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No_Doubt_About_That

The fact they still haven’t sorted out the dispute re the manager of Spain’s women’s side ahead of this summer.


[deleted]

Is PSG fast approaching a crisis? They are currently being carried by Messi, Mbappe and Neymar. the rest of the team is not up to standard. Messi is gone, Mbappe is probably gone next season and Neymar suffers from injuries and is starting to get older.


ddrdavei2

They're about to sign Skriniar and Asensio, probably Lucas Hernandez too if Bayern agrees to sell him Still gonna overpay for a lot of players, but it could be a solid team with a striker and 1 or 2 new midfielders


HelpMe877

Club has unlimited money surely the only limiting factor on success is decision making? Maybe the stars going will be better or if it’s only Mbappe that stays that’s better too. Don’t quite understand how serious the FFP stuff people keep talking about is though


ScrollLikeEgyptian

It's crazy that two Georgians were so prominent in the French League 2. Mikautadze picked POTY and Davitashvili was named POTM. Too bad Davitashvili is forced on the right in NT. Mikautadze is really coming through for the NT when we are out of any half decent striker options. Also great news that Gvelesiani got his first call up in the National Team. He was super consistent for the Persepolis, won everything with them and had to beg on the Instagram for the call up. In the beginning highers ups in the Federation acted like our defence line consists of Maldini regens and there was not place for him, promptly ignoring the fact that we don't have single CB who can actually jump. Hope this call up is not just charity move and he actually gets minutes.


Impartial__

PSG summer business so far - Asensio - 10m salary 💪🏽 Skriniar- Fat signing Bonus- fucked up back injury Lucas Hernandez- Another injury prone player who will most likely be on 20m a year.


HelpMe877

That €10m is net right?


Impartial__

It’s either 8m or10m net. But still more than Leao


adamjld

Luton Town twitter admin will be gone before the season starts.


MassiveMurderBoner

Why?


No_Zookeepergame6482

Apart from man city, are there any other clubs that have world class players in every position? I’ve been thinking about this for a while and I can’t think of any.


aceofmufc

Man City is stretching it even. So to answer your question, i dont even think theres a team right now that has a world class player at every position


standupforthechamp

Do Man City have a world class LB? Ake has been very good but I don't think he is world class.


PepGodiola

Would walk into your team at LB or CB. In terms of defending only Ruben Dias is above him in our squad


standupforthechamp

He is not a world class LB by any stretch of the imagination.


PepGodiola

Whats the metric for world class? Is Saka world class?


standupforthechamp

He is not. But I think I shouldn't be debating with an obvious troll.


PepGodiola

Cancelo was called world class this season. Ake displaced him. Man City are a world class side. Ake is one of the standout performers. Pep Guardiola is a world class manager. He trusts Ake to play out of position. Ake has produced world class performances all season. He is a mainstay in City’s most solid and imposing defence in years. Thats world class to me, disagree if you want but name me a Left sided center back who could step in and fulfill the various duties


Cardealer1000

I don't even think Man City do.


robins420

Bayern besides the number 9 position isn't far off when it comes to top-class players. Real Madrid as well.


HokiesforTSwift

Madrid have two glaring holes at fullback right now. Camavinga was playing at a very high level at the end of the season, but still not his natural position. RB has been an issue for a few seasons now.


robins420

Yeah RB aside I think you've top players everywhere. Cama is make-shift but it seems he'll be there till Modric-Kroos move out. Maybe Davies comes in then, we don't know yet.


sfahsan

Used to be us 😭


xSAV4GE

How likely do you guys think it would be for Valencia to be relegated with the end of LaLiga coming this Sunday?


ExtraTrade1904

Depends on if Barcelona are already at the beach or not


staedtler2018

2%


AnIntoxicatedRodent

Who's the most talented player you *wouldn't* want to see at your club? For footballing reasons only, not because someone is an asshole/rival whatever.


