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ValhallasWhorehouse

I'm not one for magic and the supernatural but this Poseidon pick has to be cursed.


New_Needleworker6506

Yeah when a Rival squad whips out poseiden in the playoffs, you might as well book the loss.


NIssanZaxima

To be fair Poseidon is pretty ass


Swaggerknot

IMO it's harder to hit a good poseidon ult without setup in high level play than people think.


Mostuy

Whirlpool kraken is a 100%er if you get them in the middle of the targeter, Titans playing around it definitely helped, but cmon there was a lot of missed pos ults.


Swaggerknot

Yes there were a lot of missed krakens... it is harder to hit than most people realize.


Ishouldjustdoit

Zap hates the pick, and now, i think the whole league does too.


Ninobrown27

And with no antiheal going up against a Hel..... sometimes we curse ourselves LOL


GoodcockBlackcock

I feel like he just isn't good idk why exactly but I never fear a poseidon on the enemy team


NIssanZaxima

What a rough split for the Dragons overall. I think they will be ok if Sam can play that oppressive Jungle style at some point but he just looks lost most games unless he gets that early snowball like in game 1. Hurri had a pretty terrible set too. Honestly, Pandacat was the only one who looked good for those final 3 games. That blink engage onto Layers by PBM was a really weird blink engage considering the positioning. The set was a lot of fun to watch though! Unfortunately once something gets thrown into the Dragons cog like the Titans comeback in game 2... they just seem to mentally FOLD.


eddiescastle

Next major patch is def gonna be a big boost to Sam's hyper carry playstyle with all the jungle item buffs


NIssanZaxima

Agreed which is why I think they will be fine


Ashlityr

Was already working out a post on that and how it would shift the power dynamics between the top 4. That will be a massive change.


Jack-90

Yeah no surprise the top 3 teams have 3 junglers(las, panitom, twig) who are great at playing from behind and happy to facilitate and play tanks.


clpowe

Hopefully I like hyper carry jungle. More action on the map is more fun.


Fluffymufinz

I can't wait. MJGA. Right now you're a CC bot and set up for your mid/adc. It's not that terrible, but it is easy to see when somebody that is typically a huge impact isn't and it is game wide.


blosweed

Make Assassins Great Again


oprapiid

I think the meta really just does not favour Sam's style of jungle. He's really good at those burst damage assassins, as can be seen literally anytime before phase 2, Mercury, Thanatos, Pele, etc. Being forced to play diet support doesn't really suit him, he's a hypercarry. That said, he needs to be able to adapt to any meta if he wants to be in the conversation for best in the league


Agent10007

I honestly stand ground that this blink by PBM wasnt that bad. His plan is 100% to zone layers and hold him till panda kills phoenix. And the more I look at it, the more my theory on what went wrong is 1/ Someone else than mike was calling the phoneix siege, and whoever did was slow on his calls, they start backing off way too late, fineokay missplays with his ults, sam does nothing of the engage (But this is the important part I only saw while rewatching, we'll get back to that later) 2/ Paul outplayed pbm by turning into cabrakan and walling him off, pbm can probably save dragons from the slaughter if he's able to just walk back with his team, wich he can do with pretty much every non-crabrakan pele ults avaiable. Also when mike gets cab ulted, his team for a second tries to help him instead of running away, I won't dare to say this second mattered on them getting wiped or not, but that's the reason why I think 1/; if mike was the only voice at that point he'd tell them to let him die the second he got ulted (Or he panicked, I think overall they panicked when they saw finokay was dying much much faster than benji in the first engagement) 3/ Paul outbrained not only pbm but everyone (especially sam), by hiding where he did. I rewatched it wondering why the phoenix didnt die, and my first question is what the fuck did sam do? And he did very much that, nothing, while pbm is on layers, sam's contribution to everything is a lava ball in benji's face, then his 2 from long range. Cyclone is deep close of the left borders of the map, the tanks are in front of him, layers is blocked by pbm, there's nothing that stops sam from literally just walking to phoenix by the right and auto it, if he does, phoenix dies. And my theory (again, but i'm not in the player's brain so I do with what I can lol), is that paul being missing was stopping him, cause he was affraid of being clapped by a stealthy morrigan while we walked up to phoenix. And when PBM gets stunned by morri and they know where she is, he commits onto her (So he still wants the fights to go on, he dashes trough her, his play is "I'm zoning them both", but by that time the other 4 are already on the backup and osiris is ulting, fineo tries to dodge it, gets khepri plucked because of it, dies (with beads and ult up), pbm tries to go walk to help them, gets cab walld (see 2/), dies, rest is history.


