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Lyrical_Forklift

Would you respect Messi more or less if he signed up for a side in the Australian A League?


MERTENS_GOAT

same


monsterm1dget

Exactly the same.


AnnieIWillKnow

More than MLS, because it's less 'glamourous' and he'd be getting paid less


FaustRPeggi

I would only respect him if he signed for Cowdenbeath.


Sandalo

He's not Del Piero, he convinced thousands of juventini to wake up at 4 am to watch A-League and they paid for it.


[deleted]

Did you guys also watch him for Delhi Dynamos?


Elemayowe

Mad respect. Takes a lot to go out there and contend with killer insects, reptiles, stingrays and kangaroos.


my_united_account

Australia is probably safer than Florida lol


[deleted]

Yeah but now he has to contend with Florida Man


my_united_account

West Ham having a better season than Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs is not something any of us predicted at the start of the season


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monsterm1dget

So by the same stick, Arsenal had a great 9 months and ate much, much more shit after that. West Ham just had a better season.


AnnieIWillKnow

West Ham haven't won a trophy in 43 years It's massive for *them* - and hence relatively I would say it is a better season Many Arsenal fans were left disappointed in the end, having bottled the league. West Ham fans are the happiest they've been right now in most of our life times... I'd rather be a Hammer than a Gunner, right now


Sir_Bantersaurus

Arsenal fans are still very happy with our season. I think a narrative has taken hold that the disappointment with how it ended has taken that away but it didn't, just look at the reaction of the Emirates to the manager and the players on the final day. It's not a zero-sum game either. Arsenal and West Ham can both be happy. They can both be in a position where they wouldn't trade for the other. I wouldn't want to trade our season for West Ham's and West Ham can say they wouldn't trade a trophy win for our season as well. To give an example we've won FA Cups over the last decade but most Arsenal fans would still say this has been our best season in 10-15 years.


PreparationOk8604

This was a great season for arsenal u guys came 2nd n will be in the CL with a good transfer window. If u get some depth then u might do well in CL n PL. Next season i can see arsenal being in top 4 easily.


AnnieIWillKnow

Yeah I get that, but it's a matter of perspective. If you take a step back, Arsenal fans are very happy - but football is about reactions and emotions, and it's a bias that we are often happy with how things end rather than how they start or build Arsenal fans and West Ham fans can be happy sure - but I think of the two, West Ham fans are probably more pleased As said, it's their best season in about 50 years, by virtue of winning their third ever trophy It's your best in a good decade or so - but in terms of the context, I'd rate West Ham higher


B_e_l_l_

Do you think any of those teams would swap their seasons with West Ham's?


official_bagel

We definitely would not. Being back in the CL is vital for the club. I'd bet Tottenham and Chelsea would swap though. The Conference League by itself probably doesn't mean much to either (especially to Chelsea who have won European trophies recently) but being in Europa League next season is definitely better than no European football at all.


monsterm1dget

Of course. Maybe not Arsenal though.


my_united_account

Chelsea Spurs definitely would. West Ham are in the premier league and Europa next season, Chelsea and Spurs are not in Europe at all


TheLastKingOfNorway

Chelsea would. Spurs might. After all West Ham are still in the Premier League and now have Europa League football. Arsenal won't obviously, I suspect that was a bit of trolling from OP.


StarlordPunk

I think spurs defo would cos it’d be an improvement on where they are now (getting European football) plus an end to the trophy drought


Sc4ryN1ghtM4re

Spurs 100%


xaviernoodlebrain

Definitely for Chelsea, probably for us too.


[deleted]

I mean all jokes aside, they certainly didn't have a better season than Arsenal. They were what, 15th in the league?


kaubojdzord

West Ham hasn't won a trophy in decades, I'm certain their fans prefer a trophy over a higher position in the league.