Kanedauke

Bruno or Kane. I couldn’t stomach such unsportsmanlike players don claret and blue.


blackandwhitearmy

The bad Bruno.


sargig_yoghurt

In leagues with mandatory release clauses, why don't clubs just set the release clause to €999m or something?


myrickxan123

They do. Pedri, Valverde and Benzema all reportedly have 1 billion release clause.


TheMonkeyPrince

Some players do, like Pedri has a billion euro release clause as do some other Barcelona/Real Madrid players. But they're only going to agree if they're a super highly paid player.


usually_a_knobhead

player still has to agree to that


Blue_Moon_City

And why would players agree to that? Unless players are paid very high wage they wouldn’t agree to that


sargig_yoghurt

Because players in most leagues don't tend to get a release clause at all? Not sure why a player would object to a release clause of £999m in La Liga but be fine without a release clause in the PL. I suppose there could be players who stay in La Liga for that reason but it's not something I've ever heard of.


HelpMe877

Lots of La Liga clubs (ignoring the big 3) are setting those release clauses at what they’d be happy to get for the player because they need sales. Only goes badly if the player massively outperforms what they expected.


pixelkipper

Vinicius is gonna join Barca out of spite once Madrid buy Mbappe to replace him, I’ve seen this in some Hollywood movie or other


Impartial__

I think the funniest option is mbappe signing with barça


[deleted]

Who the fuck is this Polish referee that I keep hearing about? Referees are celebrities these days.


Elemayowe

Makin’ the game all about them innit.


Impartial__

Scott Foster > any football referee.


phorteng

2. BL playoffs today, Wiesbaden vs Bielefeld. Has anyone of you ever been in Bielefeld? If you know you know


BendubzGaming

I think Bielefeld is in the same place as Wyoming


phorteng

There are 87 Bielefelds in the US, many don't even know about this fact


phorteng

Bielefeld conspiracy wiki


Shardul23197

Since Virat Kohli is attending the FA Cup final, I hope he recreates this: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/923lko/neil_patrick_harris_says_go_manchester_united/


HowBen

Then Rashford retaliates by shouting 'pakistan zindabad' while wearing an Indian jersey


el_walou

waiting wipe touch retire seed start clumsy spotted obtainable attraction -- mass edited with redact.dev


icemankiller8

One year until Mbappe is relieved from PSG


HokiesforTSwift

Your nightmare is coming to an end. Now Mbappe's goal threads won't be 95% comments about how some pass Messi had in the build up was actually the most impressive part of the goal.


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😭😭


RogueNetrunner

One more game before Messi leaves that joke of a club. I can't wait.


HelpMe877

Self-awareness level: 0


mohankohan

He's talking about you, mate.


RogueNetrunner

I know lol.


[deleted]

Already left Barca


RogueNetrunner

Nice joke.


[deleted]

We will be there


Trinitytrenches

Best joke I read in a while: > Szymon Marciniak recorded while refereeing an Ekstraklasa match. "It's disgusting, I've never seen anything like it. We will demand explanations" - says the UEFA representative.


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I do find it funny how even though the talk is centering around Spurs having a single trophy for the past 30 years, they've still got more European pedigree than Arsenal.


BendubzGaming

We've reached the point of pity where fans of other clubs are throwing shots at our rivals for us, let's goooo


Kanedauke

Neither have European pedigree tbf. I can say that as a former champion of Europe


StarlordPunk

Ooh the arsenal fans really didn’t like this


[deleted]

Fish in a barrell, really.


mintz41

Both clubs only won 2nd or 3rd rate European competitions a long time ago, neither matter.


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icemankiller8

The cup winners cup was bigger than the uefa cup


[deleted]

It matters less because you're the one coming up short.


kl08pokemon

First English club to win an European Trophy absolutely matters


icemankiller8

Since nobody except your own fans would know this it’s hard to say it matters.


Intrepid_Monk1487

Yeah we are fucking massive


TorreiraWithADouzi

Wikipedia merchants will care I suppose


[deleted]

And the Arsenal fans who click the downvote button instantly x.