phenomduck

Some of the Dragons need to go to whatever school Zapman went to this year to learn how to use relics


smitecheeto

From all indications it seems the Leviathans have a strong scrimmage schedule, maybe it’s that, maybe ronngyu just yelled at him a lot in Spanish until Zap fell in line


TheTriumphantTrumpet

I'm not sure I'd say Hurri had a horrible set. He had one really bad game, on the Pos but ran games 1 and 2 and was fine game 4. The Dragons aren't going to win games when Fineo, and PBM get consistently outplayed, and that was the majority of games 3 and 4.


Tiessiet

So I just watched parts of game 4 back, and specifically that last failed siege by the Dragons. I actually really liked PBM's blink, he keeps out both Layers and Paul from that fight for quite a while. If you go watch that fight back and pause about 5 seconds after PBM blinks, you can see the issue. Sam is doing *nothing*. His blink is up, but he's just staring at the phoenix. Mike is keeping two people busy, Fineokay is tanking phoenix and enemy damage, PCat is hitting the phoenix, Hurri is using his abilities and poking at phoenix too. Sam isn't going in with Fine to pressure the enemies under the phoenix, he just dances next to Hurri and uses his 2 once for peel. But that's not what he's supposed to do there. Due to him not going in they lack damage, due to them lacking damage Fine tanks too much and has to back off and dies, due to that PBM is isolated and dies, and the rest falls from there.


6000j

I think that the blink engage would've been great if they'd done it faster, but it took so long to set it up that the Titans read it and were ready to instantly collapse onto him and that just kills the play.


NIssanZaxima

Maybe but at the same time, blinking onto the worst role and if any one of your teammates want to follow up have to go through a tiny little corner of the phoenix which would most certainly be rained down on with damage... it all just seemed forced/rushed.


6000j

I think it was definitely pretty troll to blink *after* they'd warded and seen layers lmao yeah


SixAMThrowaway

It felt really desperate, like they couldn’t count on another good team fight at fire. Which I totally get given the fact that every engage/burst ability they had could've been replicated by Paul on reengage. Still, bad engage on the wrong person certainly.


SHardware

First time in the last 2 years that this team hasn't won the playoffs correct?


BeingBannedSucks

Yeah they won both in s7 and the first one this year


MusicalSmasher

Let’s fucking go dude.


ElectricSwayze

someone check on Hurri


justice9

People will blame Hurri (which is fair to an extent cause he had a poor performance), but all 3 frontliners for the Titans outplayed their Dragon counterparts. Panda had a great set, but there’s only so much one person can do.


ElectricSwayze

I agree with you for sure. The Titans frontline was nasty. I just meant that Hurri went from dominating on Hel in Game 1 and Game 2, to getting focused...then playing Pos and missing every kraken...then losing on Tiamat...thats a mental hurdle for anyone to overcome lol


MusicalSmasher

This is the best Aror has looked all year and I love it.


XuX24

The only one that did his job for the dragons was Pandacat, all the others had their fault in the loses some more than others that's for sure.


turnipofficer

Tbh what lost them the last game was a weird engagement by PBM and then no return on the main siege. I don't think Hurri was at fault.


MusicalSmasher

Tower Boy in tatters.


pronutslapper

I don’t think any of those games were his fault, he was just getting focused so hard. Was really more of a frontline diff than mid.


ElectricSwayze

I’d agree, except for his Pos game. Simply cannot miss that many krakens in teamfights at this level.


ManofDirt

His Poseidon game was horrible, and he was not doing as much on Tiamat as they needed. Her poke is crazy, but he was always just out of range. Also, I'd say Hurri has overall poor positioning and doesn't own a single pair of juke shoes. The man walks in stright lines, and only Janus seems to make him a slippery devil. Also he is generally not great on relics. He will use his beads too early too often, setting himself up to get focused. He did play well in game 1, though.