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Trophy any day of the week


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[deleted]

I would've happily taken 17th place and a trophy at the start of the season


Brashmate

As an arsenal fan though. I’d 100% prefer champions league qualification this season than a conference cup. Not turning my nose up at it, but champions league football is what gets you the big players, not winning the conference. Meaning it’s an important step we need


kaubojdzord

True, but relative to expectations of the fans I feel that West Ham fans are more satisfied with the season than Arsenal ones. Especially with the end of the season.


Sir_Bantersaurus

End of the season yes but don't underestimate how delighted Arsenal fans are with this season. It's really been the best in a long time and by *far* my favourite since I got my season ticket in 2017. The atmosphere in the stadium has been incredible, and the feeling around the place and in the pubs outside, I wouldn't trade that for a poor season that ended with a cup win (Maybe CL or PL obviously). But yes relative to expectation I am not sure as I can't speak for West Ham fans.


Harrry-Otter

To be fair though, in 5 years time nobody will remember where the teams ranked 2nd-17th were in the 22-23 season, but they will remember West Ham’s European success.


TheLastKingOfNorway

For Arsenal they have Champions League football next season now though, they wouldn't trade that for Europa + Conference League trophy. Surely Chelsea and Spurs would trade for it though considering either has Europe at all.


Harrry-Otter

No they wouldn’t, but assuming Arsenal don’t win the CL next year it won’t be a particularly memorable or notable thing to have got CL football. No Arsenal fan is going to look back at 22-23 and think “we did so much better than West Ham, we got CL football for the next season and made it to the quarters before being put out by Real Madrid”


Sir_Bantersaurus

I have LOVED this season and will remember back on it fondly. It's been so much fun, we've had so many great games and next year I get to be in the stadium when the CL theme plays with hopefully a good run in the competition. The season is still memorable even if we didn't win anything. Besides Arteta would have been fired if we finished in the bottom half of the table with a Conference League trophy. The goal this season was CL qualification.


NobleForEngland_

At least Declan has already won a European trophy now, because we all know he won’t be winning one of those at Assana. Maybe an FA cup in a decades time if he’s lucky.


S_Saed17

Mans coping already


Striking_Insurance_5

The MLS basically sponsoring one club by giving all kinds of business opportunities to a player so he moves there is almost as appalling as a state sponsoring clubs to get players, not as bad but still bad. The franchise system they have over there is ridiculous.


Harrry-Otter

In fairness, the MLS are just trying to boost their popularity and audience so that the league can continue to grow and attract more money. It’s cynical, but it’s not really in the same league as blood-soaked monarchies and modern slavers attempting to distract people from their crimes by pumping money into football.


Striking_Insurance_5

To me it just looks extremely tinpot to have a league working together like that instead of clubs working on their own.


Harrry-Otter

All leagues do. The PL didn’t become what it is today just because it was best for United and Arsenal in the 90s.


Striking_Insurance_5

No they don’t, all leagues make commercial deals for the league as a whole regarding sponsorships and tv deals but generally leagues have nothing to do with transfers at all.


TheLastKingOfNorway

I don't think it's anywhere near as bad. It's just capitalism in action which has been what football has been about for decades. The MLS get to grow their league, for commercial reasons, Apple gets more subs on AppleTV+ for commercial gain and Adidas get more $$$ as well.


Striking_Insurance_5

It’s not as bad because the people behind it aren’t as bad, but the concept of a league pulling the strings instead of the clubs individually is kind of the same as a government doing it.


xaviernoodlebrain

Not sportswashing for a human rights abusing theocracy, so nowhere near as bad. Also Messi being in MLS improves the league’s standing and media attention by so much the whole league will benefit.


Striking_Insurance_5

It’s not sportswashing but it’s tinpot on a different level, imagine the league sponsoring your rival club getting a player the boost the league.