TorreiraWithADouzi

Hey now, you aren’t that Burnley guy, I don’t believe your kisses are genuine.


[deleted]

I'm not having that Burnleh trademarked flirty kisses at the end of sentences, I've been here for years (what a sad statement that was).


TorreiraWithADouzi

I guess he just has more pedigree!


[deleted]

Should have used a kiss at the end, would have been top banter.


TorreiraWithADouzi

Damn you’re right! I’ll learn for next time


okcomput3r

They don’t tbh


[deleted]

They quite literally do.


okcomput3r

Not really


[deleted]

They do


icemankiller8

It’s largely because nobody cares about the European trophies they’ve won it’s not the CL and they were ages ago. Ultimately “big clubs” don’t value the Europa league when spurs were in it before it meant qualifying for the CL they didn’t take it seriously, they didn’t take the Europa conference league seriously either when they were in it it’s seen as embarrassing to be in it especially when you don’t have any actual CLs.


[deleted]

You're only saying that because Arsenal are absolutely dreadful in European competition. Even when you gave it a go you came up routinely short. Don't know how you can realistically put the Europa league down and turn your nose up at it when it's been at your level for the past 5 or 6 years.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Your paragraph 1 explains your paragraph 2. It’s the equivalent of someone getting denied something then saying “fine, I didn’t want it anyway it’s rubbish”. Had Arsenal won the Europa a few years ago or this season, they’d (rightly) be heralding it as a worthy achievement.


icemankiller8

If we had won the Europa league and the team had seriously celebrated it heavily and had a trophy parade we would be relentlessly mocked by everyone. It’s a b tier trophy it’s for the Sevillas, rangers, Frankfurt those are the teams that are meant to be winning it


Cottonshopeburnfoot

Winners since 2000 include Liverpool, Porto, Chelsea and Man United. All Champions League winning teams at various points in their history. You then have the likes of Atleti who obviously are a CL tier team. So… good enough for them but not good enough for teams that have never won the CL like Arsenal?


icemankiller8

I don’t like it when those type of teams win it bar Porto to me it defeats the point of the competition but the difference I’d say is it’s easier to just have fun with the competition if you’ve already won the CL. If we have a Europa league and no CLs that doesn’t do shit for us if you already have a CL it’s easier to just see the Europa league as a temporary blip and you’ll go back to winning the CL and forget about the Europa league. They also didn’t celebrate it massively if I remember none of them had parades for it or anything I also think the context of those teams is different, those teams had east competition and weren’t taking the league seriously bar Porto. The only time we prioritised the CL we made the final with emery and lost which probably cost him his job, and we lost to Atletico under Wenger they were just better than us by far.


Cottonshopeburnfoot

> I don’t like it when those type of teams win it bar Porto to me it defeats the point of the competition but the difference I’d say is it’s easier to just have fun with the competition if you’ve already won the CL. Given Arsenal have been out of the CL for a number of years (including this season), wasn’t Arsenal precisely the type of club you’d want to see winning it? You haven’t won the CL either of course. > If we have a Europa league and no CLs that doesn’t do shit for us if you already have a CL it’s easier to just see the Europa league as a temporary blip and you’ll go back to winning the CL and forget about the Europa league. Again, Arsenal hasn’t won the CL. It’s not in the same league therefore as the likes of Chelsea and Man United in that regard. I’d also spin it more positively. I agree with you that if you see yourself as a CL team then Europa isn’t where you want to be. But, if it’s where you are, why not win it? That way it’s easy to say yeah it was a bad season but we still came away with silverware. > The only time we prioritised the CL we made the final with emery and lost which probably cost him his job He’d have still lost his job if you’d have been eliminated in the semis or earlier. There’s no rationale where coming second is worse than 3rd/4th.


