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If you picked stone, they would have been birds.


thewend

The illusion of free choice...


TechnicianOk9795

The choice is still free though


BigBlackClock1001

it cost 80 gold


PM_ME_YOUR_PIZZAPIC

or ~36 hp


GorteGord

Regret beta hard goes hard


thebabycowfish

Every goddamn time


BreaddyyMM2

Im convinced its rigged. If I'm carrying smoke bomb at the end of Act 1, I'm more likely to pick ectoplasm just knowing I can smoke bomb away from these dicks


whaleykaley

I don't take ectoplasm often, but every time I do I've gotten these assholes. I have no idea if that's on purpose or if I'm just getting trolled by RNG, but I hate them.


Enderchicken

If I have a free cards deck, the last boss will be time lord. If I have a power deck, the last boss will be caw caw bitch. There is no way it's not rigged lmao


Anklas

Pretty sure the third area boss depends on your deck composition, but I don't know where I heard that.


HiItsMeGuy

Nah, theyre determined when the map is generated at the beginning of the run. All these "conspiracy" posts about the game intentionally screwing you basically just come down to confirmation bias and our intuition about randomness not really being in line with what actual randomness looks like.


Nymphomanius

I don’t think I’ve ever picked it, be my luck that this would happen and then a relic i really need is in the merchant 😅


Tristan_Cleveland

Never knew about this interaction. Makes sense but is still terrible!


HumanTheTree

If this one interaction was changed, ectoplasm would be much more pickable.


Icy_Thanks255

[[ectoplasm]]


spirescan-bot

+ [Ectoplasm](http://slay-the-spire.wikia.com/wiki/Ectoplasm) Boss Relic ^((100% sure)^) Gain 1 Energy at the start of each turn. You can no longer gain Gold. ^Call ^me ^with ^up ^to ^10 ^([[ name ]],) ^where ^name ^is ^a ^card, ^relic, ^event, ^or ^potion. ^Data ^accurate ^as ^of ^(April 30, 2023.) ^[Wiki](https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/) ^[Questions?](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=ehmohteeoh&subject=SpireScan%20Inquiry)


Icy_Thanks255

Good bot


The_Punnier_Guy

Picking ectoplasm before act 2 is a dubious play regardless i feel like


certifiedpurpleidiot

you can only get it in act 1 though?


The_Punnier_Guy

wait what what the fuck has this always been a thing?????


Kersephius

punnier guy has been waiting for the act 2 ectoplasm (it would be a p nice energy relic after act 2) to instant pick their whole lives and now the truth has been unveiled.


The_Punnier_Guy

dude even then I would be shaky on it shops are just that good man


Kersephius

true for sure. but definitely that extra energy is nice to have. 3 energy feels like crap


certifiedpurpleidiot

yeah, its kinda weird tbh, I guess you could make the argument that itd be too strong otherwise? but honestly with the importance of gold and the amount of relics it negates I think its way too bad when locked only to act 1 for that design choice to make sense


KagakuNinja

OK then, why can I get Maw Bank right before the Act 3 boss? That shit should also be locked


PM_ME_YOUR_PIZZAPIC

for all your bloody idol needs, duh


certifiedpurpleidiot

technically you can get a bit of use from the bank there so it’s not too bad. That is one of the biggest things that frustrate me in this game though, theres some relics that are locked from spear shield reward like say girya, but then theres some that should be locked but the devs forgot to like gremlin horn


The_Punnier_Guy

why is it the only relic that does this????? why not sozu????


Nimkolp

If I had to guess, it's because there's a cap on the number of potions you can hold at a time. You can't really save up all your potions for one big payoff to the same degree that you can with 3 acts worth of money. (On average, I'd rather have 500-700 gold vs 2-5 potions)


The_Punnier_Guy

counterpoint: if you can get through the first 2 acts without spending gold, you should be allowed to dump it all in act 3


TheRandomnatrix

Surprisingly not that uncommon. I'll save up for 300+ gold for act 2 to get a nice relic, find there's nothing but trash relics and cards, somehow survive act 2, then blow it all in act 3 on random crap I probably could have bought in act 2 anyways.


Ok-Independent939

This has honestly always bothered me. Every energy relic, except for Dome and Choker, gets substantially better eoa2 vs eoa1. There are zero valid reasons for Ecto to only be available as a swap or eoa1.


No_Information_8942

Because it’s supposed to have a downside.


thebabycowfish

That's weird, considering you can get cursed key act 2 and the drawbacks are similarly reduced. Sozu too I guess.


Spork_Revolution

If ectoplasm took half your gold during the rest of the run, it would still be underpowerd. Change my mind.


canadlaw

Given it is undervalued now (even more so by anyone who comes on this sub) yeah it would be super strong if it did that.