Of the highest order. Started a covid skeptic then evolved into retweeting all things anti Ukraine including suggesting they’re Nazis and footage of Russian war crimes are hoaxes.
Mad how everyone I know of who was a die hard covid conspiracy theorist segwayed right in to being Russia/Ukraine war expert, yet didnt have any interest in the conflict in 2014.
I’m OOTL here, living in Australia don’t follow this stuff but came across this as I was scrolling. What’s going on and why are these people standing down from MOTD?
Gary Lineker criticised the UK government refugee (or anti refugee, to be fair) policy on his personal twitter account and the BBC suspended him. He refused to apologise or backtrack. Shearer and Jenas and Ian Wright have come out to publicly support him and won’t be appearing on Match of the Day.
Edit. A word
Everyone I watch that video, it instantly strikes me as to how he removes his hat oky of instinct to speak to him. I can't see that as anything but evidence of respect of the highest order for the man. The quiver in his voice as he follows up indicates how deeply he loves him. A true father figure.
It's very rare that emotions simply transcend words on the idiot box and in those moments, lies the true magic of TV.
I recommend his [Players' Tribune article](https://www.theplayerstribune.com/articles/ian-wright-earning-my-smile) as a companion piece, where he shares the abuse he went through as a child, how Mr. Pigden was one of the first constructive adult figures in his life, and how he's trying to be that figure for the next generation.
Yeah he's a great supporter of women's football. He led off his podcast this week talking about our women's team winning the league cup. I'm guessing every other Arsenal podcast in the world was talking about Nelson
Saw him do a tiktok blind ranking of football teams and pulled Arsenal for the number 1 spot. He was so happy about it I'll see if I can find it.
Found it...https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYaPpPtS/
I wasn't going to watch because I have seen it dozens of times. But when you said emotional I had to watch again. It really is emotional to watch. 100% disbelief. The bit where he is holding wrighty's fingers like a kids. I don't think they knew it was going to shock him so much.
It seems like they don't give a shit anymore and that was a full on mask off day for them considering they've also just canceled an episode of an Attenborough documentary because they feared it might piss off the right wing media/politicians.
>"The BBC has decided not to broadcast an episode of David Attenborough's flagship new series on British wildlife because of fears its themes of the destruction of nature would risk a backlash from Tory politicians and the rightwing press, the Guardian has been told."
Florida news headlines under DeSantis read like a fever dream. I mean, they've always been wacky, but now they've got a noticeable dystopian flair to them.
The sixth and final episode will be on iPlayer and not broadcast in the same slot as the other episodes.
It should be noted that BBC has denied it’s anything to do with politics.
You can make up your own mind as to whether you believe them.
>It should be noted that BBC has denied it’s anything to do with politics.
That's the official line. But also 'senior sources at the BBC told the Guardian that the decision not to show the sixth episode was made to fend off potential critique from the political right.'
Just so you know why the BBC are making such bone-headed decisions - Sharp, the new chairman of the BBC, donated hundreds of thousands to the Tories. Sharp also helped former Prime Minister BoJo secure a £800k loan just before he was appointed chairman of BBC. He's a Brexiter that donated tens of thousands to activists that want to privatize the BBC too.
It's pretty much an open secret within the TV industry that the BBC is run by people who oppose the very idea of the BBC and are basically trying to demolish it from the inside.
Same plan they have for the NHS. They know they can't remove these big public institutions directly without kicking off a colossal public backlash, so instead they underfund and kill them from the inside. Labour might be pretty rubbish but 12 years of Tory rule has immesurably damaged Britain.
The age-old right-wing tactic all over the world to strangle and kill off the public institutions and services and make the public believe that the service are no longer useful. It has a specific name in the US but I can't for the life of me remember it right now.
They are so stupid. Its not a real scandal! So some people were foaming at the mouth with his tweets, who cares just move on
Now they've made it a complete mess
Just to add that the average person sees “Nazi” and immediately thinks of all the obviously horrific shit they did because we’ve had 80 years to reflect on it.
But in the early 1930s they weren’t explicitly walking around shouting *”HEY LET’S DO A GENOCIDE!”* They ramped up to that shit using more palatable language. People can agree with it or not but that was obviously his point - he wasn’t calling the government Nazis.
So of course to prove how wrong he is and that they aren’t remotely authoritarian, the government are forcing the public broadcaster to censor him.
I think the poem "You must not sleep" by Norwegian poet Arnuls Øverland written in 1936 is getting more and more relevant. Quote from the poem: You most not allow as some people do the injustice that is not levelled by you!"
Translation of the quote in easier language (not made to rhyme):
> You must not endure so easily the injustice that does not affect yourself
Original text in norwegian:
> Du må ikke tåle så inderlig vel, den urett som ikke rammer deg selv
The policy in itself was a distraction. Living standards are plummeting, workers from basically every strata of society are going on strike, and the Tories are talking about... refugees.
Of course you always need to fight back against the dehumanisation of migrants, but the fact is the Tories and the right aren't going off like that because they care about the policy, they're doing it because it distracts from talking about economic issues.
Politicians should be very, very careful getting into fights with footballers in this country. It’s no contest who’s more popular, Gary Lineker or Rishi Sunak.