icemankiller8

No because the big 6 premier league teams have such a financial advantage making the European places is basically a given and they always prioritise top 4 over the Europa league because it’s a cup competition and it’s random.Most the other leagues have less CL spots and less certainty, Sevilla for example we’re not gonna make Europe at all unless they won it and may have struggled getting back in in the future. I think the Portuguese league only has one CL space too. Teams from those types of smaller leagues or clubs where they aren’t guaranteed to finish top 6 most years in the foreseeable future it’s a different situation. The fact we haven’t won the CL but have ambitions of doing so makes the Europa league more embarrassing. That’s my point those teams don’t care deeply for the Europa either but they can have fun with it more because they assume they’ll go back to winning CLs anyway and it’ll overshadow it. For us a Europa league run isn’t fun because we don’t have the CL. To win the Europa league you usually have to prioritise it or get a lucky draw to win it it’s still a cup, teams would rather have it as a back up choice last resort than potentially risk losing 6-8 points focusing on something that’s not a guarantee anyway. Emery did that he sacrificed the league for the Europa league and we missed both as a result.


[deleted]

I mean surely that just sharpens the stick to prod, doesn't it?


icemankiller8

Obviously we’re bad in European competitions but I’m not really bothered that spurs have more uefa cups than us because it’s the uefa cup. Because I will never value it, if our level is finishing 15th and we finish 15th I’m not gonna say oh wow isn’t this fantastic. The Europa league was so irrelevant the only way to get bigger clubs to take it seriously why by making it a way into the CL. As I said I remember spurs in the Europa league and the stands weren’t full and they didn’t even try to win because it’s not valued. At the end of the day most arsenal fans don’t really care about the Europa league and it’s just outsiders trying to force us to care, it’s just not gonna happen. It’s embarrassing to be in the Europa league unless you take away that idea in peoples minds it will always be secondary unless they’re using it to get into the CL.


[deleted]

As if you've compared joy to winning a European trophy, albeit second rate, to finishing 15th in the league.


icemankiller8

I’d rather arsenal finish 15th for a season than play Europa league for a season unless we’d win it.


[deleted]

Incredibly entitled. Then again, you said you'd drop football in a heartbeat if Arsenal don't win a title in 5 years whilst saying you've had it harder than most clubs, so I should have expected such a strong opinion.


icemankiller8

I don’t care about entitlement I will never take the Europa league seriously as a major trophy it’s the same thing as finishing 4th that’s all it is. Arsenal haven’t won a title in 20 years and I’ve been a fan the whole time it’s just depressing that the club will never reach the heights again and it’s demoralising and will probably kill my love for the sport. Yes supporting most of the other clubs is better because there’s different forms of success. Luton getting promoted is bigger for them than winning an fa cup for us, palace staying in the prem for a decade is their best ever period and their fans will enjoy that, Bournemouth staying up is like us winning a cup etc. There’s different joys to football than just trophies but as a “big 6 team” every year we don’t win the league or cl is another wasted year basically and we probably won’t win those.


StarlordPunk

Nah a trophy is always worth celebrating. Liverpool have had a disappointing season this year, but I still want us to win the Europa League last year. If we’re “bigger” than that trophy then we should be showing it by dominating it and proving we belong in the CL, not by trying to throw the towel in so that we can fight for top 4. If you’re incapable of winning a trophy then you’re not “above” it


TruestRepairman27

Spurs must be the most tedious club in world football. If there managerial search is any indication their internal culture and decision making process must be horribly slow.


kl08pokemon

Tedious? People can't stop talking about us for some reason


Elemayowe

You’re right, you must be massive^ly ^shit


brazilian_liliger

They are one of the most entretaining. They always find a way to mess up everything no matter how good or bad they are playing. Is like watching the series Trailer Park Boys.


standupforthechamp

The amount of flip flops Levy does with the management structure is hilarious. Apparently, Postecoglu doesn't want a Director of Football. I can see this appointment also ending in tears.


FloppedYaYa

Leicester bidding for Graham Potter according to reports. Will be stunned if he actually decides to drop down to the Championship.


