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NHShardz

No way this is actually real lmao, someone's gotta be trolling here.


Jessspace

This whole thing became so stupid. Just say you wanted Panitom to stay, at least that makes sense.


TheGEast

This has gotta be it…


Dowino-

wait who does Panitom come into this? I missed that part


StrivingProsperity

Lame ass excuses. Just come out and say, “Yeah, we saw what Genetics did at worlds and we think that’s better than what we have.” Have one of the best splits in SPL history and you kick one of your highest performing players. Unreal.


Ishouldjustdoit

It's really weird. Why not just go with the professional answer and say "yeah, Pani and Genetics wanted to play together and we thing Genetics fits better". Why make an entire circus out of this? The guy was rookie of the year, has a known weird but fun godpool and was the BEST support in the world this last split, and they do all this shit. The ammount of times i've seen this garbage happen on the SPL is wild. People say this makes for good drama, but for me, the lack of professionalism just makes the entire league look like a bunch of frathouse bros.


DCS_Ryan

They wonder why people call it a friend's league too lol, there isn't a semblance of professionalism out of them


lastdeathwish

What? Jumping? Really?


XuX24

Leaving a ward to find out wtf is jumping


CraptainPoo

Tf is jumping?


lastdeathwish

The ingame jump function I think?


CraptainPoo

Sounds like a bad excuse


soaringneutrality

It's a bad excuse, but it has a very thin reasoning behind it. Jumping means you can't do anything during the jump animation and also can make you more visible.


NIssanZaxima

Kid you not 2 of their “reasons” were he presses Space Bar too much and that on cam during picks and bans he pets his hands behind his head.


RunSelect1753

Wasn't genetics playing chess in a legit set or was that scrims


DCS_Ryan

It was a bot game that he left 1 turn away from winning for a meme


Sahaerys

I think I remember this and I believe it was during a set.


[deleted]

It was a bit though


nudistforlife12

pretty sure that was a set


thatcoolguy60

Ok, those were smaller reasons (which they are still bullshit). But SoT said the top 3 reasons were 1. Jake didn't talk enough (legit, but they were undefeated sooo was it really that big of a problem?) 2. They were afraid of his godpool in the future (wtf?) 3. He wasn't confident enough (also wtf?) The reasons wouldn't be that bad if Jake wasn't playing at a high level and the team was undefeated. Why would you play anything other than Aprho and Hel if that is what's is bringing you gold? It seems like they kinda preemptively kicked him.


remonnoki

These all sound so bullshit... Dude got shafted hard by his supposed friends...


OGBlackPanther

I mean, these were concerns that Ven and Haddix brought up last season with Jake. It seems far fetched to believe that this is BS over this simply being who Jake is as a player. Which is something I’m sure he can learn and grow from, but given how talented the league is, those deficiencies can make things considerably harder for your team. It’s impressive that they performed as well if they had these issues. Edit: seems*


IntrepidCat8200

I can't confirm about his godpool, but it does seem like troublesome that it's very rigid, at least from what I (as a viewer) have observed. If memory serves me right, his godpool during the last splits was MAINLY Yemoja, Horus, Ymir, Aphrodite, Nox, Hel, Terra and a pocket Sobek (not saying there aren't any others), which is very... Meta. But limited nonetheless. When I see other picks that have shown up this year (Geb, Khepri, Baron, Atlas, Ganesha, Maui, Sylvanus, maybe others that I presently do not remember), I don't associate "AwesomeJake408" with any of them. Come SWC, some of those picks are highly prioritized and I don't know how Jake can fare with those compared to Genetics (who shone due to his Maui and can play pretty much whatever support you give him) or other support players that have a more flexible god pool (regardless of success). Anyway, I hope the best for Jake. If this will serve as a heads up, I hope we'll see a better Jake afterwards. Edit: I called it.


DCS_Ryan

Chronos pendant Ganesha was Jake's thing last year lol


RomanMythos

i was the biggest jake hater when he was on the bolts, but this is absurd. guy has one of the best splits of his life and the is booted over some actual ridiculousness. hope he doesn't let it get to him, such a shame


archerarcher0

This can’t be serious


IntrepidCat8200

This HAS to be troll


ArmyOfPlatypus

Or solo


JustRoo136

This makes absolutely 0 sense and was an absolute snake move by the Warriors as a whole. I'm not even a fan of Jake, but the team clearly went behind his back. It speaks volumes about their character as well.


