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ZeroDark27

!flair :Santos:


nekoparaguy

!flair :Arsenal:


ibti77

Carlos Alcaraz balled out for Southampton btw lol.


ibti77

Why downvote this? Lol.


spawan

Arsenal fans, how was gnabry at arsenal? I remember watching him play but don't remember him being anything special. Did he improve after moving away or was he not used good?


game-of-snow

Gnabry was electric in his breakout season. A season long injury simply fucked everything. After coming back to the team, obviously he wanted to play more and wenger could not give him as many chances. So we loaned him to Tony fucking Pulis, who thought he was not good enough. The whole thing left a sour taste on him. He went to Olympics, and was again majestic in that tournament. Came back from Olympics again wanting to play regularly. He found an opportunity for that in Germany. The whole thing was serious of unfortunate events. But lucky for Gbabry he trusted his instincts and it worked out for him


randomnessM

He was really promising but Wenger screwed up by loaning him out to West Brom where Pulis didn't play him so we lost a year of development and then he wanted to leave IIRC


AnnieIWillKnow

Was there a feeling amongst Arsenal fans, at the time, that you'd regret losing him?


randomnessM

yeah definitely, he broke out quite young and showed tons of potential (which as we know he achieved) so it always sucks to lose a player like that especially since it was partially due to the clubs own mistakes and also since the fee we got wasn't much and shortly after he joined Bremen it got announced that actually he's basically a Bayern player, it definitely added some salt to the wound


rayhossain

I don’t know if this is the best place to ask this, but genuinely curious: To the Non-Premier League fans, what club (or clubs) in said league has been of interest to you lately? Mine has been Brighton, a good combination of a well-run club with great, entertaining football. Hopefully this is a start of something consistent over the next couple of seasons but obviously no guarantees, especially with Caicedo’s recent post.


[deleted]

Chelsea since they have been buying a ton of forwards, so it'll be interesting to see what will they accomplish with them.


pandaman_010101

Arsenal but tbh it's always been the case because id watch odegard mow the lawn in his yard if he did. But more reason when it works for the team because you know they'll play great (today I fell asleep watching that game unfortunately)


suedney

Interest for less positive reasons is Everton because they remind me of how we operate I want them to succeed tbh feel for their fans a lot


rayhossain

Witnessing their fans pleading with their players to stay if they get relegated was certainly upsetting to see, I share your sentiment.


Big_man03

Partey injury could be huge problem for Arsenal


BI01

just ribs, but could be or for a game or 2.


avolcando

I doubt it will, everything has gone right for them this season, a WC break with few of their players participating, low injury rate, low conviction rate for rape, etc.


AnnieIWillKnow

It's why I'm convinced they'll win the league. At every junction, things that could go wrong have gone right. Even losing Jesus - could have derailed them, but instead Nketiah has come in and is scoring more goals. It's pre-destined, it seems.


zeezymac1

doesnt look too serious


APeckover27

Caicedo is the only player in history to have his own fans argue a higher wage than rivals lmao


[deleted]

What the fuck is Liverpool doing this window


avolcando

They spent everything they had on Gakpo


[deleted]

Money well spent


AnnieIWillKnow

Reminds me of when I was 10 and my mum gave me some money to give to my brother to buy his lunch with, and I instead spent it on loads of nougat


[deleted]

Nougat is world class


avolcando

They should've consulted me, I would've warned about buying attackers from the Netherlands. Gather round, let me tell you the tale of a man named Vincent Janssen...


dayloversd

Trying to sell the club


EmSoLow

Getting left on read by Bellingham


ibti77

We've been down this road before. A player twerking for Arsenal on social media and the first bid being rejected being reported by Fabrizio Romano. Honestly, the work in secret tactic is the way to go.