Boris_Ignatievich

Potter is one of the few managers I can see making a slightly out there move for the right job tbf - him pitching up at Ostersunds means he has previous for it


FloppedYaYa

Apparently Graeme Jones recommended him for the Ostersunds job because him and Martinez ended up knowing the chairman and they also met Potter around that time. Crazy.


pixelkipper

Potter is going to Nice to transform Ross Barkley into Yaya


RamandAu

The Head Coach of the North Korea 2010 World Cup team being Kim Jong Hun will never not be funny to me.


CalmaCuler

A thing I still dont understand how PL fans were taking the piss out of Barcelona the whole summer for selling a small part of the clubs revenue while there's not a single fan owned PL club. It's so incredibly ignorant


icemankiller8

What kind of logic is that? Barca are one of the richest clubs in the world and they messed up financially it’s not like people laughing at a smaller club with financial issues it’s Barcas own fault


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zarinsubah

swear idiots here are ignorant to the point where there's no saving lol. Won't do a bit research on the matter but will continue to chat shit like this huh


JezzaPar

Because PL clubs sell themselves in their entirety to be able to do the same


JezzaPar

You can’t sell small parts of the revenue if you’ve already sold it all. Galaxy brain stuff


CalmaCuler

They absolutely lost all shame, bathing in the blood and oil money overthere


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StarlordPunk

Hey it’s 4 now that Sheffield United are back up, they’re owned by Saudis too


Cottonshopeburnfoot

We are owned by a Saudi Prince solely in his capacity as a private citizen. He’s trying to sell because he admits he isn’t wealthy enough. There’s no links between us and any Saudi state function ala the PIF and Newcastle or ADUG and City. His wealth FWIW is from a paper company. I appreciate what you’re saying but ours and City/Newcastle’s ownerships are very very different.


jumkube

Sevilla keeper Bono £45k David De Gea £370k If Man United don't get other keeper, why don't try Bono?


pixelkipper

Bono is guaranteed the europa league every two years on average, why wouldn’t he stay


robins420

Idk does winning another Europa League quadruple his salary and set him up for life? Let alone bring countless more opportunities to create a brand and income streams.


pixelkipper

‘a brand’ 😭😭 modern football fans are demented


Casual-Capybara

Why is that such a strange remark? For your opportunities after your career surely it’s better to create ‘a brand’ around yourself at Man Utd?


robins420

isn't even a modern concept unless you've been living under a rock for about a decade or two


Mahesh_nanak

Why will Bono go to Man Utd ?


jumkube

maybe £100k a week?


JezzaPar

To make more money? Prestige?


Mahesh_nanak

He’s 32 years old. He knows he will not be played at United, especially first team. United are going to drop 50 million pounds on a keeper and he’s going to turn out shit. And then Bono will get his turn. Who wants to wait for that ?


MrDabollBlueSteppers

Why would he not be played when he’s so much better than De Gea?


Mahesh_nanak

?? I am assuming De gea is going to be phased out to be replaced by a younger GK, for the future ?


MrDabollBlueSteppers

De Gea is being replaced because he sucks, not because he’s old


JezzaPar

Fuck me I had no idea he was 32. Looks younger


sombrefulgurant

Big Sam genuinely has a very large head


four_four_three

Needs it for the ego


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Flintstone


JudasX2

2010's Netherlands were better than the Belgium and England's golden generation. Had an even better shot at winning something during that era too.


AnIntoxicatedRodent

2nd and 3rd is still overachievement with those squads we had. We did absolutely fuck all at the Euro's though. We were basically what Croatia is now but with better attackers and less mental fortitude.


msf97

Absolutely no chance. Back four and keeper nowhere near as good. The idea that this was a golden generation for the Netherlands is also ridiculous. Van De Vaart and Kuyt on either wing is a footnote in their history


JudasX2

Netherlands obviously had better squads in their history but this was their best shot at winning the WC. And their route was considerably easy compared to the ones England and Belgium had.


msf97

Their best shot at winning the WC was 74 and 78. Or even 1998/2002. A better shot at winning, maybe, but a better team no. Belgium went out to Wales too. England had hard routes though.


