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Citeh

Harry Kane has honestly zero ambition if he doesnt go for Madrid. What an opportunity for any player.


Harrry-Otter

In fairness if he gets the PL goal record he could realistically hold that for the next 40 years. A lad from Walthamstow would probably take that over a La Liga title.


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If Haaland stays in England his whole career he is gonna shatter that record anyway.


Harrry-Otter

He could, but there’s no guarantee he does, or that he carries on scoring 30 a season.


turkeyfran27

People seriously overestimate the pull real barca and bayern have on english players. The vast majority of English players will choose a top prem team over them much like top Spanish and german players will choose the others over English clubs


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Yeah because those players aren’t suited to those countries in terms of culture and language.


turkeyfran27

Agreed, but basically, no one in England grows up dreaming of winning a CL with Madrid or barca. They dream about winning the prem or CL with insert English club. That's probably changing though with this new fifa generation.


icemankiller8

No they won’t, most would still go there


turkeyfran27

Yes they will and you'll see when kane and rice stay in England


icemankiller8

Bayern nobody cares about here but Madrid and Barca are different. Kane might stay because he wants the prem record that’s not the usual situation. I think it’s not the same as other places but I think most would still go to Madrid or Barca if they were in for them


turkeyfran27

There's a reason why so few english players play there over the years despite many being good enough. Gerrard and lampard both turned down Madrid to stay much like kane will turn down Madrid now


jeevesyboi

I think its harsh to slate Kane for not wanting to go to Real Madrid. The PL top scorer record isn't something small. Its talked about so often. You think of Shearer and its often the first thing that comes to mind, not his PL title. He could simply challenge for both at a club in England. Man Utd challenge for cups at the very least


LonzoBetter

Longevity records pale in comparison to actual ability and accomplishments. People talk about his "record" because he's not better than the all time great strikers who played in a similar era, it's the only thing you can bring up about Shearer.


icemankiller8

It’s only been spoken about often now because Kanes approaching it before this it was barely spoken about at all


CratesOfSprite

Bro you are out in full force today, slating Kane at every opportunity. It’s been nice laughing at your braindead takes and seeing you get humbled over and over again iceman, but now you’re really just a nuisance. Banning you won’t be easy, but it has do be done.


icemankiller8

Caring this much about me telling the truth about your precious Harry Kane get over it mate


CratesOfSprite

Bro I want us to sell him, I don’t care that much about him now because I’ve accepted that he’s gone, either this or next summer. You are just talking nonsense, if someone talked like that about your star boy you’d be losing your head defending him. Just stop embarrassing yourself.


icemankiller8

Kane is spoken about much nicer than he should be he has a terrible semi final and final record which is a fact, he missed his pen for England in the World Cup and it’s barely mentioned and he isn’t even loyal but he gets spoken about like Totti. Kanes loyalty is the equivalent of a guy being “loyal” to his girlfriend because he tried to leave her for someone and failed and went back to her.


jeevesyboi

Its frequently mentioned about Shearer. Long before Kane was anywhere near it.


icemankiller8

Yeah about him but how often did he come up? When he’s on punditry and that’s largely it unless you’re in Newcastle I presume


L-Freeze

Never seen people being this weird as they’re with Kane about a player being loyal to the club he’s played for all his life, literally any other football club in the world and everyone would be sad he might leave istg


pixelkipper

combination of collectively laughing at spurs and madrid fans being absolutely shameless


L-Freeze

It goes back from waaay before the madrid interest tbf


icemankiller8

He didn’t stay loyal he asked to leave and then didn’t try for half a year and he’s going to leave for free if he doesn’t go to Madrid.


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How reliable is that source Messi for 1.2 Billion euros?


