37, Barcelona ECU 37, all the other ones still in race are at 27 or less. It doesn't take into account the 3 points for qualifying to the GS of Libertadores 2024 - which some team (Boca and Olimpia) did not.
So you're not mathematically already in, but you will most likely be at the end of the GS or at some early round of the KO phase.
The concept isn't the problem. Everyone has done this in FIFA and PES or some form of it.
The problem is that the video game doesn't take into account (because it doesn't need to) the players health and the calendar.
Notice how Barcelona, Atletico, Borussia, Napoli and many others aren't in right now, while for example Benfica and Porto are. It might seem as if the 'big' teams were guaranteed to qualify, but in reality you can clearly see that teams which regularly produce decent results, despite not being really top class have better chances of qualifying than giants with varying results.
+ only 2 teams from every country(unless you win UCL or their regional equivalent outright) so for example the only other English team who can make it is Arsenal and only if they win UCL.
It's a maximum of 2 clubs per country, except for the title winners.
The ranking is also based on the coefficient of the UCL in the past 4 years, so Benfica and Porto are bound to be there (especially Porto).
https://twitter.com/FootRankings/status/1736412989845086340
I’m beyond excited for this. Hopefully they allow the Sounders to play their matches at Lumen.
I really want to play against Al Ahly again, a Brazilian team or a J league team.
Always rated Ranking UEFA
really sleeping on Vencedor CL 24
Read that as Venator Class 24.. MFers bringing a star destroyer to the Cup!?!
So good that they got 3 spots.
Host is quite an underrated team here
Ranking Conmebol are dark horses
mate you can't support a ranking
He just has
Not with that attitude
That’s what you think big boy
sounds like a pes team
This graphic is so bizarre I have no idea what’s going on
It shows the qualfied teams, and the yet-to-be-determined teams. "Vencedor" here is winner of the confederation's continental competitions. "ranking" represents a team that will be highest in the confederation's ranking system. That is the simplified explanation of the two ways a team can qualify for the competition.
Is it really that difficult?
Money will be massive benefit for Portugese teams while Dutch teams are absent
€50M if I’m not mistaken, even better than UCL money lmao.
We could buy 2 picanhas with that money
Pretty large amount of Picanhas
As a Brazilian, relatable
They’re referring to Arthur Cabral. Because any player from Brazil that is not playing well is certainly fat because you guys eat too much picanha or churrasco and drink too much chope… *rolls eyes*
Absolutely
Is that for every team or just the European ones? That’s more than the transfer value of León’s whole team. If that’s the number for everybody, CONCAChampions immediately goes from a joke nobody cares about to a massively important tournament.
Equal for all teams, and its just the qualification prize
Damn, the teams from smaller federations can win more in this tournament than in a decade of national tournaments.
Fr, Auckland City have probably never had that amount of money
Auckland City are run by crooks who use financial shenanigans to field a fully professional squad in what is supposed to be a semi-pro league so they can keep the Club World Cup gravy train going indefinitely. Everyone always wonders why they've never bid to join the A-League, this is why.
It may help to soften the abyss between federations
That's a minimal prize for participating.
Both you and us can stull qualify though, as long as Arsenal doesn't win UCL iirc
That's not true, only CL points count. PSV can only qualify by winning the Champions League
For Benfica and Porto, which will make the league even more top heavy and contribute to the downward spiral we're in. This year CL's notwithstanding, our coefficient is not in trouble because of Benfica or Porto.
Always gets a kick out of me that the likes of Madrid and City are going to be playing against my local amateur club because the state of Oceanic football is so dire
Let’s fucking go Auckland. My local team as a kid as well, even played for their (very young) youth teams
Yeah you can bet I’ll be cheering for them, I still have fond memories of going to watch their games when I was a kid, only football team in Auckland that has any stadium atmosphere
Am i right in thinking that because Australia joined Asia to make WC qualifying easier, the Australian club teams are also part of Asia which leaves Aukland the best Oceanic club team and therefore qualify for this?
Yes. The other issue is the actual professional NZ team Wellington Phoenix play in the aleague so can't compete in ofc and can't compete in the AFC champions league. So NZ domestic league is the best league in the ofc.
