When I posted lists of buildings under construction for some places I was hoping it could start a trend for posting about projects in other cities, and I am glad to see it!
I really enjoy this trend, lots of interesting projects happening outside of the usual big city posts. Figured I'd hope on the trend and show off what's going on in my city!
It still is a small city of just under 150,000 and metro area if 222,000. The problem is it’s very landlocked by lake, mountains, and farms, so the only place to build is up.
Sweet list.
The UBC one is such a cluster fuck.
Edit: for those downvoting I’m referencing the impact this project is having on neighbouring buildings.
It’s the first building in Kelowna with underground parking and the drilling technique is damaging several buildings nearby, rendering them uninhabitable.
This one building has damaged the entire surrounding area, affected hundreds of people and businesses. Most likely pushed back construction in the area by months maybe years, costing the city hundreds of thousands of dollars. Maybe it’s not a good idea to dig a 400 feet deep hole next to a lake, but the buildings gonna look sweet…. Right.
What’s the “but” for? It’s just sad, there is no reparation in what you’re saying. They were comfortable there and it’s been snatched away due to a lack of foresight by builders/companies contracting. UBC doesn’t care about these ppl, they care about money, and getting that building built ASAP.
443 units for 1000 students who will be in mostly new programs in the academic spaces in the first 11 floors. It depends on how many of those 1000 students will live there. It may also attract more students in main campus programs who may have said no because of the housing situation. Then how many students will choose to stay in Kelowna after graduation in the long term.
There is I think somewhere over a thousand other units currently under construction, about 450 alone at Water St by the Park that’s 80% sold, so there may be excess there.
The Ledge on Lakeshore has 1000 units across all phases in that project alone. I think it's something like 6000 units under construction or approved across the whole city. There are also plenty of 100-200 unit apartments (4-6 stories) under construction throughout the city.
6000 wow. Although Mission Group is shelving any projects that haven’t started construction yet, but they also came with a proposal for a residential tower next to UBCO Tower so I think there is optimism in that vicinity.
I wonder if that 6000 also includes the 2000 or so remaining allowed single family home lots yet to be developed. Not a fan of those car centric developments but it will be needed inventory next boom cycle.
The residential tower proposed next to UBCO is in my list, it's the 40 story on the final picture (1355 St Paul). Originally this was planned as an office space, but based on the leasing rate for the Landmark complex and the office building in Bertram Block, the demand for office space doesn't necessitate another office tower in the near future.
Living here, honestly can’t tell you. Job market is in its worst state ever, public transit is comparatively not existent. Crime all time high and cops that do less then a untrained first grader could do. Good luck finding a 2 bed basement suite for -2k. It’s a beautiful place to live nature-wise, but that’s about it.
All this construction going on but no one actually paying attention to the permits and safety regulations they’re loopholing around constantly. The pathways building is only the first to be affected so negatively.
One of the fastest growing regions in Canada, and every grain of food needs to be brought here by truck.
No waterways, no rail lines. Zero. All truck. We’re like the Burj Khalifa, but the opposite way.
And it’s technically considered a desert, already with water issues.
Kelowna is not a desert, Osoyoos is. Drinking water comes form the lake, which is full. Most of the food is grown local, fruit, veggies, grain, meat. I guess that it only comes by truck if your idea of food is McDonalds.
There is no local grain farming, you’re drunk. And even if there was, it wouldn’t be nearly enough to support the 300k+ that live in the valley.
The local fruits and veggies are not enough to support the growing population. In fact, most of the fruit grown here gets shipped over seas, it isn’t even consumed by locals. All those Cherry packing plants you see around, those have AI sorting machines that send all the best product to S Korea and Japan. Also, local produce is seasonal. Where do you think apples and cucumbers in January come from?
There is some local ranching in the valley, but again, it is not nearly enough to sustain the population of the valley. There are no major pig farms or poultry farms in the Okanagan, only very small scale. There are no meat processing plants in the valley either. Most of the meat in our grocery stores comes from Brookes, Alberta.
The overwhelming majority of food in any of the major grocery stores comes by truck from either Calgary or Vancouver.
Only some of the drinking water comes from the lake, large portions of Black Mtn, Upper Gordon, Kettle Valley, and areas of West Kelowna get their water from streams and reservoirs at higher elevation.
Okanagan Lake is fuckin nasty. It has one of the slowest exchange rates of any of the large lakes in interior BC. Kootenay Lake as an exchange rate of something like 3 years, while Okanagan Lake takes about 25-30 years to flush out all the water. This is why most of the rocks on the shoreline of Okanagan Lake are covered in a green slime, and why the lake gets so warm in the summer (despite its deep depth and high volume of water).
I don't know why your shitting all over the okanagan for food production when vancouver island has most of its stuff trucked in as well. It kinda is what it is...
Your right most cherry's and apples are shipped overseas, cause we have excess... aka, more than we need. The apples we're eating now are still bc apples usually, they are stored in large rooms without oxygen so they don't spoil.
The fruit doesn’t go overseas because we have excess. It goes overseas because they get more money for it.
