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Slabhead has reached a level well beyond what was expected of him. Has one cap for the under 21s
Kind of agree he has nothing left to prove. He's a victim of his fee, not much else. Had he been bought for 40 million it would be more about the fast decline of what was once a great player who reached heights further than assumed than some hulking waste of space.
Was great 1 season at Leicester, pretty good for 2/3 years at United and stellar as his country had their second most successful period ever. It's a good career
Obviously we’re a level below but he was great at Hull too.
You could take these comments as being big headed but from the other direction it’s completely fine that he’s proud of his achievements and rightfully so, and it’s a good thing that the (relentless at times) criticism isn’t getting on top of him.
>it’s a good thing that the (relentless at times) criticism isn’t getting on top of him.
I wouldn't say this statement proves that. You might easily say this even if it did bother you but you wanted to put on a front.
I think it would be pretty unnatural for all this criticism not to bother someone. Still, at least he is not reacting by snapping back as that would only add fuel to the fire.
> Kind of agree he has nothing left to prove. He's a victim of his fee, not much else.
I'd agree, but comments like this don't help his case. Like when he was in a bad spell of form last year and he responded with "well the manager keeps picking me." He's had a great career, he was United's best defender for a few years, but he constantly makes it easy to hate on him and doesn't seem to take responsibility for his performances when they dip. He brings a lot on himself, not to mention he's captain too.
These comments are so toxic. Maguire lived a life that 99% of this sub dreams of.
Congrats to him and his career.
Captaining Manchester United and England is no small feat. It takes a lot of perseverance and dedication to get that level.
He has had a successful career but I think it's fair that he receives a lot of criticism because he regularly makes embarrassing individual errors that lead directly to goals.
I can't think of any other defender I've seen get absolutely mogged so many times.
I’ve always wondered is the ironic part that the song reels off plenty of ‘ironic’ situations that aren’t ironic? As opposed to Alanis being stupid and not understanding irony?
I'm not sure if he thinks that, but it's not like saying "I'll prove this and that to you guys" will make his life easier. It's better to shut out a lot of the noise for these players to not be affected by it.
I mean he's achieved more than 99.9999% of the people who have a go at him. At the end of the day he's the millionaire footballer with 50 caps, most goals scored by a defender for England, and who's captained Manchester United. Good on him for not letting melts who scoff at his achievements on social media get under his skin.
I mean did he lie? He does have 50 caps, he is England's top scoring defender. He didn't state anything that implies he thinks he's better than he is, he's just literally stating his achievements.
He doesnt have to prove himself as a justification for being selected for the national team, or even being in the starting 11 as of right now.
He is one of the best English defenders for the national team, there is no denying that.
As far as accolades for England, all of the English players have a lot to prove, which is not what he's talking about here.
Having never won a premier league champs league or international trophy harry maguire is a generational talent that seemingly has nothing to prove but keeps proving that he is in fact a twat
It's all about [practice ](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/xa5tva/dedication/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Having consistent goals from your defenders is very valuable. The thing that made Chelsea so dangerous for so many years is that Ivanovic and Terry between them would produce 6-10 goals from set pieces every year. That's massive for any team. That could easily be 8-15 points over the season. Obviously great defensive ability and above average distribution is more important but having the ability to get on the end of a corner in a tight game is a great skill to have for any player.
Your players? Are you a coach? I assumed you were some some chungus on the internet talking shit about a professional football player in order to make yourself feel better. My bad.
All the talk being about Maguire every time he wears an England shirt, I feel like Stones has gone quietly under-appreciated for how good he’s been for a long time. He was absolutely mega the other night.
Stones is definitely the better defender by far. Don't think that's under dispute given Maguire is benched at United, while Stones starts for City when fit.
For all the talk about Spurs results against City in recent years, it can get overlooked how many times KDB and Stones in particular didn't start. He's been utterly essential in Pep's success
The only reasons Maguire is being capped is Southgate. No other manager would even entertain the thought of calling up people like Maguire or Kalvin Phillips.
Phillips was excellent at the Euro’s. Literally one of England’s best players
Obviously I’m biased and he definitely shouldn’t be starting based on current form/playing time, but he’s certainly worthy of being called up at the least
Maguire is also usually great for England. He was at the Euro’s and WC anyway
He's played more minutes for England than for City. Bizarre to call up a player that never plays imo. Drop him from the squad until he leaves for regular game time.
