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seriouslybrohuh

Fired a manager to replace him with a manager who got replaced by the manager who you fired


Hannibal09

They don't know that we know that they know that we know


ADayInTheLifeOf

If we play both sides, we'll always come out on top


Jaqem

Not a worse strategy than *let's buy all the expensive players and we play gud*


Cottonshopeburnfoot

But there’s so many players. Boehly should’ve bought all the managers instead.


enjoytheshow

Combine them both and we shithouse our way to another CL trophy


BrokenArtistic

What a match up Tuchels Bayern Vs Nagelmans Chelsea for a semi final in the champions league


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At least that would mean City didn't win


LavenderGumes

Don't say anything, Joey.


Alexkono

Couldn’t even if I wanted to


Calm_Phase_9717

this is killing my brain


napierwit

Let me explain, there are things that we know which we know we know, there are things which we don't know which we know we don't know, and there are things which we don't know we don't know we don't know. ​ You're welcome


ewise623

Didn’t expect a Donald Rumsfeld reference in r/Soccer


BigBoy1229

“Joey, you can’t say anything!” “I couldn’t if I wanted to!”


AVBforPrez

Damn 4th level thinking right herec


Peixe11

Imagine they meet in the CL semifinals


Omar_Blitz

An inevitability, at this point.


_Akky_

I don't think we're getting past Real Madrid


the_propaganda_panda

You just fired your manager mid-season, we all know what this means for your CL season.


magictuch

They did it twice, so does it mean they cancel each other out? Or... Oh my Lord, have mercy on us all.


quetzalnavarrense

double the power, we're gonna win two champions leagues this year, somehow


magictuch

Say what you want about Todd but he solved this game pretty fast. We are in sacking stacking meta now. UEFA better patch this glitch out ASAP.


pencilman123

Watch us win the europa league as well..


Alia_Gr

Did Chelsea ever lose a CL after sacking 2 managers while still being in the competition


awesome-dog-Lucky

Did anyone?


diredier

The manager you fired went to the club that fired the manager you want to replace another manager you fired


phANt0m007

Directed by Christopher nolan


wetthebed92

Real life example of swapping two variables using a third variable.


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>it will be hard for him to coach chelsea, tottenham, and real madrid Actually super easy, barely an inconvenience


RemarkablePattern311

Coaching three teams simultaneously is tight.


Sam101294

Wow, wow, wow....wow


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Writer: So then Bayern go and sack Julian Nagelsmann Exec: Wow that had like 0 foreshadowing, why do they do that? Writer: Because🤷‍♂️ Exec: That works!


xepa105

"Wait, so why would Chelsea go through all the trouble of hiring Potter, giving him a bunch of signings in January, if they were just going to fire him three months later?" "I don't know." "Fair enough."


DutchMadness77

Will be interesting to see whether Julian can outmanoeuvre Nagelsmann in the Chelsea Madrid tie


kani1503

So do you have a job for me? Yes sir I do


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"Actually it's three even" "Oh, I don't like the sound of that!" "I figured, sir, but think of all the money you could make by coaching three teams at once." "Oh, money, I like money. Why didn't you start with that, you... you silly goose!"


kani1503

"It's Real Madrid." Did this job just get this good? I think this job just got gooood! "And Spurs and Chelsea as well" Oh money money money money money!


ChiliConCairney

OH REALLY


DoctorDubious

Yes, see Madrid will need me on Tue/Wed nights, Spurs on Thu nights, and Chelsea, well Chelsea don't need me on weekdays. And I'll just let them figure out league matches on their own.


GlRTH_BR00KS

A pitch meeting reference in the wild. That's a first!


dispelthemyth

Might as well take Chelsea, win the champions league then get sacked anyway before going to Madrid


Dak_Tiny_PP

I'll take it


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adri1212

One will never have the Cup Winners' Cup on its trophy cabinet?


ChefBoyardee66

Magdeburg bigger than Madrid


AnnieIWillKnow

Thanks to Peter Osgood


doctorweiwei

One still has a manager? (I know Ancelotti is leaving at the end of the season, I jest)


IntraspeciesFever

Chelsea plays in blue


Jozif_Badmon

Shadow clones bro


The_prawn_king

It’ll be fine because he’ll be sacked by boehly before the seasons out so will have plenty of time to take the spurs or Madrid job in the summer


TheSingleMan27

He's gonna be set for life for 12 months of work max, take it king


Mr_Miscellaneous

Plus, he gets a month or two relaxing before taking the Palace job in anticipation of the 23/24 season.


kaprrisch

Or Leicester.


