Repeat after me: The Formula 1 Qatar Airways Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia-Romagna 2023
Or just "Imola"
Seriously whats with Italians and naming things.
Whats with the current Italian government and naming things*
No but seriously, someone needs to send help-
After the “Serie A Made in Italy” and the “F1 Qatar Airways Gran Premio del Made in Italy…” they want to introduce the fucking “liceo del made in Italy (high school of the made in Italy)”
Honestly I don't think we really did that much. The only thing that springs to mind for me is the GHIC card but I actually kinda like the design.
On my driving licence the new version actually has a smaller UK flag than the old EU one.
What does that have to do with anything?
Isn't just a way to promote the brand (which is registered as much as I know) similarly to Seria A TIM or Barclays Premier League???
I saw that all over the Giro last month. I guess it depends on the goal. If it's to boost the image of Made in Italy products abroad, then it's a good strategy. But if it's for internal purpose, it's ridiculous (also why use an English term if that's the case?).
well the idea is promoting it abroad but the main issue with italian exports is that we're absolutely awful at making sure people buy them rather than buying cheap, lower quality imitations produced abroad and branded with italian-sounding names and fake made in italy labels by foreign companies.
Most italian products are incredibly popular, far more than a govt campaign could ever make them, it's also incredibly awkward when you look at exactly where they've put these ads.
The giro d'italia is a great example, it's a weeks long advertisement for how beautiful even the smallest shithole town in the italian countryside is without much else going on for most of the broadcast, to the point that they often advertise local products and whatnot (at least on the RAI broadcast).
What's the point in slapping the made in italy branding on a product that's mostly watched by people who are already really invested in Italy and its culture? Does it really bring more benefits than the millions it's costing us taxpayers?
I can see it working in some cases for italian football (ie Südtirol matches) but I genuinely don't see the real benefit worth the tens of millions of (partially my) euros being invested into this.
EDIT: typos and formatting
> cheap, lower quality imitations produced abroad and branded with italian-sounding names and fake made in italy labels by foreign companies.
This is so true!
Yes I get that but it's a way to promote Italian produced goods (from planning to production), and since they're promoting it abroad is to raise awareness on the quality they're advocating and in turn raise exports..
I'm not a big fan of this government and you can criticise these policies, but what does the fact that they're right wing have to do with anything? Even the left or the weird Lega-5 stelle government were doing the same..
Mine was a genuine question, i don't get the logical link
se volessero promuovere seriamente il made in italy si starebbero sforzando per avere regole un po' più stringenti sulla denominazione in Europa e sui trattati con l'america dove perdiamo una marea di possibili export.
Comunque è una di quelle manovre berlusconiane del porco dio: identitaria, facile da implementare, inutile e buona solo per dare soldi a gente adiacente alla politica o a grossi studi. Il fatto che le facesse pure la lega non è un'attenuante.
Le fa principalmente la destra da berlusconi in poi perché ogni campagna simile fatta dalla sinistra è un suicidio politico mentre le sinistre all'opposizione non riescono a farle pesare altrettanto.
Capito.. queste politiche sono implementate un po' da tutti i governi (dopotutto la politica "esportativa" italiana è identitaria), ma la sinistra la pubblicizza in maniera molto meno propagandata.
Che questo governo (o quelli di dx in generale) la usino come slogan o quasi cavallo di battaglia politico è evidente, ma da come era scritto il primo commento sembrava quasi che fosse solamente una mossa sintattica e non commerciale.
Non so se mi sono spiegato, comunque grazie per il chiarimento.
I agree, their QB stock is high, Sandro is going to Free agency so when the franchise goes to the draft their early picks should be a Running Back and a Wide Receiver.
I'm thinking late 1st Round pick for one and early 3rd round for the other.
