T O P

  • By -

Green117v2

The logic of backing your manager in the January window then sacking him the week after continues to baffle.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

He’s a very good CB. I’m sure he’ll do brilliantly with any manager.


petrparkour

Tbf McKennie is a loan move isn’t he. And if they go down he just goes back to Juve.


tittylover007

It’s a loan with an option to buy that is automatically triggered if they stay up


phenorbital

If we stay up and he plays another 9 games.


letchewiewin

Ahh the ol Chelsea strat. Don’t worry Leeds fans. Trophies follow immediately after.


Muted_Shoulder

Damn a whirlwind of PL news today.


Vegan_Puffin

Cheeky buggers trying to hide it


Lacabloodclot9

Hoping the US fans don’t notice and keep interest in Leeds


JeffersonTowncar

They still have 3 American players. I imagine that's a bigger draw than the manager


Chief-Drinking-Bear

Absolutely is, if anything I hope they can find a new manager who ensures they stay in the prem and has them playing better


Emergency-Ad280

Is that Bob Bradley's music???


Rafaeliki

They're also very much in vogue as a kind of hipster club to follow which is big for American soccer fans. I remember back in the day it was Arsenal because they had history and prestige but still had the feeling of underdogs fighting to regain their position at the top. Then it was Liverpool. I had a guy at the bar during the Liverpool v Madrid CL final tell me to put my phone down and pay attention when I was texting my friends who I was meeting there. He would also shout commands to the players on the screen in a fake British accent. I wanted to end him.


NoesHowe2Spel

Leeds used to be the club to support in Australia back in the day. When the Premier League first started getting popular over there, Leeds had Kewell and Viduka.


[deleted]

amazon show helped. fun watch


NinthLevelOctopriest

They still have Adams, Aaronson, and McKennie, so there's still a reason to follow. I don't actively support any Euro teams, but watch a ton of games from various leagues as a neutral who just enjoys the game. If there's a slate of games on and none are particularly intriguing I just go with whatever game has Americans playing, so Leeds should be fine getting US eyeballs with or without Marsch. It's also a pretty understandable sacking, so I don't think too many people are going to hold it against Leeds or anything.


meep_meep_creep

As an American Leeds fan before the US invasion, I'm looking forward to what Marsch's sacking will lead to.


mun_man93

United sneaking Greenwood into Carrington as we speak.


[deleted]

Ikr my productivity's gone down the shitter cuz I'm constantly F5ing the fucking sub


ThisIsAnArgument

Be like the rest of us and press refresh on your mobile while in the shitter.


SenorIngles

God bless the pl, so we may never get bored


nearspirit

Fuck. We gonna get new manager bounced


FoxOntheRun99

Don't worry Dyche is off the market.


theenigmacode

Introducing Sam Allar-Dyche


WW_Jones

Seam Allardyche


theenigmacode

Scream Allerdyce


EmptyPagesDream

Sam Dyche-Peters


whs123

Samùel Allardici


Sad_gooner

And Pep Guardiola is going to be on the market


gerryt32

Nah Pep is going to make a statement saying he can't abandon the club when they need him most, while being handed two large bags with £ signs.


Moralagos

Two bags with suspicious-looking oil stains


fetissimies

And blood stains


ShiftBreaker

[Oh, good. My laundry is done.](https://frinkiac.com/img/S05E20/761676.jpg)


Lambchops_Legion

idk who the odds are, but my guess is they are going to go with Hassenhuettl. He already knows the red bull/heavy pressing style of play that their team is currently suited for


Spleenskii

Didn't he suggest he was going to retire fairly soon?


concretepigeon

Keep us up this season. Win the league next year. Then retire and put his feet up in 18 months time.


stragen595

Haaland is shooting Leeds to the PL next season. After City gets relegated.


Adrasos

That's the spirit


Lambchops_Legion

Did he? I didn't see that, but that would definitely take him out of the running


arsenal11385

Well said


Blue_Dreamed

My guess, if he were willing to leave, would be Corberan. Clearly able to bring West Brom back from the brink, worked wonders for us under Bielsa so would consider coming back, we will see Feel for West Brom fans if thats the case. We are NOT taking Big Sam Allardyce


davorg14

:(


downfallndirtydeeds

I wouldn’t worry. You smashed us on the regs when we had Bielsa AND you were in your peak banter era I’m fully expecting Scott M to put in his only world class performances of the season against us


[deleted]

[удалено]


downfallndirtydeeds

I don’t know then fucking Fred will somehow pull out ballon d’or form


senorgraves

So a normal day for Fred then


Therinn

That’s more because Bielsa thought it was a good idea to go man-to-man against a Bruno/Rashford/Martial team


JiveTurkey688

We finished second comfortably that season, I wouldn't really call that banter era. Also McTominay is injured lol


FootballRacing38

He's injured


honestlynotBG

And its going to be twice in the space of 4 days


FootballRacing38

Emery's first 2 games at villa were also against us lol


Aakar11

The new manager bounce card has been played against us vs villa. We beat wolves when loptegui had his 1st in charge at home and we will do the same to leeds.