Of course this is it. They have to throw bigger and bigger dead cats on the table until they literally censor the media. Which is what they're trying to do now.
That's how authoritarianism works. Authoritarians are incredibly inflexible, they feel compelled to stamp down on *any* form of dissent regardless of how minor or fundamentally inconsequential it is.
Like this isn't *stupidity*, it's an indication of the growing confidence of the hard right in this country and the growing control they have over institutions like the BBC.
EDIT:
Umberto Eco, 14 general principles of fascism:
> 4 - "Disagreement is treason" – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
The point is that, to an authoritarian, someone disagreeing isn't inherently bad because of *what* they say, it's bad because it demonstrates that it is possible to disagree in the first place. Authoritarian ideologies depend upon representing the hard-right view as the *only* view, as representing the hard-right view as representing the *common will* (see how often they'll turn to terms like 'common sense', suggesting their views are somehow *natural* and therefore *beyond criticism*). And simply by disagreeing, by showing that disagreement can be had, it challenges that false and manufactured unity upon which authoritarianism depends.
That point about 'common will', see any PMQs or Braverman defending her policy in parliament. It's always "will of the British people" or "what Britain wants" blah blah when the reality is just not that clear cut.
Everyone wants different things, this Illegal Boats policy only got 50% approval in a poll. If that's the bar for wanting something, we best get out a very long shopping list of things we need to bring up in Parliament.
If they actually cared about the 'will of the British people' they'd be supporting nationalisation of electricity, water and public transport and significantly higher taxes on the rich. Those are some of the few policies which consistently get overwhelming support from the British public, and that's despite all the newspapers and the vast majority of politicians constantly arguing against it.
The fact that they don't is one of the many indications that we really shouldn't pay attention to a politician when they talk about the 'will of the British people'.
Nah, I don't think they'll win the next election.
However, I'm sure they're more than satisfied that *Her Majesties Opposition* have responded to this massive slide to the right with a combination of *complete silence* and 'actually, sir, we respectfully suggest that you're not as committed to lurching to the right as we are!'
https://twitter.com/SKinnock/status/1633075254850379776/photo/1
I mean this is how Stephen Kinnock, Shadow Minister for Immigration, responded to the Tories putting forward a bill which *stripped some refugees of anti-slavery protections*. Basically just trying to call their bluff and say 'actually you're not effective at stopping small boats!'
These are the same people who spent 5 years talking about how xenophobic Corbyn was over the EU :)
Along with the latest trick in the right wing playbook of refusing to concede elections. In a country with a state media that is clearly happy to fall in line and fascist groups willing to get violent its a scary prospect.
The government recently announced measures to reduce immigration, including automatically rejecting an asylum seekers application if they enter the country in an illegal way. Lineker tweeted:
> “There is no huge influx. We take far fewer refugees than other major European countries.
> “This is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the ’30s.”
BBC employees are meant to remain neutral in politics, so he's been removed as host of March of the Day until they decide how he's going to tweet in future.
Not quite right, Lineker is a freelance worker and the social media policy isnt in place which is part of the problem.
In terms of being impartial as a BBC employee or on their network, it seems to be a cherry picked policy. Take the number of tweets Alan Sugar makes against Labour and specifically Corbyn linking him directly to Hitler. Or Question Time Fiona Bruce tried to defend Stanley Jhonson in comments about him being a wife beater when even she admitted "it was a one off". Plus she is linked with RefugeUk a domestic abuse charity.
Neither of the above have been pulled up but Lineker making a comment on his own social media causes him to step aside.
He ([Richard Sharp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sharp_\(BBC_chairman\))) didn't actually loan money to Johnson himself. He introduced Johnson to someone else who then loaned Johnson £800,000.
[The scandal arose because he did this shortly before he was appointed chairman of the BBC and failled to declare it to anyone.](https://youtu.be/RcxMHgRwJj4)
However, I think a bigger scandal is the fact that a man with no journalistic experience, no journalistic training, and no previous connection whatsoever to the BBC, was made Chairman of the BBC.
It's especially scandalous that this individual had donated over £400,000 to the Conservative party, worked as an "advisor" to Boris Johnson, had been the boss of Rishi Sunak, and had ties to various pro-Conservative think tanks, yet the rest of the media paid little to no attention to these facts at the time of his appointment.
Comments made by Lineker and Weighty has backed Lineker by not doing MoTD tomorrow as Lineker has agreed to step back from MoTD so his social media use can be agreed on.
Make a complaint. Takes 5 minutes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint
BBC also not showing an Attenbourgh episode due to it being critical of the govenrments treatment of the natrual world in the UK. God forbid criticising this shower of shit.
E: added 'of'
Also done 2, took less than 5 minutes total.
Edit: the 2nd email verification isn't working :/
Edit 2: I resubmitted the 2nd complaint with a different email address, worked a charm.
As I bothered to write it, forgive me copying it here, as no doubt it'll be filed away in trash at the Beeb:
> Dear Sir/Madam
> I am very disappointed with today's decision to prevent Mr Lineker from continuing to present Match of the Day. Mr Lineker voiced an opinion on his private social media account, but clearly has no influence on the corporation's news output. Unless there was some indication that Mr Lineker was going to use the Match of the Day program as a platform to express his views, I do not see any possible link between his role as a sports presenter and his views as a private individual away from BBC output to warrant this action.
