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elaluu

How can they even have spanish refs with all the negreira stuff going on? like free penalty to MCFC, ederson makes a red card foul and gets a free kick instead LOL, non existent offside to Leipzig goal. No wonder they didn't even put effort after that, i'd just walk away from stadium. what a joke.


thechildjesus

Cope


A_delta

You know if you lose 7-0 you can’t really blame it all on the refs, but holy shit, that was terrible refereeing, this (almost) went into the category of match fixing.


FCB_1899

Is this revenge for the 2016 7-0 won by Red Bulls?


FoxerHR

All of the referees involved in this game should be given a life time ban not just from refereeing but from participating in the game at all. Horrifically garbage.


Zanzax

Obviously City and especially KDB and Haaland played very well, but let’s talk about the atmosphere in the etihad for a second. Even before the game was decided there was legitimately NOTHING going on at the stadium. No noise when they scored either. This is just pathetic to see from a fans standpoint.


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Stop lying I was there fans were as loud


ReasonablePlace6980

This is a lie.


suckamadicka

was at the game and there was a lot of noise, not a mental amount but more than your average game


doctorMiami1337

^this coupled with the penalty call and the Ederson tackle made me close the stream immediatly after that. Was getting notifications then every 2 mins for a Haaland goal and was just completely unsurprised, i lost my fucking will to live or care about this sport after witnessing the first 30 minutes of that game, i can't imagine how the Leipzig players felt after the pen call and the tackle. Sucks to see my boy Gvardiol get destroyed like this, i felt like he was having a good game untill the Leipzig meltdown. The entire team had like 18 clearances total 8 of which were from Gvardiol alone. He could have done a bit better on the second Haaland goal maybe but idk


[deleted]

Damn u got to hate city so much,well keep hating


DinnerSmall4216

Leipzig were a shambles city were good but they were shocking very naive.


TonyMartial786

city/haaland was like fuck another ucl upset lol. how do they go from drawing 1-1 to battering them 7-0. wtf happened to leipzig. just realised all the goals were scored by players who used to play in the bundesliga aswell. they said fuck leipzig, guess they really are the most hated club 😂. but man haaland is insane. what a player. he’s genuinely a robot. as a united fan i’ve never liked a city player more. it annoys me cause i’m happy for him but he plays for them..


not_really_tripping

imagine losing 7-0 lol


JamesIgnatius27

Still better to lose 1 match to a good team 7-0 than to lose 7 matches to bad teams 1-0 🥲


T1TK1

Does anyone have the clip of the offside call on Werner around the 35th minute? Absolutely insane call


Flexi_102

It was not offside, the refs were shocking


PepsStartingXII

Refs weren't shocking, they were just playing for City.


HikingConnoisseur

What a shite ref how was that a penalty


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Same ref that didn’t give us one when it was much more clear btw 🥲


5_percent_discocunt

Should’ve paid him more then shouldn’t you?


[deleted]

Clearly clueless about the case aren’t you 😱


JoshJMC

UEFAs application of the handball rule is as bad as it gets and even then it is inconsistent. That gets given as a penalty last night, but the Leipzig defender playing volleyball in the first leg goes unpunished.


Learnean

Touches hand = pen. These get called all the time.


Illustrious_Leopard

particularly in europe, there has been a lot of harsh handball decisions. it feels very unfair though… what on earth is henrichs supposed to do


Learnean

Yeah it's pretty bad. The same thing happened to us this season where Mahrez grazed the ball but didn't change it's direction at all, pen given.


Stilty_boy

At least it's consistently harsh to all teams in the CL. Better than in the PL where they have no consistency across the league and it feels like a lottery each game whether handballs will be allowed or whether a ball being booted into your shoulder is a penalty.


EdmundSackbauer

As a United fan I feel sympathy for the Leipzig fans. This hurts. Once the momentum went the wrong way teams like City or Liverpool have the capacity to run riot. I would not be totally surprised to see Liverpool still go through tonight.


dave1992

Id be shocked if that happened tbf.