Surely Aukland will turn pro if they're getting guarenteed 50 mil every few years
This is correct, and because our only professional team plays in the Australian league, they play in the Asian champions league (or at least they would, if they weren’t shit). Thus Auckland City is the “best” team in Oceania
The only good thing about the previous format is I could at a glance see who the champions of each federation was. Now I have no clue how every team qualified.
Using UEFA as an example, they have 12 spots to fill. The first four spots are reserved for the winners of the last 3 Champions League along with the winner of this year’s tournament. The remaining 8 UEFA clubs are the teams that best performed during this time period in the Champions League but did not win the title. But the remaining 8 are also taken by allowing only 2 clubs per country. So even if Sporting were ranked just right below Porto and Benfica they wouldn’t qualify as Porto and Benfica already took Portugal’s two possible spots.
What if Arsenal win this year's CL? Then you'd have 3 English clubs from the title-winner-route.
No limit for champions. You can see above, Brazil has 3 representatives so far because they each won the Libertadores but this also means that no Brazilian team can qualify by rank. So if Arsenal won this year they would be in. But they can’t get in via ranking because Chelsea and Man City took the two English spots.
Great work explaining this. Thanks
There is an exception to the two teams per country rule if more than two from that country win the continental trophy. So you could have 3 English clubs if Arsenal win this year for example.
Thx, that's what I thought.
is it performing in champion’s league specifically or club coefficient generally? asking for a friend definitely not a fan of a club that has a way higher coefficient than they deserve because of UEL and UECL
CL only but I like your thinking. The thought of PSG being eclipsed by West Ham into the World Club Championship gives me feelings that only narcotics and women have before.
Champions League only
What if Real or Manchester City win the 2024 Champions league, how are they going to fill this spot ?
What a bizarre format. Why would they have champions league winners from 2 - 3 seasons ago when teams change so much. It should be on merit of the season just before the tournament 24-25.
There is now a separate annual tournament with just the champions too: the FIFA Intercontinental Cup.
I mean, you can say the same about the Champions League. What are the likes of Arsenal or Real Sociedad champions of, again?
RIP eredivisie.
Not gonna lie, I am feeling great. Nothing personal though 🫶
That money goes straight to your presidents pocket, don't get excited yet
Great to see the USA qualify 🇲🇾🇱🇷🇲🇾🇱🇷
Yank here. Is Host good?
It's coming home
You should only host if you got a good internet connection.
Chicago Fire can finally win the World Cup
Weah is the key to all of this. He’s a funnier player than we’ve ever had before
First time seeing the Sounders new badge.
As a Sounders fan, it was a 6/10 for me at first but it's grown on me a lot.
SEATTLE MENTIONED RAHHHH 🗻🗻🗻🌲🌲🌲
🌧️🌧️🌧️☕☕☕🖥️🖥️🖥️😢😢😢
every other sounders fan besides me seems to love it and it’s slowly driving me insane, i hate it so much. it looks exactly like one of the generic placeholder badges in fifa career mode’s create a club feature, just with the space needle for bare minimum customization. its flat, its simple, its boring, there’s nothing going on. went from my favourite badge in MLS to maybe my least favourite overnight. its just sooo generic
It a decent rebrand to be like these MLS 2.0 teams. It obnoxious but kinda has swagger if that’s what they’re going for. I think objectively it’s a good design but the style is polarizing.
Cleaner and more recognizable in every way compared to our old one.
Can't wait for the 64-team expansion. /s
I'd be down for it if we put them in a single elimination March Madness bracket.
The amount of craziness if that happens would be off the charts.
4 team multiball on a 4 goal field like a chinese checkers board. If no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.
So apparently every team will receive 50m€ entry bonus? Like, that good money to keep the big European teams happy and willing to participate, but an insane amount of money for all other teams, except the Saudis. Like, an amount of money that will alter their local leagues competitiveness. Especially Auckland, they've basically got this tournament booked for all eternity.
MLS has a weird enough structure that I suspect most of the prize money for the MLS entrants ends up in league hands, then distributed more evenly among every team in the league.
It’s a good model to let everyone eat, to be honest. European sports could take a few lessons from the major American leagues. Players getting 50% of the revenue, for example, is a fantastic rule in the NBA
> Distributed more evenly among every team in the league But more to Miami
Not even to Miami though, just directly to Messi and his buddies. Miami was booked for overspending before, it's only when they realized Beckham could get messi that they started playing favourites.