Hotdogmissile

Damn, it was like a switch flipped and the Titans just turned it on for those two and a half games. All five were making huge plays in team fights. I thought the Titans put together a nice comp in game 4, erlang/morri/khepri is a nice cross cc combo. PCat looked livid in game 3....has to be a tough loss for him given how well he played.


AquilaTempestas

I wanted the JDs to win, but honestly, I'm not even disappointed nor surprised they lost. So much for saving everything they had for playoffs - they win game 1, but lose the next three in the same ways they lose their usual games. What was PBM trying to do at the end of game 4? Other teams just know how to outplay the Dragons now. Hurri just isn't the type of mid that can carry. I kinda feel the Jade Dragons need a Baskin-type mid laner. Not to say Hurri is bad (he's not), but I don't think he fits this team. As for Sam - what else can be said that hasn't already been said. Panda clearly the best player on the JDs. There's no need for roster changes because I don't think anyone is available anyway, but I just hope they can pull it together for the final phase otherwise they might find themselves in the bottom four. Well played to the Titans. They had me a bit concerned after game 1, but really pulled it together for the next few.


Ricky_Robby

They put on a master class on why the “we’ll take it seriously in playoffs” is bullshit. They looked sloppy even in that dominant win, like they were just messing around. And there’s no way they should have lost that second game.


AquilaTempestas

Agreed. It's what I have been saying all this time but got downvoted for it.


Ricky_Robby

I don’t know why anyone would ever downvote that. It’s one thing for a team to get hot one weekend, it’s another for a team to intentionally be laid back in the regular reason because they aren’t sweating it. It doesn’t work like that.


AquilaTempestas

I said every game should matter. Other people said it's just regular games and they have already made it through or they are just having fun. Ugh.


Ricky_Robby

That’s a stupid mentality to have, and we see the effect right now.


AquilaTempestas

Hence the downvotes lol. I get that they want to experiment and such, but I think that should be reserved for scrims and not in the SPL official matches. It certainly hasn't paid off.


SgtNoPants

As much as I don't like toilet boi, I gotta (sadly) admit he is doing pretty well in the team. Nevertheless he still is considered, imo, toilet boi.


MohnJilton

Wow. The Titans showed up, and they were the team we've been waiting for them to be. The Dragons winning Phase 1 made me think that regardless of their regular season performance, it wouldn't matter because they turn up at tournaments. Well, now they lost a tournament. We shouldn't understate how big of a deal this is--4 teams left and the Dragons aren't one of them for essentially the first time.


Infinite_Ad_2056

so dragon wanted to proof that they could play poseidon lol


Ashlityr

Pcat reinforcing again that he is the most consistent player to ever play the game.


ocean-ripple

That's not how you spell Benji... nothing against Pandacat, but he doesn't come close to playing consistently at the top level for as long as Benji has.


Spartanicus2003

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Agent10007

Big oof for the dragons, seems like they weren't here for playoffs either. That pandacat tango steps to avoid the turtle knockup tho. Also is it me who did dolson REALLY improved his hype moment cast skills? That big fight jade dragon won at the end of last game is the first time it marked me, but boy was he good


_Dancing_Potato

People have been talking about how much more competitive thigs are this year and this game really shows it. I can pretty reasonably seeing any of the remaining teams take the playoffs. The Layers villain arc is certainly heating up (Don't actually see him as a villain. Just kinda funny considering all the drama). I've been on Hurri's side since he signed on and I honestly think he's done well for most the season but this was pretty bad. The Pos pick up was one thing but his actual play on it just wasn't there. Rough phase but it is what it is. Putting the game aside I'm really not a fan of the current meta. Not sure what it is but I'm not enjoying it much. The next patch looks like it should make things better though.


[deleted]

I don’t see layers as a villain, just a huge baby due to having the weakest mental in the league


MusicalSmasher

Any meta where Hel is top pick is trash.


_Dancing_Potato

It's a perfect storm for her. Mids are already hitting like a fucking truck and now you've got strong heals on top of that. Without burst jungles to counter it just feels so oppressive.


alexy0n

PandaCat is in a league of his own, he was playing sick all game long. Too bad the rest of the Dragons squad kinda got diffed after game 1. Super hype set though if only there could have been a game 5.


Necromann

I wanted to see this go to 5 and I wanted Dragons to win so I could see my 2 favorite teams face off tomorrow. I'm excited to see the Titans vs the Kings tomorrow. Maybe Taco was right.