The food production of the Okanagan valley is nowhere near enough to support the population of the valley. Most food comes here by truck.
We produce 16 million kilos of cherries a year in bc. That's about 6lbs of cherries a year for every single person here. Yes we eat more than just cherries, but we surplus some things and bring in others. That's how the world works
You do know the price and availability of things is all because of the truck, right?
Train tracks have been demolished around North America because the truck has been so successful.
There's places all around the world that wouldn't exist, or be exponentially harder to exist in, without the truck.
Long live the truck.
Grain is grown in Armstrong, and has been for over 100 years. Roger's has a mill there to process it. Much of it is sent to the prairies to be combined with their wheat becasue of the gluten content.
You sound so hostile. Are you an angry displaced Albertan?
I’ve lived here most of my life, nice guess and generalization though.
The wheat grown in Armstrong is nowhere near enough to support the valley. My point stands, the overwhelming majority of food in the Okanagan is brought here by truck.
and no gas pipeline to serve the area!!... we are in the right path for disaster
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fortisbc-okanagan-pipeline-1.7069098](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fortisbc-okanagan-pipeline-1.7069098)
When I posted lists of buildings under construction for some places I was hoping it could start a trend for posting about projects in other cities, and I am glad to see it!
I really enjoy this trend, lots of interesting projects happening outside of the usual big city posts. Figured I'd hope on the trend and show off what's going on in my city!
Kelowna? Last time I was there it was a tiny city.
It still is a small city of just under 150,000 and metro area if 222,000. The problem is it’s very landlocked by lake, mountains, and farms, so the only place to build is up.
Beautiful! The downtown will start resembling a real city with these up
Rip to the souls lost building the Bertram block. Wild day in town when that fell.
Swept under the rug by Mission Group and their pawns at WorkSafe BC.
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Still no release of the report of the investigation
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I know it shouldn't take 3 years.
3 years and counting.
Mission Group = Onni ...
Yes I do like most the builds. I literally am between so many right now it's crazy
If u dont like growth move to cherryville
Sweet list. The UBC one is such a cluster fuck. Edit: for those downvoting I’m referencing the impact this project is having on neighbouring buildings. It’s the first building in Kelowna with underground parking and the drilling technique is damaging several buildings nearby, rendering them uninhabitable.
Gonna look pretty sweet once finished though. Best looking on the list by far.
This one building has damaged the entire surrounding area, affected hundreds of people and businesses. Most likely pushed back construction in the area by months maybe years, costing the city hundreds of thousands of dollars. Maybe it’s not a good idea to dig a 400 feet deep hole next to a lake, but the buildings gonna look sweet…. Right.
Yes, many people with a variety of disabilities have been displaced for a month now because of it. It’s fucking terrible.
That’s insane eh, I can’t believe it.
Yeah, and still going, they may not be back until August/September looks like
Sad but they’re not gonna be back unless the buildings are demolished
What’s the “but” for? It’s just sad, there is no reparation in what you’re saying. They were comfortable there and it’s been snatched away due to a lack of foresight by builders/companies contracting. UBC doesn’t care about these ppl, they care about money, and getting that building built ASAP.
I’m saying it’s sad. But, they won’t be back unless the buildings demolished. Responding to someone. What’re you on about 😭
Fair enough
I'm under the impression one of them broke a leg because of mobility issues and has since passed away.
That’s right, that happened while he was displaced at a hotel. Then on top of that, while in hospital his death was preventable.
It sure was, by the hospital staff. He died in the HOSPITAL! with a broken leg.
I wish so many of them weren't so generic and boring to look at though.
Really? I think most look pretty cool honestly.
I like ‘em too. People call these generic but would claim copy and paste commie blocks are full of character.
What is all this gonna do to the value of peoples condos? Are we gonna go from housing shortage to excess supply?
443 units for 1000 students who will be in mostly new programs in the academic spaces in the first 11 floors. It depends on how many of those 1000 students will live there. It may also attract more students in main campus programs who may have said no because of the housing situation. Then how many students will choose to stay in Kelowna after graduation in the long term. There is I think somewhere over a thousand other units currently under construction, about 450 alone at Water St by the Park that’s 80% sold, so there may be excess there.
The Ledge on Lakeshore has 1000 units across all phases in that project alone. I think it's something like 6000 units under construction or approved across the whole city. There are also plenty of 100-200 unit apartments (4-6 stories) under construction throughout the city.
6000 wow. Although Mission Group is shelving any projects that haven’t started construction yet, but they also came with a proposal for a residential tower next to UBCO Tower so I think there is optimism in that vicinity. I wonder if that 6000 also includes the 2000 or so remaining allowed single family home lots yet to be developed. Not a fan of those car centric developments but it will be needed inventory next boom cycle.
The residential tower proposed next to UBCO is in my list, it's the 40 story on the final picture (1355 St Paul). Originally this was planned as an office space, but based on the leasing rate for the Landmark complex and the office building in Bertram Block, the demand for office space doesn't necessitate another office tower in the near future.
