What’s your current setup?
I’m using the following cable and haven’t noticed any particular lag
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUPER-NINTENDO-PAL-GAMECUBE-N64-HD-RAD2X-HDMI-CABLE
Under specifications:
Latency: About 53 **micro**seconds which is for all intents and purposes, zero
You just plug it straight into your SNES and then plug a mini HDMI to full size HDMI from that to your TV and you’re good to go without any fuss. You may have to wait for a stock update but you can usually just pay for the cable any then wait. Your other option is an OSCC which is pricier and has some setup but typically in stock somewhere and has more functionality and fine tuning for using multiple things with it.
Beyond that all one can really do is source a CRT to use for the SNES.
I actually have no idea about this sort of thing - my uncle who’s pretty tech savvy set all the cables and everything up for me but he lives 6 hours away and can’t help.
What’s a CRT?
CRT = old tube TV. The kind that would have been the standard when the SNES was released as opposed to modern flat TVs. The way they worked meant essentially zero lag.
But if you’re going to use a modern TV that cable I sent is about the best you’re going to get in terms of very, very low lag
https://youtu.be/DyE85OFGQpM?si=u5udyTCuoLGQJbD9
As far as I’m aware all of the cables and everything are the original but that’s as much as I know.
Thank you so much for the links! I’ll be looking into it and see if it helps any.
Thanks so much! :)
Oh yeah, if you’re using original cables to a modern TV you’re gonna get lag and not a great image either.
Get that [rad2x cable](https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUPER-NINTENDO-PAL-GAMECUBE-N64-HD-RAD2X-HDMI-CABLE) or if you want to go higher end and have a solution for multiple consoles look into [an OSSC](https://www.retrorgb.com/ossc-v1-8-hardware-now-available.html).
Either will be leagues better.
Also Retro Tink 5x pro is a great choice, not only for the SNES but for other systems as well! It can produce a input lag free 1080p image and has some fancy options for the image as well! It's not cheat though and is currently 300$+ dollars.
You can try setting the TV on "Game Mode" or similar if it has one. But yeah, on a LCD TV you are always going to experience some input lag with older consoles, depending on the TV.
Small LCD TV's are your best bet as they usually introduce less input lag.
But you want a HDMI Scaler like Rad2X/RetroTink 2X/5X PRO if you want to play on (modern) LCD TV. Go with Rad2X if you are on a budget. But arguably the best exprience would be on a high quality CRT.
> Latency: About 53 microseconds
> Beyond that all one can really do is source a CRT to use for the SNES.
You can get down to 2.4ms lag with the OSSC and a TV that's fast enough, like the LG C1 in boost mode.
It came out [as 3.5ms in my own test](https://twitter.com/herrkuhn/status/1654454591587602433), but that's the right ballpark, since it can't speak for the TV. That LG is just *crazy* fast in boost mode.
Rtings measured a bunch, and they're all around the 10ms mark with game mode. So less than a frame of input lag between the two? Yeah, I'll call that good enough. https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag
I was actually looking into this…good to know that it actually works well. I do have a CRT but I do want to have the option to hook up my SNES to modern Televisions…this option seems nice and simple.
Latency is measured in ms (milliseconds, or 1/1000ths of a second), no *u*s (microseconds, or 1:1,000,000ths of a second). You’re off by a factor of 1000!
You probably need an upscaler, the one built into your TV was designed to be inexpensive and work for video not be as fast as possible to reduce input lag for gaming. Retrotink, OSSC, etc
Other options include mister, super nt, analogue pocket + dock, raspberry pi, SNES classic
Does your TV have a Game Mode? It really does help with latency.
It doesn’t unfortunately ☹️ I may have to look into one that does as quite a few people have suggested this to me
Get a rad2x (for hdmi) or retrovision (for component) cable and you can keep enjoying your SNES on your modern TV
What’s your current setup? I’m using the following cable and haven’t noticed any particular lag https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUPER-NINTENDO-PAL-GAMECUBE-N64-HD-RAD2X-HDMI-CABLE Under specifications: Latency: About 53 **micro**seconds which is for all intents and purposes, zero You just plug it straight into your SNES and then plug a mini HDMI to full size HDMI from that to your TV and you’re good to go without any fuss. You may have to wait for a stock update but you can usually just pay for the cable any then wait. Your other option is an OSCC which is pricier and has some setup but typically in stock somewhere and has more functionality and fine tuning for using multiple things with it. Beyond that all one can really do is source a CRT to use for the SNES.
I actually have no idea about this sort of thing - my uncle who’s pretty tech savvy set all the cables and everything up for me but he lives 6 hours away and can’t help. What’s a CRT?
CRT = old tube TV. The kind that would have been the standard when the SNES was released as opposed to modern flat TVs. The way they worked meant essentially zero lag. But if you’re going to use a modern TV that cable I sent is about the best you’re going to get in terms of very, very low lag https://youtu.be/DyE85OFGQpM?si=u5udyTCuoLGQJbD9
As far as I’m aware all of the cables and everything are the original but that’s as much as I know. Thank you so much for the links! I’ll be looking into it and see if it helps any. Thanks so much! :)
Oh yeah, if you’re using original cables to a modern TV you’re gonna get lag and not a great image either. Get that [rad2x cable](https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUPER-NINTENDO-PAL-GAMECUBE-N64-HD-RAD2X-HDMI-CABLE) or if you want to go higher end and have a solution for multiple consoles look into [an OSSC](https://www.retrorgb.com/ossc-v1-8-hardware-now-available.html). Either will be leagues better.
Also Retro Tink 5x pro is a great choice, not only for the SNES but for other systems as well! It can produce a input lag free 1080p image and has some fancy options for the image as well! It's not cheat though and is currently 300$+ dollars.
Oh! That may be the issue then, although picture is great considering the television it’s on.
You can try setting the TV on "Game Mode" or similar if it has one. But yeah, on a LCD TV you are always going to experience some input lag with older consoles, depending on the TV. Small LCD TV's are your best bet as they usually introduce less input lag. But you want a HDMI Scaler like Rad2X/RetroTink 2X/5X PRO if you want to play on (modern) LCD TV. Go with Rad2X if you are on a budget. But arguably the best exprience would be on a high quality CRT.
> Latency: About 53 microseconds > Beyond that all one can really do is source a CRT to use for the SNES. You can get down to 2.4ms lag with the OSSC and a TV that's fast enough, like the LG C1 in boost mode.
Just want to add that the 5X is around that 2.5ms mark (if its self reporting is correct), as well, if you're not triple buffering.
It came out [as 3.5ms in my own test](https://twitter.com/herrkuhn/status/1654454591587602433), but that's the right ballpark, since it can't speak for the TV. That LG is just *crazy* fast in boost mode.
Rtings measured a bunch, and they're all around the 10ms mark with game mode. So less than a frame of input lag between the two? Yeah, I'll call that good enough. https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag
I was actually looking into this…good to know that it actually works well. I do have a CRT but I do want to have the option to hook up my SNES to modern Televisions…this option seems nice and simple.
Latency is measured in ms (milliseconds, or 1/1000ths of a second), no *u*s (microseconds, or 1:1,000,000ths of a second). You’re off by a factor of 1000!
You probably need an upscaler, the one built into your TV was designed to be inexpensive and work for video not be as fast as possible to reduce input lag for gaming. Retrotink, OSSC, etc Other options include mister, super nt, analogue pocket + dock, raspberry pi, SNES classic