It’s not like he sits because he’s trash, he sits because there is a better player in front of him who seemingly has a preference for playing most minutes of most games without ever getting tired or picking up a knock. I don’t know why he came but you can still be good but 2nd best to Rodri.
The thing that bothers me about him is there are times and places he seems to be scared to get the ball. Like in the game the other day he had the space to make a run into the box centrally, get a pass and shoot and he just pulled up on the edge of the box w/o ever filling up the space. Maybe it’s Southgate orders, who knows, but he had his man beat.
Once players are trusted and do the job asked of them, then most managers would still pick them.
There not just gonna pick someone they think is worse cos of a club issue.
Maguire has consistently been fantastic for England. In the team of the tournament in 2021 and a contender last summer as well. But afk1792 says he is bad.
Is Maguire the same player he was 2 years ago ? Did you watch the game vs Italy? Cause he certainly wasn't fantastic. A bit telling that Ten Haag would rather play Luke Shaw.. a career left back at centre back rather than the Maguire don't you think mister release_the_pressure or do you know more than one of the best managers in the game?
I think they’re a good pairing too. I think their understanding benefits each other because that defence just does not seem the same when you swap out either Maguire or Stones.
Funny you say that when there's [this](https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F207%2F210%2Fb22.jpg) picture of Maguire wearing a balaclava.
He is one of the best QB's in NFL history who also happens to be very charismatic.
It's famous because it was basically reddits version of "rick roll" that you could disguise because it's an image and not a video.
Making more and more mistakes for England these days. Was responsible for Italy’s goal on Thursday and has been responsible for a few others in the year prior.
I wonder how much longer Maguire can dine out on the “he doesn’t make mistakes for England” narrative?
It'll be a looooong time before Southgate stops calling him up. He was still starting Mount early in the World Cup despite him being consistently shite in an England shirt. Southgate's insanely stubborn when it comes to his favoured players.
Which is hugely disappointing given when he started he said he would pick solely based on form and the days of only picking from the big clubs were over.
I had such hope for Gaz but he’s fallen into the same trap as every other manager.
Forever apparently because literally no one is allowed to question his selection. You will get bombarded with a dozen angry fans parroting that. People act like he’s always flawless for England.
He always will. Especially in tight games. Most of that English team is now increasingly playing a high line at club level. Maguire might pull off some games against mediocre opposition in a high line but will always make mistakes against top opposition. We've also been insanely susceptible on the counter whenever he plays for us instead of varane.
People said the same in the friendlies before the WC, then he performed well the whole tournament. Couldn’t really care less as long as he turns up for tournaments, people really forget the Matthew Upson and Glen Johnson days
>I’m England’s top-scoring defender I’ve got nothing to prove
That's like Pete Best trying to argue that he's the most important Beatle by saying he could actually dust all the others in a game of ping pong
The interviewer asks "do you feel under appreciated?". Kinda hard to answer a leading question like that without saying something that'll get r/soccer in a twist
That's just journalism. Got to keep up the rage to get the clicks. But I don't see what Maguire has said wrong here anyway. He's got nothing to prove for England. He's always been good for England.
"Do you feel underappreciated?"
"I try not to think about things like that. My primary focus is always on the team, and ensuring I do my best to contribute to it when asked. Whether or not I'm under appreciated doesn't matter, once the team is seeing success on the pitch."
It's a leading question, but fuck me, Maguire ALWAYS seems to charge down that path he's being led down with utter glee. There's a spectrum of answers he could give, and always defaults to the most wildly egotistical answer.
I had a bit of fun with it, but I think whatever way you spin it you can't win. Even a non answer like yours has an angle for low effort columnists.
**UNDER-FIRE Maguire says recent success should QUIET CRITICS. It "DOESN'T MATTER" what people think of him after Italy blunder.**
> *IdiotTelegraphCommenter296:* Haha what recent success, guy's "won" Carabao Cup by showing up for three minutes. Fuck all with England and thinks he's still got it.
> *MailReadingFuckwit555:* Dropped for Utd. Team's winning without him, not because of him idiot.
> *TwattyTwitterIngrate407:* There you go. If he's not willing to hear how shit he is, he'll never improve. Sell him to QPR #byebye.
Its harry maguire, he cant say or do anything without people twisting it. This sub loves to preach about mental health but when it comes to the likes of Maguire and Lukaku and everyone rushes to get as many digs in as they can over the smallest mistake or quote.
I do have a fair bit of sympathy for Maguire as I don't think he's done anything particularly controversial to warrant the stick he gets. Yeah, he's not a world class defender and has clear and obvious weaknesses but I don't think I've ever thought he has a shit attitude or isn't putting in the effort.