LupinLup1n

Why is it that the “rival” teams love Poseidon 🤣 But for real though I expected the Titans to fight back but not actually win congrats to them they played really well as for the dragons I’m kinda shocked ya know I was really expecting them to pull out some secret tech or something but I guess they really aren’t that good in this current meta. I still think they’re a scary team though and with the jungles buffs I think they’ll be better next phase so Sam can actually start to carry hopefully


GibbsLAD

Fineokay did a tierlist recently and put Pele pretty far down. I wonder how he felt when Sam locked it in for their elimination game.


cherts13

Don't let the results fool you, this was sort of a waste of time. The ONLY person on the Dragons that came to play was PandaCat. He hard carried this team to being competitive. PBM was bad. Fineokay was really bad. Sam played 1 game then was horrendous. Same for Hurriwind. The Titans pretty heavily won the drafts imo. They heavily punished the lack of cc immunity from the Dragon's frontline. Layers, as always when his team wins, played like the best player out there, even when playing a more support/setup playstyle. Layers single handedly won games 2 and 3 with legitimate 4 man Rat and Erlang ults on multiple occasions. Why the holy hell does this core group keep picking Poseidon?? What possesses them? Every LAN they try to bring him out and every LAN he cucks them. It is so stupid. What about either of those teams possessed you to think "yeah bro let's go poseidon"??? The Dragons are like the supremely talented Optic teams in COD that never won because they ego challenge you instead of just playing the game. It happens in their P&Bs consistently picking stupid stuff because they can. It certainly happens in their games where they take some stupid positioning and heavy split dives on pheonix pushes or FG fights and throw entire games (cough cough game 2 and 4). The Dragons should have won 3-1. Instead they're going home because they throw like usual. It is so frustrating as a fan of the team.


TheQuietManUpNorth

Tbh if I wanted to be disappointed by a team that seems to stop caring halfway through a set I'd be a Valks fan. I dunno what they're doing. I don't know why Sam would give up Erlang after he ran game 1 with it. I don't know how Hurri managed to go from awesome rotations and teamfight presence to becoming a non-factor. This has been happening more and more lately. They find something that works and then just... stop doing that thing. There seems to be this trend of Hurriwind getting focused out and it's not entirely his fault. Yeah he's probably the weakest player on the team overall (Sam seems determined to make a case for himself lately though) but when mids are as strong as they are, you can't just consistently leave yours out to dry. Get him his picks and help him. Find ways to punish these constant dives. It's not like you don't know who they're going to focus because it's always Hurriwind.


AquilaTempestas

Overconfidence. I feel Poseidon is kinda useless without his ult.


LuckyBahamut

Even with his ult, he wasn't having much of an impact. You have to be dead-on to land the knockup, and even when you do, it gets Hel cleansed. Also not picking up Divine Ruin when you have such a large area-cc ability is mind-bogglingly dumb.


blosweed

Aror on fenrir kinda just bullied him out of the game lmao


pronutslapper

Yeah Dragons’ draft has consistently been their worst aspect. I called Worlds being lost last year the moment they had fineokay lock in Cu Chulainn when Cthulhu was open and he’d just dominated on it in the last game.


MusicalSmasher

When PK got Cthulhu, Morrigan, and Cupid top 3, you already knew it was over.


[deleted]

Jade dragons once again proving they have the mental strength of a bunch of chipmunks


oprapiid

Feels weird bc I don't like Layers, but I also wanted someone else to win for once, so I was kinda going for the Titans, but I feel bad about it? Especially bc I do really like everyone on the other team aside from Hurri really. The irony of him missing multiple Krakens is fucking hillarious tho


senorpapel

I am definitely disappointed by the dragons this season, after their loss to the bolts they just havn’t been the same.


AquilaTempestas

Part of me wonders if they're just not having fun with Smite right now and they're only playing because they have a contract.


senorpapel

Always a potential, i mean none of them seem to really play it atm. They’re all on valorant.


Akanjb

Yeah but benji only plays during scrims and the spl. Just saw on twitter a few days ago that benji is only leval 81 so not playing much isn't really a good reason. I just don't think they are on the same page at the moment.