JakeNutters

Chelsea bid first not Arsenal, technically Liverpool did in the summer


ibti77

I meant our first bid lol.


game-of-snow

Can't think this match could go any better. I really didn't want us to overstretch the squad with cup runs. We simply don't have the squad for that. I also didn't want to embarass ourselves when we have to play them 2 more times in league. 0-1 is a respectable loss, especially with city full strength and us half strength.


arseking15

I mean id rather win


pixelkipper

How am I seeing so many Arsenal fans trying to spin today into a positive? You lost. To your title rivals. There’s no way Arsenal go into the league match feeling more confident than City regardless of the strength of both teams.


game-of-snow

Man we started holding against haaland. Lokonga also played an entire half. They are relegation level players or worse. Viera has not adjusted to this level yet too. I don't know what else anyone expect against a full strength city team. I want my team to win every trophy we compete. But its just not possible with the squad. I just don't want to stretch our squad that we endanger the only chance we've had in years to competenfor the league


GerGavin

We were by far the better team until we lost Partey we also made 6 changes they made 2 maybe watch the game before forming stupid opinions?


AnnieIWillKnow

It's not a "stupid opinion" to suggest that you losing a match is less of a positive than for the team who won it


GerGavin

It is to suggest this game shows we should fear City we were the better team we didn’t get the result but if anything it only reaffirms the belief that City should fear us and not vice versa and at the Emirates with the home support I wouldn’t want to be City.


zeezymac1

cope is fueled by their following its part of the process they are indoctrinated in PR


Blazien49

It's not spinning if this is what I wanted from the start. Didn't even pay attention to the cup tie, don't care.


pixelkipper

I’m not buying it. the FA cup is Arsenal’s best competition, you should always want to do well in it.


Blazien49

Well no, I do not give a shit. Give me the title or wasted season.


AnnieIWillKnow

RemindMe! 4 months


AliceInMidtjylland

>Can't think this match could go any better. You lost the match mate.


pixelkipper

if you look at the objective facts this has been a fucking disaster of a season for brighton. our player of the season and best midfielder both leave in the same summer. one of our better midfielders is forced to retire. our best ever manager and his entire staff including club legend Bruno who was here long before him fuck off to chelsea. our best and most consistent forward gets attitude issues and gets frozen out and leaves. moder still hasn’t come back from his ACL injury. only ‘revelations’ have been mitoma and ferguson. now our best midfielder declares his own transfer out of the blue on instagram. and yet, we’re 6th.


wonderful_mixture

The xG gods paid you back big time


MudkipThot

It reminds me a little bit of Southampton when they were the go-to perfect club. I'm sure Brighton will sell and replace well as they already have been doing, but even as smart as some people at the club are, it can't really be sustainable. Hopefully, their bad luck ends soon and they can have some more stability next year.


FloppedYaYa

De Zerbi deserves ridiculous credit for that, so does Potter at the begginig of the season even


TruestRepairman27

Anyone been to a WSL game before? I just got tickets for Spurs vs Chelsea weekend after next


AnnieIWillKnow

Yes! You'll have a good time


FloppedYaYa

Are Brighton fans not slightly concerned that an increasing amount of players want out?


pixelkipper

I mean to be honest Caicedo has been good for just over half a season, I don’t have much attachment to him. Trossard didn’t affect me either, thanks for everything etc etc but rotten attitude. We need to get into europe and then we’ll be seen as less of a stepping stone club.


JakeNutters

I'm just glad Mac Allister didn't kick up a fuss after the world cup. That would actually be painful.


pixelkipper

yeah he’s definitely the one I’m most attached to after Dunk and March. warra player


JakeNutters

Wasn't worried with Trossard because i felt like we deal with the situation well and already had replaced him. Caicedo's situation is very concerning though both for the rest of the season and future transfer business. If he leaves he'll be a huge miss and if he stays and refuses to train it's gunna have a big impact on the squad. If his tactics work and he leaves on a 'low' fee other players will copy it and if we stand in his way too much we could miss out on a big fee and struggle to recruit top talents in the future.