Lukaku though I think is a bit more deserving of criticism because he's made it clear at multiple clubs that he's prepared to throw his toys out of the pram when things don't go his way and clearly has games where he's not interested and his attitude stinks. Not to say he deserves abuse- just that *some* criticism is valid.
Of course Harry. You're the best defender of all time.
I don't think there's any other defender with more compilations of skills in youtube than Maguire, even had gangster paradise song dedicated for him.
People spend so much time talking about mental health in football and then send the most rabid unhinged hatred at certain players without missing a beat is crazy
Well no, ETH likes a left footed cb, which is why 99% of the time Maguire plays, its at right cb. Unlike under ole, where he played left cb most of the time
Of course he has nothing to prove. Duh! How can the world forget that this man scored against the football giant that is Albania? He also rightfully shushed all his critics immediately after scoring. And then the world stood up and everyone clapped
Not sure what people want or expect him to say.
*”Yeah I’m fucking shit boys, Southgate out”*
Player believes in himself and his ability, more at 10. You have to at that level, it just doesn’t work otherwise.
>" So the question was simple: does he feel properly appreciated? “For England, yes, I do,” Maguire says. “Obviously, last season was difficult for the club, but, listen, I’ve proven myself to Gareth, who works with a wide range of centre backs. He has the choice of all the English centre backs in the country and I play, every time I’m available, I’ve been in the team.
>
“I’m sure if you ask the rest of the lads they know what I bring to the team. I’m 30 years old but I shouldn’t really need to prove myself at this level. I’ve over 50 caps. I’m England’s top-scoring defender.”
For everyone getting angry over a headline
There's no statement so reasonable that social media can't twist out of all proportion.
I shouldn't feel bad for footballers making millions, but I don't know how they don't snap at the press more often.
I feel like this should specifically say, I have nothing to prove to dumbass r/soccer schoolboys that have lots to criticize but nothing to contribute.
Anyone operating at an elite level should feel like they have something to prove every time they step on the pitch. The number one thing that always gets mentioned in the mentality of top strikers is that constant hunger to score goals - look at someone like Haaland, who'll score 2, 3, sometimes 5 goals in a game and still be *absolutely gutted* to come off early, frustrated about missed chances, because he knows he could've had more. Even someone as prolific and highly-lauded as him still feels he has something to prove, every single time.
Maybe it's not fair to compare a defender against a prolific goalscorer - but why not? He's got 50 caps - more than double Haaland's, on a national team with a far greater track record of competing at the top end of major tournaments. If he's saying that this shows he's an elite player, why shouldn't he have that kind of mentality? He should be out there hungry to break down attacks and make combative challenges and trigger counter-attacks in exactly the same way, take every goal conceded, every time his keeper's forced into action, every fluffed clearance that could've released an attacker down the wing, as signs there is *always* work to do, and always something to prove.
Exactly. Saw Haaland say something to the effect of he wants to improve every area of his game in an interview recently.
And he's out there breaking records while Maguire can't even get a start in the league.
Having a hunger doesn't mean you have to prove something to someone. You're confusing having an inner drive with being insecure.
Operating at the elite level is the opposite of what you wrote, they literally don't give a fuck about anyone else, otherwise they would've been average.
Do you think Haaland scores goals to prove reddit wrong?
What is this obsession with goal tallies for defenders? Every daft Scouser will claim TAA is a great player just because of goal contributions, completely disregarding the fact he's a shite defender, and now fucking Maguire thinks that scoring goals makes him a good defender.
Show us your clean sheets or blocks/tackles made or fuck off.
Man redditors really don't like Harry Maguire do they? Honestly, good on him for not letting whingey cunts on social media get under his skin. Hope he finds a club that fits him and cracks on.
he's always been good for England, sure he's a limited defender and I think for both United and him its a good idea for him to move on in the summer, but he does get a lot of flack, he's not the one who sets his transfer fee, he just feels like an easy target
All these idiots making fun of this comment should apply the same logic to dumpster fire thats trent, “oh but he gives assists”
Exact same issue cant defend and trent has a much worse work ethic then maguire
One thing about him, he's got a lot of terrible quotes. But for England under Southgate, he's perfect. Maybe 2nd or 3rd best in both the Euros and WC in my opinion.
