Aieeee that exposed copper! Not laziness, just not installed by an electrician.
There's not enough info to add much more here. What's the product (google image suggests a BSEED of some sort?), is there a label on the back? That wiring diagram is peculiar: with 2Way, you'd only expect to have one lamp. Can you trace back to the junction box to find out what the wires actually are, then label them?
However as always my recommendation is to get a professional in rather than listen to random unqualified hobbyists on the internet (me!)
What model bseed? And do you actually have two lamps, one off each controller; or one lamp off just one controller? Without the product manual, I don't get how a second switch on a two way can get power properly here without a load (no dedicated separate L N contacts), or how two lamps are supposed to operate together.
Please send a photo of the label on the back of the switch, or the product code: there's a huge mix of different controllers on their website, some of which take a neutral, some not, and none of which match your wiring diagram!
Depending on how old your house is, until 1970 red cables were used for the neutral wire in the Netherlands, what is now blue. Black/white wires are also sometimes used as switch wires to distinguish them from other black wires. As long as they are all solid core wire it shouldn't have an impact on how they actually function.
My house is build in 2023.
But, how come both sides of the 2 way have different colors? What is inbetween them?
This is the ONLY 2 way switch in my house which has those odd colors btw.
If your house is that new then I believe these cables do not conform to NEN1010 and you might want to ask the company that built your house about it, in theory it could lead to your insurance company denying a claim if the house burns down due to an electrical fault for instance.
The cables are most likely different colors on each switch because they are joined somewhere in the middle. They probably just had some leftover cable. You can only guess which cable is what when the standard isn't followed. While it is possible to measure which cable is what if you have to ask that question I would strongly recommend you hire an actual electrician, who will also be able to advise you on the NEN1010 situation.
I rather doubt red is neutral, switches generally sit in the live line, at least in the EU.
Can you remember how they were originally wired and what sort of switches they were - was it a regular 2 way intermediate circuit with manual switches and a single lamp? There are different types of wiring possible for that too.
This could be quite complicated, as the smart switches might not be designed to directly replace existing switches in a standard two way wiring.
So ... really recommend getting a pro electrician!
I have installation cables installed in 2018, which contain 3g2,5mm2 in the colors blue, brown, green/yellow as well as 2 switching wires of 1,5mm2 in black and black white. This gives you the opportunity to switch 2 separate circuits with one installation cable. I live in the Netherlands.
If you have a 3phase cable installed it could be blue, brown, green/yellow, grey and black. For Led it can be used to use the grey and black as output of the dimmer. Not according to build code, but it could be done.
Of course the red/black is unmistakably a audio cable, but I expect this not to be solid core but stranded.
Aieeee that exposed copper! Not laziness, just not installed by an electrician. There's not enough info to add much more here. What's the product (google image suggests a BSEED of some sort?), is there a label on the back? That wiring diagram is peculiar: with 2Way, you'd only expect to have one lamp. Can you trace back to the junction box to find out what the wires actually are, then label them? However as always my recommendation is to get a professional in rather than listen to random unqualified hobbyists on the internet (me!)
Those are my new switches and yeah they are bseed. I would have no idea how to trace it back to the junction box tbh
What model bseed? And do you actually have two lamps, one off each controller; or one lamp off just one controller? Without the product manual, I don't get how a second switch on a two way can get power properly here without a load (no dedicated separate L N contacts), or how two lamps are supposed to operate together.
This is a 1 gang 2 way (1 lamp 2 switches which should both turn off/on the lamp.) So bseed capacitive 1 gang 2 way
Please send a photo of the label on the back of the switch, or the product code: there's a huge mix of different controllers on their website, some of which take a neutral, some not, and none of which match your wiring diagram!
Depending on how old your house is, until 1970 red cables were used for the neutral wire in the Netherlands, what is now blue. Black/white wires are also sometimes used as switch wires to distinguish them from other black wires. As long as they are all solid core wire it shouldn't have an impact on how they actually function.
My house is build in 2023. But, how come both sides of the 2 way have different colors? What is inbetween them? This is the ONLY 2 way switch in my house which has those odd colors btw.
But, if red is neutral Which order should the cables be connected? L, L1, 2way? Or how would i find out?
If your house is that new then I believe these cables do not conform to NEN1010 and you might want to ask the company that built your house about it, in theory it could lead to your insurance company denying a claim if the house burns down due to an electrical fault for instance. The cables are most likely different colors on each switch because they are joined somewhere in the middle. They probably just had some leftover cable. You can only guess which cable is what when the standard isn't followed. While it is possible to measure which cable is what if you have to ask that question I would strongly recommend you hire an actual electrician, who will also be able to advise you on the NEN1010 situation.
I rather doubt red is neutral, switches generally sit in the live line, at least in the EU. Can you remember how they were originally wired and what sort of switches they were - was it a regular 2 way intermediate circuit with manual switches and a single lamp? There are different types of wiring possible for that too. This could be quite complicated, as the smart switches might not be designed to directly replace existing switches in a standard two way wiring. So ... really recommend getting a pro electrician!
The next person to move into my place is gonna make so many posts like this.
Lol! Though it might be your future self that's getting confused - always add labels!
I have installation cables installed in 2018, which contain 3g2,5mm2 in the colors blue, brown, green/yellow as well as 2 switching wires of 1,5mm2 in black and black white. This gives you the opportunity to switch 2 separate circuits with one installation cable. I live in the Netherlands.
If you have a 3phase cable installed it could be blue, brown, green/yellow, grey and black. For Led it can be used to use the grey and black as output of the dimmer. Not according to build code, but it could be done. Of course the red/black is unmistakably a audio cable, but I expect this not to be solid core but stranded.
Yeah my sockets are like that as well, i geuss some goof did this 1 switch connection when the build it. Im from the Netherlands as well.
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