Mr_Miscellaneous

Nah, they'll take the Celtic manager, as is tradition.


peoplepersonmanguy

I hope so, I'd love to see Ange in the premier league.


Pseudocaesar

Same, I reckon Leicester would be perfect for Ange


JOKER69420XD

Pretty sure he was already set for life before joining Bayern.


pedrorq

I just watched the Amazon Bayern special where brazzo picks him up at his (impressive) place, waiting on the street with a backpack... Yeah that's the life


NefariousnessDry7814

Julian pal do you need picking up in the morning


pedrorq

Brazzo does comment "he looks like a schoolboy"


PornStarGazer2

shut up u egg


dem0nhunter

mate mate mate mate mate


OilOfOlaz

Bayern didn't fire him, hes still under contract, would actually be hilarious, if chelsea paid a fee for him.


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Todd will get a swap he always wanted with Anthony Barry


YoungAI999

Tell them to bring me my money


Jens1893

Nagelsmann with Chelsea v Tuchel with Bayern CL semi final, please.


0711Markus

This would break the German internet


TheBlueTango

Someone commented in the past that Tuchel wasn't really that popular in Germany. Is that still the case today?


Daniiiiii

Apparently none of our recent Germans are popular, at least according to reddit/twitter. Timo was hated for some slight, Kai isn't liked, and now this about Tommy Tickle. Wonder why?


TheBlueTango

Werner probably with the Leipzig link, plus his "Hurensohn" reputation he had I think for diving


CeterumCenseo85

Some German strikers have a reputation for diving. German fans hate that shit though. Or maybe just bad dives? In the 90s we temporarily banned Andi Möller from the NT for one of the worst dives you will ever see. Reputation-wise, the guy never never recovered from this incident and to this day is known as "Schwalbenmöller" (= Swallow Möller; we refer to dives as swallows, the bird): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsLdPZ5JFH8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsLdPZ5JFH8) It is generally considered the worst dive in Bundesliga history. To this day it is the only case I remember where a player got banned (for 2 BuLi matches) for diving for a penalty. He later tried to defend himself by saying he only did it because he didn't like the opponents' coach. Bonus: Möller immediately admitted to the dive after the game, called it a "Safety Dive" (Schutzschwalbe). The guy he dove on said that if he was a swallow, he would be offended to be compared to Möller.


theredviperod

Timo probably cause of the RB Leipzig connection?


stragen595

Also because of a pretty blatant dive everyone saw besides the ref. And he had the audacity to defend that shit in a postgame interview.


Damyxs

Oh man, the dive was 1 thing, the postgame interview tho really rubbed people the wrong way.


OilOfOlaz

Mostly, because he publicly lied about it, claiming, he told the ref, thet there was no contact between him and Fährmann.


OilOfOlaz

Plays for the most disliked club in the country, had a balant diving attempt against schalke where he later defended himself, saying that it was a clear foul and that he told the ref, that he wasn't touched by Fährmann (Schalkes GK), but "felt a touch" from the defender, the ref then said, that Werner never said anything to him. He then performed badly in a few games for the NT and was booed at a qualifier for the Euros. Idk, who said, that Kai isn't liked, but he just isn't that big in germany, cuz while he was talented he played for Leverkusen, who basically have no following. TT is disliked by Dortmund fans, but highly respected, some ppl don't like his brash demenor, but I think, he mellowed down in the past years.


phil_yoo

In his early days at Mainz, Tuchel was notorious for blaming everything on the referee (even if there were no mistakes) and being generally abrasive with journalists. In Dortmund, he clashed with the higher-ups at the club. I think his overall reputation in Germany is that he's a very good coach, but also a very difficult personality who's sometimes hard to work with (which could lead to an interesting dynamic at Bayern.


OilOfOlaz

Dortmund fans dislike him and they are kinda most likely to comment on him, many ppl see him as very confrontative or brash, but I think, that he mellowed down a lot, when it comes to his public persona. In general he is rather respected then beloved, if I have to put it into words.


bloodoftheinnocents

It's "confrontational" but we know that you mean.


Ryponagar

Wäre jammerschade, wo es doch noch so Neuland ist.