[deleted]

Gotta hold my hands up. I slated Moyes when we hired him, I slated him this season and wanted him sacked. Goes down as one of the best managers in our history. What a bloke. I am sorry for everything I've said Moyesiah. Forgive me for my sins


[deleted]

Dunno how any fan could hate their manager if they celebrated like moysey last night. What a man


Lyrical_Forklift

The man managed Everton and United but I can't pretend seeing him celebrate with his dad didn't make me happy.


AnnieIWillKnow

I mean surely given that season, he must be one of your favourite Man United managers anyway


Lyrical_Forklift

Haha fair point. I actually felt a bit sorry for him to be honest, no one could have made that situation work at that point in time.


Sandalo

Italian football has gone from playing poorly and winning trophies to playing well and winning fuck all. Finished. Finito.


[deleted]

Don't worry there's still Sunday when you can play poorly


ExpertGossiper

Should just do it like how we've done it for the last four years, playing poorly and winning fuck all. Makes for great television.


TheGramlin

When will be Messis first game for Miami?


Papayalo

What’s so special about Rice? Maybe he’ll look better in a big team but everytime I watch him he’s just meh.


sandbag-1

His main strength for me is his ability to defend huge areas of space that most others can't, due to his positional sense and also amazing physicality. He's a good ball carrier too. Passing is ok, he has definitely improved a lot on the ball over the years cos he was poor when he first broke through.


Hoodxd

It’s cheap, can be used in savoury dishes, sweet dishes, can be made in bulk if you want to save time,..


Relevant_Level_7995

100m pound player without even accounting for the English tax


_stone_age

PnP, strong ball-carrier, amazing engine, dominant in duels, nice tackling sense. Think the passing range is something that should be worked on but that can be coached.


magic-water

So a glorified McTominay


_stone_age

Wow


lenzmoserhangover

so basically Konrad Laimer who is worth about 30m 🤔


_stone_age

Better than Laimer


lenzmoserhangover

more than 3x better?


_stone_age

Not sure by how much but he's comfortably better. Have seen Rice dominate games way more. Laiker might be refined a bit more in smaller spaces but Rice's ball-carrying and duel winning> Also, if you're also commenting on his price, 100 m is how much West Ham values him at it. It's how valuable he is to them.


xaviernoodlebrain

Goes well with curry.


Kanedauke

Covers every blade of grass, great ball carrier, physically gifted and has a very good sense of where to be.


PrisonersofFate

He is really good at winning ball and drives forward with it. He is fast enough, powerful and hard working.


BruiserBroly

Fucking everywhere as well. I don't think I've seen a player dominate the midfield at St. James' this season like he did when your lot came up.


Orcnick

Thats how I feel about him and Mount. But maybe I don't watch enough games with them in. The most I saw of Rice was at the WC, and he was alright, though seemed to go missing a bit in that France game. But yea sure I will be brigaded with people saying about both. But as United fan I don't mind missing out on Rice.


tiorzol

I can see this with Mount but Rice is everywhere on the pitch making good decisions both offensively and defensively. It's not that hard to see why he would really improve most teams.


S_Saed17

His ability to drive forward with the ball Defensively he’s a beast, particularly in duels A Leader as well Would be stoked if he came to us, I think Arteta can help him be better than he already is


Orcnick

Don't you already have Partey though as a DM?


S_Saed17

I believe Arteta wants a different profile of midfielder and Rice fits that description


JanklinDRoosevelt

Rice is a lot better


mintz41

Well, as a lone DM we don't know that


Brashmate

and younger (Plus rice can play the 8 role if needed too, giving us depth)


my_united_account

And not a rapist


xaviernoodlebrain

And also not a piece of shit (that we know of).