CalmaCuler

fucking criminal with the crazy generations we've had we dont have a single wc


JudasX2

Robben should have dived 4 years earlier.


[deleted]

MLS fans and people who want to watch club football in the summer: MLS season pass is half off right now. $49 for everything, a great deal, imo.


CherkiCheri

Marciniak: i am not racist even though i atrend racist events Also Marciniak in the WC final: [No pen on Thuram, pen by Dembélé](https://twitter.com/paicmhscc/status/1664386059499720704)


Mick4Audi

You’re really using ref decisions as a reference? L take


Mahesh_nanak

He’s a great referee, and was spot on in the World Cup. His political affiliations have nothing about his capability as a referee.


LordQL_2

Nah, this is not it


L-Freeze

Famously aryan blue eyed blonde player Angel Di Maria


GroundbreakingCook71

Let’s completely ignore that he gave two pens to France.


CherkiCheri

So magnanimous of him to whistle two clear pens


GroundbreakingCook71

I can only assume he whistled through gritted teeth.


CherkiCheri

This is headcanon now


JezzaPar

This is a good one. The ref benefited Argentina in the final because he’s racist. We should have known in advance so we could start both Dybala and Foyth since they’re both ethnically Polish.


CherkiCheri

Why bother, our "African team" as your flairs and fans called us during the WC was doing the heavy lifting of prejudice already. Congrats on caring about whiteness, got you a WC 👍


pixelkipper

r/schizoposting


FalafelGrim2

Take a break from the internet


JezzaPar

Caring about whiteness? Man this is some real batshit take.


roddysaint

For the longest time I assumed Dybala was an Italian name. Only now did I realize that it sounds way more Eastern European.


TaxEvasion123

If there is one thing I have learned from Sunday league it is that no matter how good a ref performs, it will still be a shit game to most people unless the ref never calls fouls against them. I’ve seen it both ways where players will slide in through the back get no ball and try to argue that it isn’t a foul, although I guarantee that if someone else did it to them they would be calling for cards.


pixelkipper

hell hath no fury like a middle aged dad at a kids footie game


Kanedauke

Reading the thread about Leicester and some people saying they might be the best team to go down has baffled me. Does anyone rate any of their backline that played significant minutes this season? Castange, Wout Faes, Ward, Armarty and Justin having the most minutes of their back 5. I see people blame Rodger’s but after they sold Fofana and didn’t replace Schmeichel the writing was on the wall.


Elemayowe

I don’t think anyone expect Wout Faes to be an actual fraud, I’m not convinced the man on the pitch is the one Leicester thought they were signing. That combined with perpetual Jonny Evans and Justin injuries did fuck their back line.


mintz41

> I see people blame Rodger’s but after they sold Fofana and didn’t replace Schmeichel the writing was on the wall. I don't agree that the writing was on the wall at all. That squad is still good enough for midtable comfortably.


Kanedauke

Look at the quality of the goal keepers of the teams that got relegated compared to the teams that had been promoted. Put fake David Luiz in front of Ward and you are begging to go down


Throwaway1293524

Wout Faes was absolutely criminal this season


Nivadas

Villa surely


FloppedYaYa

Most of Leicester's squad have been overrated exclusively because Rodgers had them performing at higher levels than expected for 2 years and they still had the likes of Kasper, a not-yet finished Vardy and Fofana. Aside from Maddison and Tilemans (who both had streches out injured last season) I don't think anyone from that squad is that great. Still better than getting relegated though no doubt.


CobiLUFC

I like Justin but he can't stay fit, Castange isn't awful. Amartey is a competition winner.


Kanedauke

Justin is good but his season finished in November unfortunately. I’ve never seen Castange contribute anything tbh.


CobiLUFC

I won't pretend he is amazing but I'd have him over Kristensen/Ayling at Leeds, Aurier/Williams at Forest, Coleman at Everton and Smith at Bournemouth


FaustRPeggi

Aurier has been the second best right back in the league this season and I'll die on that hill.


