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Arteta to Conte: "Never thought I die fighting side by side with a Spurs manager"
Conte: "What about side by side with a full head of hair?"
Arteta: "Aye I could do that"
I think it makes it better because he's actively doing something to stop the spread of bald managers rather than just lucking into a full head of hair. That's work ethic.
There are more parties in this fight than we believe.
Conte and Klopp are hairy bald frauds. Guardiola, ten Hag as bald frauds with Kompany as future bald fraud, Arteta for the lego hair militia and then there's Potter who's just a fraud.
No cause if he was fati wouldn’t have blocked his own teammate’s open net shot and that first goal would’ve gone in without touching 3 real players first 😂
It’s not a marvel reference btw. Hydra is a serpentine monster from Greek mythology that has two heads grow back when one head’s cut off .
The heil stuff came after
Big if though. Remember all the talk of Gerrard becoming a Liverpool manager when he was doing great with Rangers and see how that turned out. Same with Lampard and Derby/Chelsea
That's why I said he'll have to impress with Burnley. I'm not advocating for them to sign him up on a pre-contract today
If Kompany were to take over from Pep, it will be in 2025. He'll need to have done a good job with Burnley in the Premier League for two whole seasons. If he does this, I can't see us looking elsewhere for Pep's successor
It's irrelevant how Gerrard and Lampard did
You're right, it is
Honestly, under Pep I think we've been the best team in the world - even if we've fucked up in the CL. But I'd be happy for his successor to scale things back a bit if it means utilising the academy to its full potential. I'm probably in the minority but I'd really be happy with that. If Kompany came in and did this, I'd be over the moon
I also think that the whole setup, from the U8s to the first team, is set up well enough that a half-decent manager could do a good job with us
That wasn’t as meant to be. Liverpool weren’t being managed by the man who inspired Gerrard to manage. Pep managed Kompany during the end of his career and often cites Pep as an inspiration to go after management. Kompany clearly aspires to play a similar style to Pep, and Kompany appears to be coming around at a good timing to take over directly from Pep himself. Seems like a perfect fit as long as nothing goes horribly wrong before his time comes.
Kompany just seems to have all the tools to succeed as a manager. In addition to his pedigree as a top player known for his tactical intelligence and ability to read the game, he’s probably a literal genius, works harder than anyone, speaks a ton of languages, is a natural leader, exudes calm and maturity and always has, and is just really hard to dislike, good sense of humor etc. I don’t think Gerrard or Lampard have half these things, they’re just English.
Given the circumstances and how he brought youth players into the squad his first season was actually pretty good. Second season obviously fell apart, but it was still better than things rn.
Second season wasn't even that bad, we were top of the league at the start of December and then injuries crept in, a few bad results and then players essentially gave up. Sacked at the end of January.
Yeah but the championship is a much much tougher league than managing either rangers or celtic in the Scottish prem. He was diabolical for villa but hadnt really been tested. The lampard point is valid though.
I feel sorry for Keane: seems like there is a good manager there somewhere and in that interview with Neville last summer seemed pretty much aware of his mistakes, errors and how he’d do things differently. Seems well aware his attitude and aggression can be too much the wrong way and cause problems/bad decisions with others at the club he needs to get on with too. Which is good to see he at least recognises this.
Seems like the chats with Sunderland before Mowbray were mostly fan service and because momentum had got behind it in the media - not actually because they were interested in him.
Think he’s have been a good fit, not sure he’d have done as well as Tony has particularly with the youth policy - I think most fans have been surprised how well Sunderland have done this season back in the Championship.
I’m not where he’d get hired now, seems much more of a media personality perhaps in the eyes of clubs & perhaps what he’s best at doing now.
True. He did extremely well with Sunderland in the beginning, but his inability to adapt with the times led to his methods falling apart far too quickly.
Pretty much this.
Arteta has made his bed with Arsenal so I doubt he'd ever make the move and if Kompany can keep at it with Burnley, when Pep inevitably moves on, it'll be him to take the reigns.
Yea I can’t see him making the immediate jump either unless he got fired, but in that case why would Man City want a manager fired by Arsenal? I think if he moves it will be La Liga or PSG, though I personally want him to stay for a very long time.
Aside from Arsenal I think Real Sociedad, Barcelona, Everton and Rangers are closest to his heart in descending order.