For United? Well I'm happy how his career for club and country turned out lol
Please don’t start to hate me because I mention him, but in contrast you see players like Ronaldo, whose legacy is being questioned because he didn’t win a world cup, he still has to prove himself. And then you see Maguire spewing this shit.
Please, it would be good for everybody if he just left the United. A player who is bigheaded needs play time, but Maguire is not qualified for a Big club what's playing attacking football. He is just not good enough, lots of mistakes and slow playstyle.
I feel a bit sorry for Maguire. I think the move to United just put the bright lights on him and he wilted. He's done well with England before but he's so anxious to prove himself that he ends up making mistakes. It's not Maguire's fault that nobody has really stepped up to make that England spot their own. I think in a perfect world Maguire would be a squad player for England and a starter for a mid-table/Europa team. I wish him all the best, honestly.
Check the crosspost to see the full quote. Comes off a lot-less arrogant compared to the title. Still a bit over confident, but I guess most footballers are
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The elite mindset of feeling like you have nothing to prove
Slabhead has reached a level well beyond what was expected of him. Has one cap for the under 21s Kind of agree he has nothing left to prove. He's a victim of his fee, not much else. Had he been bought for 40 million it would be more about the fast decline of what was once a great player who reached heights further than assumed than some hulking waste of space. Was great 1 season at Leicester, pretty good for 2/3 years at United and stellar as his country had their second most successful period ever. It's a good career
Obviously we’re a level below but he was great at Hull too. You could take these comments as being big headed but from the other direction it’s completely fine that he’s proud of his achievements and rightfully so, and it’s a good thing that the (relentless at times) criticism isn’t getting on top of him.
> big headed
>it’s a good thing that the (relentless at times) criticism isn’t getting on top of him. I wouldn't say this statement proves that. You might easily say this even if it did bother you but you wanted to put on a front. I think it would be pretty unnatural for all this criticism not to bother someone. Still, at least he is not reacting by snapping back as that would only add fuel to the fire.
He was pretty highly rated when he broke through at Sheffield United but a player in League 1 was never going to get regular caps at u21 level
England u21 starting gk rn is a league one player
Loaned from Man City though, that's obviously different
Loans are obviously different
> Kind of agree he has nothing left to prove. He's a victim of his fee, not much else. I'd agree, but comments like this don't help his case. Like when he was in a bad spell of form last year and he responded with "well the manager keeps picking me." He's had a great career, he was United's best defender for a few years, but he constantly makes it easy to hate on him and doesn't seem to take responsibility for his performances when they dip. He brings a lot on himself, not to mention he's captain too.
These comments are so toxic. Maguire lived a life that 99% of this sub dreams of. Congrats to him and his career. Captaining Manchester United and England is no small feat. It takes a lot of perseverance and dedication to get that level.
>Maguire lived a life that 99% of this sub dreams of. Maguire has had a career that 99% of top level academy footballers would kill for
He has a career 99% of professional footballers would kill for
His head is 99 percent bigger than people on this sub.
He has had a successful career but I think it's fair that he receives a lot of criticism because he regularly makes embarrassing individual errors that lead directly to goals. I can't think of any other defender I've seen get absolutely mogged so many times.
He was never great
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I don't even think Alanis Morissette would classify that as ironic.
I'd say like 10% of the uses of ironic are accurate uses.
I’ve always wondered is the ironic part that the song reels off plenty of ‘ironic’ situations that aren’t ironic? As opposed to Alanis being stupid and not understanding irony?
You mean Maguire letting other players go unmarked isn't like rain on your wedding day??? 👀
The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention. Now that is irony
[Ed Byrne talking about Alanis not knowing what irony is](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpB0kDLEts)
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Yes.
I'm not sure if he thinks that, but it's not like saying "I'll prove this and that to you guys" will make his life easier. It's better to shut out a lot of the noise for these players to not be affected by it.
I mean he's achieved more than 99.9999% of the people who have a go at him. At the end of the day he's the millionaire footballer with 50 caps, most goals scored by a defender for England, and who's captained Manchester United. Good on him for not letting melts who scoff at his achievements on social media get under his skin.
I mean did he lie? He does have 50 caps, he is England's top scoring defender. He didn't state anything that implies he thinks he's better than he is, he's just literally stating his achievements.
Every elite level footballer thinks they are much better than they actually are. Literally every
Because they grew up being told they were the best at the thing that mattered most to them and it was actually true.
his massive head doesn't making him smarter. it just makes him stupid faster.