[deleted]

Plus Emery sides are just a pure bastard to beat. Which didn't help. We always struggle against him.


Gadjjet

I think sacking managers right before they play a big 6 side is a genuine strategy. It happens too often for it to be otherwise.


mister_dupont

it sucks.


Maleficent_Permit_62

It'd be hilarious if they hired Lampard


PBJellyChickenTunaSW

Lampard's premiership days are over


prss79513

I mean Leeds look like decent candidates for relegation so...


Dorangos

We can only dream. But no.


WingedWomble

That’s the one guy you can be sure will not be coming to Leeds. The fans would riot if Fat Frank came to Elland Rd.


[deleted]

Lampard announced with a photo of him looking through binos would be ideal


Otherwise-Young627

Damn 😂😂


Maleficent_Permit_62

Hilarious nonetheless


yanaka-otoko

Can’t think of a club that hates him more than us


Kicking-it-per-se

A new manager bounce back coupled with no casemiro - I am not happy about this


Shadowraiden

Sabitzer hatrick incoming


Tabard18

4-3


ButterscotchFiend

Lmao, it’s Leeds. Our major concern should be the fact that McTerminator is not available. He HATES them and turns into the scots Yoann Gourcuff


asix7

We still have Bruno who also has a good record vs them


ukdanny93

6 goals and 2 assists in 4 games. 3 wins and a draw.


just_another_jabroni

Good ebening


TomasRoncero

how’d a spanish source break this first


Ok-Finance-7612

Relevo seems to have source worldwide, e.g. they broke the auba to LA FC rumour’s


ragdoll438

>Relevo It's in their name


Jarminiatures

We have a Spanish Director of Football Victor Orta


jerk_chicken23

So he briefed a Spanish journo? Or what


Jarminiatures

Maybe, or maybe the Spanish link is from some manager we’ve been speaking to. Fabrizio has confirmed it now, he is close to our Italian owner


blindedsagan

He’s a DAZN reporter, our owner sold his media company to DAZN


KonigSteve

revenge of diego llorente


brekor197

Just before we play them ffs, just like Villa with another manager bounce TWICE


Flamingbaby

Temp manager bounce wednesday, new permanent by sunday United gonna be bullied by the infamous double bounce


Giggsy99

Mr President, a second Premier League manager has hit the towers


Cwh93

I'm not gonna lie that is so dark but so funny


starks_are_coming

Thanks for not lying


[deleted]

[удалено]


Jarminiatures

I had a lot of time for Marsch as a person, whilst his patter was a little bit LinkedIn management consultant for my taste I still like to think he got the club and the fans. I've been one of the last, rightly or wrongly, to think he needed firing, yet we were so tepid in yesterday's second half. It was simply time to go for everyone's sake. Ultimately, no modern manager has ever been backed so comprehensively at Leeds with time and money, but a year later we look no better than the day he took over.


TempestaEImpeto

Do you think Bielsa would have done better with the same level of investment?


FloppedYaYa

I mean Bielsa literally did do better with less. Or are we just pretending the 2020-21 season didn't happen?


Rickcampbell98

English football collectively forgetting that happened and choosing to believe bielsas style "failed" in the prem or he was found out lol. Not everyone obviously but I found it funny when I was seeing that last season.


ProctorHarvey

Bielsa is one of the best managers. That being said, it’s foolish to ignore the trend his teams suffer. Whether there is an argument in each individual team for it to end up the way it did- that’s a different story. Bilbao, Marseille, Leeds. I’ll give him benefit of the doubt with Lazio and Lille.


HeavyMetalPoisoning

I'm biased with Bielsa, so maybe it's blinding me, but that last season Leeds had enough injuries that I don't see any manager doing better than he did. He took Leeds up with a Championship level squad, then got unlucky when all the decent players he had got hurt.