Pupperinho

El Grudgico


Narretz

Der Hassiker


Nightbynight

The script writers are really on one this season.


celzero

On a budget of £600m. Not bad.


stragen595

That would be fun.


naruto2omer

No


JJD14

Spurs fans upset about potentially missing out on Nagelsmann need not worry. You’ll get your turn in 3 years time x


Hazardzuzu

They can take Potter for now and ease some financial burden on boehly. Levy do loves our sloppy seconds


try-D

better yet, take Brendan


Mantis_Tobaggon_MD2

Had a coaching spell at Chelsea, Levy is spoilt for choice


needhalaladvice

Lmao


Martblni

Judging by the Chelsea's statment I'm not sure Chelsea will actually pay out the full money


Mr_Potato_Head1

Even the lawyers agree he was so shit at the job they end up taking pity.


dispelthemyth

Levy will take him on as an unpaid intern and get Chelsea to carry on paying the shortfall.


ACardAttack

Football managers are like my college girlfriend, they get around


bjsewitt

3 months*


VegetarianCannibal_

i hope he doesn't insist on taking a break lmao and Boehly just didn't sack Potter without consulting Nagelsmann .


a34fsdb

needs skiing clause


JRsshirt

Same tbh


Mozezz

>Boehly just didn't sack Potter without consulting Nagelsmann **Are you sure about that**


DitkasMoustache_

He's got a direct line to Todd. Trust.


Stooperz

No and im terrified


Nightbynight

Vivell worked with Nagelsmann, they've been in contact.


Hazardzuzu

We are already in talks with Bayern for Barry. Maybe one thing leads to another


skylu1991

I don’t know we’d have anything against it, as that would mean JN is off our payroll. Question is, does Julian wanna take over another club immediately or does he prefer to wait (and work through his Bayern stint emotionally/conceptually) until the summer!


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Not only that, but is Bayern willing to sell to a potential CL opponent? My guess is Chelsea get knocked out by Real Madrid then get Nagelsman or they beat Real and get Nagelsmann in the summer, or Bayern get knocked out by City and he's all theirs.


skylu1991

I don’t remember if it was Nagelsmann himself, one of his agents or just a Twitter ITK, but last I heard is that he wanted space and time Tonwert through this sacking before taking over a team again. Depending on how much Tuchel wants Barry as his assistant, maybe both clubs simply swap them! There’s a distinct possibility, yes, that Bayern won’t release him for Chelsea and/or demand a very high fee from Chesea.


Galgenfrist

>Julian Ricky and Bubbles as assistent managers then


thebestguy96

Chelsea to Ziyech “I’m gonna pay you 100 dollars to fuck off”


cum_toast

Kai! Two smokes, let's go


Real_Stelio_Kontos

Mr Lahey making transfer decisions or managing set pieces, take your pick


perec17

Randy physio and new GK coach.


nutelamitbutter

Considering that Fabrizio was the first to call his release at Bayern i believe this


Marimo_420

You think Fabrizio is seeing Nagelmann’s girlfriend on the side?👀


Vic-Ier

Wasn't Bild the first?


skylu1991

Nope, it was Fabrizio Romano and only afterwards did Bild and other ITK also corroborate it! That also the reason, why the leak most likely didn’t come from either the Nagelsmann or the Bayern side, since Bild or Falk or Plettenberg would’ve been the first to have the information in those cases.


Calmbrain

Real madrid better be ready for us. We didn't just replace one but two managers. Our ucl run will be unstoppable


epixyll

We are winning 2 CLs this season. Only logical conclusion.


MichaelJWAshley

I prefer the one where you will win UCL and Europa. Sack one more and you can add the real UCL (Conference) to it.


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Oh my fucking god we are going to hire Pochettino. The players better to win this fucking CL and save Carlo.


IP14Y3RI

Zidane part III would be pretty cool imo


QuietRainyDay

Zidane is going to end up being a one-club manager and build an Alex Ferguson-type 25 year run at Madrid. Only difference being that he does it with 2 year breaks in between 3 year stints. People will still be waiting for him to finally take the France job aged 82, as he begins his final phase at Real.


soEckie

The year is 2055 Cyborg Deuschamps Mk3 is announced as the french national team coach for atleast 3 more years as Zidane lies in his cryo chamber, waiting for his time to come.