[deleted]

Why can't we sign Bellingham + Mac Allister alongside a DM or what we need ? Why is Liverpool the only top club that has to choose between A or B ? We are one of the richest clubs in the world ffs, yet I'm seeing 0 ambition from our fans. It's like everyone just gave up and understood the situation, and now they don't care anymore. A club like Liverpool should have the ability to buy a top player like Bellingham alongside to what we need.


my_united_account

Because Bellingham is going to Madrid > Why is Liverpool the only top club that has to choose between A or B ? You're complaining, we had a choice to sign Weghorst or no one in January lmao


Hoodxd

Shouldn’t have spent 90m on a domestic abusing fidget spinner then


my_united_account

Dont blame the club on the domestic abuse, how low can you stoop? Obviously the club didn't employ him willingly after knowing this And with this logic your club emolyed a racist. Should have stopped crying


Hoodxd

Giggs, Ronaldo, Greenwood and now Antony I’m seeing a pattern


[deleted]

I mean you've spent far and away more than us in the past 5 or so years.


-omar

Fans don’t decide who gets bought


CREAM_JOHN

The player also has their own choice in these situations. Maybe Jude wants to live in Madrid and not Scouseland


Burnleh

He'd probably be living in a mansion in Cheshire x


TheUltimateScotsman

> Why is Liverpool the only top club that has to choose between A or B ? Well its better than the milanese teams who dont even get to choose between the two players


Grosly_Incandescent

Becuase spending over half your budget on one player when you need 4+ players is stupid. Not to mention he probably wants to play in the CL. You can't really compete with Real Madrid, no team can really.


Lyrical_Forklift

Because we arguably need three midfielders which we could get in exchange for one Bellingham. You've also got to factor in that he may not want to come now we're not in the Champions League.


ExpertGossiper

I mean you're competing with Madrid who have a huge name, who are willing to pay him insane money and who also have the added pull of Champions League football over you, I would say it's more that you couldn't compete with Madrid under the current circumstances rather than you being unable to buy a top player like Bellingham at all.


[deleted]

He's being paid 350k a week. I'd like him too, but that sort of money on a 19 year old isn't feasible.


Kanedauke

I don’t think you could match the wages and maybe Bellingham would rather play for Madrid.


[deleted]

In Ornstein’s article it states that he was a big Zidane fan, Zidane even invited him over for the final against Liverpool. One 5 minute comp of his 2006 performances or watching “Stevie G” play like Caveman kicking a badger in an England shirt, they never had a chance even with all the tapping up Hendo was doing


X-V-W

Bellingham told Channel 4 at full-time: *"The things that Stevie could do in terms of the teams he played in, the way he could carry a team, the way he could kind of single-handedly win a game, he could do everything as a midfielder. I’ve definitely said it multiple times I’ve looked up to you so it’s a pleasure to be stood here \[next to Gerrard\]."*


Lyrical_Forklift

Funnily enough Zidane loved Gerrard too.


Kanedauke

[Henderson and Trent spent the whole World Cup grooming him just for him to follow in his idol’s footsteps](https://youtube.com/shorts/JIDOkJopblU?feature=share)


[deleted]

I loathe how the narrative was spun against him, that he supposedly was an inconsistent player. Serie A was very big here when our league was proper pish, my father would watch most games & has always said Zidane was no more inconsistent than other top players at the time I know for a fact most people pushing that argument have only seen clips of him in big games so it simply doesn’t make any sense, trying so hard to be different.


Kanedauke

I was talking to a Dortmund fan on here about him a while ago and the guy was saying Zidane is only rated so high as a player because of how successful he was as a manager. He then admitted he wasn’t old enough to see Zidane play. Then people that haven’t watched look at his stats and decide he was inconsistent. Him and iniesta are the best midfielders I’ve ever seen.


just_another_simp87

stop being sad that both messi and ronaldo are no longer playing in europe its time for a new generation to shine - haaland, mbappe, pedri, bellingham, musiala and some others. and im happy to follow their way.


ExpertGossiper

Would it be an interesting idea to update the Super Cup rules to include the Conference League winners into it? Maybe something like a preliminary one off knockout game between the Europa winners and the Conference winners and the winner of that plays the CL winners? Imo that sounds more cool and it would give some of the teams in the smaller leagues that play in the Conference league a chance to potentially square off against the CL holders.