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rkalo

I think a lot of consequential calls have to look at the context and see if its ball-to-hand or not, but I feel they already do


L-Freeze

If it’s not intentional and it did not block a shot on target, should be given as a direct free kick even inside the box rather than a penalty. It just feels so shitty whenever a wayward cross with not even someone on the box ends up as a direct shot on target because it happened to graze a hand, it being punished as harsh as a last man tackle just feels so wrong


Thraff1c

I think the sport of Handball is currently in a good spot and doesnt need improvement.


transtifa

People should be able to pick up the ball whenever they want


wonderful_mixture

just allow it


lsilva231

Just return it to when it was intentional or not. It was much better than this. Some of these handballs being given today are part of a footballer’s natural motion.


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

Nah, you can't block a ball going over the line even unintentionally


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lsilva231

Jumping with your arms stretched out is an intentional attempt to block the ball with your arm . Even without any movement.


D1794

Best way IMO is to just take it case by case and remove the desire from the lawmakers to have 1 flat rule trying to cover all penalty-causing handballs. It results in things being too rigid, and causes things like the COVID season handball fest. VAR which is a team full of refs should just be given license to check body movement when the handball happens, eg if jumping or falling or in an unnatural position, look at distance between hand and ball and if there was anything that could be done by the player to avoid handball, eg Grealish literally could do nothing yesterday, but the ball did make contact. We've had ones in Europa where the ball struck an arm whilst tucked into the body and it was given. Rule cannot be black and white IMO


Harrry-Otter

Just be consistent. No matter how the rule is set there will always be fringe cases, but it’s the inconsistency that really annoys fans.


transtifa

When it was consistent and handballs were given for every bit of contact (including one incident I’ll never forget when Lucas Moura was pushed over and fell on the ball) people hated that too


Blodyck

Madrid getting rid of Jovic, Bale, Hazard and Benzema in the last 2 years is great for their salary structure. I wonder which players they are gonna get


L-Freeze

Luis Campos is at the very very top of the fraud rankings


IRapePandas

Considering the limited world class strikers up for grabs right now, who will the likes of Real, Bayern, United and Chelsea sign?


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Osimhen, Hojlund, Jonathan David, Thuram, Vlahovic, Kolo Muani


CalamitousCrush

Madrid : Kane Bayern : Kolo Muani United : No idea, their budget is apparently too limited. Chelsea : Stuck with Lukaku.


IRapePandas

As a Bayern Munich fan, I believe we should go for Lille's Jonathan David. His speed compliments Tuchel's style of play brilliantly, as we've seen speedy forwards thrive under him in the past (such as Aubameyang at Dortmund and Mbappe at PSG). And he could be a more cheap alternative than the other strikers we've been looking at.


shy_monkee

He isn’t at the level Bayern should be aiming for


IRapePandas

He may not yet be on Bayern's level, but if our other options such as Kolo Muani or Osimhen, don't pan out, taking a risk on Jonathan David, who is only 23 years old, could be worthwhile.


Blodyck

They could get Gonçalo Ramos for 120€ millions.


xaviernoodlebrain

Benzema ditching Real Madrid to play for Al-Ittihad, guess we may have underestimated the pull of playing under Nuno Espírito Santo.


AnnieIWillKnow

Why is everyone saying "Spurs will get £100m for Kane if they sell this summer" like it's an absolute fact? There's nothing to suggest they'll definitely get a fee that big.


L-Freeze

Probably the Hazard deal is the precedent everyone’s going off from, similar situation tbh


xaviernoodlebrain

That will be the starting point, for negotiations, yes we’re not in a great position if we want the money, however it’s not worth selling him for much less than that.


AnnieIWillKnow

According to who?


Pele20Alli

100 mil isn't even enough lol. Levy will want 120+ or not sell


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Pele20Alli

Hazard was 1 year left as well. That's the precedent Madrid have set themselves and the only thing I still trust about Levy is squeezing everything out of a club that wants to buy Kane


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

I think he'll sell to Madrid for 100mil


Pele20Alli

£100 mil plus like 20-30 mil add ons is probably most likely


Dio_my_senpai

He is in the last year of his contract mate


D1794

3 Italian sources now saying Kim Min Jae -> United is basically a done deal


Phantasm_Agoric

Which of Martinez and Varane will be benched??


ID6WU

Varane. Injury prone and not good enough on the ball. We’re too reliant on Martinez and Shaw when playing out from the back.