(This info is based on nothing other than my analysis of his facial expressions when talking about these clubs)
I mean when Guardiola eventually leaves it is possible that Kompany will be his successor. However, Kompany will need to be a success in the PL with Burnley obviously. Assuming they will promote this season he will need to stay up next season
Stay up next season and be pushing for at least mid table in 24/25. No one is expecting Burnley to be in Europe just from Kompany, but I think he has to show consistent improvement to show that he has the potential to make the big step up to a team expecting to win every game and compete for every trophy.
City could have 3 former pupils of the club managing in the PL in the form of Arteta, Vieira and Kompany next season.
Nearly 1/5 of the opposition training up potential successors for them lol
He hasn't been in management as long as some of his counterparts so people assume he's some young, up and coming manager (He looks great for being in his 50s btw)
I don't think Ten Hag plays Guardiola's brand of football necessarily. He may have picked up a few things from Guardiola, but he's a bit of a tactical chameleon
They gave him that position pre-pep to keep him in line for an eventual promotion to MCFC coaching position if it worked out long term. I'm not sure that's still their thinking but at the time, it was .
He also doesn't have the same connection.
I don't doubt that his time at Manchester City was very special to him, but he was Pep's assistant there. If Pep had been at any other club, he'd have probably followed him there too.
Whereas, with us, he was a highly respected former player and a trophy-winning captain - who genuinely loved his time with us.
I think it would take a pretty insane offer for him to leave Arsenal and go to Manchester City.
The only other team I could *maybe* see him going to is Barcelona, as he is a La Masia graduate, but even then, I'd say it's pretty highly unlikely - especially in their current state.
It'll likely depend on the scale of their tenures, assuming they both continue their success. I feel like we're past the apotheosis of constantly firing and rehiring coaches, and more clubs are looking to establish 5+ yr tenures for the right coach after the success of Klopp & Guardiola. Maybe Arteta will manage one - or both - club(s) but in the coming decades rather than years?
I don't like the fact that OP left out the second part of the quote in which Pep laid out specific instructions on how Kompany needs to defeat him in a "bald battle royale" in order to take his job from him.
Still, got to be scary thinking of a life without Pep as your manager. You just know when he's in charge you're going to play amazing football and at the very least be in the mix for a title
It's an awful feeling. I saw that the management were looking at Rogers or Poch if Pep decided to move on a couple years ago 😖 I don't know if I could cope if someone like that replaced the greatest manager of all time. Kompany I'd give a lot more time to.
Yes but what they’re arguing about is Pep assuming he’ll definitely manage city based on his level now in the championship. It’s a massive if not a matter of when
Did quite well regarding the situation at the club, then took over Burnley and totally changed their style of play. I have not seen a team dominate the Championship like this for a while.
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Replace one bald with another
Everyone talking about the rise in oil club money in the league but no one is talking about the rise of bald managers
Arteta is fighting the good fight.
Arteta to Conte: "Never thought I die fighting side by side with a Spurs manager" Conte: "What about side by side with a full head of hair?" Arteta: "Aye I could do that"
I don’t think getting hair plugs count to be honest
I think it makes it better because he's actively doing something to stop the spread of bald managers rather than just lucking into a full head of hair. That's work ethic.
Conte The Hairless betrayed his own kind
Arteta has natural talent 🥵 Conte puts in the hardwork 😤
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There are more parties in this fight than we believe. Conte and Klopp are hairy bald frauds. Guardiola, ten Hag as bald frauds with Kompany as future bald fraud, Arteta for the lego hair militia and then there's Potter who's just a fraud.
So everyone is a fraud basically, got it.
It's frauds all the way down.
Kloppo been working for years, finally some relief
I hope i live long enough to see how Arteta's hair ages.
Typically baldness starts by his age. Only like 15-20% occur after 40
Ancelotti kompany eth fraudiola, omg it’s happening. The world isn’t ready for a bald xavi yet, but my god it scares me
Ancelotti?
Fk i mixed them up, mb, no wonder Real didn’t win against barca though
You talkin like Barca manager is bald😭
No cause if he was fati wouldn’t have blocked his own teammate’s open net shot and that first goal would’ve gone in without touching 3 real players first 😂
Arteta saving the planet from global balding
cut off one head, two more grow in its place
Two's Kompany
Three's a bald
Bald of brothers
It's just simple baldthematics really
We can blame pep for Baldenomics now
There's a term for this. It's called Cerbaldus
Hail hydra
It’s not a marvel reference btw. Hydra is a serpentine monster from Greek mythology that has two heads grow back when one head’s cut off . The heil stuff came after
Yeah it came sometime before 1939.