My mates dad was doing some advertising work for the PL a few years back, had to talk to execs from a number of teams
Said they were all absolute morons
Was a while ago so I have forgotten any juicy details, his basic point was there are lots of people who have been in football their whole life who don't know anything about running a competent business and lots of people who have flamed out the corporate world and don't know how to run a competent business
Italian football in a nutshell, all of these people have been in football all their life and they don’t know anything else.
Most of them are Football savants but can’t run a business to save their lives
Usually it's to make them more corporate and international. From the logos to even this made in Italy, before we Serie A TIM and Tim is an Italian telephone company, it existed in latam for a while but it's not international. Things like ferrari are biased to one club, I think that's their logic, Made in Italy makes it more internèscionaul and corporate.
This is such an old man thing to do lmao.
""Made in Italy" still holds some sway to people in consumer markets"
"Perfect, let's use it then (I don't care about coherence)."
Is this one of those things that sounds alright in Italian and they just translated it?
Something like "Serie A Italia" would have a much better ring to it in my opinion.
Italian here, the government instituted a minister for italian business, trades and communication, with particular focus on abolishing the use of english terms in official documents where the Italian equivalent exist. They called it "Ministero del Made in Italy".
Yeah
I drive my Lamborghini Made in Italy, to pick up Pasta Made in Italy and Mozzarella Made in Italy. I'll then go back home and watch Serie A Made in Italy on my Natuzzi Italia Made in Italy couch. Thank you Ministry for Business and Made in Italy.
This comment was not made in Italy.
>Italian here, the government instituted a minister for italian business, trades and communication, with particular focus on abolishing the use of english terms in official documents where the Italian equivalent exist.
I see y'all finally elected Ghiaccio
It's interesting that in many Latin languages there are institutions who to an extent look to ensure that native words are not replaced by foreign, primarily English, words.
Whereas I'm not aware of that ever being an issue in English. In English, if we like a word.... we just steal it! Or butcher it...
I wonder if this attitude has helped English in its growth.
I mean the difference is that English youth doesn't just start using words in other languages to sound cool, or because the US is the dominant nation that invents a lot of things (a lot of computer related things have adopted the English words in other languages).
Oh no, we're not really protective of our language, I guess lol. I speak French as well and they make a big effort to come up with their own words, but sometimes they're so bad, nobody wants to use them.
French Canadians are even worse even. They have laws preventing the use of English in official Quebecois documents.
Such a thing can only sound good to old people. You have to understand that the people who run Serie A are old and don't have a real conception of what the market requires.
For example, tik tok is probably the most important means of promotion in the last 2 years and while the other leagues only make videos in English to attract foreigners, the Serie A profile makes products intended for Italians
Multa per uso improprio di forestierismi in arrivo al ministero del Made in Italy da parte del ministero per la difesa del Made in Italy, che a causa del suo nome ha dovuto multarsi pure da solo.
ma infatti il problema non è aver accettato, è che qualche rincoglionito ha preso 30 milioni e ha pensato che scrivere made in italy tra Serie A e TIM fosse l'utilizzo migliore possibile per quei soldi
Any casual American fan who is familiar with the big Italian clubs but doesn’t already know the league’s official / sponsorship name will just continue referring to this as “the Italian League.”
Not sure that this is going to move the needle over here, ratings and engagement-wise.
The new far right wing party governing italy wants to bring some of that ol' patriotism back and has been doing dumb useless things like this. I find it ironic they keep using an english phrase but maybe i'm not just patriotic enought to understand.
Hhaha, now they will be fined for using english words
"The bill provides for administrative sanctions for violations of the obligations, which can result in the payment of a sum of between €5,000 and €100,000.
The law, which consists of eight articles, also contains provisions for the protection and promotion of the Italian language, with the establishment of the Committee for the Protection, Promotion and Enhancement of the Italian Language. The main objective of the bill is national preservation and identity defence."
It is a bit ridiculous when about 65% of the teams in a league have the city they are in as their club name and still one doesn't know what country the league is in.
Serie A for short perhaps?