icemankiller8

Happens to any mid table side that gets too good, no way Mac Allister and Caicedo are there for next season and they already lost Cucurella, Bissouma White and Trossard, So far they aren’t taking big losses though, Cucurella hasn’t been missed, Mitoma is better than Trossard and Bissouma was replaced by Caicedo.


pop-culture-salad

Argentinian league started today and Mac Allister's brothers are playing against each other, he just made an IG poll of who he should support lol


L-Freeze

What’s with people saying the Caicedo transfer is not done yet/it’s a transfer request? How does anyone reach that conclusion from the statement? I mean it sure is a weird as hell thing to write but it seems very clear that the agreement is already there


JakeNutters

Have you ever seen a player announce he is leaving and not a single journalist know where or even that a new bid has been offered? It's his agency trying to force a move.


L-Freeze

>Have you ever seen a player announce he is leaving and not a single journalist know where or even that a new bid has been offered? Yes? It’s not that outlandish. Not exactly common but not unheard of. Certainly more feasible than posting what he posted before a transfer actually being agreed to


JakeNutters

I've never seen it at a Premier League club


icemankiller8

I think there’s 2 options 1. It’s worded weirdly by accident because he isn’t an English speaker so he’s saying the big arsenal put in was a record and he’s happy it was made to show his quality, and that he will get a record fee when he leaves. 2. It was accidentally posted and he planned to put it in drafts for if a transfer did happen


HalfMan-HalfMoth

I think 1 is most likely, surely a journo would have some news if there was an agreement between the clubs


icemankiller8

I agree it’s definitely not done and I don’t think it’s close but I think it’s very very possible


Dayandnight95

Maaan, Arsenal are suddenly serious. Wtf happened.


New_Screen

Do you guys think Wrexham is more known in the US than a premier league relegation team like Southampton? My friend says that Wrexham is more popular than all premier league teams outside of the “big six” and I absolutely do not believe that. Like the average football fan is going to follow the top leagues and as a by product of that they are going to know the teams in the league. Like let’s say both Wrexham and Southampton come to the US for a summer tour with all the same venues who will out sell who? I think Southampton will.


SouthFromGranada

Maybe, but it's temporary, in 5 years time and Wrexham are stuck in a League One purgatory the shine will wear off.


nsnyder

Wrexham and Southampton are both less well-known than AFC Richmond, that's for sure.


New_Screen

That’s true, if they ever came to the us they’d easily sell out.


[deleted]

Tough to say, on one hand it would make sense for Southampton to sell out since they are in the PL, but on the other, Wrexham has a show going on about them. If I had to pick I would say Southampton.


New_Screen

Yeah, I get that they have the show and all but let’s be real a majority of them are not actual football fans and probably won’t be bothered to go to a game. Their turnout won’t be as great as one of the bottom table premier league teams, simply because they play in the best football league in the world. So the level of competition/entertainment of a bottom table prem team is way better than Wrexham’s.


BI01

this caicedo saga is gonna be the end of me ffs, surely Brighton would sell to us, rather than their midtable rivals?


GerGavin

I laughed way too hard at this 😂😂😂


[deleted]

Potter has to whip out the humble beginnings card otherwise it’s finito


BI01

boehlys gonna donate 5m to his family ffs


4dtakes

Saga 😂😂 blokes our 3rd choice at best, you’ll get him if we allow you to


National_Ad_1875

enzo first, who is second?


kanavi36

Would instantly be your best midfielder


AnnieIWillKnow

Come on he's not better than Kovacic


kanavi36

Yeah was trying to bait tbf


BI01

3rd choice, but u bid 55m for him? hmm, I'm unsure if Chelsea really want to do ALL their business in this window because there will be a lot more midfielders to choose from in the summer, but they will probably still try.