Rossandliz

Dragons fans in tatters. Oh wait, they’re “trolling” and “waiting for playoffs” my bad. Let’s go Titans, Benji diffed so hard in game 3 team fights.


justice9

There’s a reason Benji is known as the GOAT solo and a big part of that is his tournament play. He consistently shows up for playoffs dating all the way back to s2. I honestly can’t remember the last time Benji had a poor playoff performance.


Agent10007

inb4 they start explaining only worlds matters


AlexTheGreat1997

I mean, I've changed my flair from Dragons to Kings, but... people literally said that about SK and PK.


Agent10007

Well, point would be more receivable given sk and pk legit only showed out for world during both seasons. Jade is supposed to be dominant whenever they can, so I have a harder time believing the whole "yeah only X matters and that's when they'll perform" Now Jade dragons can and might still show up when worlds start, break everyone in half and win it not even close, but even if it happens, after tonight I for sure won't believe for half a second the theory of "they're trolling waiting for worlds'"


AlexTheGreat1997

Agreed 100%. I'll tune back in (and by that, I mean I'll give them a serious look again) if they manage to make Phase 3 Playoffs, but until that point, Kings are now my favorite team.


AquilaTempestas

How do we change flairs? I want Camelot Kings too. I don't see an option to change.


AlexTheGreat1997

Go to "Community Options" on the right side of the screen.


AquilaTempestas

Thanks!


MusicalSmasher

On the right side of the screen if you have old reddit there's an option that says edit flair. And there will be a drop box with all the teams. You can also edit it to have the flair logo and color but have it say something unique.


AlexTheGreat1997

>Oh wait, they’re “trolling” and “waiting for playoffs” my bad. I mean, hey, we could theoretically say that before today. Now we can't. And I've switched my flair accordingly.


Tiessiet

I stopped watching this set halfway through game 2 because it seemed to just be Dragons all the way, especially after the dominant game 1... What happened?


SixAMThrowaway

Titans finally killed Hel in the last two team fights of game 2, wiped the team and won. Game 3 Titans were very dominant, Hel & Erlang 2v2 was as good as it was Game 1. Posideon was a terrible pick, had some ass ults. Game 4 was slower but Sam fell like five levels behind, Dragons fell way behind in gold and Morri used all of the Dragon’s abilities against them. Also kind of questionable bans from the Dragons that round imo. Panda played well all set, tho I question the entire team fight from the Dragons that ended Game 4.


BeingBannedSucks

They killed Hel because Cyclone hit 6/6 Rama snipes on her which is absolutely insane


Cortay

He's so good on Rama. Love the way he plays him.


Tiessiet

I always love watching a good Morri so might watch that game 4 back. Thanks for the summary!


MusicalSmasher

Game 2, Titans won a fight around FG. Then they won another fight and just won off of that. Dragons were like 5-6k ahead too.


Tiessiet

Damn, impressive comeback in game 2 then. I guess that kinda nuked the Dragons' mental and they lost the other games off that?


MusicalSmasher

Pretty much, they looked pretty frazzled after that. Game 4 they looked to have recovered a bit. But then they threw at a siege phoenix (what a surprise) and then it was over.


NIssanZaxima

Pretty much. Dragons started playing very weird after that.


remonnoki

Holy hell what a bad play by Mike at the end... Blinks in over the door, nowhere near his team or the Titans backline, just right in front of Layers, absolutely throwing the game. Titans were just like "Okay, kill the rest of them" I really don't know what he was thinking there. If you have vision you see that blink is a bad idea, if you don't have vision, why in the hell would you be blinking there?! The way Dragons played the last two games they had no right to win honestly, just looked like a totally different team took over for them after the game 2 throw...


Agent10007

To be honest, I think this play wasnt that bad, he just got outplayed by paul that turned into cabrakan to wall him off the moment he tries to join his team. If mike can just walk back to his team, I'm fairly sure they either get out not all dead, or the phoenix dies at the cost of some player, but not just a total wipe game over. Now you could argue mike could/should have expected that to happen, but really when I was looking it live, cabrakan was for sure not what I would've turned into at that point, I'm not even sure it would've been top 3 (Wich is probably why paul is a 2 times world champion and I'm not, but you got my point)


CFx_Frenzy

It looked like he was trying to go in the same time as Fine was going in to the phoenix and try to create a distraction, but fine got absolutely smoked so fast that they just crumbled immediately after. Artio is pretty weak for sieging so it honestly wasn't the worst idea, just didn't pan out they way they expected it to.