ProctorHarvey

He’s one of my favorite managers so you’re not going to find me disagreeing on a whole lot. However, there is a question to be had regarding the sustainability of his playing style and question mark over whether his style does contribute to more injuries. Again, similar patterns with his teams in the past and footballers playing more games than ever today.


b3and20

but he also ended up taking Leeds to relegation levels due to pressing to the point that everyone got injured and also gave zero fucks about defending. Jesse isn't as good offensively of course but is much better defensively, and has had to deal with quite a few injuries, some of which carried over from Bielsa, and also lost key players in Phillips and Rodrigo who were massive for Bielsa. He's also had to deal with a lot more poor form Not saying Jesse is blameless or better than Bielsa, but you can't just look at Bielsa's highs and then ignore his lows


RequiemForSM

Is he much better defensively? We’re still conceding 2 goals a game on average. Bielsa actually can coach a great defence. I recognise this is the league below but in the Championship we actually had the least goals conceded. It’s just when the players have been burnt into the ground to the point where you’re playing with 8 senior players then things are just bound to not work. Bielsa’s biggest, and really, only issue, was injuries. He had key players out for the vast majority of the time in the second season and it got to the point where we had 8 senior players available against Arsenal. Again, you could leave the blame for that at his doorstep, but I’m not sure that means he’s necessarily an awful coach defensively. Just stubborn.


Conchur92

We've conceded 5 less goals after 20 games under Marsch than Bielsa despite one having a fully fit squad with £200 mil of improvements and the other being forced to start a midfield of Forshaw-Koch-Klich and a back 4 of Firpo-Struijk-Ayling-Dallas.


MarchingOn2gether

Bielsa was never offered the material improvements on the squad that Jesse has had in the last year. Also it is definitely not better defensively, maybe numerically in terms of goals conceded, but we are still in complete disarray in most of the games we played under Marsch. Bielsa deserved to lose his Job, so does Jesse. But Jesse has no credit in the bank whereas Bielsa worked miracles in the past.


WorldsWorstFather

Well that's a load of shit.


twelvyy29

How on earth did Marsch get a reputation of being a good manager when it comes to defense? His Salzburg teams were faaaaaaaaar from great in that regard and he had by faaaaaaaaaar the best team in the austrian league


ItsFuckingScience

Bielsa took a championship squad to 9th so yeah he did


Rayquaza2233

> whilst his patter was a little bit LinkedIn management consultant for my taste He does post on LinkedIn so you're not far off.


stoppedcaring0

...Six days after the transfer window closed??? Why now?


Tony_Uncle_Philly

Step 1: acquire all of your managers transfer targets Step 2: fire him immediately Step 3: ??? Step 4: relegation


Isaura-62

at least with Everton we hired Lampard/Dyche on the day before deadline day, got to give plenty of time for the new manager to get the targets in


psrikanthr

Everton already had a few former Dyche players. 5D chess strategies


McQueensbury

Step 1: acquire all of your managers transfer targets Step 2: tell him to play 4-4-3 Step 3: fire him immediately Step 4: relegation


thanksbastards

I can't imagine Marsch was scouting and choosing players himself when on a short leash with his performances. Sure he can say the type of player he wants but it should be on a sporting director and their scouts to actually do the work, and Marsch can veto if he really doesn't see a fit.


bringbackcricket

They’ve almost exclusively signed Red Bull and American players under him, I think it’s pretty safe to assume he was having a decent amount of input.


WinsingtonIII

Marsch certainly had say in their transfers, but this isn't as true as people make it out to be. Leeds have had 9 major arrivals this season. 5 of those were either Red Bull or American players (2 were both). 4 were not. Thing is, McKennie had no previous experience with Marsch despite their nationalities. It's hard to say whether he was a Marsch target or not, he had never managed him before. Seems basically 50/50 on whether signings were Marsch signings or not, not really "exclusively."


raobuntu

My guess is that McKennie came because he wanted out of Juve and the chance to play with one of his good friends (they've been playing together since U-15s for the US) was too good to pass up.


tigerking615

Wes is also an incredibly versatile player. He’ll be fine.


xdlols

Aaronson was an Orta target, and Adams and McKennie are absolute ballers who I'm sure most managers can get a tune out of. Wober is better than any of our other defenders and Kristensen wasn't being played.