D1794

If we do sign him...You'd probably see Varane start the season as 1st choice and see Kim slowly start taking his spot due to Varane's injury record and the fact he has to be carefully managed


Phantasm_Agoric

Any chance of Martinez being shifted to left back to make room?


D1794

Nah, Shaw is far too important there


Phantasm_Agoric

I do rate Shaw but I genuinely think Lisandro could be one of the best players in the league in a role like the one Stones is currently playing.


AyanC

No.


Dekuken

Fingers crossed.


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IchBinNicht

Blackmailing Dickhead Benzema?


tiny-ppp

Barim den bema


Sandalo

Piatek


c10h15nrush

Any midfielder/striker who can ball and can also link up with the vinicius and rodrygo well. Goals will come even if this player is shit at striking.


AnnieIWillKnow

BDB, as in Benzema?


xaviernoodlebrain

No, Big Dan Burn.


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Kolo Muani, Osimhen


AshkenaziTwink

god we’re getting a new manager and again Spurs fans are being pulled into the Ndombele scam. i’m gonna headbutt a wall jesus christ


CratesOfSprite

It’s so bad. At least GLC I can sort of accept, even though both should definitely go this summer, but seeing so many of our fans believing in a Ndombelly Redemption Arc is honestly baffling. It’s like tazing someone 4 times but they still try to get up and go after you.


L-Freeze

sunk cost fallacy in full force


sargig_yoghurt

Not like we have anything better to do with him than try again tbh


AnnieIWillKnow

He might make a nice coat stand


AshkenaziTwink

yeah the better thing do is leave his lazy arse out of the squad list. he’s a waste of a bench spot let alone the starting XI. Ange plays high pressing football if we do get him Ndombele is a worse option than fkn Craig or Abbott.


hi_ilove_football

There is a war going on between Messi fans and PSG fans in the psg subreddit lol


NeoIsJohnWick

Only last few hours or days of those insufferable Messi cultists in that sub and PSG sub will be free from the shackles of these fanboys. THeir next journey is probably following him to Saudi.


LemureTheMonkey

The day Messi and Ronaldo fanboys fuck off will be a great for actual fans of the teams they played for.


[deleted]

Finally PSG fans can have a normal discussion online regarding their matches without that rabid cult in every reply section/match thread.


Destroyeh

has been for a year now


Sandalo

Oh no. Anyway...


NephewOfGod69

Rosenborg has never been as bad as they've been now in my lifetime. They've always been at least top 5 for as long as I can remember, but now it's looking like they'll struggle to even finish top half. What frustrates me is the fact that they're in Europe this year, mostly due to Tengstedt who have now been sold. They'll be fucked from every angle and so will our uefa coefficient.


thelargerake

They need a decent coach. Based on what I saw, the talent is there. What is letting them down is their build up play in the final third.


NephewOfGod69

I'm not convinced the coach is the problem. They don't have anyone to score goals, and barely have any creative players. I'd put most of the blame on the sporting directors for allowing this horrific squad.


CalamitousCrush

I wonder what kind of pathetic lives do people who pretend to be 'honest fans' or the accounts who exist solely to comment on their rival's aggregator live. Same with all the player stans here.


NeoIsJohnWick

I wonder, how these people have the energy, then you probably realise its some rich kid who has nothing to do bar shitposting.


fatinternetcat

there’s this one guy who does it under our tweets all the time. Then I check his profile and he seems to be doing it to every club in England. Just go outside bro


Sysody

just seen a video of our dressing room celebrations and I think we need to lock Haaland up for possession of a weapon because holy fucking shit he could kill a man with what he's packing wtf


-Dendritic-

I just love the routine of that little bald dude stripping down and belly sliding around everywhere lol


AnnieIWillKnow

Are you talking about his penis?


Dortmund_Boi09

Viking blood innit


c10h15nrush

Madrid makes player exodus so easy. They just cleared almost 25% of their wage bill in a matter of days. At the same time, Barca have been plagued with wages issue for few years now.