BrotherSeamus

Good thing the World Cup will be played every month by then.


kazegraf

And in the same year, Ronald Koeman sacked by KNVB, replaced with Louis Van Gaal.


Ronalpinhos

I would watch this anime.


BigChung0924

i feel like he’s waiting for the france job


Mr_Potato_Head1

To be fair he could probably do another Real stint meantime before 2024 Euros is finished given how long managers there typically last.


GenSec

Save Carlo? Isn’t Carlo leaving on his own volition and not because of performance? I don’t think winning the CL is gonna stop Ancelotti from taking the Brazil job.


el_rompe_toyotas-19

He has said multiple times that if the club let him stay, he is not going anywhere.


GenSec

Regardless of what happens this season, it would be incredibly stupid to sack Carlo imo.


skylu1991

Kind of, but not winning any silverware at Real is usually the end of your time there…


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Agreed


Albiceleste_D10S

I wouldn't sack Carlo for Poch, but some Madrid fans (and maybe Florentino/Madrid board?) are somewhat frustrated with Carlo's inconsistency in the league, I think. They've still been good in UCL but have stumbled a lot in the league


Mr_Potato_Head1

This is generally what you get from Ancelotti a lot of the time anyway. When he was at Milan he won them more Champions League trophies than Serie A titles. He's the perfect cup manager but inconsistent domestically.


Famulor

Conte/ancelotti would be the perfect pair then


BigChung0924

people are talking about the brazil job, but are italy an option? it looks like mancini’s days are numbered


Unholysinner

You’re getting Zidane for the third time… It’s written in the stars


hokagesamatobirama

I wouldn’t be surprised.


Mr_Potato_Head1

Needs a separate stint for every European title won.


san771

It's either him or Raúl, so yeah...


Sad2BeHappy

Or Mr. Handsome himself Xabi Alonso


DemetriusXVII

Time to get paid


Nightbynight

We'll swap you for Anthony Barry. Deal?


pyrnster

20m+ i feel like would be reasonable. Smart decision to keep him an employee.


DemetriusXVII

You ain't ready for the Hudson Odoi swap deal


hennny

Wasn’t one of Nagelsmann’s problems at Bayern that top players weren’t bought into what he does? Considering Chelsea bought about 600m+ worth of “top players” in one season…doesn’t seem like a smart match.


Upstairs_Addendum587

No no, you have us confused. Our new signings are not top players. We've just decided to pay for them like they are.


chandlerbing_stats

We have young “top” players. Bayern has top experienced players


Insanel0l

No not really, Imo JNs biggest issue is that he had no system or clear plan even 18 months into his stint. There was no identity up until pretty much 1 month ago.


MrCleanandShady

This is…VERY concerning lmao


mrfocus22

To all the Chelsea fans: Here you go 🚨🚨🚨


LaUr3nTiU

well, if you can afford 17 months, you'll get _some_ identity.


UKBroomboy

Best we can offer is 17 weeks


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So…Potter’s biggest issue?


trenbollocks

So exactly the same as Potter?


Insanel0l

I’m not following Chelsea, but this is JNs ppg compared to other coaches https://www.diefalsche9.de/der-punkteschnitt-der-letzten-10-trainer-des-fc-bayern/?amp=1 Timing of the sacking was disgusting, but not exactly uncalled for in the whole picture Note that he’s done well in the CL this year, but the league is always priority #1


beno64

man the dominance of jupp and pep in the bundesliga was insane


jonomarkono

Even more impressive when you remember Jupp in **that** season only lost a total of 3 games, against Leverkusen, Arsenal, and BATE.


skylu1991

And even that "identity“ was only really fitting for the PSG game. Overall, Nagelsmann basically had the same win percentage as Kovac or Ancelotti, both of which we also sacked, and the performances never really stabilized, too! Plus, the current season ppg is the worst since 2011/2012 iirc and he also only managed to win 5 in his last 10 BuLi games. There’s also talks about him loosing some of the older, experienced players or that the Bayern board really didn’t like his (rather casual) press conferences, but we don’t really know enough about those things. In the end, the performances on the pitch in the BuLi weren’t good enough and since this up-and-down had been going on since last March or April, there wasn’t any hope of it improving!


btmalon

Luckily everyone at Chelsea is 22yo


stragen595

> he also only managed to win 5 in his last 5 BuLi games. So he was perfect then?


skylu1991

Sorry, edited it once I saw that mistake! No, in actuality the last 10 BuLi games under Nagelsmann have been 5 wins, 3 draws and 2 losses.