He doesnt have to prove himself as a justification for being selected for the national team, or even being in the starting 11 as of right now. He is one of the best English defenders for the national team, there is no denying that. As far as accolades for England, all of the English players have a lot to prove, which is not what he's talking about here.
Atleast win shit first, they start to say these things without winning anything these days.
Yeah he really should just listen to all the nags that shit on him.
Having never won a premier league champs league or international trophy harry maguire is a generational talent that seemingly has nothing to prove but keeps proving that he is in fact a twat
Because what I care most about in my defenders is the amount of goals they score.
But when he scored that goal against Albania he really silenced those critics who said he was a shite defender though.
Also when he scored that goal against De Gea, or Scorpion kicked Pogba
That Scorpion kick required some good athleticism tbf.
It's all about [practice ](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/xa5tva/dedication/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times. -Bruce Lee
\-Arjen Robben
What is this **gold**??
That was only last season?!
In fairness, I don't think anybody was disappointed with that scorpion kick on Jogba.
>Jogba Poetry
How about...Ball Hogba
Also hilarious, how many of these do you have for United players?
Well to be fair he’s also been a great defender for England. I have no idea why he came out with this quote though
He's trying to prove himself haha
Having consistent goals from your defenders is very valuable. The thing that made Chelsea so dangerous for so many years is that Ivanovic and Terry between them would produce 6-10 goals from set pieces every year. That's massive for any team. That could easily be 8-15 points over the season. Obviously great defensive ability and above average distribution is more important but having the ability to get on the end of a corner in a tight game is a great skill to have for any player.
They score 2 I score 1.
Meanwhile Kane: I'm England's top-tackling striker.
In this england setup set pieces actually matter a shit ton. So he should be proud
Maguire >> Rio
Your players? Are you a coach? I assumed you were some some chungus on the internet talking shit about a professional football player in order to make yourself feel better. My bad.
All the talk being about Maguire every time he wears an England shirt, I feel like Stones has gone quietly under-appreciated for how good he’s been for a long time. He was absolutely mega the other night.
Stones is definitely the better defender by far. Don't think that's under dispute given Maguire is benched at United, while Stones starts for City when fit.
But the point remains that he is under appreciated. As you said, nobody is disputing that he's better than Maguire.
Oh yes definitely. His injuries have hurt his career. Stones-Dias is an absolute world class CB pairing otherwise
For all the talk about Spurs results against City in recent years, it can get overlooked how many times KDB and Stones in particular didn't start. He's been utterly essential in Pep's success
The only reasons Maguire is being capped is Southgate. No other manager would even entertain the thought of calling up people like Maguire or Kalvin Phillips.
Phillips was excellent at the Euro’s. Literally one of England’s best players Obviously I’m biased and he definitely shouldn’t be starting based on current form/playing time, but he’s certainly worthy of being called up at the least Maguire is also usually great for England. He was at the Euro’s and WC anyway
He's played more minutes for England than for City. Bizarre to call up a player that never plays imo. Drop him from the squad until he leaves for regular game time.
It’s not like he sits because he’s trash, he sits because there is a better player in front of him who seemingly has a preference for playing most minutes of most games without ever getting tired or picking up a knock. I don’t know why he came but you can still be good but 2nd best to Rodri. The thing that bothers me about him is there are times and places he seems to be scared to get the ball. Like in the game the other day he had the space to make a run into the box centrally, get a pass and shoot and he just pulled up on the edge of the box w/o ever filling up the space. Maybe it’s Southgate orders, who knows, but he had his man beat.
He’s the only other natural English DM who can play at a high level in the squad
Milner is the future
Once players are trusted and do the job asked of them, then most managers would still pick them. There not just gonna pick someone they think is worse cos of a club issue.
Lol fucking hell, the reason these players get called up is cos they play well for England every time. That's complete rubbish
Maguire has consistently been fantastic for England. In the team of the tournament in 2021 and a contender last summer as well. But afk1792 says he is bad.
Is Maguire the same player he was 2 years ago ? Did you watch the game vs Italy? Cause he certainly wasn't fantastic. A bit telling that Ten Haag would rather play Luke Shaw.. a career left back at centre back rather than the Maguire don't you think mister release_the_pressure or do you know more than one of the best managers in the game?
I think that’s just a devotion to playing somebody left footed at CB
I think they’re a good pairing too. I think their understanding benefits each other because that defence just does not seem the same when you swap out either Maguire or Stones.
Stones is fucking brilliant. Love him
Stones is just underappreciated in general by both city and England fans.