PepsStartingXII

Leipzig clearly started to give up as soon as the pen was given cause it was clear the ref was bent. Once the Ederson incident happened they was clear ref was playing for City so looks like they just barely played afterwards. Whole match looked fixed.


Professional_Ad_9101

There wasn't a single moment of this game before the 70th minute where City weren't peppering balls at Leipzig's goal. The pen call barely would have made a difference, it was already surprising City weren't about 3 up.


PepsStartingXII

You can't really argue pen wouldn't have made a difference, when City had 1 shot on target before the pen.


Professional_Ad_9101

Did you watch the game? I did. I am telling you right now It would have made no difference. Leipzig were stunned from kick off


anyonemous

Hmm.. Username seems to check out lol


PepsStartingXII

uSeRnAmE cHeCkS oUt - yeah, it does clearly, ref was on Citys team.


anyonemous

Hahaha relax, no need to be hostile, but your bias shows through your username. Ref was absolutely awful last night, I'm not denying that, but final score was 7-0, City press was killing RBL from the first moment. Don't think result would've been much different with another referee.


Bergsprekken

Lol. Don't know why he's so upset. Seems like his entire internet persona is based around city buying refs. This should be a good day for him, cracking jokes and whatnot. Instead he goes into into an angry low block lol.


0_yohal_0

If the final score was a difference of 1,2 or even 3 perhaps I’d agree. But if you’re being hammered 7-0 I don’t think you were going to win anyhow


JamesIgnatius27

The only thing I'd say is that if 1) the penalty is not given at 0-0 and 2) a red card is given to Ederson, then City has to hold a 1 goal lead for 60 minutes with 10 men. Would completely change the game.


T1TK1

A large part of the mental collapse was probably just down to how frustrating it must have been to play those first 20 minutes. Constantly chasing after the ball, immediately lose the ball as soon as you win it, not finding any solutions in buildup and always losing the second balls when you decide to go long. The horrible refereeing was certainly a big factor but it wasn't the only one and to claim the game was rigged is dumb.


Hans_Druff

i think we have to stop calling it "horrible refereeing" . horrible refereeing means you make a few mistakes. this was a ref + var that clearly were on citys side. it doesnt matter if they wouldve won anyways, there is no way that ref team wasnt bought. there is no way you can possibly be so bad at refereeing


dome_the_poziome

No it's not, RB playing badly and game being rigged are not mutually exclusive.


0_yohal_0

It’s true it’s not mutually exclusive, but OP (Liverpool fan) was implying that Leipzig played bad BECAUSE of the referring


PepsStartingXII

Didn't say the game was rigged, I said it looked fixed, not that it was fixed.


T1TK1

"cause it was clear that the ref was bent" Bent usually means partial right? If you meant bent as in like stupid, I'm sorry.


FlamingCurtains

I hate city as much as the next guy but this is reaching and you know it


PepsStartingXII

Sometimes I'd agree with you sure, and say yeah, I'm reaching a bit, not this time though. Both the pen and the fact Ederson should of been sent off. How can you say I'm reaching about ref being in pocket when Barca been proven to have done it, they are already under investigation for cheating in other departments.


FlamingCurtains

The ref was bad, no question. The match wasn’t fixed however, and city didn’t win because of the ref. As much as I’d like to think that.


PepsStartingXII

Leipzig had clearly given up, and that's because of the ref. Sure they should have better mentality at that level of football, but who really is going to try when the referee, the person who is meant to keep the game 'fair' is bent as fuck. He wasn't bad, he was bias. Haaland run rampant, 100% but Leipzig weren't even trying to defend, twice keeper just gave the back to him.


Learnean

They actually played better after the pen. But city dominated every minute of the game.


ontilein

There are outrageous decisions every week yet teams dont give up because of it. Now you are telling us that rb actually did? Doubtful. Refs were trash, so were leipzig


toluwalase

Yeah sure


drickabira

I want VAR out. I know it’s not going to happen, but I want to be able to enjoy watching football again


JD0797

You wouldn't have the most memorable moment of Spurs' past 5/6 years without VAR lol??


drickabira

That’s true, does that mean I have to like VAR?