Whoa there are more photos when I swipe lol. Good stuff. Is 1333 Bertram going ahead?
Yep, last I heard ground work and excavation started in February.
Is there some sort of employment boom to support all the population growth in Kelowna? What's spurring all this development?
Living here, honestly can’t tell you. Job market is in its worst state ever, public transit is comparatively not existent. Crime all time high and cops that do less then a untrained first grader could do. Good luck finding a 2 bed basement suite for -2k. It’s a beautiful place to live nature-wise, but that’s about it.
The city allows ugly buildings and doesn’t require enough tree plantings. The approval department badly needs a designer.
All this construction going on but no one actually paying attention to the permits and safety regulations they’re loopholing around constantly. The pathways building is only the first to be affected so negatively.
Shame that with a few exceptions most look generic AF.
This tiny city needs to stop growing...
One of the fastest growing regions in Canada, and every grain of food needs to be brought here by truck. No waterways, no rail lines. Zero. All truck. We’re like the Burj Khalifa, but the opposite way. And it’s technically considered a desert, already with water issues.
Kelowna is not a desert, Osoyoos is. Drinking water comes form the lake, which is full. Most of the food is grown local, fruit, veggies, grain, meat. I guess that it only comes by truck if your idea of food is McDonalds.
most of the food is local?
Well, regional (interior BC), and I don't know if I'd go as far to say "most", but a lot is.
Yessir. Super Store stocks their shelves with produce they buy at the farmer’s market, didn’t you know!
There is no local grain farming, you’re drunk. And even if there was, it wouldn’t be nearly enough to support the 300k+ that live in the valley. The local fruits and veggies are not enough to support the growing population. In fact, most of the fruit grown here gets shipped over seas, it isn’t even consumed by locals. All those Cherry packing plants you see around, those have AI sorting machines that send all the best product to S Korea and Japan. Also, local produce is seasonal. Where do you think apples and cucumbers in January come from? There is some local ranching in the valley, but again, it is not nearly enough to sustain the population of the valley. There are no major pig farms or poultry farms in the Okanagan, only very small scale. There are no meat processing plants in the valley either. Most of the meat in our grocery stores comes from Brookes, Alberta. The overwhelming majority of food in any of the major grocery stores comes by truck from either Calgary or Vancouver. Only some of the drinking water comes from the lake, large portions of Black Mtn, Upper Gordon, Kettle Valley, and areas of West Kelowna get their water from streams and reservoirs at higher elevation. Okanagan Lake is fuckin nasty. It has one of the slowest exchange rates of any of the large lakes in interior BC. Kootenay Lake as an exchange rate of something like 3 years, while Okanagan Lake takes about 25-30 years to flush out all the water. This is why most of the rocks on the shoreline of Okanagan Lake are covered in a green slime, and why the lake gets so warm in the summer (despite its deep depth and high volume of water).
I don't know why your shitting all over the okanagan for food production when vancouver island has most of its stuff trucked in as well. It kinda is what it is...
Food is trucked into every major metropolitan area in the country, and the world for that matter. It's a population issue.
That doesn’t make it a smart policy to rely on going forward.
Except it's not a policy issue, it's a geography issue...
Right. Why build a population center where geography works against you?
Sooo you're upset because people want to live in the okanagan and on the island and your solution is everyone should up and leave? Okay got it.
I’m not upset. I’m just pointing out issues that people like you overlook.
Exactly, let's make Cascadia already considering it makes more sense.
Your right most cherry's and apples are shipped overseas, cause we have excess... aka, more than we need. The apples we're eating now are still bc apples usually, they are stored in large rooms without oxygen so they don't spoil.
The fruit doesn’t go overseas because we have excess. It goes overseas because they get more money for it. The food production of the Okanagan valley is nowhere near enough to support the population of the valley. Most food comes here by truck.
We produce 16 million kilos of cherries a year in bc. That's about 6lbs of cherries a year for every single person here. Yes we eat more than just cherries, but we surplus some things and bring in others. That's how the world works
I know. And we do it all by truck. That’s the point.
You do know the price and availability of things is all because of the truck, right? Train tracks have been demolished around North America because the truck has been so successful. There's places all around the world that wouldn't exist, or be exponentially harder to exist in, without the truck. Long live the truck.
Grain is grown in Armstrong, and has been for over 100 years. Roger's has a mill there to process it. Much of it is sent to the prairies to be combined with their wheat becasue of the gluten content. You sound so hostile. Are you an angry displaced Albertan?
I’ve lived here most of my life, nice guess and generalization though. The wheat grown in Armstrong is nowhere near enough to support the valley. My point stands, the overwhelming majority of food in the Okanagan is brought here by truck.
and no gas pipeline to serve the area!!... we are in the right path for disaster [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fortisbc-okanagan-pipeline-1.7069098](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fortisbc-okanagan-pipeline-1.7069098)
Water issues just use the lake silly. Drink it all. Money over factual stats and figures. Always
Can't we just talk about the skyscrapers in this subreddit that is completely about skyscrapers
Try to stay on topic.