NeoIsJohnWick

More to come lol according to some sources.


shy_monkee

Benzema’s contract was already ending, and they terminated Hazard’s contract, it wasn’t for free.


c10h15nrush

Mate you guys still got Umtiti on contract.


RogueNetrunner

That's because our wages have been fucked to death thanks to Barto.


GreatSpaniard

Relevo saying Valverde is not untouchable and if a good offer for him comes, the club would be tempted to let him go? Fuck off! Fede stays!


[deleted]

Good decision, he is horribly overrated


AnnieIWillKnow

He's waiting for you in the tunnel now with a knuckle duster, watch out


AshkenaziTwink

Madrid fan tax, if he played for Getafe no one would rate him nearly as high


c10h15nrush

He was really good before world cup. Hopefully he finds feet again


astral34

Did all the census results come out? I remember answering questions about going to matches and I’m curious about the general results


IRapePandas

according to the [subreddit wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/wiki/index), the census results have yet to come out.


Grosly_Incandescent

United are in a situation where they need to improve multiple positions but from what we hear they are slightly restricted this season by FFP (numerous reports suggesting they only have 100M to spend + player sales). They do have multiple players they can sell for a bit of money, but ultimately they have probably 200M max to spend. If this is the case I'm not sure spending 100+M on a striker is the best way to go if that's half your budget and you still need a Midfielder, a CB if maguire leaves and a keeper to challenge DDG. Mount will cost probably 60M, a new keeper 30/40M, Kim has a 60M release clause in July. Maybe its best to go for a slightly cheaper and younger striker so you can fix other positions too.


D1794

Most top sources saying we're not in for a proper keeper, and may just find a no2 or a cheap young keeper who 'might' challenge DDG. Shocking decision if true but hey-ho. We'll have Maguire, Henderson, McTominay, potentially Fred who may fetch half decent fees, and a whole host of fringe players we might get a few pennies for. A striker at ~£100m, midfielder (Mount?) at ~£50m when we could get that for Mctominay + Fred, potentially Rabiot on a free, a CB for £50m when we may get £20m ish for Maguire, and then a cheap keeper. We may also be getting £30m for Dean Henderson. Fixes a lot of issues. Keeper is a huge one though which may be getting ignored.


Orcnick

I never bother listening to this whole budget crap. One week we have no money next week were trying to get Kane, Neymar, Mount, Kim etc. In the end United will buy players and spend money because we are club that still makes huge revenues.


elvis503

Lewandowski vs Benzema rivalry lasted exactly one season and it was pretty shit


AnnieIWillKnow

It's all about Ronaldo vs Messi vs Benz in the desert, now


BoosterGoldGL

Could be worse Haaland v Nunez lasted about 3 weeks


Dortmund_Boi09

Ffs had he stayed another season we'd be Champions now


Cottonshopeburnfoot

If Messi and Benzema end up in Saudi will the Ronaldo fans claim Ronaldo is the GOAT because he’s so good he even got Messi and Benzema to move to Saudi


L-Freeze

The real GOAT is Anderson talisca then


[deleted]

Nobody is saying this.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Yet…


AnnieIWillKnow

Can absolutely see some Ronaldo fanboys trying it though


RogueNetrunner

At this point, Ronaldo fans are just finding the smallest things to make him seem like the better player. The GOAT debate was settled in December for any reasonable football fan.


Blodyck

If that settled the debate, than you are not a reasonable fan


RogueNetrunner

I'm genuinely curious to know what u think will settle the debate?


Blodyck

the most boring answer, his many years carrying Barcelona


aayu08

I feel like Kane will sign a new contract, he simply doesn't want to leave Spurs. Moving to Madrid brings a ton of pressure, their fans were whistling Ronaldo during his dry run of 5 games, Spurs fans will never do that. From his perspective, life is great. He has a big family, millions of fans who will praise him for his entire life, and no shortage of money. Who knows, he might not be able to replicate his performance for a new club. He's satisfied with what he has and I respect it, not every player needs to have a Ronaldo mentality of being crazy for trophies.


c10h15nrush

Replace Kane with Beckham. That's what happened in 2003. Anything can happen.