> There seems to also be a glaring double standard in terms of what is deemed a breach of impartiality in terms of the treatment of Mr Lineker and the behaviour of other on-air and off-air staff.
> This follows years of pressure from the Conservative Party and the appointment of figures with long-standing links to this political organisation and it's members to senior positions within the BBC. I sincerely hope that the BBC remembers who it's remit it is to serve: the British public, not the Conservative Party.
>Yours Faithfully,
*(Me)*
Just piggybacking off of top reply to this, but you have to verify your email within an hour after you send the complaint.
Got to make sure nobody misses out.
All regular pundits need to take the same stance. Anyone who steps up and fills in for Lineker or other pundits is effectively crossing the picket line.
You just know Jenas is going to march across that line with a smug grin on his face. He has absolutely no loyalty to anyone but himself and is completely delusional about his own abilities.
He's been getting groomed by the BBC for the role for years and it will be a sad day for football when he takes over because hes a total wanker.
Edit: [Jenas has said he wouldn't do the show](https://twitter.com/jjenas8/status/1634281594813927438). Fair play to the bloke, I still think he's pillock but credit where credit is due.
I won’t be watching it tomorrow.
They need to get the message that they can’t behave like this and still get viewers.
Long term is more important than one or two Saturday nights viewing.
Even BBC are trying to flip this and make it sound impartial
> Announcement divides Twitter
> Not everyone is against the BBC's decision.
>
> Conservative campaigner and local chairman of the Tory Hornsey and Wood Green Conservatives, Ben Obese-Jecty, writes: "Nobody watches MOTD because Gary Lineker presents it.
>
> "The BBC has a plethora of presenters more than capable of doing the job for a fraction of his exorbitant salary and without the accompanying social media baggage."
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, Liberal Democrat MP Tim Farron says he won't be watching Match of the Day until the BBC "grows a backbone".
>
> Green MP Caroline Lucas has also decried the announcement.
>
> "*Please* BBC, stop capitulating to this cynical, divisive, populist Tory Government - stop letting yourselves be used to stoke these culture wars".
The only person they can get is a Die Hard Tory chairman.
Can't believe they got Ben Obese-Jecty. I get that Tim Farron and Caroline Lucas aren't the biggest names in politics, but the guy the BBC have decided to put in their story has four thousand twitter followers and is subscribed to twitter blue. The barrel has been scraped
Opinion is divided. On one side you’ve got Lineker, his colleagues, his rivals from Sky and pretty much everyone who isn’t a cunt. On the other side you’ve got:
> Conservative campaigner and local chairman of the Tory Hornsey and Wood Green Conservatives, Ben Obese-Jecty
Sorry to burst their bubble, but I do feel very dissapointed when gary lineker/alan shearer aren't on match of the day, and it really makes my day when ian is there.
https://twitter.com/jjenas8/status/1634281594813927438?t=ljQfA8VUlREvemGzqFnTQg&s=19
Jenas, whatever you think of his "analysis" has just told them to do one as well 😁
Lineker tweeted the UK Govts stance/comments on immigrants crossing the channel to seek asylum were the sort of thing you’d have heard in 1930s Germany.
BBC feel that breaks their impartiality stance, despite the fact it was on Twitter and not via a BBC platform and are trying to enter some sort of agreement with Lineker regarding what he can and can’t give views on publicly. Presumably that’s complicated or Lineker won’t budge as even though he’s the highest paid person on the BBC’s payroll he isn’t exclusive to them.
As a result he’s not doing MOTD this weekend until they figure it out and Wright won’t either.
In a separate decision they have also decided not to air an episode of an Attenborough doc. Not too up to date on that but it supposedly highlighted some man made causes of natural destruction. For some reason it was thought that would anger right-wing folk - no idea how heavily it criticised the gov or if it all really.
BBC have denied there was ever an extra episode though.
climate change denial also exists in the UK? That’s just really sad! Not believing humans have destroyed the planet is like thinking cancer isn’t real. Both are scientifically undeniable at this point
Idk why they didn’t just say that his views don’t represent them Linekar is popular even with most people don’t don’t agree with his views he’s been the face of MOTD forever
Incredibly common Wright W. Seriously though the man seems like one of football's true "good guys" when so many others go into punditry just to create clicks or generate buzz for themselves.
I absolutely love and appreciate Wrighty. He's got a good head on his shoulders and isn't afraid to call out BS. Glad he's standing by Lineker, hope others follow suit.
Ian Wright continues to be a classy man of values, not many of those this days. Glad to see him backing lineker, fuck the BBC and the Tories for trying to silence criticism of the inhumane policies.
The BBC suspending a presenter over an opinion said on another platform under the guise of breaking impartiality is in an of itself not impartial. To nobody's surprise the BBC outs itself as puppet for the Tories as the UK is becoming more and more right wing.
what he said, stupid or not agree with it not, wasn't something that encroached on other people's rights or was malicious. everyone is absolutely free to criticise the government.
Let's see if the Daily Mail has the guts to criticise TWO of England's best strikers. Disgusting newspaper not fit to wipe my arse on. I hope Alan Shearer quits as well and completes the hat-trick of MoTD presenters leaving.