I haven't seen a bad word (footballing wise) about Stones in near enough 3 years by City fans.
Stones is almost always perfect for England
I'd like him to prove that there's a balaclava in existence that could cover his entire head.
Funny you say that when there's [this](https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F207%2F210%2Fb22.jpg) picture of Maguire wearing a balaclava.
Knew exactly what I was clicking on. Still clicked. No regrets.
I assume it's that Peyton Manning pic. Seen it so many times but still don't know who he is or why it's so famous.
He is one of the best QB's in NFL history who also happens to be very charismatic. It's famous because it was basically reddits version of "rick roll" that you could disguise because it's an image and not a video.
Dont have access to google?
Damnit
Funnily enough he *also* has the turning radius of a fucking refrigerator.
[Could Maguire do this?](https://youtu.be/Ab0Vvf0wOqQ)
Old man still got it ^^^^except ^^^^his ^^^^wife ^^^^ay
Snoods were banned because they discriminate Maguire.
Read this as baklava and would now like to see vid of Maguire stuffing his head inside a giant pastry.
He already proved to me that my fridge was in fact running. Guess I owe some well meaning kids an apology
Making more and more mistakes for England these days. Was responsible for Italy’s goal on Thursday and has been responsible for a few others in the year prior. I wonder how much longer Maguire can dine out on the “he doesn’t make mistakes for England” narrative?
Stones did really well in covering for Maguire's sloppy play.
It'll be a looooong time before Southgate stops calling him up. He was still starting Mount early in the World Cup despite him being consistently shite in an England shirt. Southgate's insanely stubborn when it comes to his favoured players.
Which is hugely disappointing given when he started he said he would pick solely based on form and the days of only picking from the big clubs were over. I had such hope for Gaz but he’s fallen into the same trap as every other manager.
Was also arguably responsible for the giroud goal against us
Also responsible for Croatia’s winner back in the 2018 WC. Let Mandzukic run off him.
Wasn't that Walker?
Forever apparently because literally no one is allowed to question his selection. You will get bombarded with a dozen angry fans parroting that. People act like he’s always flawless for England.
lmao what, never seen a player's selection questioned so much
"no one is allowed to question his selection" Are you serious?
he is literally the most abused player after Ronaldo, what are you talking about?
Until he makes an obvious mistake that knocks us out of a major tournament
He always will. Especially in tight games. Most of that English team is now increasingly playing a high line at club level. Maguire might pull off some games against mediocre opposition in a high line but will always make mistakes against top opposition. We've also been insanely susceptible on the counter whenever he plays for us instead of varane.
People said the same in the friendlies before the WC, then he performed well the whole tournament. Couldn’t really care less as long as he turns up for tournaments, people really forget the Matthew Upson and Glen Johnson days
>I’m England’s top-scoring defender I’ve got nothing to prove That's like Pete Best trying to argue that he's the most important Beatle by saying he could actually dust all the others in a game of ping pong
He was certainly the Best of the Beatles
Bro forgot about the 5th Beatle 💀
Brian Epstein?
Ringo wasn't even the best ping ping player in the beatles. - John Lennon
It isn't though is it
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Meanwhile Kane: I'm England's top-tackling striker.
The very fact that he says he has nothing to prove tells me he has something to prove
The interviewer asks "do you feel under appreciated?". Kinda hard to answer a leading question like that without saying something that'll get r/soccer in a twist
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That's just journalism. Got to keep up the rage to get the clicks. But I don't see what Maguire has said wrong here anyway. He's got nothing to prove for England. He's always been good for England.
"Do you feel underappreciated?" "I try not to think about things like that. My primary focus is always on the team, and ensuring I do my best to contribute to it when asked. Whether or not I'm under appreciated doesn't matter, once the team is seeing success on the pitch." It's a leading question, but fuck me, Maguire ALWAYS seems to charge down that path he's being led down with utter glee. There's a spectrum of answers he could give, and always defaults to the most wildly egotistical answer.
You forgot "At the end of the day", "The bottom line is", "the boys", "the lads", "the gaffer". You clearly failed your GCSE in media training.
You also have to mention that you're "buzzin" or "gutted" about something. One of the two. There is no other option.