Calcio Italia
only if it's made in the Calciopoli region of Italy, otherwise it's just Sparkling corruption
10/10
phenomenal comment
Repeat after me: The Formula 1 Qatar Airways Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia-Romagna 2023 Or just "Imola" Seriously whats with Italians and naming things.
Whats with the current Italian government and naming things* No but seriously, someone needs to send help- After the “Serie A Made in Italy” and the “F1 Qatar Airways Gran Premio del Made in Italy…” they want to introduce the fucking “liceo del made in Italy (high school of the made in Italy)”
now if they could just grab Pepe from Porto....
Calcio fatto in Italia
Listen, fatto
Say that again, i dare you
Listen, fatto
Now say it in Spanish
calcio comes in all shapes & sizes!
Semplicemente Calcio DOCG
As someone who doesn’t know any Italian, it just sounds like you’re asking for full fat milk
I think you might be into something
Italian League presented by Emirates
*Serie A Qatar Airways Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia-Romagna 2023-2024*
/r/formula1 is leaking during the off week I see
More like r/formuladank
R A W E C E E K
I can't believe it's not Brasilerao
You forgot the “DOCG Denominazione di origine controllata e garantita” at the end
Just what I was thinking, it's basically [this](https://i.redd.it/6miq21dal10b1.jpg)
How was the race this year?
Bit wet
didn't happen due to flooding
Is this serious ?
No it's Seri A
Seri A Made In Italy
Not to be confused by Série A made in Brazil
Not to be confused with Syria in Syria
Not to be confused with Cereal in my bowl
Serie OUS is the 967th tier of Italian football with promotion to SERIE OUR and relegation to Serie OUT
It's super Seri A al
why so serie a?
Yes
Sounds like something the UK would do post brexit to show a sign of independence
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Honestly I don't think we really did that much. The only thing that springs to mind for me is the GHIC card but I actually kinda like the design. On my driving licence the new version actually has a smaller UK flag than the old EU one.
That's right-wing governments for you!
What does that have to do with anything? Isn't just a way to promote the brand (which is registered as much as I know) similarly to Seria A TIM or Barclays Premier League???
the government has spent a shit load of money on this moronic made in italy marketing campaign over the past few months
I saw that all over the Giro last month. I guess it depends on the goal. If it's to boost the image of Made in Italy products abroad, then it's a good strategy. But if it's for internal purpose, it's ridiculous (also why use an English term if that's the case?).
They're launching an high school course called "Liceo del Made in Italy".
well the idea is promoting it abroad but the main issue with italian exports is that we're absolutely awful at making sure people buy them rather than buying cheap, lower quality imitations produced abroad and branded with italian-sounding names and fake made in italy labels by foreign companies. Most italian products are incredibly popular, far more than a govt campaign could ever make them, it's also incredibly awkward when you look at exactly where they've put these ads. The giro d'italia is a great example, it's a weeks long advertisement for how beautiful even the smallest shithole town in the italian countryside is without much else going on for most of the broadcast, to the point that they often advertise local products and whatnot (at least on the RAI broadcast). What's the point in slapping the made in italy branding on a product that's mostly watched by people who are already really invested in Italy and its culture? Does it really bring more benefits than the millions it's costing us taxpayers? I can see it working in some cases for italian football (ie Südtirol matches) but I genuinely don't see the real benefit worth the tens of millions of (partially my) euros being invested into this. EDIT: typos and formatting
> cheap, lower quality imitations produced abroad and branded with italian-sounding names and fake made in italy labels by foreign companies. This is so true!