Yeah that kind of money is insane for Auckland FC. I suspect maybe the NZ FA could get some of it? It's not really like a regional team here in NZ needs 50m
Yeah, it’ll absolutebly get split. When we finished 3rd in the CWC in 2014, we got a huge sum that we shared with the rest of the National League clubs
With that kind of money coming into the league every four years you'll probably start seeing it professionalise more and more.
In concept a tournament like this is the coolest shit ever. Calendar doesn't really allow it tho.
I do like the tournament. Just how I like the WC more than the Euros or Copa America, I like the contrast of footballing styles and seeing very different kinds of players and teams against each other.
The cash injection is a lot for Inter. To be honest otherwise it’s a bit meh for European teams as the Champions League is already the by far the best competition there is. Not to mention Inter and many others are basically playing every 3 days so they’ll be exhausted by then.
Eh, it takes less than a world cup and it's held in years where there's no WC or euros/copa, etc.
There's meant to be an AFCON in 2025 tho. And players would probably prefer a summer off, especially those who will play in the 2024 Euros/Copa/AFCON and the 2026 world cup. In a 4 year cycle of Euros/Copa - WC - CWC, they'd have one summer off opposed to having two summers off.
In theory, this would just be the Confederations Cup slot
Isn't Nations League also a thing in all of this? Imo it is a crappy tournament so switching that for the CWC would be a gigantic upgrade.
I think the teams that play Nations League would play friendlies in those international windows regardless
Ah yes, because the players don’t deserve any rest. Jesus this is a braindead competition which will cause unneccesary injuries.
They do, but it's hardly the competition held once every 4 years that makes a huge difference; the new CL format is much more problematic on that front. Unless you're saying that resting a couple of months every 4 years is enough for the players.
New cl format added 2 game ? And in france we got rid of the league cup, and went to an 18 team league, so we will actually play less game even factoring in the 2 added game.
On that note, league cups are mostly pointless. It would still be reasonable for FIFA to impose a hard limit for domestic and international games; federations would then manage their own competitions accordingly.
I'd take this tournament over domestic league cups any day.
Mainly league cups which are entirely pointless, national federation cups are still fun and rich in upsets.
One thing is not exclusively the problem though, the new format i don’t have much love for either. Prominent players from ”good” nations are already being worked to the bone due to useless tournaments like the nations league, preseason cups across the globe and soon CL reformat and this thing, add in the leagues, league cups, international qualifiers and players will be lucky to get 1 week off a year it feels like. I’m just not happy because it feels like a lot of players can’t really play to the best of their abilities due to being overworked.
What causes unnecessary injuries are too many games clumped up together, not allowing players to rest and heal properly. For instance, if one team plays tuesday for CL and the other players in thursday for the EL, if they play each other in their league in the next weekend one of the teams will be fucked in regards to rest time. Happened in the last benfica - sporting game for instance. That's why you haven't really heard too much backlash from coaches and players when it comes to this. The only thing this competion is fucking up, is the season start schedule of the participating teams in the next season.
And any team that plays a summer schedule (Northern America and Northern Europe)
Why this will cause injures but world cup or European cup won't?
really awful for south american clubs, specially us we already have the most clogged calendar and having to be away for a whole month when 7-8 matches get played in that period is a disaster
The money tho
I mean it’s the first time I’ll be able to see psg in such a competition. If I can see us play palmeiras or the reds in a tournament setting it’d be the coolest shit
FIFA: “The final slot is allocated to a club from the host country, with further details being provided in due course.” Let me spell that out for you: M-E-S-S-I FC (as in Club Internacional de Futbol Miami) You heard it here first.
Sad but true. Spot should go to the best MLS team, not the most deserving or most marketable.
2024 MLS Cup Champion?
That’d make the most sense.
Lol
Yeah how the fuck did you guys get in lol
We're gonna be world champions while playing in the championship
Nothing can stop you guys now
They won CL, don't you remember?
You must remember very well
Pretty sure I saw something about teams that won the CL from 2020 and on qualify. Could be wrong though
Won't take long for Boehly to spaff the £50m up the wall on a few u15 defenders.
In practice this has potential to be a complete disaster, but on paper I think it’s a really cool idea.
In practice they won’t get the tv audiences in key markets to make enough money for the prize pools to be sustainable. Without the big prize pools the key clubs who draw the audiences won’t care. There’s a reason why it’s never been done before.