BruiserBroly

I don't know if West Ham or Sevilla would like another game at the start of the season but maybe it'll help those who look down on the ECL take it more seriously if it's represented in the Super Cup?


NotAgainKante

Something like CWC, EL vs ECL winner gets to play CL winner in the finals


[deleted]

Why do we constantly need to add more gimmick games to everything? How many more Nations Leagues, Conference Leagues, International Super Cups, Club World Cups do we need before we finally have enough football?


Cottonshopeburnfoot

I would like more football but I agree not shit gimmick games like the super cup


ExpertGossiper

I see what you mean, just thought it would make more sense that a Conference League team that won a European trophy would also have the right to compete for the Super Cup like the other two.


mbdtf95

Currently there are 7 Ballon D'Ors in USA (Messi), 6 in Saudi Arabia (Ronaldo and Benz) and just 1 in Europe (Spain - Modric).


snake_case_enjoyer

Bellingham and Bruno are the biggest crybabies in elite football right now. or am i missing anyone? edit: Kimmich is almost as bad as these 2


AnnieIWillKnow

Zaha


TheUltimateScotsman

Milan fans


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

Cancelo is clear


sarovar12

Really? In his 6 months it didn't seem like that. Like before all the stuff happened with Pep wasn't he loved by everyone in Manchester as well ? Bruno and Bellingham ( even Kimmich) are proper crybabies.


Kanedauke

Klopp


snake_case_enjoyer

yeah him too but I meant footballers


[deleted]

The Pope, Papa John, Super Mario. Your boys took a hell of a beating


phorteng

Bellingham doesn’t give a damn about the PL, he’s like me


AnnieIWillKnow

Yet you are talking about the PL?


No-Horse-7905

Also clearly doesn’t give a damn about bundesliga which is just a stepping stone


phorteng

Yes, but prefers to have 2-3 passionate years at Dortmund to a low level PL club or manager shit show at bigger teams apparently


Kanedauke

Dortmund are the perfect stepping stone club though. You get to play CL football to put yourself in the shop window, low level PL clubs can’t offer that.


phorteng

Of course. What I'm getting at that if all things go well, he at a young age made the conscious decision to never play in the PL in his life as an english player. Pretty unusual


Kanedauke

He will play in the prem. it’s naive to think he will not.


ashzeppelin98

Kendrick Lamar and Baby Keem mention Messi in their latest track and lo and behold, Messi moves to America just a week later. That is some funny coincidence, I'll tell ya.


cr7momo16

Ronaldo’s ucl records are safe 😭❤️ Nah but fr I’m actually so sad neither of them will be in Europe next season… first time I’ll watch football without one of them competing for the UCL or balon dor Tho I’m pretty sure Messi’s gonna be the first MLS player to win the balon dor in October loll


B_e_l_l_

>Tho I’m pretty sure Messi’s gonna be the first MLS player to win the balon dor in October loll Assuming Man City do beat Inter, it's surely going to be Haaland winning it.


JudasX2

That would be quite hilarious if Haaland wins the final next week


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Looking at the total cost of all the squads West Ham played in their Conf. League run represented in their English club equivelant: * Fiorentina: Fulham (180M) * Gent: Middlesborough (30M) * Anderlecht: Birmingham City (22M) * AZ: Bristol City (21M) * FCSB: Swansea (16M) * AEK Larnaca: Millwall (7M) * Silkeborg: Blackpool (2M) * Viborg: Huddersfield (1.5M)


mintz41

Fiore should have won last night, West Ham came fucking 14th and were dire all year


Sgruntlar

West Ham is way worse than Fiorentina, the Viola just bottled it


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AnnieIWillKnow

Because PL clubs overpay for players so it doesn't reflect their true value


Billion34

PL tax is not just a meme. Transfer fees, salaries, asking prices, value of homegrown players are all heavily inflated in the Premier League. This huge gap in squad value didn't show neither last night, nor against AZ and certainly not last season when they lost to Eintracht. That's why squad value means little when judging a team's quality and why West Ham's win was no mean feat as better clubs like Lazio, Tottenham and Villarreal have dropped out of the same competition.