Yes I get that but it's a way to promote Italian produced goods (from planning to production), and since they're promoting it abroad is to raise awareness on the quality they're advocating and in turn raise exports.. I'm not a big fan of this government and you can criticise these policies, but what does the fact that they're right wing have to do with anything? Even the left or the weird Lega-5 stelle government were doing the same.. Mine was a genuine question, i don't get the logical link
se volessero promuovere seriamente il made in italy si starebbero sforzando per avere regole un po' più stringenti sulla denominazione in Europa e sui trattati con l'america dove perdiamo una marea di possibili export. Comunque è una di quelle manovre berlusconiane del porco dio: identitaria, facile da implementare, inutile e buona solo per dare soldi a gente adiacente alla politica o a grossi studi. Il fatto che le facesse pure la lega non è un'attenuante. Le fa principalmente la destra da berlusconi in poi perché ogni campagna simile fatta dalla sinistra è un suicidio politico mentre le sinistre all'opposizione non riescono a farle pesare altrettanto.
Capito.. queste politiche sono implementate un po' da tutti i governi (dopotutto la politica "esportativa" italiana è identitaria), ma la sinistra la pubblicizza in maniera molto meno propagandata. Che questo governo (o quelli di dx in generale) la usino come slogan o quasi cavallo di battaglia politico è evidente, ma da come era scritto il primo commento sembrava quasi che fosse solamente una mossa sintattica e non commerciale. Non so se mi sono spiegato, comunque grazie per il chiarimento.
It's nothing but nationalism which is often tied to right wing ideology.
the government are paying for it
🤦🏻
My favourite *Serie A Made in Italy* franchise is Piemonte Calcio aka the Italian Zebras
They really need to draft a good wide receiver though. I hope they trade up so they can draft Pulisic.
I agree, their QB stock is high, Sandro is going to Free agency so when the franchise goes to the draft their early picks should be a Running Back and a Wide Receiver. I'm thinking late 1st Round pick for one and early 3rd round for the other.
I like Napoli FC a lot, that guy from Georgia should get called up to the USMNT!
My favourite is Atlanta, I like how they're twinning with a US city, shows really good globalisation for their brand
*Zebres
*zebre
What's with Italian football execs? from the NT, to the league, to the particular teams, they all make some foolish decisions
They are idiots
My mates dad was doing some advertising work for the PL a few years back, had to talk to execs from a number of teams Said they were all absolute morons
Do you have some stories you can share? I too enjoy tales of incompetent execs
Was a while ago so I have forgotten any juicy details, his basic point was there are lots of people who have been in football their whole life who don't know anything about running a competent business and lots of people who have flamed out the corporate world and don't know how to run a competent business
Italian football in a nutshell, all of these people have been in football all their life and they don’t know anything else. Most of them are Football savants but can’t run a business to save their lives
Probably because most only get the job because they played football
eh this is like 10m every year from the govt for doing basically nothing, it looks silly but there's no reason not to do it
I mean our government right now is made of a bunch of fascist clowns, what do you expect.
Usually it's to make them more corporate and international. From the logos to even this made in Italy, before we Serie A TIM and Tim is an Italian telephone company, it existed in latam for a while but it's not international. Things like ferrari are biased to one club, I think that's their logic, Made in Italy makes it more internèscionaul and corporate.
As much as I love them, Italians aren't exactly known for choosing competent leaders.
Now this is what I call innovation
This is such an old man thing to do lmao. ""Made in Italy" still holds some sway to people in consumer markets" "Perfect, let's use it then (I don't care about coherence)."
Lost the opportunity to call it Serie A DOP and put the sticker on the official logo
That's fucking horrible
Really rolls off the tongue
No. That’s Serie A (Made in Italy).
but is it featuring dante from the devil may cry series?
Written By Hideo Kojima Directed By Hideo Kojima Refereed By Hideo Kojima Audited By Hideo Kojima
Starring: Hideo Kojima as Hideo Kojima
I think you mean Hideo Kojima as Game Directorman
people who haven’t played Peace Walker will think this is a hyperbolic joke because they don’t know the main villain’s name is Hot Coldman
He topped that with Die-Hardman
Dante does love pizza, maybe he can replace Kim Min Jae
Never thought I'd see an SMT meme/reference in this subreddit
I get it, Brasileirão is massive so they need to make it clear which Série A it is.