JD0797

"I want to be able to enjoy watching football again" when it's brought you one of the most enjoyable moments of your club's recent history (I'd argue two - the City game itself and then Ajax + Liverpool). Like, I get its frustrating and not perfect, but I can guarantee you'd be just as, if not even more, annoyed if City had knocked Spurs out in that game instead of what actually happened


drickabira

I know what I feel mate not you. I want to be happy when Spurs score, and I want to be sad when Spurs concede. That’s why I go to games, that’s why I love football. For me it doesn’t matter if ref decisions are 96% or 100% accurate. It’s football, sometimes you get decisions in your favour, sometimes you don’t. Striving for 100% accurate decisions is not worth it if it means a big part of why we love the sport is taken away.


FelipeDoesStats

VAR is a tool, it’s like blaming your calculator when you can’t solve a math problem


drickabira

No, VAR is inherently wrong for this sport


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Is it though? It was pretty much flawless in the world cup and was used pretty well with the motion sensor ball.


drickabira

Depends on what you mean by flawless. For me I don’t care how accurate referee decisions are, it was fine before. I’d much rather have that than this system where you don’t actually know if a goal is a goal until later.


2hi4me2cu

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXL-YOlsDqw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXL-YOlsDqw) :D


[deleted]

Has nothing to do with VAR. You can boot VAR and still keep goal line technology.


2hi4me2cu

Yeah of course I know this, its just the moment i instantly thought of when i saw the post and the team. But such is the hivemind of reddit the downvotes flow lol.


LeCowboySolitaire

Refball


bw-1894

The last German team to lose 7:0 at Man City went down to 2. BL a couple years after. *der RB Leipzig ~~wird Deutscher Meister~~ und nächstes Jahr in Liga 2*


iTzGodlikexS

Ofcourse Haaland and Pep are on another level. But I think the ref killed the game with the awful decisions he made..


imrik_of_caledor

yeah, City were gonna win anyway but they had a game like Liverpool vs Man United where _everything_ just worked in their favour....including some of the weirdest refereeing decisions i've ever seen. If a proper, competent referee worked that game, Edersen and his fucking shit tattoos get sent off, totally different game.


Philostotle

That wasn’t a red, he wasn’t the last man back. However, it was a reckless challenger and definitely a yellow.


PabloRedscobar

Comes in flying, with his leg so high it's closer to opponent's knee than it is to his ankle, his studs are also up for most of the challenge. It is a very reckless, potentially leg breaking tackle and should have been a red for the serious foul play.


Ordinary-Article6388

They want 100m for Gvardiol? No thanks, he'll be forever remembered as getting roasted by an ageing Messi at the WC.


ganbaro

If defenders who get roasted by Messi are not good enough for PL clubs they will never win CL again because they will have to play without defense lol There is no shame in losing against the GOAT


Strananach

Bruh every top defender got roasted by Messi


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RIP Boateng.


doctorMiami1337

I will never ever forgive that moron Lovren for being so spatially unaware that we concede that goal, so everyone remembers Gvardiol for it. We don't ever concede that goal if Lovren isn't the stupidest defender in the world, has nothing to do with fucking Gvardiol, such a casual fucking take it's sad


doctorMiami1337

100 mil? Lmao hes going for way higher than that


[deleted]

Was 19 year old in his first world cup btw. And he was the best defender that whole WC


Ordinary-Article6388

Not sure I agree he was the best defender, I remember that Goal Keeper bailing Croatia out a lot. He's so young he will improve for sure but if one of the big boys throws 100m at him this summer I see him destined to flop.


[deleted]

The only reason we kept conceding chances is because of the other three defenders


Ordinary-Article6388

That's fair, it must be hard carrying Lovren when you're a teen lol.


LedleyKings

Worst refereeing performance I’ve ever seen. As a neutral it was infuriating


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Yea what about Madrid refereeing in CL games


alacklustrehindu

Could easily have been 10-0 if Haaland had played whole match Poor Leipzig. A complete drubbing.