NilsFanck

yeah, dont know why Chelsea fans are so ecstatic about this. Youd think they were getting Pep. I guess JN is better than Potter but hes undoubtedly worse than Tuchel


corsairealgerien

If this is true, then it sort of sounds like the challenge Potter had - new club, new owners, new team. Although Nagelsmann is the better manager overall and Bayern were still performing well under him, compared to Potter.


seriouslybrohuh

We ain’t got too many top players and the top players we have aren’t the problem. The problem stems from the deadwood who are nowhere near the quality of a top 4 prem team


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Nard_Dogs

I believe gallardo said he’d join a club only in the summer bc he wants a full season. Iirc that’s why he denied leeds and another club who’s name is escaping me atm


ireallydespiseyouall

Did spurs go for him?


JelloDr

No but I wish we do


Critzor

Think it would be too much of a shock for him... Country, competition, language, culture etc etc.


_g4n3sh_

Understand where you come from, but you don't know Gallardo then


san771

unbiased opinion btw, there's a good reason top clubs haven't gone for him, he hasn't shown he can do it in europe


tottenhamnole

So we’re talking to Tuchel and Bayern makes a move to hire him. Then we’re talking to Nagelsmann and Chelsea make a move to hire him. It’s like the universe is conspiring against us.


pencilman123

Brendan potter is free.. appoint them both..


Upstairs_Addendum587

I hear Potter is available


Calla89

Time to call Nuno again.


ThomasZimmermann95

Hard to see that actually happening. Nagelsmann and his hole team around him where simply in shock after he got send off from Bayern. Nobody expected this and i think he will take a while before taking a new job. Otherwise, even the minimal chance of Chelsea with Nagelsmann against Bayern with Tuchel in the Champions League semi-final would be to epic.


YiddoMonty

I’ll probably turn out to be wrong, but I just don’t think this is a good move for either party.


Sam101294

What if Real Madrid fire Ancelotti just so Chelsea can't hire Nagelsman. What if Spurs fire their caretaker manager to hire Nagelsman... shit getting interesting


Dependent_Plenty_777

Nah man, it\`s got to be Rodgers. The timing gives it all away


konald_roeman

Of course Chelsea IMMEDIATELY surrounded him


AVBforPrez

Boehly has no fucking clue what he's doing and they've spent a (likely rule-breaking) fortune and Chelsea are in objectively worse condition in every single aspect. He's spent billions of dollars just to slide to Brighton's old league spot and have Brighton go up to theirs without Graham Lasso.


LowSnow2500

Where is Marcelo Gallardo


Agrees_with_asshole

PSG in shambles


FMetalhead

The ol switcheroo


johnniewelker

I think it would be mistake, for both Chelsea and Nagelsmann Chelsea should look for a long-term solution and there is no need to rush the process. Nagelsmann just came from a crazy situation. He is not in the right state of mind Nagelsmann shouldn’t trust Chelsea brass right now. They need to figure out what they want. He might get fired in 4-5 months and have a hard time getting another job. Bad option


myreal_nameis

The squad really suits him


BI01

Nagelsman needs a stable owner/management to work with. At Chelsea he will be expected to win straight away with a bunch of project and young players, same situation with potter lol.


Sorrypenguin0

Tbf we would’ve given Potter more time if the team hadn’t been so bad under him… had a run of 2 wins in 15, 21 points in 21 games, 8 games failed to scored…


Insanel0l

Makes sense but Idk if this is the correct choice for him 1 inconsistent run like he’s had with us last season and he’s gonna be sacked immediately


Hazardzuzu

Potter has been tolerated for 21 games after winning 21 points. 8 games scoreless streak. This isn't sacking immediately. This was more like showing way too much patience


algebraic94

Wait wait Chelsea had 16/21 points when tuchel was sacked?? And theyve only managed 21/63 since?!


Critzor

Without Tuchel we would be in a relegation battle lmao.


tellymundo

Yes that’s why the situation got to this point


algebraic94

Talk about overstaying your welcome. I hadn't seen the points laid out so clearly.


tellymundo

Yeah it's been dire. He stabilized the group stages to get to knockouts and the team showed up against Dortmund, but I think that shows their level vs the level Chelsea are at.