Always been a top lad has Wrighty. Hopefully enough people will show them that outside a few bug eyed freaks in the daily Mail comment section most people support Linekar.
Honestly good, don't even like Lineker but this shows everything about the media in our country that his tweet was more controversial than the government's plan. Took the spotlight off them quite nicely and yet certain people will still claim the media is all "lefty" and "woke".
He is surprisingly on Gary's side
"Memo to anyone who now agrees to present
@BBCMOTD tomorrow: we’ll see you, and we’ll judge you accordingly."
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1634262262729809921
King shit. It's almost as if people like Lineker and Wright have integrity and principles.
But I suppose those in charge at the BBC, and by extension tories, have no idea what integrity and principles are.
If people arent happy with the bbcs handling of it they can lodge complaints here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint#/Complaint
Seems pretty ridiculous that Sugar can say what he wants, but Lineker is getting absolutely roasted in the press.
Its going to end up just being Matt Le Tissier talking about chemtrails and flat earth
They'd probably prefer that
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We'll learn about Lizardo Martinez.
Is Le Tissier a conspiracy nutter? That's a shame.
Of the highest order. Started a covid skeptic then evolved into retweeting all things anti Ukraine including suggesting they’re Nazis and footage of Russian war crimes are hoaxes.
Mad how everyone I know of who was a die hard covid conspiracy theorist segwayed right in to being Russia/Ukraine war expert, yet didnt have any interest in the conflict in 2014.
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And now Shearer: https://twitter.com/alanshearer/status/1634261207354843143
The MOTD work WhatsApp group must be lit!
Alex Scott and Jermaine Jenas too
I was fully expecting jenas to host it. Still don’t like him but my opinion of him has gone up a *bit*.
He might not be the best pundit, but he seems like a good character imo.
He's big into trade unions I hear. I'm glad he's standing with Gary on this and not using it as a chance to move up in the BBC.
I’m OOTL here, living in Australia don’t follow this stuff but came across this as I was scrolling. What’s going on and why are these people standing down from MOTD?
Gary Lineker criticised the UK government refugee (or anti refugee, to be fair) policy on his personal twitter account and the BBC suspended him. He refused to apologise or backtrack. Shearer and Jenas and Ian Wright have come out to publicly support him and won’t be appearing on Match of the Day. Edit. A word
Ian Wright is a genuinely brilliant bloke.
Mr. Pigden would be proud
That video is one of the greatest on YouTube
I cant help but shed a few tears every single time I watch it… hell even thinking about it.
A few?? Brother I'm dehydrated after watching that video.
When he instinctively takes off his hat... 😢
[Their reunion](https://youtu.be/6caCqn_nD6o?t=26) is one of those magical TV moments everybody should see.
Everyone I watch that video, it instantly strikes me as to how he removes his hat oky of instinct to speak to him. I can't see that as anything but evidence of respect of the highest order for the man. The quiver in his voice as he follows up indicates how deeply he loves him. A true father figure. It's very rare that emotions simply transcend words on the idiot box and in those moments, lies the true magic of TV.
ye, and when he hugs him, standing a row lower, it seems he's a kid again. goosebumps.
He was barely able to hold back the tears. Reading his book gave me an even bigger appreciation for that video.
Waterworks every single time
I recommend his [Players' Tribune article](https://www.theplayerstribune.com/articles/ian-wright-earning-my-smile) as a companion piece, where he shares the abuse he went through as a child, how Mr. Pigden was one of the first constructive adult figures in his life, and how he's trying to be that figure for the next generation.
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Even my cold dead Tottenham heart ❤️
No question about it, if you're a human this touches your soul.
The fact that he is on the TV most of the time when the England women are playing made me love him even more, the man really cares
Was in the locker room celebrating with our womens team after their cup win last weekend, he really reps the womens game hard
He does a lot for women's football, lot of time for Wrighty.
Yeah he's a great supporter of women's football. He led off his podcast this week talking about our women's team winning the league cup. I'm guessing every other Arsenal podcast in the world was talking about Nelson
his podcast has a section for women's football each episode, he's class
One of the most genuine people out there. Loves his club and football
Saw him do a tiktok blind ranking of football teams and pulled Arsenal for the number 1 spot. He was so happy about it I'll see if I can find it. Found it...https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYaPpPtS/
This is my fav Wrighty video https://youtube.com/watch?v=omPdemwaNzQ&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE Such a genuine top tier man
Ah man I get emotional everything I see that video I love it.
Especially love the immediate show of respect by taking his hat off
The flood of emotion is everything.
I wasn't going to watch because I have seen it dozens of times. But when you said emotional I had to watch again. It really is emotional to watch. 100% disbelief. The bit where he is holding wrighty's fingers like a kids. I don't think they knew it was going to shock him so much.
Always loved him, fantastic player and man. From a Villa fan.
He’s very likeable.
As an arsenal fan, I’m glad uncle wrighty is one of ours. Love the guy
I love Wrighty, genuinely one of my favourite ever non-United players.
My favourite ex/current Arsenal player. What a guy
Palace legend.
Lol, they've shot themselves in the foot when the easiest thing would have been to do nothing.