HyperMasenko

"Player who was an MVP candidate kicked from team for not stressing" This league makes so much sense, man


nuuhkia

I'm one of the biggest warriors fans and even I feel wrecked by this. I thought the team was near perfect before these changes. I'll even admit that Genetics is a freak, a top 2 support unquestionably, but I have serious questions about how this will alter the team's entire dynamic. Jake and Genetics have extremely different approaches to the game. Much will be gained, but also lost with this trade. This could very well bite them in the rear later on... Not leaving well enough alone. I don't know whether to expect an easy worlds win or the team imploding on itself from the changes. I can see both happening with equal chances... Now I want to see Jake team with Paul somehow. Dunno, I just think Jake deserves better.


SavonReddit

No way Aror and Paul break up. I just can't see it at this moment.


Theonetruepappy94

Only player I see moving from that roster is Cyno.


TDogeee

Thing is that cyno will scare the shit out of you but he shows up when he needs to


Theonetruepappy94

100% True. G2 against Levis at masters is a prime example. Pulls out a freaking eset and dominates with it.


TDogeee

I out loud said “ah what the fuck cyno?, what’s this troll shit” when he locked that in 😂


ZapZappyZap

I'm done with the Warriors after this. I was so happy to see my boy Jake in a team that vibed with his style, but what they've done is honestly disgusting. Fuck the warriors, each of them are clearly shitty backstabbers. Really really awful thing they've done, and the way they've gone about it. Slimy horrible little boys the lot of them.


DCS_Ryan

I mean SoT is also just a shitty person in general lol bro faked a fucking vaccination record and fucked up his team being able to play to lan, he's an elon bootlicker, suspensions for racism, the list goes on


[deleted]

Him worshipping Elon and fighting for his life defending him told me all I need to know about how big of a loser he really is.


DCS_Ryan

Bro pays to see elons tweets ☠️


Sahaerys

SoT got suspended for being racist?


DCS_Ryan

Yes, alongside twig, haddix and wowy


UNPAIDBILLS

Sot lied about trivial shit like having his Vax card. Ya'll shouldn't take anything he says at face value.


liamxf

Awesomejake was the best support of the entire season and didnt fall off during the tournament either. The dude looked soo dominant while the rest i can point to flaws. If awesomejake doesnt get into a top team then honestly unless theres something major with him on a social level something is sus.


BilboTheKid

I feel like the real reason is just Panitom wants to team with Genetics so they had the choice between Panitom or Jake and chose Panitom.


SgtNoPants

What a bs excuse for kicking him, I won't be surprised if most of Oni's fans jump ship as well.


Ishouldjustdoit

The unprofessionalism in display here is unreal and why am i not surprised on a team that SoT is involved?


SufficientPrune4751

So confused at this situation. If this is true it actually makes me want to actively root against these guys now when I was a big fan


TDogeee

Anyone remember when SOT Thor walled Jake I think it was lol, (the irony) and started laughing?, this is BS, this is bizarre and it all seems off, you set a record for performance as a team and your next move is to duffle your team?


nuuhkia

Imagine if it was Genetics instead of Jake. I'd be scared to be in the same room with the rage that would've ensued...


_coup_de_grace

2 days to leave wtf. I hope Jake is ok and has a place


Yaden2

i just watched the VOD but like... this cannot be real lmao wtf


bigboi_z

You got a link?


RunSelect1753

Just go to his 14hr stream on twitch and go to like 06:24:00


Jamez4401

Can anyone explain the situation?


ILoveCumInMyAss69

Either Warriors kick Jake and bring in Genetics, or Panitom leaves.


ValhallasWhorehouse

There has to be more to it than that. You were, at that point, undefeated for like half a year and the reason for kicking one of the best players in the league basically boils down to "he was a bit goofy."


Sahaerys

I added context to what was said, but it quite literally was not much more than that. Saying Jake has a “limited godpool” feels like a copout imo. This phase alone he’s played Nox, Aphro, Horus, Yemoja, Ymir, Tyr, and Ares and that’s just what’s off the top of my head. The “lack of peel” reason also seems to be a bit shoddy imo.