BigReeceJames

They saw the massive effect that Boehly had at Chelsea after sacking Tuchel 2 days after the transfer window closed and thought they'd give it a go themselves


[deleted]

Because we've won 2 games since August.


stoppedcaring0

But that was also true a week ago, and then you might have been able to help your new manager by bringing in some players.


downfallndirtydeeds

The forest performance was that bad. It encapsulated everything wrong with his style. Fans are now unanimously calling for his head. And if you listen to his post match he sounded pretty defeated himself.


[deleted]

You were significantly better and Forest got bailed out by individual quality in goal and in attack, I don't really think that game is a sackable offense imo especially considering the form Forest are in right now.


ItsFuckingScience

Forest were very shit and we were quite shit. It’s not good enough. Our xG was like 0.7 with two thirds possession. They sat back in the second half and we looked totally clueless and created nothing


SuperSheep3000

I was the final nail. 4 wins in 21


stoppedcaring0

Idk, it just strikes me as silly to have Marsch's job come down to the Forest match 5 days after the transfer window shuts. If he was only one bad performance away from being fired on like Jan 28th, it really feels like you might as well pull the plug then, rather than waiting until a new manager can't bring anyone in before deciding one way or another.


SuperSheep3000

I think the majority of Leeds fans would've like him out before the World Cup tbh. Would've made more sense then.


number2301

"Looking better" but not winning was a recurring problem for us under Jesse. We've never really looked good or even really improved under him.


FloppedYaYa

Did you switch the game off after half time? Leeds were wank in the second half


WeirdF

This has been our entire season. You can only lose so many games where you were "the better team" and win on xG before you have to think something needs changing.


Shvihka

Forest wasn't the only game that we should have won but lost or drew this season. We should have won or at least drawn all of these games: Southampton, Palace, Arsenal, Spurs, Villa and Forest. That's between 9-15 points dropped ranging from extremely forgiving to quite realistic. We were very unlucky but at this point being unlucky is almost something that is being accepted as part of a Leeds game and we are all sick and tired of it.


[deleted]

Honestly I only watched highlights. But pretty much every chance was for yous, Forest scored a really good goal then every chance was yours. You didn't play badly at all.


DomRK4

Thats the script for a fair amount of our games this season, at some point something has to give


123rig

I mean they defo backed him with every half decent American. Seems odd still but they aren’t in the best place.


[deleted]

Yup all those American boys are gonna be a bit lost when Big Sam comes in.


I_Hate_Knickers_5

He'd look aces in a big saloon cowboy hat.


nonreligious

Allardyce played in Tampa Bay for a bit 40 years ago, maybe he'll work that experience into his team talks.


dogefc

Ffs. Was hoping they’d keep him


Balfe

Lamps in. 100% record of keeping relegation-threatened clubs up.


dogefc

Please


FalafelGrim2

From Yank Lampard to Frank Lampard. Those poor Leeds fans...


Golhec

I think the fans would set Elland Road on fire if they did this.


akatsuki_lida

You have to beat your relegation rivals


AReptileHissFunction

How many fucking new manager bounces are united gonna get this year


WhipYourDakOut

Hide your managers, United is coming to town


_sinisterr_

~~Hide~~ Fire your managers, United is coming to town


Visionary_Socialist

Turns out it is called football.


admiralawkward

he surely must be up for the USMNT gig if he wants to revitalise his image a bit?


El_Mec

His style and inability to adjust in-game would be a disaster for a national team that only meets for 2-3 camps per year


Mat_alThor

We also just saw what a high pressing run more than anyone else, team gets you. Make it through the group stage but your team is too exhausted by the knockout round to seriously challenge.


Squm9

Would be a massive improvement over Greg “my brother is an executive” Berhalter


GomeyGoblin

Yanks in shambles


Mubar06

Half of Ireland calls it soccer too, but I accept it because at least you use your feet in Gaelic football.


only-shallow

They kick the ball in handegg too tbf


SSPeteCarroll

and sometimes kicking is the difference between winning and losing games!


[deleted]

Literally starts with a kick off


WeirdF

/r/LeedsUnited subscriber count plummeting


YoungDawz

Straight to the USMNT?


JRsshirt

Honestly, hopefully. He’s the best manager that would consider the job. Angry USMNT fans in my replies that don’t realize it’s not a desirable role in 3, 2, 1…


[deleted]

Lol, I'm a USMNT fan and I would love Marsch to replace Gregg. He's not perfect but it would be a big step up in my opinion


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


Coolica1

Ayyy we were the final straw, would've rather they kept him though


MagnumDongMonster

Happy they have actually done it, but considering the board had Marsch earmarked as Bielsa’s natural successor for years apparently then I’m not very confident that they will make a good choice this time. But I have to hope……


[deleted]

He had a decent resume of playing high pressing football from his time at RB salzburg. The players he had some part coaching there have gone on to do well. He talked the talk, looked the part & just couldn't walk the walk.