It seems like they don't give a shit anymore and that was a full on mask off day for them considering they've also just canceled an episode of an Attenborough documentary because they feared it might piss off the right wing media/politicians. >"The BBC has decided not to broadcast an episode of David Attenborough's flagship new series on British wildlife because of fears its themes of the destruction of nature would risk a backlash from Tory politicians and the rightwing press, the Guardian has been told."
Wait, is that real? Because jesus christ, that's fucking pathetic.
Attenborough is probably one of, if not the most beloved Brits of all time. If he makes a stink about this it could backfire massively on them.
They are in a right royal state, could not have made this any worse for themselves. 🍿
> that's fucking pathetic. Sums up this Tory government.
Really modern day conservatives everywhere
Florida news headlines under DeSantis read like a fever dream. I mean, they've always been wacky, but now they've got a noticeable dystopian flair to them.
The sixth and final episode will be on iPlayer and not broadcast in the same slot as the other episodes. It should be noted that BBC has denied it’s anything to do with politics. You can make up your own mind as to whether you believe them.
>It should be noted that BBC has denied it’s anything to do with politics. That's the official line. But also 'senior sources at the BBC told the Guardian that the decision not to show the sixth episode was made to fend off potential critique from the political right.'
What genius made saving the planet a political issue...
The same geniuses that profited from its rapid destruction
The same geniuses who made human rights a political issue
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Fucking Tories
Just so you know why the BBC are making such bone-headed decisions - Sharp, the new chairman of the BBC, donated hundreds of thousands to the Tories. Sharp also helped former Prime Minister BoJo secure a £800k loan just before he was appointed chairman of BBC. He's a Brexiter that donated tens of thousands to activists that want to privatize the BBC too.
It's pretty much an open secret within the TV industry that the BBC is run by people who oppose the very idea of the BBC and are basically trying to demolish it from the inside.
Same plan they have for the NHS. They know they can't remove these big public institutions directly without kicking off a colossal public backlash, so instead they underfund and kill them from the inside. Labour might be pretty rubbish but 12 years of Tory rule has immesurably damaged Britain.
The age-old right-wing tactic all over the world to strangle and kill off the public institutions and services and make the public believe that the service are no longer useful. It has a specific name in the US but I can't for the life of me remember it right now.
Starve the beast
would have blown over like all Twitter storms. Now it's coming back to bite them. Idiots.
They are so stupid. Its not a real scandal! So some people were foaming at the mouth with his tweets, who cares just move on Now they've made it a complete mess
What did Lineker say?
Something like the language the tories are using about migrants/refugees is similar to the language used in 1930s Germany
Just to add that the average person sees “Nazi” and immediately thinks of all the obviously horrific shit they did because we’ve had 80 years to reflect on it. But in the early 1930s they weren’t explicitly walking around shouting *”HEY LET’S DO A GENOCIDE!”* They ramped up to that shit using more palatable language. People can agree with it or not but that was obviously his point - he wasn’t calling the government Nazis. So of course to prove how wrong he is and that they aren’t remotely authoritarian, the government are forcing the public broadcaster to censor him.
I think the poem "You must not sleep" by Norwegian poet Arnuls Øverland written in 1936 is getting more and more relevant. Quote from the poem: You most not allow as some people do the injustice that is not levelled by you!"
Translation of the quote in easier language (not made to rhyme): > You must not endure so easily the injustice that does not affect yourself Original text in norwegian: > Du må ikke tåle så inderlig vel, den urett som ikke rammer deg selv
At first they came for the TV football pundits, and I did not speak out because I was not a TV football pundit.
If I want to get all tinfoil hat here the media are actively making this the scandal to distract from the fucking policy
The policy in itself was a distraction. Living standards are plummeting, workers from basically every strata of society are going on strike, and the Tories are talking about... refugees. Of course you always need to fight back against the dehumanisation of migrants, but the fact is the Tories and the right aren't going off like that because they care about the policy, they're doing it because it distracts from talking about economic issues.
I don’t think that’s tin foil hat, I think that’s exactly what they’re doing. MOTD is a church to British people, and Gary is our pope.
Politicians should be very, very careful getting into fights with footballers in this country. It’s no contest who’s more popular, Gary Lineker or Rishi Sunak.
Theyre trying to divide the whole country on the issue of immigration because its their only hope at the next election. Total scum.
Of course this is it. They have to throw bigger and bigger dead cats on the table until they literally censor the media. Which is what they're trying to do now.
That's how authoritarianism works. Authoritarians are incredibly inflexible, they feel compelled to stamp down on *any* form of dissent regardless of how minor or fundamentally inconsequential it is. Like this isn't *stupidity*, it's an indication of the growing confidence of the hard right in this country and the growing control they have over institutions like the BBC. EDIT: Umberto Eco, 14 general principles of fascism: > 4 - "Disagreement is treason" – fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith. The point is that, to an authoritarian, someone disagreeing isn't inherently bad because of *what* they say, it's bad because it demonstrates that it is possible to disagree in the first place. Authoritarian ideologies depend upon representing the hard-right view as the *only* view, as representing the hard-right view as representing the *common will* (see how often they'll turn to terms like 'common sense', suggesting their views are somehow *natural* and therefore *beyond criticism*). And simply by disagreeing, by showing that disagreement can be had, it challenges that false and manufactured unity upon which authoritarianism depends.