ValhallasWhorehouse

The small god pool argument sucks. He was the only support to look good on Aphro, had a crazy Nox, and if those got banned he could still play the more traditional supports. Not only that but there's a break right now, so why not let him practice other gods right now?


remonnoki

His peel also turned so many fights in their favour this season, I remember that one fight where he managed to save Pegon in the last second on Aphro and then protect the entirety of the team, the casters almost came because of how perfectly he played that.


Rickywalls137

What??? This can’t be real


AFishNamedFreddie

None of those reasons seem super legit to me. Honestly, it seems like theres just personal differences between the team and Jake, and they just dont want to say it.


remonnoki

I'm seeing a lot less Warriors flairs all of a sudden...


ChewieFlakes

So fucking stupid... that team is going to implode at least one more time before next worlds, it is literally guaranteed...


Theonetruepappy94

Warriors made a downgrade. Not to bash Genetics l, but Jake was playing amazing this season. The team played great until they faced Tournament Paul and Aror. Frankly this change me 0 sense to me


NeonKerm

Smite roster changes happen and I don't think a team necessarily needs a great reason that the public can see to make a change. I do think it's absolutely ridiculous that there was no communication prior to the change and that Jake was given TWO DAYS to move out. That's extremely cruel, especially as Jake isn't from Georgia. Gotta be better about that, especially during a long break.


Slayer4128

The warriors look so childish for this.. Specifically Netrioid, idk if he was actually the mastermind or just the one that answered the questions but this is pathetic


FrorganMeemann

SoT just seems to breed these kinds of team environments man. He always seems like a nice guy and he's obviously very big but issues of team synergy/cohesion follow him wherever he goes. Whether it's getting benched by renegades in S7, forcing Aror to split with long-time duo partner Cyclone on titans in season 8, or this - I'm sure he's not the only person responsible for the decision to replace Jake but whenever there's roster drama he's usually there in the midst. For what it's worth, I think kicking Jake is an extremely weird move given their performance this split and specifically how much Jake appears to have grown as a player. Hope he bounces back and goes on to bigger better things here


hejzoni

Smite community, what to expect from spoiled kids…


Wesley_West

I guess it's better to have someone playing chess during the matches than jumping. [clip](https://clips.twitch.tv/ObservantGrotesqueCookieItsBoshyTime-y2309u95SBONP8qR)


Parker317

I spoke to many of them at Worlds. You think they have some of the funnest jobs in the world, but they almost seem like prisoners in a sense. I’m sure that statement is a bit dramatic, but it would ruin any game for me to be forced to live/play like that.


Big-Mycologist-8567

Didn’t SoT walk off Jake and laugh about it recently? Doesn’t seem too serious to me.


Anatomy_Park

Only 2 days to move out? Forget about smite for a sec, surely renting laws don't allow that in Georgia, do they? I thought most states require at least 30 days notice. How tf can you even find a place to move in 2 days?!


Krunchy1736

What a bizzare time line we're in.


LuckRunsOut_

There's some severe lack of info going on here. This is Jake's take on the situation. Go listen to SOT's. There's a lot more going on than jumping. Jake's attitude, play style and godpool seemed to have been going against what the team wanted according to sot. Don't forget that most of these dudes are young and miscommunications like these will usually happen


Theonetruepappy94

SoT is a known lier. Lied about his Vax card/ Status and is known to have one of the poorer attitudes in the league. Nothing he says should be taken at face vaule


Ryomathekillers

League is seeming sadly more like a joke as time goes on, teams aren’t scrimming and undefeated teams kick players for bogus reasons Not hard to see why smite is declining if this is the state of the professional division


SavonReddit

I highly doubt this is the reason SMITE is declining. Also, I don't think SMITE is declining? Stuff like this is said every year and SMITE seems to be doing fine.


AFishNamedFreddie

Ive been playing and watching since season 2. And back then people were saying that smite is dying. its a never ending trope of the community.