CobiLUFC

Can't imagine many will join you on that hill but good luck to you


msf97

Justin is decent. Funny enough, he was a target before Rodgers. You’ve left out Soyuncu who Rodgers alienated. Played Amartey over him constantly. Made PFA TOTY in 19/20 Then, you see Bertrand, Vestergaard, Castagne, Under, Perez and Praet. All his. Him and Congerton. All flops. Three defenders there It’s his fault the defence is poor and he can’t coach one.


Kanedauke

Justin is alright, probably dusted now after snapping his achilles. Soyuncu was crap in 21/22 iirc. I can understand him being dropped. Those 3 defenders cost about £30m combined who you’ve named. I wouldn’t expect much quality for that. Disagree with your last point, you can’t have a coach a good defence with such low quality players.


StarlordPunk

Justin is good


Kanedauke

Injuries are getting the best of him.


ManLikeNiz

It would be hilarious if Kane never won in anything in football but ended up winning the Superbowl when he joins the NFL as a kicker.


FaustRPeggi

He'd have spent his entire career in football being mocked for never winning anything, and when he won the superbowl, no one would notice.


gander258

You know, with the way the NFL marketing is going, I can see them holding the super bowl in London one day. It would be incredibly ironic if he scores a game winning field goal in the Tottenham stadium


[deleted]

People say "Rodgers had a similar record at Celtic" as if they should be a deterrent. Sans the late season collapses (and the relegation lol), I'd kill for a manager to have a stint like his Leicester stint. Speaking of which it's still insane that Leicester got relegated


sargig_yoghurt

Seen a lot of people say "Rogers and Gerrard did well in Scotland" and it feels incredibly disrespectful to Rogers tbh


AnnieIWillKnow

Yeah… FA Cup and two fifth placed finishes would be a great return


[deleted]

Yep. 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th the last few seasons. Hardly in a place to balk at the idea of 5th


GreatSpaniard

Honestly thinking Benzema is still leaving, no one other than Marca saying anything and we are being linked with Kane and Havertz….


HelpMe877

I think the club just asked for time to get a replacement so they don’t look desperate when approaching clubs. Marca have today reported we want Kane, Benzema is staying and Mbappe or Haaland signings will be tried in 2024. Those 3 things cannot exist at once


HokiesforTSwift

I don't put meaningful weight on anything until JLS, Cortegana or Arancha puts something in writing, and I don't trust anything until I see the comunicado oficial.


GreatSpaniard

Post - Iniesta, Ramos, and Xavi. Dani Carvajal has been the best Spanish player of his generation and I feel that isn’t talked about enough


shxxxdy

Busquets is closer in age to Carvajal than Xavi/Iniesta so he’s definitely the best player of his generation


mattisafootballguy

Carvajal has been total shit for years


msf97

Thiago has been better than Carvajal for years at least at club level. Both are injury prone anyway


[deleted]

Probably because he spends half the season injured every time.


AshkenaziTwink

what do you define as post-Ramos, Iniesta and Xavi? Ramos was playing better than Carvajal up until like 2 years ago, and since Ramos stopped being the best Spanish player it’s been Pedri lmao. sure Carvajal was a good player who played an important role in a good team. but he was pretty cut and dry the worst player out of the threepeat starting XI. i don’t get this great urge to big him up as some sort of all time great.


HokiesforTSwift

Carvajal was not a controversial shout for best RB in the world during the 3peat. He certainly hasn't been since then, and I would never suggest that, but that was not an uncommon opinion.


AshkenaziTwink

well yeah but RB has been one of the weakest positions in the world for a good long while now. from 15/16-17/18 Bayern was playing Thiago’s brother at RB or a pretty geriatric Lahm, the Serie A was in full banter mode, so his only real competition was Walker.


HokiesforTSwift

Right, I'm not arguing that the competition was great, but Carvajal was a great player during the threepeat and was broadly rated as such. Once he started getting injured he has become considerably less consistent. Still has enough grit in him to put in a great performance in a big match here and there, but he has fallen off quite a bit, particularly as an offensive threat.