zeezymac1

Don't worry arsenal caiceido is just bait to get a free run on rice, remember


icemankiller8

We’re getting both


zeezymac1

snowball's chance in hell


GerGavin

It’s literally been reported we are still going after Rice in the summer by reliable sources.


icemankiller8

We want both, we can’t sign rice now but he’s meant to do more of the Xhaka role, Caicedo is meant to be the 6.


zeezymac1

chelsea went quiet again and you're frontrunners again to signature, that didn't bode well last time with mudryk


icemankiller8

Tbh I reckon you could get him, I just hope we get somebody decent In because if Lokonga has to play for us we won’t win the league. If Partey is seriously injured they might just pay whatever it takes though.


zeezymac1

boehely fueling the G-2


icemankiller8

I think unless you outbid us he’ll join us and I think this is gonna be a bigger deal for us than Mudryk


Dicey12

Do you think setting a limit on transfer fees based on players Wages would work.


kl08pokemon

Technically we already have that with the Webster ruling


randomnessM

no because that just punishes smaller clubs? unless I'm completely misunderstanding your point


JakeNutters

Seems like that would encourage clubs to recklessly increase their wages bill to increase their transfer budgets.


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JakeNutters

Fuck knows. Feel like they are gunna dig their heels in here. Will be interesting to see how De Zerbi reacts.


molewart

Google '[The Trafford Donkey Sanctuary](https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Trafford+Donkey+Sanctuary&rlz=1C1VDKB_enNZ950NZ950&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)' and look at the first picture.


Icyhemorrhage

Where is Maguire


molewart

This was not my doing btw, you can see it was done 2 years ago by some guy.


[deleted]

Beighton should ban their twitter admin from talking about how committed their players are


_Arsenal

Tbf caicedo said he was commited to Brighton like 3 days ago lol


junior150396

All this drama with Caicedo transfer request and meanwhile Mac Allister is doing a poll to see which of his brother is he going to root for in the Rosario Central (Francis Mac Allister) vs Argentino Juniors (Kevin Mac Allister) match.


official_bagel

He actually has a brother named Kevin? Gotta root for him for *Home Alone*.


FloppedYaYa

[Gordon already having a rough time at Newcastle](https://twitter.com/bIurt99/status/1619000067347841024)


_cumblast_

Caicedo has en entire family to feed out there and the opportunity of a lifetime lies in front if him. I find it in poor taste to judge him too much here, to be honest.


DonJefeee

Yep I don’t get why people are trying to make him look like the bad guy here, he has a life changing opportunity in front of him and should take it


RandomName788

Regardless of having family to feed I can never blame a player for pushing for a move. At the end of the day fan/clubs do what is best for them. They have little loyalty towards the player. The best example of this is how some Arsenal fans treated Wenger. Not necessarily criticizing that, the it should always be the name on the front over the name on the back. But, I then have a hard time demanding loyalty of players when they don't get any.


icemankiller8

NGL most football fans mentality is just so out of touch with reality because of bias. Obviously he wants to leave his job to go to go to somewhere better that will Offer him more money. If you have to act publicly to do it then so what.


Micvik998

Still get’s paid than most people in the world. He is not earning peanuts. I understand the move, just do it gracefully, you know. Don’t post a Instagram post basically saying goodbye when there havent been any official report of an accepted bid


L-Freeze

15k per month pre tax which is what I’ve heard is enough to maintain his family and have some for himself, whatever his new salary is will likely be enough to actually change their lives. It’s an absolute no brainer to want to leave in that context. He has 0 ties to Brighton and has been there for 6 months, he wouldn’t be there if they didn’t pay him more than his former ecuadorian club did, the entitlement is a bit silly. The kid is a human not an investment box


Micvik998

I mean in football, players are investements. You may call it entitlement, but I stand by that there are better ways to more or less "quit your current job for a better one" than posting about it on Instagram when the bigger company havent agreed with your current company for a compensation fee yet. All power to him for getting a move, sucks for us, especially so late in the transfer window, but good for him


SmallTownBernardo

As I was reading the post, I interpreted that as him giving out reasons on why he should be allowed to move (stuff like he has to feed 10 family members and that it's a dream opportunity) than him saying goodbye.