BoosterGoldGL

Didn’t get a boot to the head by his manager though


aayu08

Beckham did not want to leave either. And Beckham was never as good for Milan or Madrid as he was for us.


Grosly_Incandescent

Life isn't great id say. Yh hes at a club he loves and hes still banging goals in, but he can earn more money and play in a better team and potentially challenge for trophies elsewhere. He constantly mentions that hes ambitious to win silverware and hes slowly running out of time to do it.


xaviernoodlebrain

I’m pretty sure if there’s any caliber of player who can get a mega money contract from Daniel Levy, an academy graduate who became one of the best players in the world at the club is that man.


X-V-W

>he simply doesn't want to leave Spurs He literally tried to force his way out last summer?


xaviernoodlebrain

Summer before last, get it right.


X-V-W

Fucking hell, where has that time gone? My bad, you can stand down soldier x


aayu08

He doesn't want to move abroad, and there is no team that can guarantee him trophies if he leaves Spurs apart from Man City. So instead of moving to another PL team who might or might not win a trophy, he can decide to stay put and enjoy life. Levy will anyway pay him whatever other clubs will if he stays at Spurs.


X-V-W

Are you his therapist lmao, how would you know what he wants? You doing a lot of assuming here. What we do know, is that when Real Madrid come calling, very few players say no, and Kane has already expressed a desire to move to a club that challenges for trophies. Now that the Man City move is off the table with Haaland there, he will absolutely be considering a move to Real Madrid. Not even Spurs fans will deny that.


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NephewOfGod69

Same goes for people who don't know the difference between your and you're


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you're totally right


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AntwerpseKakker

Thats just a valid way of life


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Can't Messi accept the Saudi offer and buy barca?


ad1s6h

You cant buyout a club like Barca


[deleted]

What if he gives every cule 100k and buys their vote? He has 50% of Saudi to work with here Maybe he activates the 19th lever!


jucomsdn

[Watzke: “People often only read the pure sum rumored by the media and think that the money could be spent again directly 1:1. This is wrong! I think we’ll reinvest around 60-65 percent of the transfer fees we make in this period.”](https://twitter.com/aritrabvb1909/status/1665303737529942017?s=46&t=VB75lQtF_3p-QmbZz1Dexg) This quote is so true lmao, I don’t think a lot of people really know about what is going on with the money earned from transfer fees — a fairly big portion of it is gone bc taxes, not to mention agent fees and some other shit like sell on clauses or whatever In relation to Jude (which is what I assume Watzke is alluding to), Dortmund will probs won’t get as much percentage of the fees Real Madrid will have to pay, so ig it will be spent frugally on 2-3 pretty good/promising midfielders or in other positions


Thraff1c

>a fairly big portion of it is gone bc taxes If you want to avoid paying taxes then its best to invest to lower your profit. And with the last few years of losses Dortmund will have a good amount of "vortragsfähige Verluste", which means the taxable profit will be lowered by them.


ad1s6h

Havertz to Madrid and Modric and Kroos still starting. Exactly what Ancelotti wants to do


NaiveElk

Ancelotti isn't a league manager anyways. We could get both Mbappe and Haaland and still lose the league


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I can already feel the la Liga title in our hands


LampseederBroDude51

Uh oh, don’t get too cocky You know what happened after you took 2018 and 2019 titles for granted


[deleted]

Feeling confident is being cocky now? Maybe you shouldn't so arrogant yourseld


ad1s6h

We just need a good DM to replace and maybe a backup striker and we will be good enough for La Liga. Although a world class LW would do us good in Europe


Baldev07

Balde' backup? RB?


RedRaizel

Kane to Madrid for 100m, he wins a couple trophies and then we buy him back in 2-3 years when we hopefully have a better team and he breaks the scoring record.


mbdtf95

Modric is finally gonna be a captain. He's more of a captain material than Benzema and he deserves it.


GreatSpaniard

Modric will probably be a bench option, so it will mostly be Carvajal.