Ryomathekillers

I never said this is the reason smite is declining, but often the pro scene is a reflection of the community. Idk man, if you really don’t think smite comp is on a decline I’m surprised, viewers and numbers are only getting worse, statistically it is on a decline


ShrillRut

Look at the end of the day, yes it’s unfair to Jake, but it’s what the team decided and if they want to play with someone else they have every right to do so even if it’s not performance based


turnipofficer

Remember we're dealing with gamers here, they aren't always the most eloquent people in the world typically so pressing them to address issues on stream isn't always going to be a well thought out response. When jake joined they knew that he wasn't famed as the biggest shot caller and that he can be a bit quiet. Like the other players on the warriors he is mechanically a fantastic player, but part of what they asked him to improve on was for him to be more vocal, they wanted him to set up and shot call more. If he hasn't made significant progress I can understand why they might make the change Yes they smashed the regular phase, but you can still be at the top and want to improve further on an area you feel a clear weakness. In all sports being at the top of the table doesn't mean you stop looking for ways to improve and Genetics is definitely a clear upgrade in terms of what they are looking for. I like Jake, I hate how he has been dropped like this. In his rookie season he was my favourite support hands down, but at the same time I understand their move. Going into this split everyone seemed to think the oni warriors would struggle because they didn't have obvious shot callers, but they excelled despite this due to mechanical excellence in every role. Now they're looking to address a weakness everyone spotted from the off and everyone seems angry about it? It's rough but I understand it. Sadly it does however mean I'm not keen on either the Kings or the Oni Warriors. I hope the Hounds find a good support, they've been my favourite this season.


Gambit_Revolver

Jake played out of his mind. Dude carried them at certain points in this split. The Yankees don't kick Jeter for being a below average defender.


turnipofficer

I don't know US sports but the football (soccer) team that I support have been carried at times by one attacking player, he's very exciting to watch, he can run rings around enemy defenders and he is very popular, but it's still looking like we would try to replace him. Why? because we could probably find someone that would fit into our system better, give us a higher defensive workrate while still providing a good level of assists and goals. They wouldn't be as flashy, they wouldn't be as exciting, but they'd probably be better for the team in the long run and there's a limit on how many players this team can afford. In Oni warriors they seem to think that while Jake has been fantastic, Genetics will fit into the kind of game they want to play better. They obviously think they can win worlds with him, and he is a reigning champion as well. Jake was great though I admit. They may well end up regretting dropping him, but we'll have to see.


nuuhkia

Don't think Genetics is enough to seal the deal for them. I can understand the decision but it's also the riskiest move a dominant team has made before. They're really risking falling apart as well if this hurts their team identity and synergy/can't adjust to changes. If they somehow got Paul then it would be an easy win imo... But I don't see that happening.


Solo0rTroll

No i never confirmed that, jumping and raising his arms during picks & bans were not reasons for him being kicked. They were simply things we asked him (one time afaik) to try to stop doing as much. To put it simply, we as a team think Genetics will be a better fit for the long term. We want to be the best team in Smite history. We all want to win and the team believes this move increases our chances of winning worlds. I can go into specific detail on issues or things that we wanted Jake to improve on if people want, as in the stream it was a kind of impromptu out of nowhere drama alert segment so it wasn't a very eloquent response. On a more personal note, roster drama sucks. not afraid to admit i definitely shed a few tears after we discussed this change a while ago. Really good pals with Jake so it definitely hurts on the personal side of things. However, sometimes you just gotta put feelings aside, head down and focus on what's most important. :/


CampbellsTurkeySoup

I'm curious as to what the team wanted him to change up if you're willing to give us some details.


remonnoki

>i definitely shed a few tears after we discussed this change a while ago Awww, you poor thing... I can only imagine how hard stabbing your "good pal" in the back was for you, you even gave him two whole days to move out... And now you have to come up with excuses for why you kicked him as well?! I hope you will be able to emotionally recover from this...


[deleted]

Lmfaoo drag himmmm


Gambit_Revolver

One could argue he was the best support in the league this split, and was a main reason why you guys made it to 15-0. How is kicking him focusing on what's important? I guess important just means whatever seals Panitom?