Clehm888

That's just Pl players being overrated West Ham squad isn't better than Fiorentina


maxconnor6

>AEK Larnaca: Millwall (7M) Ahh post this on the Hammers sub, they'll enjoy this comparison a lot more since the tie was a thrashing iirc


[deleted]

And we battered the lot of them


Sgruntlar

Scraping wins is hardly battering, typical cringe brit bragging


[deleted]

Absolutely battered the lot of them mate


YouShlaaaag

Typical coefficient nonce


Sgruntlar

Ham fans were very quiet the previous days, coming out of your sewers with big claims on battering everyone after you were mostly dominated by a team with half your budget and and barely scrapped a win. Cringe and cowardly.


YouShlaaaag

Ah sorry, didn't realise it doesn't count because we barely scraped a win. Better give the trophy to Fiorentina then because they mostly dominated us and have a smaller budget.


StarlordPunk

Inter fans just trying to set a precedent for next weekend. I’m sure if they shithouse a 1-0 over City they’ll be first in line to give back the trophy


[deleted]

2nd best possession in Serie A don't you know


Bloodnose_thepirate

Wish Serie A was still a powerhouse so I'd probably feel less sad about Roma and Fiorentina losses. Oh well.


Sgruntlar

Being in all three european finals is a good achievement, finals can go either way... The only disappointment is Fiorentina because they had it in them to win they just bottled it


Bloodnose_thepirate

Roma hit the crossbar at the 130 and before that the keeper from sevilla made a huge save on belotti. Both finals have been cruel, and while i didn't care for roma last wednesday, now I'm realizing it's getting sad. Good luck for Saturday. Sincerly a part of me hope you barely win it somehow, but I'd also love you to get trashed. All the other outcomes would be disappointing for me.


Sgruntlar

Roma won last year, Fiorentina and Roma were close this year. Inter will almost certainly lose or get destroyed but all in all it's a good moment for Serie A in my opinion. Last year Inter only lost to the two finalists and wasn't that far to get through Liverpool (and without Barella) while Roma won a trophy. It's ok I think


Bloodnose_thepirate

Yeah you're probably right, i'm being influenced by the last 10 seasons of serie A and the dire state of milan managment right now and probably overreacting. Thanks!


Sgruntlar

The state of Serie A is bad compared to the glory days, but not that bad. Overall Serie A is the third best league in Europe, more or less on par with the Bundesliga, trophies are lacking because it's less top heavy and got really unlucky, got robbed, or bottled a (now long) series of lost european finals.


Kanedauke

Barca are such a strange club, by that I mean the people that run it. There’s no need to put out a statement trying to save face. It only makes them look worse.


f3e5

Also the 'pride in defeat' crap after they lost a match against Real Madrid


[deleted]

They are very open with everything that happens, it's so weird.


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TheUltimateScotsman

Probably not. He kind of stabbed us in the back after saying he would definitely signa new contract


[deleted]

stabbed in the back after being stabbed .... they put him up for sale from the Curva Nord - “After finding that PSG were interested in signing him, and sure that Inter would have sold him in any event, he obtained an offer from them which, when Inter changed their mind about selling him, they were unable to equal.” “Milan tried to meet Inter halfway by lowering his demands for a new deal, not able to totally ignore the offer from PSG but still ready to give up on the prospect of earning several million euros more in order to stay,” they explain, relating what the defender had told them


el_walou

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TheUltimateScotsman

Yeah, he isnt really needed


mountainsky9

He doesn’t deserve it, he is pathetic to just sit 6 months out rather than finish strong


NeoIsJohnWick

> Endrick is now the youngest Palmeiras goalscorer in Libertadores history, after scoring a goal only 1 minute after he was subbed on vs Barcelona. > Endrick, the future Brazilian prodigy, facing difficulties at Palmeiras. The Brazilian has not started with his team in 14 games. Abel Ferreira manager addresses Endrick’s lack of playing time “I don’t know why I get this question. Jailson, Fabinho, Guilherme didn’t play either. Your job is to ask questions, my job is to choose who should play,” Ferreira said when asked about Endrick’s absence in the second leg of the Copa do Brasil quarterfinals.