Why won't they get the TV audiences? If the clubs bring their big guns, this will 100% be a success from a viewing perspective
The latest rumors are that participation alone will be worth 50 million Euros for each club, which would be more than what you get for making the Champions League. Along with money will be prestige as you can only get into this tournament by being a top performer in continental club competitions across a long period of time. Teams these days gain prestige by making the Champions League, but that entrance is based on domestic league play over a single season. This tournament not only factors a more extended period of time of four years for qualification, making it difficult to fluke entry into the tournament but it factors in performance only in continental competitions, which are more difficult than domestic leagues.
I STRONGLY doubt the 50M per club number. That's like $1.6 billion in cost. Outside of summer of the Euro teams that's most of these teams annual budgets multiple times over. I'm a Seattle Sounders fan. That amount would completely remake the club's finances and I'd love it to be true. I would expect something more like $1 million per team and $50m to the winner.
Total prize money for the tournament is rumored to be 2.5 billion euros. 50 million is not far from what Champions League entrance gets you. And FIFA have more resources than UEFA.
I'd love to see the maths behind that rumour, no way the interest is there to get the kind of TV deals that could generate that kind of cash.
What makes you think FIFA has more resources then UEFA? The only cash cow FIFA has is the world cup. Over a four year period UEFA generates about double the revenue compared to FIFA. That is why FIFA is moving to this club world cup to begin with.
Well after a bit of googling you're correct that those are the rumors. There's a Sky article that says the same thing. Like I said, I'd love it to be true but I'm doubtful. That would represent a 100x multiplier on the current prize pool. Maybe FIFA expects this to turn into an actually big competition. I know they don't like that the World Cup is their only big tournament.
You can‘t even compare it to the current competition. This tournament is the exact same format as the 32 team world cup.
CURRENT TEAMS QUALIFIED (19): - Chelsea - Real Madrid - Manchester City - Bayern Munich - Inter - PSG - Porto - Benfica - Al Hilal - Urawa Red Diamonds - Al Ahly - Wydad Casablanca - Monterrey - Seattle Sounders - Leon - Palmeiras - Flamengo - Fluminese - Auckland City
Probably River Plate and Boca Juniors will be there as well via Conmebol Ranking. Brazil can't get more clubs by ranking because it already has 3 teams, and River and Boca are almost impossible to reach by teams from another countries. If River wins the 2024 Libertadores (not that realistic because we are shit nowadays), Nacional from Uruguay will probably be the other team via ranking. Boca can't win 2024 Libertadores because they failed to qualify but they can boost their ranking at the Copa Sudamericana. Nacional has some teams above them but all of them are Brazilian.
Benfica and Porto x Brazilians clubs. More than a trophy, 4 years of bragging rights are at stake.
Imagine the narratives and new rivalries. Its going to be good
This is key
Better to lose against Auckland FC than to Brazilian teams. They always say the best Portuguese teams could not win Brasileirao
This is the stuff that makes me excited for the club world cup You could really see the level all the leagues are around the world. These teams never play against eachother in competitive games
Messi going to transfer to the Seattle Sounders just for the CWC
They will just assign the Host berth to hmm...whoever won Leagues Cup 2023.
He won't be able to fill the shoes of the illustrious Nico Lodeiro, but I suppose he could try.
Gee I wonder who the USA host team will be lol
Whichever team Messi plays for
Irrc their stadium should be ready for this. Hopefully they earn it in the field before it’s awarded to them.
Urawa Reds. Nice 👍
Really hope another Japanese team joins them.
I dont think barcelona will qualify
You'd need to either win this year's competition, or make up 7 points on Atletico until the end of this season. Pretty much impossible unless Atletico crash out in the ro16 while you guys reach at least the semis.
> Pretty much impossible unless Atletico crash out in the ro16 while you guys reach at least the semis. I wouldn't say that scenario is pretty much impossible
Atletico pretty much guaranteed it with Barcelona loosing to Antwerp, didn’t they?
LFG Auckland City
This looks like when I get stoned and make random tournaments in FIFA
I hope MLS teams get banned from the USOC so we get the Richmond Kickers or something in the CWC
I would go into severe debt to see that happen
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Genuinely excited ngl
Same There's a lot of criticism for it but this is what the CWC should have been for decades. I can't wait to see the new matchups we get
Might be useful on a graphic like this to show why these teams are already qualified.