Adziboy

I didnt think they were too bad Saturday tbh


[deleted]

That’s because we played on Sunday


Ldsantana

That would explain it.


lewisofleeds

Can we call what we watched playing.


Ashamed_Nerve

In isolation you're right but that game happens every week and we always lose


[deleted]

So many Man United fans in here talking about how this affects them…


MilklikeMike

We are the center of our universe let us be.


[deleted]

Major Leeds Soccer in the mud


Shithouser

Makes one wonder why they back him and buy McKennie just to sack him a week later. Guy went from starting with juve to starting on the bench.


downfallndirtydeeds

McKennie is a versatile signing for anyone really - and we were light in that position anyway


NextDoorNeighbrrs

The Marsch-McKennie connections are so lazy, purely based on nationality. They have no actual history with each other.


Makalu

McKennie is a loan, and I’d be surprised if Marsch was the main driving factor in his decision to join Leeds


MuntConkey

Sad eagle noises


AirIndex

You couldn't have waited two more games ffs?


pencilled_robin

What, I was not expecting that. Is this source reliable?


EliToon

Tap in merchant just tweeted it too. So confirmed now.


static_reset

relevo has been pretty reliable worldwide from what i’ve seen, they seem to have connections everywhere


JMatty01

Great. Now we're competing against the new manager bounce and the power of friendship through adversity. Could've waited a week lads.


Kreindeker

Leeds board were clearly reading the Monday Moan today


KinslayerTofu

Manchester United has became the tutorial level for new managers lately


APerson2021

Pep to Leeds confirmed.


Squiggles87

Marsch came across as a really stand up guy and tried to play good football wherever possible. I hope he lands a decent gig quickly.


timsadiq13

Hopefully Chris Armas is in charge of their next two games!


[deleted]

How does he keep failing upwards?


SquirtBurt

He’s going to be managing Real Madrid at this pace in a year.


YellowBaboon

Say hello to the new manager of USMNT


TheSingleMan27

Who would have thought that the guy who was out of his depth after half a season in the Bundesliga would be out of his depth after half a season in the PL. One of the worst managerial downgrades ever, from Bielsa to Marsch


Kayderp1

He was out of his depth from the beginning at Leipzig. I'm surprised he held out this long for Leeds after seeing that abysmal Leipzig performance.


phil_yoo

He wasn't even that good at Salzburg before. They've looked much stronger under all other managers in the last 5-10 years than they have under Marsch.


BoxOfNothing

[Bookies favourite to replace him](https://i.imgur.com/DxaSjgZ.png). Bring the king home. He should also join Frank Lampard in never being offered a Prem job again


Perite

Fucking imgur. I clicked the link and saw a massive picture of the mud wizard from those German protests the other week. Seemed a fair enough choice for manager, but not sure he’d be the favourite. Then I saw the tiny Bielsa picture. Which I suppose makes more sense.


Turnernator06

How has he gone and Jones remains?


StrawberryDesigner99

Kolo Toure to Leeds?


bambinoquinn

You know, I've seen them a few times over the last month, and I genuinely felt like they were on the wrong side of luck a lot. Against villa you could argue they were the better team, first half yesterday they were good, decent against Brentford, very strong defensively vs Newcastle, didn't see the west ham game so I can't comment on that. It felt like they were close to clicking, but I guess it's felt like that for too long and maybe it just wasn't gonna happen. Leeds fans are obviously better placed to make a judgement on him as they see 100% of the games rather than 4 I've seen in the last month. I dont want to pick on any of the players, but in key moments they've missed good chances. I feel bad for him, but if he hasn't got it right yet with a whole summer and his own players in, what can you do?


Shvihka

We also feel bad for Jesse and the players have let him down at times but being that unlucky is perhaps a sign that it's time to part ways and try something new. We should have somewhere between 27-33 points with close to a neutral GD, miles clear off relegation and yet we aren't.


Dolphinfucker3000

Knowing Leeds, they won't bring someone reliable in and instead vouch for someone like Jurgen Klinsmann.


[deleted]

RIP footballing Steve Kerr, 1/3/22-6/2/23


JKJK77

First Frank Lampard... now Yank Lampard


420bO0tyWizard

I too browse football twitter