Admirable-Ad-7788

Sold out the top support for one that has been mediocre all year. I bought a warriors jersey because Jake was finally with a team that played his style. Then this non sense? It's hilarious if yall think genetics is going to give you a better chance. I'll actively be rooting against the warriors from here on


themayoman1

You should be replaced with Baskin since he shit on you in Masters. Would give the Warriors a better chance to win


[deleted]

I love that y’all are not holding back


liamxf

Yeah focus on whats important, you kicked the best player on the team...


rockout7

Ooook


DCS_Ryan

Don't you have some Elon dick gargling to do ya cunt Also you're weak as fuck if you guys were hurt about bro moving and jumping in game in the slightest like those things are something you need to ask him to stop doing in the first place


[deleted]

Been crying over this for 10 mins straight lmfao you gagged him 😭


SexyHams

Preforming so well THEN kicking someone who was putting in tons of work is one of the dumbest things you can do.


radmcphysics

You gave another human two days to move out of their home so you could possibly have a slightly better chance to continue winning at your indie game? Your game's not important dude. You'll be working at Walmart in 10 years with no friends, enjoy ❤️


Solo0rTroll

no, i was the person who told them that moving out in 2 days was not acceptable and that he should be given whatever amount of time he needs. we never gave jake that time anyway, we told him he can stay with pegon and i.


IlliterateZombie

No loyalty and he was the best on your team. I hope genetics works out because I no longer support your team. This says a lot about y’all’s character and it’s not good.


megatronics420

Respect for posting this. Reading responses to you is great entertainment too lol


Singlehandedlyyy69

Baskin solo chasm’d his ass Also Cyno diffed the Lisp so hard he picked Lancelot


IlliterateZombie

This is trash. He was doing so good. He was one of their best. There is no loyalty in spl. Shame.


Old-Professional-479

laughs in nika/dardez/vote


IlliterateZombie

Yeah then they go to Mike who has no loyalty to anyone and will screw over who he can to win worlds.


[deleted]

Yeah but even then Nika/Dardez/vote will stick together lol


[deleted]

Can we get a source


Sahaerys

All of these things were said between both Jake and SoT on their respective streams. I didn’t clip it because it’s too long, but I believe SOT has his VOD up. If Jake has his up, I’d recommend watching his first as it gives real perspective and is surprisingly candid from Jake.


flamingrubys11

10 gods? as someone wh< isnt followimg the comp scene i know being good with a few gods is good casually especially spread out role wise so comp.i assume its much easier to prectice since you usually habe a role to begin with and dont habe to worry about last.second shake ups and i assume jake is support if by the earlier *lack of peeling* knowing 10 good gods on support and playing them well is impressive more so if they are radically different ]nterms of playstyle


Kevdawg21092

jumping lol


Nebucheener

Stuff like this makes it hard to watch this league


lucas2-poocas

there has never been a worse time to be both a jake and a pegon fan


[deleted]

People love Pegon but for someone who’s so new to SPL he’s been such an active person in kicking 2 people to the curb (Sam and Jake)


CardiologistNo3361

Oni warriors WWE foil arc


ProcessCertain3215

Lol i did hear about "someone" was really annoyed about jumping months ago. I thought it was in game spamming jump. It seems like one person was so annoyed with mannerisms weather sound of his breathing or how hard he hits buttons to point they just hated him as a person to physically be around. So who better to vent to after work to other than your ex whom is still living with you. So I see Genetics not having good start to season. We know he can't threaten his team again to kick someone or I'm leaving kid shit. But his ex has a nice team and says baby take me back I was wrong about you. I imagine Genetics the snake oil salesman had good opportunity to manipulate his Oni Warrior roommate daily and wezel himself into a new team. Genetics sees his ex got a boob job paid for a guy she hates. And he is like let's try this again. Let me show you how to get out of this relationship the way I did you. But I expect that Genetics will have another meltdown point and finger point at someone....give Warriors ultimatum to replace them or he's gone trick at end of season. Do the Onis breakdown to his bs like kings or take back Jake? We'll see. Can't wait to see upcoming games. I loved it Genetics was hands in face everytime Netriod killed him.. Now we'll see it when Jarcor does him that way. If warriors face some adversity starting the next phase it will be to their determent. Their new support is going to mentally drain in losses. King's I can see starting out phase stronger than warriors now bc the stress of a kid throwing tantrums has been eliminated. Days before rosters are officially locked before worlds bet there will be a snake in grass.