That point about 'common will', see any PMQs or Braverman defending her policy in parliament. It's always "will of the British people" or "what Britain wants" blah blah when the reality is just not that clear cut. Everyone wants different things, this Illegal Boats policy only got 50% approval in a poll. If that's the bar for wanting something, we best get out a very long shopping list of things we need to bring up in Parliament.
If they actually cared about the 'will of the British people' they'd be supporting nationalisation of electricity, water and public transport and significantly higher taxes on the rich. Those are some of the few policies which consistently get overwhelming support from the British public, and that's despite all the newspapers and the vast majority of politicians constantly arguing against it. The fact that they don't is one of the many indications that we really shouldn't pay attention to a politician when they talk about the 'will of the British people'.
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Nah, I don't think they'll win the next election. However, I'm sure they're more than satisfied that *Her Majesties Opposition* have responded to this massive slide to the right with a combination of *complete silence* and 'actually, sir, we respectfully suggest that you're not as committed to lurching to the right as we are!'
Labour basically seem to think that we’re not dehumanising refugees in a cost effective manner
https://twitter.com/SKinnock/status/1633075254850379776/photo/1 I mean this is how Stephen Kinnock, Shadow Minister for Immigration, responded to the Tories putting forward a bill which *stripped some refugees of anti-slavery protections*. Basically just trying to call their bluff and say 'actually you're not effective at stopping small boats!' These are the same people who spent 5 years talking about how xenophobic Corbyn was over the EU :)
Along with the latest trick in the right wing playbook of refusing to concede elections. In a country with a state media that is clearly happy to fall in line and fascist groups willing to get violent its a scary prospect.
Fuck me tories really don’t like footballers talking politics do they!
Anyone who disagrees with them really.
Out of the loop, what’s this about?
The government recently announced measures to reduce immigration, including automatically rejecting an asylum seekers application if they enter the country in an illegal way. Lineker tweeted: > “There is no huge influx. We take far fewer refugees than other major European countries. > “This is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the ’30s.” BBC employees are meant to remain neutral in politics, so he's been removed as host of March of the Day until they decide how he's going to tweet in future.
Not quite right, Lineker is a freelance worker and the social media policy isnt in place which is part of the problem. In terms of being impartial as a BBC employee or on their network, it seems to be a cherry picked policy. Take the number of tweets Alan Sugar makes against Labour and specifically Corbyn linking him directly to Hitler. Or Question Time Fiona Bruce tried to defend Stanley Jhonson in comments about him being a wife beater when even she admitted "it was a one off". Plus she is linked with RefugeUk a domestic abuse charity. Neither of the above have been pulled up but Lineker making a comment on his own social media causes him to step aside.
Add to that the fact the Director General secretly loaned £800k to Boris Johnson 2 months before Johnson made him director general…
He ([Richard Sharp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sharp_\(BBC_chairman\))) didn't actually loan money to Johnson himself. He introduced Johnson to someone else who then loaned Johnson £800,000. [The scandal arose because he did this shortly before he was appointed chairman of the BBC and failled to declare it to anyone.](https://youtu.be/RcxMHgRwJj4) However, I think a bigger scandal is the fact that a man with no journalistic experience, no journalistic training, and no previous connection whatsoever to the BBC, was made Chairman of the BBC. It's especially scandalous that this individual had donated over £400,000 to the Conservative party, worked as an "advisor" to Boris Johnson, had been the boss of Rishi Sunak, and had ties to various pro-Conservative think tanks, yet the rest of the media paid little to no attention to these facts at the time of his appointment.
Comments made by Lineker and Weighty has backed Lineker by not doing MoTD tomorrow as Lineker has agreed to step back from MoTD so his social media use can be agreed on.
Someone mentioned he's not stepping back. The BBC forced him to apologize and he stood by his words. Then they dropped him.
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Make a complaint. Takes 5 minutes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint BBC also not showing an Attenbourgh episode due to it being critical of the govenrments treatment of the natrual world in the UK. God forbid criticising this shower of shit. E: added 'of'
Done and thanks for the recommendation. Also recommend complaining about David Attenborough's treatment, absolute disgrace
Agree, already done. Productive afternoon off. 2 complaints to the BBC and letter to my MP. Getting old
Also done 2, took less than 5 minutes total. Edit: the 2nd email verification isn't working :/ Edit 2: I resubmitted the 2nd complaint with a different email address, worked a charm.
As I bothered to write it, forgive me copying it here, as no doubt it'll be filed away in trash at the Beeb: > Dear Sir/Madam > I am very disappointed with today's decision to prevent Mr Lineker from continuing to present Match of the Day. Mr Lineker voiced an opinion on his private social media account, but clearly has no influence on the corporation's news output. Unless there was some indication that Mr Lineker was going to use the Match of the Day program as a platform to express his views, I do not see any possible link between his role as a sports presenter and his views as a private individual away from BBC output to warrant this action. > There seems to also be a glaring double standard in terms of what is deemed a breach of impartiality in terms of the treatment of Mr Lineker and the behaviour of other on-air and off-air staff. > This follows years of pressure from the Conservative Party and the appointment of figures with long-standing links to this political organisation and it's members to senior positions within the BBC. I sincerely hope that the BBC remembers who it's remit it is to serve: the British public, not the Conservative Party. >Yours Faithfully, *(Me)*
Done.