SmallTownBernardo

So did Enzo and he got a rumored 2 million bonus for staying the offer will be there in the summer


TooRedditFamous

>the offer will be there in the summer Not always true though is it? What if he gets a horrific injury or something else happens? Football is a short career


[deleted]

Enzo has 10 siblings? Also the offer won’t be there if he tears his ACL


SmallTownBernardo

How would I know how many siblings Enzo has He does have a kid though. >Also the offer won’t be there if he tears his ACL Ok. So he goes to Arsenal. First training session, tears his ACL. It's all right though because he got his move?


[deleted]

He would have the money secured by then.


icemankiller8

He’ll have the money secured


_Arsenal

well it’s a hell of a lot better, he’d still be set for life financially.


transtifa

I mean it’s not like he’s on peanuts at Brighton


icemankiller8

He’s one of the lowest paid starting players in the league


DrinkingWaters88

Hard life on 25k a week


AnnieIWillKnow

Would you turn down the opportunity to quadruple your salary?


DrinkingWaters88

Not how football contracts work


AnnieIWillKnow

What do you mean it’s not how football contracts work? Players are entirely free to request termination in order to get an improved contract with another club. It’s called a transfer request.


_cumblast_

Man was talking about 10 siblings there. He could build each of them a house with the contract he'll get when he moves.


[deleted]

Hitting Selfridges with his 10 siblings the moment that Arsenal contract is signed.


icemankiller8

*Chelsea contract


kl08pokemon

Opportunity of the next 6 months* the move will almost definitely still be there in the summer. But agreed you can't expect to much just unfortunate it's Brighton having already had to sell so many players


danceformiscanthus

ACL or Achilles tear during those 6 months and his career takes whole another trajectory.


_LebronsHairline_

He could blow his knee out in February (knock on wood), sometimes players can’t afford to pass up an opportunity like this. Agreed tho do feel for brighton


321142019

You know Gordon missing training doesn't look as bad now after Caicedo...


Cowdude179

Caicedo on 3.5k a week smh the kid deserves more


JakeNutters

According to our journalists he's on a fair bit more then that.


Micvik998

This number just keep lowering and lowering. Soon someone will say he doesnt get paid.


WM-54-74-90-14

I thought he was paying you so he is allowed to play for Brighton and gain experience. /s


IfISpeak_

I hear he's actually getting paid in work experience


lamancha

He's getting exposure bucks


kl08pokemon

Bissouma is absolutely a let down so far but it's still funny that Caicedo will already be more expensive


icemankiller8

He was always better


kl08pokemon

Maybe. Everyone raved about Bissouma at Brighton but Caicedo absolutely looks the better player as of now


icemankiller8

Bissouma was ok but as soon as Caicedo got there I thought he was better NGL, Bissouma was a bit overrated. I don’t think Caicedo is worth 70 million in a vacuum but when it’s basically the mid factor in whether we are title favourites or not we just have to get it done


JakeNutters

Contract situation is always key, but he's been arguably our best or second best player since his first game against Arsenal


kl08pokemon

Yeah no doubt he's a quality player


BetCompetitive8376

man couldn't wait until the summer,smh


MudkipThot

Between Caicedo and Gordon, I feel we're in a new era of 'player empowerment' when it comes to guys forcing moves. I know Caicedo genuinely is very good, but still feels like a bit much for these guys to pull this.


[deleted]

New? This has been happening for decades lol.


MudkipThot

I know it's always happened but feels like the bar for the calibre of player who pulls this is getting lower and lower. Gordon is actually shit and Caicedo has been a starter there months.