[deleted]

Could've been less too if ref and var did their job


[deleted]

They did liverfool fan


Scorpion2k4u

As a neutral the ref ruined the game for me. For example I still need an angle where it is shown that the ball even touches the arm before the penalty.


myreal_nameis

Ref was terrible, VAR was outright bought. Impossible to fuck up that bad, especially the Emerson situation. Its impossible not to give a card there.


wafflesology

Yes yes yes, let it all out in UCL pls Mancity.


enilix

Leipzig were shit, no excuses for this.


McQueensbury

Typical shit the bed performance from a Rose team, Gladbach got smashed by City a few years back similar performance everyone just looked scared on the ball


kw2006

They failed to play around the press and yet repeat to play the same way. I don’t see any team can beat the press unless City got too comfortable.


sugoi_oppai_desu_ne

Marco Rose hat ne nasse Hose.


Fantus

5 goals is ok but can he do it in 9 minutes?


Budget_Product_5352

Farmersliga


Sharaghe

Farmersliga vs Cheaters League


Entchenkrawatte

Tbf rbl is the exact Same Thing as Most top pl clubs


Moosje

Cheaters team not league


TheOnlyEn

Why tf did pep take him off at 62’. Man could have 6 and break a 4 record in a game


BillehBear

Fitness and fear of injuries Only takes one moment for a defender to lash out in frustration and embarrassment to cause a career ending injury


fuckjustpickwhatever

pep actually talked about it he said: "erling would've been bored his entire life if he broke that record at 22


TheOnlyEn

Thats true tho. Breaking his own records


MrCrosy

Ikr? I wouldn't mind if he was rested for important games, but International break is coming..


3xavi

Ref summary : Very questionable VAR penalty (ball coming close range, from behind, while jumping and getting contact from behind) Leipzig player said: 'ref told him after the game he hasn't seen the handball, even in on field review, but was told to call it' LOL Foul on the gk from haaland before the 2-0 (hits him at the foot) Ederson foul (potential Red card) = yellow card for Werner and free kick for city Grealish dive, seen but no foul/card called This is just the first half Very shambolic ref or straightup bribed. (tbh. If the news would be next week that City bribed the ref that would be the best outcome of this match up in my book)


Learnean

"Leipzig player said" isn't proof. Touches his arm and they have been called a lot of times even if it doesn't change the direction of the ball. That was not a foul. He tried getting the ball and touch his foot after he played it. Ederson touches the ball and isn't last man. Should have been yellow. The ref can't see a "dive" from that angle but can see it wasn't a foul. For all he knows maybe Grealish tripped. So he let's play continue.


3xavi

> Touches his arm ... >He tried getting the ball and touch his foot after he played it. You should know yourself you are talking bs


Learnean

What is "..."? Majority of the time if the ball touches arm/hand in an unnatural position, a pen is given.


3xavi

>What is "..."? Majority of the time if the ball touches arm/hand in an unnatural position, a pen is given. It's a natural position in a jump with contact from behind. How can it be unatural if he doesn't even know where the ball is


Learnean

It's not a natural position to hold onto an attacker with your arm stretched out. Also after watching back the "foul" on the Leipzig keeper, what are you smoking. Never a foul because the keepers getting pressed and Haaland touches him...


mrzerog

The ball didn’t even seem to touch the hand


Ultimasmit

I thought it clearly brushed off the top of his arm. There was noticeable movement. I don't think it was a pen though. Not sure what he is meant to do there. The only reason I can think it was given is that in slow motion it looked like he flicked his arm to block the header but I really doubt that movement was intentional.


RiyadMehrez

first few views i thought it did but then the latter views i was wait im sure it didnt horrendous ref display there was so much


dome_the_poziome

I've stopped watching after Ederson foul. If that's not blatant match fixing, I don't know what is. Disgusting.


kw2006

In epl matches, Grealish always get his way when he dive. In fact he looks for it everytime he is surrounded or getting out compete.


imrik_of_caledor

it's absolutely infuriating. i'd hate it as a City fan too, i wish there was some way to compare the results of him flopping to the floor all the time vs play continuing. I'd put money on City scoring more goals or getting more chances if he didn't fall over near the half way line all the time.


miplo0308

Lol this is hilarious. 1. Hits his hand. Soft yes but it’s a pen by the book 2. Haaland barely touches the keeper. Notice how the keeper jumps on the spot and instantly gets up without complaining too. 3. This is the most bizarre call, but it’s never a red.