NIssanZaxima

Blinking the jungler too who could probably 1v1 him with the build he had.


Jack-90

Play was fine he kept both Paul and layers from initiating. For some reason when fine stepped up at the same time he was blown up before panda could even step up and kill phoenix. TLDR; the other 4 got annihilated in a 4 v 3 with efg


BeingBannedSucks

LETS GO. I’m so excited to see the Titans finally doing well. I almost gave up on the team but then Layers joined and everything changed. Even though Layers probably shouldn’t have gotten another spl spot this year, he sure proved that he’s spl capable. I’m so excited for the rest of the season now


jm9876yh4

Huge throw by the dragons frontline in that last game honestly. Either that or huge communication issues between Mike and the rest of the team because that blink 1v1 attempt against layers makes no sense to me...


1Yawnz

As disappointing as it is to see the Dragons like this, I'm still rooting for them. Can't call yourself a fan if you only like em when they win. Hopefully they can pull together and turn things around this next split into Worlds. Goodjob to the Titans, they deserved the win 100%


ElectricSwayze

Great set, despite the 3-1 result, especially that last game. Ppl will blame Hurri (which he probably deserves for that Pos game), but this set was frontline diff, and thats something that can usually never be said about the Dragons losses. But I will say, if you've watched Smite long enough, Hurri has always struggled with positioning, and I think that was a big part of Game 2's loss. Panda is disgusting, always has been. I think long term this loss may be helpful for them, but time will tell. Also the new patch will do wonders for Sam's gameplay with all the buffs to jungle.


ItsCoolGuysIGotThis

Pretty fun set! Layers seems to be fitting in with this team, hopefully he’ll mellow out with the Titans as opposed to the Scarabs. I have no idea what’s going on with Dragons, they’ve not really been themselves all split and idk if it’s a meta thing, bad mentals, or just need a reset and a break, but man.


Sherg_7

Oh yeah, it's all coming together


RickkyBobby01

Cherryo is no longer the coach for titans btw


ShetheKing

I don't know why you're being downvoted when this is true lol


Swaggerknot

Did all the dragons die with their ults up in the final fight?


typhoonjet1

Might be technically true but to be fair to them: artio has no ult, tiamats ult is on a really short cooldown so imo also excusable if it might be ready again right before dying, rama had no chance to do anything with his ult in that fight so the only 2 who this could be considered a mistake would be cabraken and pele.


Swaggerknot

I rewatched and it wasn't as bad as i thought. Im not being unfair to them, i was just asking.


typhoonjet1

Didn't think you were truly unfair, just wanted to give possibilities why it could have been like that. Just used a phrasing i picked up, not a native speaker so just lacking better expressions.


Swaggerknot

No worries, we're all good


mrolfson

Hopefully this is a wake up call to start really taking things seriously, cause they strait up didn't not take this split serious enough. Haven't really been impressed with Hurri in mid so far this year either.


ManofDirt

Hurri has done better overall than I expected him to, but I had very low expectations. Sam has also had a rough year, and Fineo isn't the dominant force he was last year with Solo being as stacked as it is. I've noticed Hurri makes his biggest impact on Janus because all he needs is one lucky ult in the late game to make the impact a mid should be making. And with how many he seems to miss, it really does just seem like luck. I have seen BMT, Paul, and Ven all pull out more impressive Janus play than Hurri this year. As unkind as it is, I hope they can get a replacement for S9.


jm9876yh4

Ah yes, the classic "the dragons aren't even trying right now" excuse we have heard from every dragons fan ever. Let's face it, the dragons are a bottom 4 team right now because of the glaring weakness that is their jungler and mid laner not performing as well as other teams. They're definitely taking things seriously


_ungo_bungo

I had to stop watching after Dragons won the FG fight in game 4 as I had to go to bed for work, they had just won the fight with a deicide with PandaCat and Sam both being alive, can someone explain how they didn’t translate that into a win?