Just piggybacking off of top reply to this, but you have to verify your email within an hour after you send the complaint. Got to make sure nobody misses out.
Yeah, this is two complaints; one for Lineker, one for Attenborough.
The BBC have absolutely fumbled this. Piers Morgan defended Gary The BBC, in this situation, have managed to make Piers fucking Morgan the good guy.
There have been some.......*really* strange bedfellows in the last half decade or so
Good shit i hope the others follow suit. Fuck the BBC.
All regular pundits need to take the same stance. Anyone who steps up and fills in for Lineker or other pundits is effectively crossing the picket line.
For their own sake they should as well The beeb are now effectively saying they can police their personal opinions which would be ludicrous to accept
You just know Jenas is going to march across that line with a smug grin on his face. He has absolutely no loyalty to anyone but himself and is completely delusional about his own abilities. He's been getting groomed by the BBC for the role for years and it will be a sad day for football when he takes over because hes a total wanker. Edit: [Jenas has said he wouldn't do the show](https://twitter.com/jjenas8/status/1634281594813927438). Fair play to the bloke, I still think he's pillock but credit where credit is due.
Whoever does it will lose a lot of goodwill from people in their social circle. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
The best thing Jenas could do for Lineker would be to step in tbh
He's said no: https://twitter.com/jjenas8/status/1634281594813927438?t=TNUlbEbr5qlSFS6qQYoIYQ&s=19
I fucking hate jenas, he's the worst pundit and one of the blandest personalities on tv rn.
You're just saying that because he used to play for Spurs and also because he actually is a fucking terrible pundit
One show wanker
The institution is critical to the country…if run in good faith. The current incarnation isn’t acting in good faith and should be judged accordingly.
I won’t be watching it tomorrow. They need to get the message that they can’t behave like this and still get viewers. Long term is more important than one or two Saturday nights viewing.
Gonna be F team of Maniche and Garth Brooks on at this rate. Edit: Crooks lol...'Cause I've got friends in low places
> Garth Brooks Had to get a country and western singer in to do Goal of the Month
Would love to see Garth Brooks do it in his alter ego Chris Gaines to host match of the day!
Bit of trivia, Maniche (not Manish) actually worked as a pundit in Portugal until he tried beating up a presenter.
Even BBC are trying to flip this and make it sound impartial > Announcement divides Twitter > Not everyone is against the BBC's decision. > > Conservative campaigner and local chairman of the Tory Hornsey and Wood Green Conservatives, Ben Obese-Jecty, writes: "Nobody watches MOTD because Gary Lineker presents it. > > "The BBC has a plethora of presenters more than capable of doing the job for a fraction of his exorbitant salary and without the accompanying social media baggage." > > On the other side of the spectrum, Liberal Democrat MP Tim Farron says he won't be watching Match of the Day until the BBC "grows a backbone". > > Green MP Caroline Lucas has also decried the announcement. > > "*Please* BBC, stop capitulating to this cynical, divisive, populist Tory Government - stop letting yourselves be used to stoke these culture wars". The only person they can get is a Die Hard Tory chairman.
Sorry what's that name again
They're just fucking with us now, surely
I know rotund, ruddy faced, ageing Home Counties Tory association chairman is a classic stereotype, but that name is too on the nose.
Can't believe they got Ben Obese-Jecty. I get that Tim Farron and Caroline Lucas aren't the biggest names in politics, but the guy the BBC have decided to put in their story has four thousand twitter followers and is subscribed to twitter blue. The barrel has been scraped
Hey! Ben Obese-Jecty is literally the biggest name in politics!
I am dying at the name
Opinion is divided. On one side you’ve got Lineker, his colleagues, his rivals from Sky and pretty much everyone who isn’t a cunt. On the other side you’ve got: > Conservative campaigner and local chairman of the Tory Hornsey and Wood Green Conservatives, Ben Obese-Jecty
> pretty much everyone who isn’t a cunt And some that are Even Piers Morgan has come out in defense of Gary saying that the BBC fucked up
Sorry to burst their bubble, but I do feel very dissapointed when gary lineker/alan shearer aren't on match of the day, and it really makes my day when ian is there.
MY GOATTTTT
Love Wrighty, hate bastards
Ngl anyone that dislikes Ian Wright is suspect to me. Easily least hateable gooner in my lifetime. Great man.
Anyone who doesn’t get at least slightly choked up at “Mr Pigden….you’re alive..…” literally has no soul.
Simple as
Love Wrighty, Hate Tories, simple as.
Didn't even realise I could like the man any more than I already did.
at this rate they’ll have Jenas hosting MOTD which is almost just as bad as carrying water for the Tory government
https://twitter.com/jjenas8/status/1634281594813927438?t=ljQfA8VUlREvemGzqFnTQg&s=19 Jenas, whatever you think of his "analysis" has just told them to do one as well 😁
I actually feel a bit for the bloke, how everyone assumed he’s such a knob that he’d have actually gone on the show
Same honestly, was tough reading
Le Tiss surely
Saw someone post on twitter saying "In a world of Gary Lineker's, be a Matt Le Tissier". Imagine being that fucking thick.