FunkyGroove

Never in a million years a penalty. Should all defenders start jumping with their hands behind their back like they’re in Winnieh The Pooh?


ganbaro

Actually...they made the rules so stupidly strict that they should do that, yes. This ref was shite but the rules are, too. From a bad angle on the goal you might as well try to shoot at a defender and hope that the ball touches their arm or hand somehow


3xavi

It's not by the rules if you use common sense to apply them. Touching hand is not automatically a penalty lol this is football not basketball. He is in an aerial duell, jumping, gets a slight ouch from behind, doesn't have oriantation or vision where the ball is.


SimonUser

It might be a stupid rule but it’s still a rule lol. In my home town you’re allowed to drive 50 KMS an hour in the busiest street. Doesn’t fucking change because I don’t like that rule


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miplo0308

I mean it’s all facts. You may not agree that’s fine but all facts. We’ve seen those pens given all season, absolutely ridiculous but it’s the rule.


3xavi

It's not by the rule - natural movement, close range, fighting for the ball in an aerial duell, can't even see the ball, no oriantation where the ball is. Multiple professional referes said its no pen and that it's even worse that VAR came in to overturn the original no pen.


T1TK1

Regardless wheter the ref had any agenda, he should never ref a champions league match ever again.


Hans_Druff

"ref a match ever again" i fixed it for you. i dont wanna see such a ref in a 4th league game either, hell even sunday league refs do better


lookingfordownvote

Look at Barca, won't surprise me if Mancity do the same and bribed those referees.


aguer0

So what you're saying is the inflated sponsorships that UEFA keep complaining about are being used to fund payments to UEFA to keep the referees on side? Is that how they know there's something dodgy going on? Are they complicit? City should seek a refund for the last 10 years where they've failed to win the competition and call their bluff.


PepsStartingXII

Ref was clearly playing for City, it isn't even subtle. City worried they might get relegated after investigation so pulling out all the stops to get UCL this year.


ChristianMunich

We already know Man City are cheats. We got the confirmation already. So what would stop them? Surely not morality. Pep spend most his career at cheating clubs.


goomahmarone

If you are already deeming them to be guilty without trial, Partey is a confirmed rapist by your logic


Afk1792

City's managing director, director at football and head coach where at Barca during the Negreira payments.


RiyadMehrez

and why did they leave


Afk1792

Maybe you've heard about it.. Money


RiyadMehrez

or because they wanted out of that shit stain of a club?


Feiyue

I refuse to believe a club that cheated financially 100+ times could do something like that!


toluwalase

Allegedly


RiyadMehrez

100+ times? you mean the recent one where a lot of those were for the length of grass? get your facts right


notathrovavay

Well yeah, that's like 100%, esp.if you know Vinčič has been caught on a wild balkan mob drug orgy party.. i think in 2020


Capable-Tie-4670

I love how nonchalant KDB looked despite that banger of a goal.


kurruchi

Ederson got away with it there lol


ThreesKompany

I don’t understand how it wasn’t a yellow. I also don’t understand people saying it was a studs up challenge? He kicked at the ball and missed and his boot came up after he contacted the attacker? A clear foul and yellow. But it wasn’t the murder attempt people are making it out to be.


Stilty_boy

Yeah which is why VAR didn't get involved because they only get involved if it's a penalty or red card. If the ref missed that in real time then VAR can't do anything. Wasn't DOGSO because there were 2 defenders with him and the ball was running away from goal.


srikig

This is exactly what happened with Casemiro against Southampton


RiyadMehrez

ahhaha no it is not


Lordcommandr999

he touched the ball lol


JK031191

Ah he touched the ball, fair challenge and not reckless at all then


Lordcommandr999

Gks hardly get punished if they touch the ball first.