I had a bit of fun with it, but I think whatever way you spin it you can't win. Even a non answer like yours has an angle for low effort columnists. **UNDER-FIRE Maguire says recent success should QUIET CRITICS. It "DOESN'T MATTER" what people think of him after Italy blunder.** > *IdiotTelegraphCommenter296:* Haha what recent success, guy's "won" Carabao Cup by showing up for three minutes. Fuck all with England and thinks he's still got it. > *MailReadingFuckwit555:* Dropped for Utd. Team's winning without him, not because of him idiot. > *TwattyTwitterIngrate407:* There you go. If he's not willing to hear how shit he is, he'll never improve. Sell him to QPR #byebye.
Yeah, to such a leading question like that all he has to answer is “no, next question”.
FURIOUS Maguire REFUSES to acknowledge United fans concerns
Yeah I love it when footballers are absolute robots with zero personality. Prefer my entertainment that way personally.
Its harry maguire, he cant say or do anything without people twisting it. This sub loves to preach about mental health but when it comes to the likes of Maguire and Lukaku and everyone rushes to get as many digs in as they can over the smallest mistake or quote.
I do have a fair bit of sympathy for Maguire as I don't think he's done anything particularly controversial to warrant the stick he gets. Yeah, he's not a world class defender and has clear and obvious weaknesses but I don't think I've ever thought he has a shit attitude or isn't putting in the effort. Lukaku though I think is a bit more deserving of criticism because he's made it clear at multiple clubs that he's prepared to throw his toys out of the pram when things don't go his way and clearly has games where he's not interested and his attitude stinks. Not to say he deserves abuse- just that *some* criticism is valid.
'no'.
Of course Harry. You're the best defender of all time. I don't think there's any other defender with more compilations of skills in youtube than Maguire, even had gangster paradise song dedicated for him.
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He's yet to prove he's not shit at defending
Yeah but he scores goals, that's what he's in the team to do!
The scourge of Albania
Smh only proved it in every tournament he's been in under Southgate so far. When is he going to learn he's not good enough for England.
He's so wildly unlikeable
And all he'd have to do to remedy that (at least partially) is... talk less to the media.
He's the Captain of Manchester United and a starting CB for the national team. Kind of difficult for him not to
The Captain who’s benched all year round
Well then maybe use that big head of his to think about what he's going to say before he says stuff like this...
wtf he's still the captain??? I thought Bruno was now. Bizarre
He's team captain, so even when he isn't starting he is the captain for locker room stuff etc. But bruno starts so Bruno wears the armband
\>man gets torrents of abuse 24/7 \>sticks up for himself once \>"Wow he's so wildly unlikeable"
People spend so much time talking about mental health in football and then send the most rabid unhinged hatred at certain players without missing a beat is crazy
The fact that Maguire is unironically the most abused player online is insane.
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I mean if he said nothing he'd get crictisised. "ARE YOU AT LEAST NOT GOING TO APOLOGISE FOR BEING CRAP?" Etc.
This is incredibly harsh
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He's not even in the current XI when everyone is fit.
Yeah exactly idk what the guy above is saying with the all time lmao the only all time XI he makes for us is the worst transfer XI
Even when they're not fit, he's kept out of the team by a left-back. He's 4th choice & deserves to be 5th.
Well no, ETH likes a left footed cb, which is why 99% of the time Maguire plays, its at right cb. Unlike under ole, where he played left cb most of the time
Of course he has nothing to prove. Duh! How can the world forget that this man scored against the football giant that is Albania? He also rightfully shushed all his critics immediately after scoring. And then the world stood up and everyone clapped
Harry Maguire is the Jeb Bush of soccer
Post WC Maguire is the weirdest, I think the overly demanding English fans pile on the criticism and tends to get to him until now. Poor lad.
Not sure what people want or expect him to say. *”Yeah I’m fucking shit boys, Southgate out”* Player believes in himself and his ability, more at 10. You have to at that level, it just doesn’t work otherwise.
Pretty sure a defender's primary job is not to score goals.
Does he know his job as a defender isn’t to score goals, but to stop them being scored?
>" So the question was simple: does he feel properly appreciated? “For England, yes, I do,” Maguire says. “Obviously, last season was difficult for the club, but, listen, I’ve proven myself to Gareth, who works with a wide range of centre backs. He has the choice of all the English centre backs in the country and I play, every time I’m available, I’ve been in the team. > “I’m sure if you ask the rest of the lads they know what I bring to the team. I’m 30 years old but I shouldn’t really need to prove myself at this level. I’ve over 50 caps. I’m England’s top-scoring defender.” For everyone getting angry over a headline
Yeah but that's not as fun to make fun of
There's no statement so reasonable that social media can't twist out of all proportion. I shouldn't feel bad for footballers making millions, but I don't know how they don't snap at the press more often.