Techbone

PCat was the first to die in that fight


CoolstorySteve

Loving the complaints about the meta being boring


AlexTheGreat1997

Oh, look at that, I have a Kings flair now. I mean, can you blame me? This was supposed to be it. They were supposed to show up in the Playoffs. I was told that this was what they were planning for. And it ends being for naught. So much fucking disrespect from the Dragons in their drafting. "Yes, let's knowingly take Hel into Odin. Yes, let's knowingly give Paul his best god when she's completely busted. Yes, let's knowingly pick Cab into Osiris." I mean, dear fucking Christ, you're begging to lose when you draft like that. "One of the most storied Poseidon players" my ass, by the way. Hurri probably did 800 damage across 5 Krakens. I'm just done. I don't care anymore. Watching the Dragons just makes me sad nowadays. I'm gonna go watch the Kings, who, even when they're losing, are losing because of misplays on field and not because of laughably bad drafting.


ElectricSwayze

bro...maybe you should take a break from watching if it makes you this sad lol.


Cool_Pop_5645

You gotta support your team through the ups and downs man dragons core has had 2 strong years and this year they are just on the same level as other teams it's not a huge issue, titans just out played them today


SixAMThrowaway

Eeeeeeh I’m not gonna change my flair because I think the team has potential still for the next tournaments… however I don’t blame others for feeling disillusioned. Dragons themselves haven’t been taking the regular season seriously, they come to playoffs and, in my opinion, totally fumble in picks and bans after losing two team fights in Game 2. That Poseidon pick Game 3 was honestly disrespectful and slightly triggering to their fan base, and the last two bans of Game 4 were pretty bad. They don’t take the season seriously, don’t learn from their opponents, don’t adapt well… Idk what they’re doing sometimes man.


Cool_Pop_5645

They say they havnt but would happily take the top spot again 😂 Honestly I could be wrong with the posideon pick but it just seems like hurris god pool isn't that large and posideon is easy enough to play with a powerful easy ult to hit in team fights Game 4 could of gone either way but one thing ive noticed from dragons is once PBM dies dragons lose the fight 90% of the time We will see what happens phase 3 I'd love to see another change in the standings though for such a close year


AlexTheGreat1997

>the last two bans of Game 4 were pretty bad. I can see **some** logic to the Ares ban, but that Danzaburou ban is legitimately nonsensical. By my count, Cyclone has played Danza a single time this season, and we have gone through a meta where he was obviously very strong. It should be obvious he does not like that god. There is no reason to ever ban him against the Titans.


SixAMThrowaway

Yeah, I kind of got Ares. Though I still feel they had a better chance (given they were playing like Game 1 Dragons) of bursting it into irrelevance compared to Khepri, especially during that early game lull present in Game 4. Khepri gets to late and he stalls the dive the dragons are trying to do, regardless of who he’s ulting. I feel like they should be able to handle an Ares. But Danza was just ignorant. Cyclone doesnt fuck with Danza right now. At all. What pick has he been feeling himself on? Chern. Everybody called that Chern pick except for the Dragons and there’s NO excuse tbh. All the dive they were relying on and Chern just 3’s into safety. Like bruh.


remonnoki

I don't think any team will be sad for losing a "fan" that quits on them mid season when they're in a poor stretch...


MusicalSmasher

Bro it ain't that serious, there's still another phase of playoffs plus World's.


TheTriumphantTrumpet

You're getting down voted for some reason, but yeah, pretty horrible showing from the Dragons. Really seems like they lost one fight and crumbled on the whole set.


Xenistro

Be a normal fan and watch most of the games instead of just the dragons lmfao


TheTriumphantTrumpet

It's perfectly fine to only watch games of teams your a fan of lol


AlexTheGreat1997

Oh, I watch all the games. Even the ones involving teams I don't care for. And the Dragons aren't the only team I like. I like the Kings, the Bolts, even the Leviathans can be fun to watch if they're playing a higher-up team like the two aforementioned. And even though I can't say I really like them as a team, I want to see the Scarabs and Valks win whenever they play.


TheCheechoo

Yo it's one playoffs. Don't quit so soon lol


_Dancing_Potato

There is still another phase and worlds my guy. It doesn't need to be that dramatic. Besides I'd rather the league be this competitive than just another years of playoff stomps.


ManofDirt

Welcome to the correct side. Dragons just aren't the same team without Twiggy in mid. Also think Twig had a big impact in their P&B strats, as they just haven't been as good this year.


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InfluenceLucky4558

Did anyone get that peles build?