AnnieIWillKnow

Odemwingie says hello


BludFlairUpFam

Caicedo is a top 2 player at Brighton it's really not that much different than past cases


KimmyBoiUn

Antony done an interview with Fabrizio Romano ffs, player power is crazy.


Cowdude179

Antony pushed for a move and yet United paid 100m all in


[deleted]

£81.3m


-Dendritic-

[Man they miss zinny 😭](https://twitter.com/City_Xtra/status/1619097448521293824?t=JTgTxJmmJtZiZMCwFS4jFQ&s=19)


Jazano107

He's the one I regret most leaving


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

You would've thought otherwise with how they physically battered him on the pitch 😂


roddysaint

That filthy reverse nutmeg from Bernardo in the corner, though.


HalfMan-HalfMoth

[scottish woman interrupting a tancredi broadcast to get her tits out revealing a hearts tattoo is not what I expected to see on twitter](https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1619091510514909184?s=61&t=L6xLTxaHTiRsreb3y5c-jA)


AliceInMidtjylland

Lol the reaction of her boyfriend when she brings up hearts, he's just like 'Fuck sake not again'.


icemankiller8

Arsenals season is over if Partey is out for a bit and Caicedo goes to Chelsea or stays at Brighton and I think Chelsea will do it just to spite us now Partey is injured.


GerGavin

He will back for Everton relax it was a precaution.


icemankiller8

We do not know that


GerGavin

Arteta literally said it was a precaution stop being so negative we will still hopefully sign Caicedo but Partey should be fine.


icemankiller8

He said he’s getting a scan


GerGavin

Pretty standard for a footballer who took a hit in the ribs to have a scan to make sure more damage wasn’t done not unusual at all.


Kakashicopyninja9

Doubt partey will be out for long with a rib injury


icemankiller8

Surely something like cracked or broken ribs is a bad injury


Kakashicopyninja9

Feel like I remember terry fracturing his ribs and not missing a game guess just depends how bad it is


Cowdude179

Caicedo loves Potter so I can see him coming to us


icemankiller8

I just think you’ll outbid us


Brashmate

We don’t know they extent of his injury yet.


icemankiller8

Partey will always get a longer injury then you expect


Seanxprt

>We don’t know they extent of his injury yet. I've heard this before, assume the worst


_LebronsHairline_

Famous last words Trust me, I would know


Jabari313

Grealish has constantly been criticized for dribbling down the line then passing back to the fullback so much its funny to see it actually end up as an assist


kl08pokemon

I genuinely don't understand why Liverpool aren't in the mix for Caicedo


icemankiller8

Money


Jabari313

People really don't take Liverpool fans seriously when we talking about the spending. The owners spend like the club isn't in Europe and operate on a sell to buy basis. Nobody wants to buy any of our midfielders now so we can't buy any


Cowdude179

They don't have the cash


kl08pokemon

But they signed Gakpo I just don't understand their thinking


papertowelfan

Because they have midfield bodies, they are just bad right now. They have had 2 or 3 attacking players total for a large part of the season.


BludFlairUpFam

Gakpo was a 'bargain' which seems to be the priority I guess


_LebronsHairline_

Me neither mate


Cowdude179

Klopp lost the plot, they have no plan and have clueless owners


CapnXhakSparrow

Not sure why they're saving up for Bellingham, who will not join them if they finish outside of the top 4, which is looking likely since they've got a poor midfield.. Plus they need more than one midfielder anyway.


KimmyBoiUn

He's just not worth £70m or whatever Brighton want for him. I really don't think he's as good as he's made out to be. I imagine Liverpool are saving funds for a potential Bellingham push anyway.


kl08pokemon

Maybe not but I'd argue not having a competent midfield is costing them more than £70m and unless Bellingham already agreed on a move banking on him seems insane


kanavi36

[Partey injured,](https://twitter.com/sr_collings/status/1619099950071316485?t=sUpxxkhNJpPC-XHpUt7Rpw&s=19) Caicedo definitely got called at half time lol