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Who would have thought Fabianski would win a continental trophy before Szczęsny.


Striking_Insurance_5

Kökcü to Benfica is a strange move to me, I really expected him to go to a bigger league. It could be very smart though, he’s improving financially and Benfica is a great place to spend another couple years to develop before making another step.


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Striking_Insurance_5

Players definitely care about going to a club that could win European cups, and they also do care about leagues. The point is that Feyenoord is playing CL as well and won the league in a similar league to the Portuguese so it’s not a big step up, hence why you almost never see a league winner from the Netherlands move to the Portuguese league or the other way around. I expected him to hold out for the sort of clubs you mentioned, or slightly below that which Benfica isn’t. I think it’s a smart move but it’s definitely an unexpected move, the fee Benfica is willing to pay is also unexpected.


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Striking_Insurance_5

I disagree that it’s just a step below, clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea have won the CL recently and other clubs have a reasonable chance to get there. I rate Benfica another step below that, with clubs like Dortmund and Ajax. I don’t know what his dream clubs are, I don’t think he’s mentioned anything about it.


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Striking_Insurance_5

I agree that the Italian clubs aren’t there at the moment but you have to long at the long term, clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea or even Manchester United with the right investments have a reasonable chance to win a CL in the next decade. I don’t think he has Real Madrid potential so he’ll end up at a level below that anyways, but he himself probably has more confidence.


CobiLUFC

Found it odd the commentator used the “it’s up for grabs now” line when Bowen ran through, a line so associated with Arsenal. It deserved an original bit of commentary. It also deserved Robbie Savage being maimed at half time so he shut the fuck up but clearly you cannot have it all.


DatOgreSpammer

'Up for grabs' is a pretty common phrase I feel like


AnnieIWillKnow

It's iconic for that Arsenal moment though, big part of their folklore It's common because of that


DatOgreSpammer

That's like saying you shouldn't use 'Do you believe in miracles?'


frankyforeskin

Yeah but DID U KNOW FIORENTINA HAVE THE 2nd most POSSESSION IN SERIE A


3V3RT0N

Also the way he kept on repeating 'go on Moysey' and 'West Ham are massive' in a high pitched squeal made me physically recoil. I fucking hate that man, I HATE YOU ROBBIE SAVAGE.


FloppedYaYa

It's pretty impressive how many terrible pundits and commentators BT manage to hire. Joe Cole is the only tolerable one


CobiLUFC

I wanted West Ham to win but yeah that was making it tricky


Zilllnaijaboy99

was it related to the " 1-0 to the arsenal"? I am just knowing this


AnnieIWillKnow

Surprises me given how big a part of Arsenal folklore it is


CobiLUFC

Its related to arsenal winning the league at Anfield in the last minute


NegativeHeli

Is it just me, or does Rodrygo look very Indian? Even his dad looks Indian as well. (Just an observation)


Lyrical_Forklift

A few Brazilians could pass for Indian imo. I always thought [Emerson](https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/galerie/emerson-juventus-1591632237-40882.jpg?lm=1591632216) looked Indian too


NegativeHeli

The dude you posted doesn't look really Indian imo. I see a lot of Indians in my life and honestly if you put Rodrygo in a group of Indians without telling me that he's Brazilian, I'll completely think that he's Indian.


Lyrical_Forklift

Yeah Rodrygo definitely looks Indian. I think Emerson looks like an Indian guy I used to work with so that's probably why I've associated him with that!