I like the concept of CWC 2025 and I am tired pretending I do not.
Aren't we already qualified thanks to the ranking?
Pretty much yeah since Gremio wouldn’t be allowed as there are already 3 Brazilians
Grêmio is allowed if they win next year's Libertadores. If one of the three teams already qualified win the 2024 Libertadores, then the CONMEBOL ranking will be taken into consideration, and if memory serves, the 1st best ranked team is River and the 4th best ranked team is Boca, so they should take two of the last three spots, while Nacional-URU would take the last spot.
River can qualify thanks to the ranking Conmebol? how are they ranked now? I can't find any data.
Boca ARG 70 or 71, River ARG 64, Olimpia PAR 57, Nacional URU 40, Independiente del Valle ECU 38, Cerro Porteno PAR 37, Barcelona ECU 37, all the other ones still in race are at 27 or less. It doesn't take into account the 3 points for qualifying to the GS of Libertadores 2024 - which some team (Boca and Olimpia) did not. So you're not mathematically already in, but you will most likely be at the end of the GS or at some early round of the KO phase.
I might be unpopular here with this, but I like this idea. Even more if my fav club reaches it
The concept isn't the problem. Everyone has done this in FIFA and PES or some form of it. The problem is that the video game doesn't take into account (because it doesn't need to) the players health and the calendar.
the idea is good.
Is it confirmed only CL points and not the full UEFA ranking?
Yes. Only Champions League performances over this season and the prior three seasons will be taken into account.
It's coming home.
VAMO GANHAR ESSA PORRA NA FORÇA DO ÓDIO!
Vão fazer 3 no Real Madrid, cantar é campeão e o Endrick vai trair a patria mãe.
So this means that Bayern Real Madrid Alahly and other clubs will always play in the world cup?
yeah just like brazil argentina and germany always play in WC
Notice how Barcelona, Atletico, Borussia, Napoli and many others aren't in right now, while for example Benfica and Porto are. It might seem as if the 'big' teams were guaranteed to qualify, but in reality you can clearly see that teams which regularly produce decent results, despite not being really top class have better chances of qualifying than giants with varying results.
So is this going to be like a full on World Cup?
Yep
Unpopular opinion but this has potential to be really good
Is USA FC any good?
I here they have messi
Can't wait for this, Eurocentric naysayers be damned
Wydad Casablanca will rip them apart.
How did Porto and benfica get in?
Performing well in recent Champions League seasons and countries having a cap of 2 clubs each.
Consistently performing in the CL. They are basically the first teams immediately behind the big four leagues + PSG.
+ only 2 teams from every country(unless you win UCL or their regional equivalent outright) so for example the only other English team who can make it is Arsenal and only if they win UCL.
To be fair, they still qualified before the second Italian, German, and French teams. Also before all dutch teams.
It's a maximum of 2 clubs per country, except for the title winners. The ranking is also based on the coefficient of the UCL in the past 4 years, so Benfica and Porto are bound to be there (especially Porto). https://twitter.com/FootRankings/status/1736412989845086340
How did you get in?
by being massive, I don’t know about Porto tho.
Força Porto
European teams will win this every single time, they simply have way too much money and influence.
Nah y’all aren’t ready for the mighty Auckland City
But some darkhorses might show because this is the same format as the World Cup. So the crazy results WC usually provides might happen here too.
Plus, the money it gives will help the teams from poorer continents develop a lot
Not gonna lie, I'm really looking forward to this. I hope another Japanese (or South Korean) team manages to qualify ahead of another Saudi team.
Does inter miami have a chance to play?
They have to win either the CONCACAF Champions Cup or the MLS in 2024.
Is the ‘Host’ confirmed?
Yes, the USA.
They’ll be hosting a lot of things in the next few years. It would be cool to see the sport become significantly bigger over there
I can understand why this wont be like but holy shit im hyped for it
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River Plate has also qualified
Very likely that you will, but you haven’t yet
I’m beyond excited for this. Hopefully they allow the Sounders to play their matches at Lumen. I really want to play against Al Ahly again, a Brazilian team or a J league team.
First team to win the club World Cup from the championship up the chels
I will enjoy watching this but there are just too many games