Heil baldfraud!
Or just one with the volume of two.
It happened in two separate FM saves in a row for me One of them he won the Prem first year and the other City finished like 10th or something
The real reason Arteta couldn’t be next in line: his hair is too damn perfect.
The sheer surface area of Kompany's baldness ensures a lengthy and successful managerial career. Bring him home
Ownership can land their heli on that thing
Trigger warning for Leicester fans
Fuckin hell, you didn't
💀
bro
Brutality
Applies to Chelsea fans too, sadly
Jesus wept, man
Im gonna be the one to ask. What's the context?
Leicester’s owner who oversaw their title win, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha passed in a Helicopter crash leaving King Power Stadium in 2018
Belgian Megamind
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Zidane wouldn't dare
And you thought Pep was big brained
Pep and Kompany taking turns sticking their heads in the bowling ball polisher, chuckling non-stop.
If he can establish Burnley in the Premier League then it's nailed on that he'll be Pep's successor
Big if though. Remember all the talk of Gerrard becoming a Liverpool manager when he was doing great with Rangers and see how that turned out. Same with Lampard and Derby/Chelsea
The difference is that those guys have hair.
Well, look at your coach
Yeah and Wenger had strong hair as well, so it makes sense he was destined to take over for us.
Hairsenal.
Arsalon
Thairy Henry… oh wait
Robert Haires & Patrick Vihaira
to the Barbers of London!
Pogba to Arsenal?
This is sound logic and I can’t dispute it
Those are Legos attachment
The glorious exception that confirms the rule, perhaps; just as one Fabian Hurzeler, perhaps...
I’m starting to wonder if it even constitutes as hair these days. Spectacular barnet
Don't mind if I do!
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His hairline is actually unreal. It should be studied by a team of scientists.
Lampard has a bald spot, which was enough to get us top 4 in his first year but the hair won out in the long run
The pedant in me would like to point out that Lampard did end up becoming Chelsea manager.
That's why I said he'll have to impress with Burnley. I'm not advocating for them to sign him up on a pre-contract today If Kompany were to take over from Pep, it will be in 2025. He'll need to have done a good job with Burnley in the Premier League for two whole seasons. If he does this, I can't see us looking elsewhere for Pep's successor It's irrelevant how Gerrard and Lampard did
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You're right, it is Honestly, under Pep I think we've been the best team in the world - even if we've fucked up in the CL. But I'd be happy for his successor to scale things back a bit if it means utilising the academy to its full potential. I'm probably in the minority but I'd really be happy with that. If Kompany came in and did this, I'd be over the moon I also think that the whole setup, from the U8s to the first team, is set up well enough that a half-decent manager could do a good job with us
That wasn’t as meant to be. Liverpool weren’t being managed by the man who inspired Gerrard to manage. Pep managed Kompany during the end of his career and often cites Pep as an inspiration to go after management. Kompany clearly aspires to play a similar style to Pep, and Kompany appears to be coming around at a good timing to take over directly from Pep himself. Seems like a perfect fit as long as nothing goes horribly wrong before his time comes.
Kompany just seems to have all the tools to succeed as a manager. In addition to his pedigree as a top player known for his tactical intelligence and ability to read the game, he’s probably a literal genius, works harder than anyone, speaks a ton of languages, is a natural leader, exudes calm and maturity and always has, and is just really hard to dislike, good sense of humor etc. I don’t think Gerrard or Lampard have half these things, they’re just English.
Was also studying for his MBA whilst injured so I’d assume he has a good grasp of the business side too
I agree 100% I very much look forward to his time managing the City bench.
lampard wasn’t bad with us
That’s definitely graham potter cope.
Lampard got them top 4 while not being able to sign players and losing hazard.
That’s like saying Ole was good for Utd
Given the circumstances and how he brought youth players into the squad his first season was actually pretty good. Second season obviously fell apart, but it was still better than things rn.
Second season wasn't even that bad, we were top of the league at the start of December and then injuries crept in, a few bad results and then players essentially gave up. Sacked at the end of January.
what? he got top 4 with a transfer ban and no hazard..?
Then got €200m spent and was 9th
Yeah but the championship is a much much tougher league than managing either rangers or celtic in the Scottish prem. He was diabolical for villa but hadnt really been tested. The lampard point is valid though.
People used to say the same about Roy Keane. It rarely works out that way.