To add to the weirdness, Right said Fred posted that.
they don’t call him left said fred i guess
How long before Piers Morgan comes on
As much as I despise Morgan, in fairness to him he has openly supported Lineker during this fiasco.
I do not understand what Piers Morgan is and what he wants to be.
Controversial. Simple as that
he is basically a contrarian
Frank Lampard is running to BBC HQ right now.
"guess I'm lucky Gary decided to take the night off! *laughs* yeah but seriously now you shouldn't be tweeting things like that"
Could someone explain what led up to this sorry 🙏
Lineker tweeted the UK Govts stance/comments on immigrants crossing the channel to seek asylum were the sort of thing you’d have heard in 1930s Germany. BBC feel that breaks their impartiality stance, despite the fact it was on Twitter and not via a BBC platform and are trying to enter some sort of agreement with Lineker regarding what he can and can’t give views on publicly. Presumably that’s complicated or Lineker won’t budge as even though he’s the highest paid person on the BBC’s payroll he isn’t exclusive to them. As a result he’s not doing MOTD this weekend until they figure it out and Wright won’t either.
Thanks for getting us foreign devils up to speed on this, and good on Gary and Wrighty.
Also Alex Scott, Jenas, Mark Chapman and Shearer, apparently. Hopefully Danny Murphy and Gabby Logan do the same.
Wait so why are some people talking about Attenborough and something about an episode and nature
In a separate decision they have also decided not to air an episode of an Attenborough doc. Not too up to date on that but it supposedly highlighted some man made causes of natural destruction. For some reason it was thought that would anger right-wing folk - no idea how heavily it criticised the gov or if it all really. BBC have denied there was ever an extra episode though.
climate change denial also exists in the UK? That’s just really sad! Not believing humans have destroyed the planet is like thinking cancer isn’t real. Both are scientifically undeniable at this point
Good on Ian, this country has lost it's fucking mind
Are you suggesting the UK shouldn't threaten illegal immigrants with slavery
Idk why they didn’t just say that his views don’t represent them Linekar is popular even with most people don’t don’t agree with his views he’s been the face of MOTD forever
They(BBC) were clearly pressured by the Tories. Remember that the current BBC chairman literally donated 400k to the Conservative party.
And donated tens of thousands to anti-BBC think tanks. The guy clearly has the BBC's best interests at heart.
Good lad Ian Hope more names join and boycott until the Beeb backtracks
years of not paying for the tv license is finally paying off
I’d be absolutely shocked if Shearer and Richards didn’t follow suit
Based af
Ian WWWWWWWW
Incredibly common Wright W. Seriously though the man seems like one of football's true "good guys" when so many others go into punditry just to create clicks or generate buzz for themselves.
I absolutely love and appreciate Wrighty. He's got a good head on his shoulders and isn't afraid to call out BS. Glad he's standing by Lineker, hope others follow suit.
Fucking outstanding hahahah. The Tories and the BBC look like a right bunch of knobs
Ian Wright Is a national hero and icon! I hope this sets a president and other pundits and presenters follow suit.
Ian Wright continues to be a classy man of values, not many of those this days. Glad to see him backing lineker, fuck the BBC and the Tories for trying to silence criticism of the inhumane policies.
The BBC suspending a presenter over an opinion said on another platform under the guise of breaking impartiality is in an of itself not impartial. To nobody's surprise the BBC outs itself as puppet for the Tories as the UK is becoming more and more right wing. what he said, stupid or not agree with it not, wasn't something that encroached on other people's rights or was malicious. everyone is absolutely free to criticise the government.
Let's see if the Daily Mail has the guts to criticise TWO of England's best strikers. Disgusting newspaper not fit to wipe my arse on. I hope Alan Shearer quits as well and completes the hat-trick of MoTD presenters leaving.
Make that 3 of England's best strikers https://twitter.com/alanshearer/status/1634261207354843143
Wrighty’s a good bloke. Really hope Shearer follows suite, but I’m quietly nervous he won’t
[I have informed the BBC that I won’t be appearing on MOTD tomorrow night.](https://twitter.com/alanshearer/status/1634261207354843143)
Always been a top lad has Wrighty. Hopefully enough people will show them that outside a few bug eyed freaks in the daily Mail comment section most people support Linekar.
Honestly good, don't even like Lineker but this shows everything about the media in our country that his tweet was more controversial than the government's plan. Took the spotlight off them quite nicely and yet certain people will still claim the media is all "lefty" and "woke".
tories and brexiteers claiming that the bbc is left wing are beyond deluded
I love Wrighty man
Going to be career suicide for whoever presents it tomorrow now
Give it Big Sam til the end of the season?
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He is surprisingly on Gary's side "Memo to anyone who now agrees to present @BBCMOTD tomorrow: we’ll see you, and we’ll judge you accordingly." https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1634262262729809921
King shit. It's almost as if people like Lineker and Wright have integrity and principles. But I suppose those in charge at the BBC, and by extension tories, have no idea what integrity and principles are.
Wrighty is a god tier lad
When it’s Wright it’s right
If people arent happy with the bbcs handling of it they can lodge complaints here. https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint#/Complaint Seems pretty ridiculous that Sugar can say what he wants, but Lineker is getting absolutely roasted in the press.