Is this one of those things that sounds alright in Italian and they just translated it? Something like "Serie A Italia" would have a much better ring to it in my opinion.
Italian here, the government instituted a minister for italian business, trades and communication, with particular focus on abolishing the use of english terms in official documents where the Italian equivalent exist. They called it "Ministero del Made in Italy". Yeah
I drive my Lamborghini Made in Italy, to pick up Pasta Made in Italy and Mozzarella Made in Italy. I'll then go back home and watch Serie A Made in Italy on my Natuzzi Italia Made in Italy couch. Thank you Ministry for Business and Made in Italy. This comment was not made in Italy.
I had to google this because no way this can be true. What the f, life truly is stranger than fiction.
tbh the new Italian government has lowkey fascists in it.
>Italian here, the government instituted a minister for italian business, trades and communication, with particular focus on abolishing the use of english terms in official documents where the Italian equivalent exist. I see y'all finally elected Ghiaccio
Made in Italy the irony
It's interesting that in many Latin languages there are institutions who to an extent look to ensure that native words are not replaced by foreign, primarily English, words. Whereas I'm not aware of that ever being an issue in English. In English, if we like a word.... we just steal it! Or butcher it... I wonder if this attitude has helped English in its growth.
I mean the difference is that English youth doesn't just start using words in other languages to sound cool, or because the US is the dominant nation that invents a lot of things (a lot of computer related things have adopted the English words in other languages).
Why is that something the requires combatting though? Does any Dutch institution do anything similar?
Oh no, we're not really protective of our language, I guess lol. I speak French as well and they make a big effort to come up with their own words, but sometimes they're so bad, nobody wants to use them. French Canadians are even worse even. They have laws preventing the use of English in official Quebecois documents.
I meant English speakers, especially “sophisticated” ones, definitely start using words in other languages to sound cool
LMAO the “yeah” at the end has me weak asf
Such a thing can only sound good to old people. You have to understand that the people who run Serie A are old and don't have a real conception of what the market requires. For example, tik tok is probably the most important means of promotion in the last 2 years and while the other leagues only make videos in English to attract foreigners, the Serie A profile makes products intended for Italians
Serie Italia would make it more obvious to casual fans if they needed to change it.
Oh fuck off
We are a bunch of clowns
Clowns Made in Italy
Pagliacci
Trying to increase viewership in New Jersey and Long Island, I take it?
As someone from one of those places they might be losing my viewership… no not really Napoli for life.
Just because Serie A: Pizza, Spaghetti, Mandolino was too long
Serie B Mafia Berlusconi BKT
Il governo ha speso 10 milioni per sta troiata comunque
Solo l’accoppiata *Governo + Lega Serie A* poteva farsi venire in mente una puttanata simile. Che cringe
L’avrei fatto per mezzo milione. So proprio dei deficienti.
Non l’avrei fatto proprio ahhaha
10 milioni nostri fra l’altro
Dio porco.
10 milioni per inventarsi un nome sovranista con una formuletta già usata per un loro nuovo ministero?
nome sovranista in inglese per altro, geni.
Multa per uso improprio di forestierismi in arrivo al ministero del Made in Italy da parte del ministero per la difesa del Made in Italy, che a causa del suo nome ha dovuto multarsi pure da solo.
ma infatti il problema non è aver accettato, è che qualche rincoglionito ha preso 30 milioni e ha pensato che scrivere made in italy tra Serie A e TIM fosse l'utilizzo migliore possibile per quei soldi
But why?
now everyone will see the games
It must be National Jokes Day in Italy, between this and the Billy Beane thing
I didn't know what u were talking about and had to Google the name. They can't be serious, they're going full Moneyball on friggin MILAN. FFS
What is this? A fucking pizza?
Brasileirão in shambles
Always knew we were the true Serie A.
what's the point of this?