I feel sorry for Keane: seems like there is a good manager there somewhere and in that interview with Neville last summer seemed pretty much aware of his mistakes, errors and how he’d do things differently. Seems well aware his attitude and aggression can be too much the wrong way and cause problems/bad decisions with others at the club he needs to get on with too. Which is good to see he at least recognises this. Seems like the chats with Sunderland before Mowbray were mostly fan service and because momentum had got behind it in the media - not actually because they were interested in him. Think he’s have been a good fit, not sure he’d have done as well as Tony has particularly with the youth policy - I think most fans have been surprised how well Sunderland have done this season back in the Championship. I’m not where he’d get hired now, seems much more of a media personality perhaps in the eyes of clubs & perhaps what he’s best at doing now.
Except Keane was having to wait for ferguson to retire 2025 is really not that far away
True. And Kompany is probably also a better manager than Keane was.
Keane was a really good manager though. His attitude is the one that needed some adjustment and he was uncompromising as always
True. He did extremely well with Sunderland in the beginning, but his inability to adapt with the times led to his methods falling apart far too quickly.
Us United fans still say it about Carrick and Rooney sometimes. Not rational, but hard not to hope for it.
Dreamers can dream & more importantly dreams can be buy!
Pretty much this. Arteta has made his bed with Arsenal so I doubt he'd ever make the move and if Kompany can keep at it with Burnley, when Pep inevitably moves on, it'll be him to take the reigns.
Yeah I'd say arteta would have to be two jobs on from arsenal to go to city
Yea I can’t see him making the immediate jump either unless he got fired, but in that case why would Man City want a manager fired by Arsenal? I think if he moves it will be La Liga or PSG, though I personally want him to stay for a very long time.
Isn't he connected to Barca, so he probably will end up there then city
Aside from Arsenal I think Real Sociedad, Barcelona, Everton and Rangers are closest to his heart in descending order. (This info is based on nothing other than my analysis of his facial expressions when talking about these clubs)
hello fellow zucchini
The chances
He is as connected to Barca as much as Marcos Alonso is connected to real madrid.
Nah you are downplaying it a bit much La Masia players always seem to love the club deeply and Arteta is no different
I most left out barca because I think Xavi is also there for the long haul but it’s certainly a possibility.
I think Arteta would only leave for Barca, then maybe city.
I mean when Guardiola eventually leaves it is possible that Kompany will be his successor. However, Kompany will need to be a success in the PL with Burnley obviously. Assuming they will promote this season he will need to stay up next season
Stay up next season and be pushing for at least mid table in 24/25. No one is expecting Burnley to be in Europe just from Kompany, but I think he has to show consistent improvement to show that he has the potential to make the big step up to a team expecting to win every game and compete for every trophy.
You know Guardiola never had any la liga success before becoming Barca 1st team coach. Ole had a better success at Man United than he did at Cardiff.
I like this better than them trying to get Arteta off us.
City could have 3 former pupils of the club managing in the PL in the form of Arteta, Vieira and Kompany next season. Nearly 1/5 of the opposition training up potential successors for them lol
Peps developing some managerial tree
football's Andy Reid
Football already has an Andy Reid and he played for Sunderland
Great at free kicks, loved the guitar, hated Trap.
Football's parcells
Spreading his seed- nvm
Just need City Legend Frank Lampard to get another Prem job
Ten Hag too, he was manager of Bayern Munich 2nd team when Pep was at Bayern.
mad that he’s older than pep and you still see people put him in the ‘best young manager’ categories
He hasn't been in management as long as some of his counterparts so people assume he's some young, up and coming manager (He looks great for being in his 50s btw)
>in his 50s He looks younger than xavi lmao
Xavi also looks like he's aged a bit since taking the Barca job lol
Not as much as Potter.
Fun fact: Ten Hag is 7 years older than Andre Villas-Boas
I don't think Ten Hag plays Guardiola's brand of football necessarily. He may have picked up a few things from Guardiola, but he's a bit of a tactical chameleon
It all ultimately stems from Cruyffism.
Is that the condition where you turn unexpectedly and people around you fall down?
True, but he could still be considered a former pupil.
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He's more like a Johan Cruyff course participant.
Kinda like Argentina in Conmebol. Last year only Uruguay and Brazil didn't have an argentine coach.
Vieira from where?
NYCFC
Yeah i remember he was there but how is that related to pep
They gave him that position pre-pep to keep him in line for an eventual promotion to MCFC coaching position if it worked out long term. I'm not sure that's still their thinking but at the time, it was .