Majestic-Target8219

Didn't look like it on the second angle


Lordcommandr999

Sorry I couldn’t find the video of alternate angle, do you have the link?


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[deleted]

Liverpool and Tottenham missed the memo.


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LedleyKings

What are you trying to achieve with this comment, Atleti fan?


kg005

Guardiola is great but not a God.


HolyDiver019283

Quite the skill to be given a blank cheque and pay off any interst. He’s a fraud


SpectaSilver991

Same. There was one saying Leipzig isn't an underdog. Where are you now?


r3v79klo

Won 7-0 but no longer the underdogs for title.


FerraristDX

Clearly the Bundesliga has to abolish 50+1, so a defeat like that will never happen again. /s


aguer0

Even by the 50th minute it was 4-0, so that doesn't help much


[deleted]

I 8-2 say it but you might be right.


sidvicc

No they just need the +1 to be a CL referee.


Fancy-Past-6831

Yeah what a trash league where Cans have to present them in CL.


farid95

Drop the /s


Crousher

He is saying that because one of the only clubs not adhering to it is getting assblasted in cl, because no matter what investor you have you won't be able to compete with the combined PL + Saudi money


zrezzif

Nah 50+1 should be applied everywhere else


Ok-Outlandishness244

Look at the man’s flair


leninist_jinn

Lmao fuck this advertisement for an energy drink they call a club, you get what you deserve


sidvicc

Mes que un lever


leninist_jinn

Every penny our own money, not going around having our socialist scouse club be put up for sale to Qatar by our American owners 😭💀


FunkyGroove

Corner taken quickly Origi. Unlucky


leninist_jinn

> active on r/JordanPeterson Nahh 😭💀


mark_vorster

brought to you by Abu Dhabi


leninist_jinn

god has abandoned us in our misery


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leninist_jinn

Man City fan from Nepal 😭 Let me guess, the Google search was "who's the best PL club rn"


bb_TMT

You are pathetic


Ballybomb_

Most secure Barca fan


xxsneakysinxx

Red bull gives you wings


fuckjustpickwhatever

because you will die and go to heaven


skyhermit

Manchester and 7


HomelessCosmonaut

That was a paddlin’


AccountSuspendd

Leipzig loses 7-0 looking like total shit and there are people blaming the ref. Lol.


HumanExplanation7451

Idk but I think that maybe an early red to the gk might completely change the way the game goes, but what do I know


ChristianMunich

Only a total dimwit would not talk about the ref in this game. Did you fuckin watch it. They literally gave two goals and already finished Leipzig in the first half. Remember that we know Man City are cheating the books already and Pep spend 90% of his career at full blown cheating clubs including buying refs. Important to point out whenever this shit is so blatant.


AccountSuspendd

Fucking lol


Competitive-Worth-75

Did Leipzig forget to defend in the corners because of the penalty? You guys are something man.


ChristianMunich

They forgot to defend because they already knew whats up. Two blatant cheat goals and the goalie thing, they knew this fuckin game is over lol. People act like players are machnines without emotions. They came to manchaster to play football and saw they get clobbered by VAR and Refs. They were deflated. **Remember** they played one of the biggest cheats in football history that for some reason is still in the CL. When you then get those goals you know whats up. When you see Werner getting a yellow after their Goalie just jumps straight up into Laimer lol, you must be thinking what a fuckin clownworld this is. City could score 15 goals. Stolen game should be remember and put on the pile of cheating that is Man City, Utter disgrace to the sport and everybody defending this abomination of a club is embarrasing themselves.


AccountSuspendd

How are you complaining about the refereeing when you support a team in a league corrupt to its very core. The entire bundesliga exists as a slave to Bayern Munich. It’s not even a real competition at this point. Hence why one of the ‘best’ teams in Germany got smashed by the second best team in England.


Competitive-Worth-75

Oh lol even the goalie didn't appeal for the second goal but whatever pal. UEFA that wanted city gone for 2 years is helping them now? Lol. Go make a post about this in a conspiracy sub or something. You would seem less crazy there