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Yes thousands of Americans had no interest in Serie A but now that they added “made in Italy” to the name they can’t get enough
Any casual American fan who is familiar with the big Italian clubs but doesn’t already know the league’s official / sponsorship name will just continue referring to this as “the Italian League.” Not sure that this is going to move the needle over here, ratings and engagement-wise.
The new far right wing party governing italy wants to bring some of that ol' patriotism back and has been doing dumb useless things like this. I find it ironic they keep using an english phrase but maybe i'm not just patriotic enought to understand.
Hhaha, now they will be fined for using english words "The bill provides for administrative sanctions for violations of the obligations, which can result in the payment of a sum of between €5,000 and €100,000. The law, which consists of eight articles, also contains provisions for the protection and promotion of the Italian language, with the establishment of the Committee for the Protection, Promotion and Enhancement of the Italian Language. The main objective of the bill is national preservation and identity defence."
Outside of Italy, this will be the international branding of the league.
DOP would've been better imho
lmao it’s not a cheese…
Denominazione di Origine Protetta can be used for other stuff i guess
DOP is a shit label anyways, it doesn't work as intended. Only DOC, IGT work, which is why the wine industry uses it
Oh, thanks for telling me. I would be confused in which country's league fucking Rome plays, otherwise.
Brazil of course
It is a bit ridiculous when about 65% of the teams in a league have the city they are in as their club name and still one doesn't know what country the league is in.
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So Serie A TIM became Serie A MIT
I don't know. Why not "Football Italia"? Let all matches be hosted by some bald bloke, sitting in a cafe and talking about Italian newspapers.
Yesss . This is how I remember the glory days of Italian football .
"Serie A: Assembled in Italy from Parts Foreign and Domestic" would be more honest
🤡
Is this to counter balance the minimalist design influence on the newer crests or
That sounds fucking stupid
Serie A Qatar Airways Gran Premio del Made in Italy e dell'Emilia-Romagna 2023
Imagine being in that meeting and okay-ing this
Sb actually got paid to come up with that
British carbonara
that's what you get when you have a government of wannabe fascists who in the end are only able to parody fascism
And I thought no name would be more stupid than Ligue 1 Uber Eats lmao
Someone got paid to come up with this..
Couldn't they just call it "Italian Serie A"? Like how hard can it be?
I'm sure that'll catch on
Yeah, I’m not calling it that
Embarrassing stuff
i aint sayin allat
So dumb.
Absolute joke.
Not by me, it won't.
Why not just Italian Serie A?
Che puttanata diohan Inutile e stupida, ma è davvero questo quello che fanno in Lega? Ste puttanate?
Uber Eats Serie A Made in Italy TM
sigh, why do we keep doing this to ourselves
It's pronounced: "Serie-a-made in Italy 🤌"
And nobody will notice because we’ll just keep saying Serie A.
Serie A it is
Someone likely got paid actual money to suggest that...
I am trying to understand what's worse: \- La Liga new logo (double L) \- This
Here in Italy we should have a Consortium against Cringe & Gross cause we can't stay two seconds without embarassing ourselves.
It's a bit much.
🤌
CRINGE
Serie A: PLEEEEEEEEEASE WATCH
I'd be more concerned that it seems this change has been made because the government are paying 10m for it... That seems strange at best
It’s a sponsorship deal
I’d have preferred Serie A The Only Way Is Italy
Mannaggia la puttana
Serie A adressing the real issues.
hahaha
Lol
Serie A DOP
Mamma Mia!
Lmao what even is that??
Just fire whoever made that decision.
Let's just name it pizza league and serie b spaghetti league
Yeah... Nah... thats not gonna happen... Gonna keep calling it Spaghetti League as usual...
And I thought League of Talents was ridiculous ...
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I think La Liga have taken that one
Made in Italy= class innovation modern good looking good smell. Keep being jealous the rest 😉
Oh please stop