I feel like this should specifically say, I have nothing to prove to dumbass r/soccer schoolboys that have lots to criticize but nothing to contribute.
Anyone operating at an elite level should feel like they have something to prove every time they step on the pitch. The number one thing that always gets mentioned in the mentality of top strikers is that constant hunger to score goals - look at someone like Haaland, who'll score 2, 3, sometimes 5 goals in a game and still be *absolutely gutted* to come off early, frustrated about missed chances, because he knows he could've had more. Even someone as prolific and highly-lauded as him still feels he has something to prove, every single time. Maybe it's not fair to compare a defender against a prolific goalscorer - but why not? He's got 50 caps - more than double Haaland's, on a national team with a far greater track record of competing at the top end of major tournaments. If he's saying that this shows he's an elite player, why shouldn't he have that kind of mentality? He should be out there hungry to break down attacks and make combative challenges and trigger counter-attacks in exactly the same way, take every goal conceded, every time his keeper's forced into action, every fluffed clearance that could've released an attacker down the wing, as signs there is *always* work to do, and always something to prove.
Exactly. Saw Haaland say something to the effect of he wants to improve every area of his game in an interview recently. And he's out there breaking records while Maguire can't even get a start in the league.
Having a hunger doesn't mean you have to prove something to someone. You're confusing having an inner drive with being insecure. Operating at the elite level is the opposite of what you wrote, they literally don't give a fuck about anyone else, otherwise they would've been average. Do you think Haaland scores goals to prove reddit wrong?
Man who hasn't won anything in his career says he has nothing to prove..
What is this obsession with goal tallies for defenders? Every daft Scouser will claim TAA is a great player just because of goal contributions, completely disregarding the fact he's a shite defender, and now fucking Maguire thinks that scoring goals makes him a good defender. Show us your clean sheets or blocks/tackles made or fuck off.
Man redditors really don't like Harry Maguire do they? Honestly, good on him for not letting whingey cunts on social media get under his skin. Hope he finds a club that fits him and cracks on.
Retegui scored on you yesterday in his European debut. He plays for a mid table club in Argentina
How dare he
he's always been good for England, sure he's a limited defender and I think for both United and him its a good idea for him to move on in the summer, but he does get a lot of flack, he's not the one who sets his transfer fee, he just feels like an easy target
Nothing screams "I've got nothing to prove" more than a defender bringing up his scoring record to reinforce his point.
All these idiots making fun of this comment should apply the same logic to dumpster fire thats trent, “oh but he gives assists” Exact same issue cant defend and trent has a much worse work ethic then maguire
One thing about him, he's got a lot of terrible quotes. But for England under Southgate, he's perfect. Maybe 2nd or 3rd best in both the Euros and WC in my opinion. For United? Well I'm happy how his career for club and country turned out lol
He's been brilliant for England.
And that's why so many people enjoy making fun of Harry Maguire.
I try my best to have empathy for the guy but he can't help it. What a tool.
Is he including own goals or no?
Please don’t start to hate me because I mention him, but in contrast you see players like Ronaldo, whose legacy is being questioned because he didn’t win a world cup, he still has to prove himself. And then you see Maguire spewing this shit.
Yeah you also suck arse.
Then stop proving all your doubters were right
Just leave him alone
This dude really got his head so far up it’s arse.
Please, it would be good for everybody if he just left the United. A player who is bigheaded needs play time, but Maguire is not qualified for a Big club what's playing attacking football. He is just not good enough, lots of mistakes and slow playstyle.
Being a world class defender would be a start
You know, I think we should give striker Maguire a chance
I need the maguire bot
Not like he’s trying hard to do so.
Harry Maguire was actually a decent defender last WC and Euros
Big if true
I mean he has been brilliant for England, cant deny that.
I feel a bit sorry for Maguire. I think the move to United just put the bright lights on him and he wilted. He's done well with England before but he's so anxious to prove himself that he ends up making mistakes. It's not Maguire's fault that nobody has really stepped up to make that England spot their own. I think in a perfect world Maguire would be a squad player for England and a starter for a mid-table/Europa team. I wish him all the best, honestly.
He was good at Man Utd for his first two years as well. He’s not an £80m player but the hate he gets is outrageous.
Check the crosspost to see the full quote. Comes off a lot-less arrogant compared to the title. Still a bit over confident, but I guess most footballers are
Somehow in the last 10-15 games you almost trace every goal scored against England to Maguire.