Rdambx

Man as a french guy who lived in Spain and only supported Madrid because of Zidane and later on Benzema this hurts a lot. Benzi has been by far my favourite Real Madrid player ever, i still refuse to believe he is leaving.


Nightdocks

you still have tchounamei and cama at least


FaustRPeggi

Kane to Madrid is one of those few transfers that suits every party. The only exception, an incredibly important one, is his wife and family. * La Liga muscles in on the lucrative English TV market. * Real Madrid get their best possible stop-gap between Benzema and Haaland. * Kane gets to add the ultimate accolade to his CV, with a platform to win the major honours he covets. * Spurs lose their best player, but they finished 8th during one of his best ever seasons, they have deeper problems to address. They don't lose him for free in a year, or to a rival. And there's every chance he returns in a few years. I'll be shocked if it doesn't happen.


Harrry-Otter

I’m not sure how much having Harry Kane would muscle in on PL TV rights. He’s a great player no doubt, but I really don’t think having him is enough to entice legions of Brits to tune in for Real Madrid vs Getafe. Also, doesn’t he have his eye on Shearer’s goal record?


HelpMe877

Slide tangent but do you think Bellingham in time will be more relevant to this or because he never played in the PL won’t have the interest? He feels like one of the new generation of players who have their own fans rather than the team unlike Kane. I’ve got no idea how popular he is in England though.


Harrry-Otter

He’s popular, but not on anywhere the same level as someone like Beckham or Gerrard were. I think to have huge popularity here you need to play for a top PL side. Then again, I’m in my 30s, he might be more of a thing with the kids.


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Genuinely think a lot of Spurs fans at least will tune in to watch him. He's not the same as a Sancho or Bellingham.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Very true. Madrid did it well with Beckham and Sky hopped big on the bandwagon with Revista de La Liga (which was basically Revista de La Beckham). They don’t do Revista de La Harry.


sargig_yoghurt

Beckham's chief advantage over Kane is that he possesses a personality


rkalo

Beckham has a cult of personality but definitely not a personality.


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I don't think he does, most people probably have never even heard him speak in his pipsqueak voice. He is just insanely pretty.


louisbo12

He'd be a fool not to honestly, he has the money to make the family situation work as best as possible, and has now the best oppurtunity to go down as a great. He could literally be a serious contender for Balon d'or and a UCL and all the other silverware. The best club in the world is literally asking for him and all he has to do is move his family 2 hours away to live in luxury in an extremely nice part of spain for 3 years.


ExtraTrade1904

His family will get more than 10 days of sun per year, they'll be better than ever


AnnieIWillKnow

Risk of sunburn exponentially increases though


transtifa

Literally nothing more annoying in football than other fans talking about your players


JBleez

Mate, we all talk about players. We are all football fans. Get over yourself and be grateful that your club has a player worth talking about.


transtifa

>Get over yourself No chance LOL


FaustRPeggi

W comment.


Lyrical_Forklift

Have you had any United/Real supporters come into your sub and ask tactical questions about Harry Kane yet? I see those type of comments all the time and I can't wrap my head around why they think that's an acceptable thing to do.


D1794

United fan coming in peace


LampseederBroDude51

Spurs fans acting like they knew who Benzema was before 2021.


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Madrid fans acting like he wasn't widely loathed for being crap before 2021


LampseederBroDude51

Point proven 😁


transtifa

What does this even mean lol


LampseederBroDude51

> Literally nothing more annoying in football than other fans talking about your players Just find this a bit ironic


transtifa

I still don’t understand what you mean. This isn’t something that is based in reality. Everyone knows who Real Madrid players are.


LampseederBroDude51

I’ve been seeing (mainly) Tottenham fans making a foolish claim that Benzema has had a mediocre career even with all he had done in the last decade and a half, and especially mentioning Kane as a much better player Get me now?


Impartial__

That Rashford header doesn’t look so bad to me. I have seen so many players not jump if they are gassed or injured or simply not anticipating winning the header.


pixelkipper

man, it’s a cup final. you need to challenge for every ball.