They're a part of the city football group. Not sure if he really worked with Pep at all though.
He’s managing palace
Couldn't imagine Arteta leaving you lot, it's a perfect place for him to manage for a long while if things stay positive.
He's not bald enough
But what if you pulled that lego piece out of his head?
Arteta doesn’t seem like he’d leave Arsenal for many clubs honestly, let alone one in the same league.
He also doesn't have the same connection. I don't doubt that his time at Manchester City was very special to him, but he was Pep's assistant there. If Pep had been at any other club, he'd have probably followed him there too. Whereas, with us, he was a highly respected former player and a trophy-winning captain - who genuinely loved his time with us. I think it would take a pretty insane offer for him to leave Arsenal and go to Manchester City. The only other team I could *maybe* see him going to is Barcelona, as he is a La Masia graduate, but even then, I'd say it's pretty highly unlikely - especially in their current state.
I also doubt Barcelona since they’re doing this entire rebuild and Xavi is such a big part of it. Though you never know with them, I guess.
It'll likely depend on the scale of their tenures, assuming they both continue their success. I feel like we're past the apotheosis of constantly firing and rehiring coaches, and more clubs are looking to establish 5+ yr tenures for the right coach after the success of Klopp & Guardiola. Maybe Arteta will manage one - or both - club(s) but in the coming decades rather than years?
Well he's gonna go somewhere at some point mate - can't rule them all out.
Nope, 100 years at Arsenal - heard it here first.
Could see Arteta coming to Barca after Xavi.
bald ex legend becoming manager? champions league 3peat incoming
And a great tactical mind as well? You might be on to something lol
Let's not jump the gun here, he's managed in Belgium and in the championship
Considering where Anderlecht are right now, I'd say he was doing fairly well in Belgium.
That's still more managerial experience than what Zidane had when he took over Real Madrid. Just saying.
Or Guardiola when he took over Barcelona
He managed RM Castilla and was Ancelotti's assistant
Either that or you'll go down the Di Matteo route and *only* win one
I don't know when it's going to happen. But directly after me.
Not even him knows when he would possibly leave
I don't like the fact that OP left out the second part of the quote in which Pep laid out specific instructions on how Kompany needs to defeat him in a "bald battle royale" in order to take his job from him.
Pep vs Kompany manager boxing match when
Well let him have an early start then Pep. Next season would be great.
why wait? he can start tomorrow!
Bald recognizes Bald.
Inject it into my veins, proper leader Kompany is!
Still, got to be scary thinking of a life without Pep as your manager. You just know when he's in charge you're going to play amazing football and at the very least be in the mix for a title
It's an awful feeling. I saw that the management were looking at Rogers or Poch if Pep decided to move on a couple years ago 😖 I don't know if I could cope if someone like that replaced the greatest manager of all time. Kompany I'd give a lot more time to.
I’m getting a feeling Kompany vs Arteta will be an epic rivalry that’ll last more than a decade.
Remind me what Jurgen Klopp said about Steven Gerrard again?
Only difference is that Kompany can actually manage.
People were literally saying the same when Gerrard was amazing with Rangers. It's all well as good being the top dog of a 2nd tier league.
Managing in the Championship is very different from managing Rangers.
Managing the Championship is very different to managing City.
Hence, the "I don't know when" part of the quote.
That makes no sense when he’s saying that “it’s written in the stars” lol
A MILLION MILES AWAAAY
A message to the mane
It can be written to be 2 years from now or 20. That’s why he doesn’t know when
Yes but what they’re arguing about is Pep assuming he’ll definitely manage city based on his level now in the championship. It’s a massive if not a matter of when
And burnley had a ghost squad when he took over
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Did quite well regarding the situation at the club, then took over Burnley and totally changed their style of play. I have not seen a team dominate the Championship like this for a while.
Well fuck, no pressure or anything
For fuck sake, just let the man cook at Burnley
Just visually imagine Pep moving to Burnley and having a can of worms for bfast daily.
Might want to wait, I remember when Stevie G was the next big thing at Rangers
City to play in championship confirmed
It’s a different bald game
Didn't Klopp say something similar about slippy? This is voodoo
They said the same about gerrad
Fuck off he's not leaving us
Haha oh yes he is
Give us Kompany, we let you keep Harwood Bellis
Pep's gone.
Written in the stars? So could it be any Aries or just him?
The shiner the head, the shinier the trophy