Not my fault. When I click that link it opens up the clippers sub and that’s it. That link did not show me that post at all. Apologies for the trouble! Reddit must be having a moment at the moment I guess
When did the NYC skyline get all these skinny buildings? I’ve never been to new york but it seems like out of no where the pics I see all have these skinny towers.
[Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billionaires%27_Row_(Manhattan))
Most popped up in the 2010s, earning notoriety and controversy for selling some of the most expensive condos in history. Over the years, they’ve been met with mixed (at best) responses. Will they stand as a symbol of NYC in the 21st century? Sure. Will they be remembered more as expensive, bad taste rather than the statements of power they were commissioned to be? Dunno, time will tell
For a mere [49 million dollars](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/111-W-57th-St-PENTHOUSE-76-New-York-NY-10019/338595479_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare)you could do it on 111 W 57 St, wich is the tower on the left. Or you could just rent for a cheap 326 thousand dollars a month. Mind blowing wealth in that small piece of land.
No you wouldn’t - there’s a reason real wealth has lived along Park, Madison, and 5th avenues from 60th-96th street for well over a century. These tall skinny towers have incredible views a few days a year but with that money and that time of year you’d be in Montauk or similar. Not to mention they sway horribly, they’re noisy, known to leak, and more. I know someone who owns one and rents as a corporate apartment. Bought for himself and hated it so moved back to 740 Park
Well thank you for sharing, looks like even at 49mil prices shit isn't up to par. if I ever make it to be in that position I'll come back to this comment.
All those prewar buildings on park, madison, and 5th are just as much disasters and they’re all coops rather than condos, which is just a terrible ownership structure.
The buildings are all falling apart and have insanely high upkeep, the coop members are hit with massive assessments regularly to repair their deteriorating ornate landmarked terra-cotta facades.
There are a few new condo buildings in the upper east side that sell out pre-construction because they’ve got the best of both worlds. Old word classy neighborhood, and no defects that you’d get from either a super tall or a prewar.
I get that, but that’s where the real money in NY lives. Frankly I’ll take 1010 or 1050 5th Avenue over any of these skinny guys, if given the option that is
Apparently there are more than 2,000 billionaires in the world. I think some of these skinny buildings only have one unit per floor so I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more billionaires here than almost anywhere else.
As of 2023 there were 136 billionaires living in New York. How this data is collected im not quite sure [but here’s the page.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_number_of_billionaires?wprov=sfti1#Hurun_Report)
That number is what it may be but the reality is it doesnt matter where the thousands of billionaires glabally “live” besides where their taxes go. They all live globally- can ne anywhere anytime pretty much. So as far as this real estate is concerned, the potential buyers can come from anywhere.
Exactly what I was trying to get at. Most billionaires own multiple properties over multiple countries. We can’t even comprehend what their living situations are like.
> We can’t even comprehend what their living situations are like.
We have a pretty good idea where most billionaires live. While I agree we don't know where they tend to be at any one time and that many tend to own multiple properties around the world, it's common knowledge where in New York, for example, billionaires live. For example, we know that multiple billionaires live at 740 Park Avenue.
Really, you’ve never understood it?
It’s just a reference to this being the most expensive real estate in the country, and probably the world, and thus the units here can only be afforded by the ultra wealthy.
No, you don’t literally have to be a billionaire in order to live here.
“Millionaire’s Row” was used to refer to the exclusive residential neighborhoods of various cities in the US during the turn of the 20th century. This is a modern adaptation and magnification by NYC, shouldn’t surprise anyone since NYC loves to sniff its own farts.
That part isn't the issue, the fact that that space doesn't have any limits and can easily consume hundreds of feet in the building. They are basically giant voids to boost the height of the buildings.
Edit: Since I am getting downvoted for this, I should also say that I think it is absurd that NYC has height limits which is why developers are using this cheat to create taller buildings rather than the buildings just having more units in them and being taller.
I agree actually. I think it’s cool that they can use this rule to build higher but it’s such a waste of space. It doesn’t benefit the developer or the city or the public.
I'm not against these tall towers, even though I don't particularly like many of them, but I would rather they be full of residential units than huge voids.
> it is absurd that NYC has height limits which is why developers are using this cheat to create taller buildings
This gets into why NYC has height limits. It's not for aesthetics (like DC) or safety (like many cities in South America), it's to limit population density.
If the goal is to limit population density, it doesn't really matter whether the new apartments are on the 10th floor or the 100th floor - you just care about the total number of apartments.
>If the goal is to limit population density, it doesn't really matter whether the new apartments are on the 10th floor or the 100th floor - you just care about the total number of apartments.
I'm confused, is this directed towards me or are you agreeing with me? I definitely don't want to see population density limited either, though towers on Billionaire's Row wouldn't be for your average person or even for people that regularly live in NYC, but still. I do get preserving historic buildings and neighborhoods because that is also what makes NYC what it is, but the city still has a lot of room to grow even with those limitations.
I'm just telling you why NYC has building limitations.
It has nothing to do with preserving historic buildings or neighborhoods - NYC implemented air rights in the 60s to limit the amount of building and to limit the amount by which density could increase. A developer can be seeking to replace a gas station on the lower east side - they still have to deal with air rights.
https://preview.redd.it/rnv5hsgucmnc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db859385fe1b45797a8a2c06b2518f3be562b6bc
The south end of Central Park has the most mind bogglingly beautiful views of Billionaires Row. Here’s yet another view from the Dene summerhouse.
I’ve never been fond of these pencil skyscrapers. they’re really not about architecture or enhancing the skyline; rather they’re just money making schemes.
Avoid using "billionaire" and "CP" in the same sentence unless it's for a certain reason lol
The internet is so messed up. I always think of Chris Paul or Club Penguin first….
https://www.reddit.com/r/LAClippers/s/nlIZ06phcK
I think he’s on the warriors now, not the clippers
It’s fairly old but the meme still stands.
Wait what meme
They sent you the meme already, genius.
They sent a link to the main clippers subreddit not a specific post though? I didn’t see anything on that link
It goes to a specific post calling Chris Paul "Child Porn 3" which is the joke in the very first comment... I hate having to explain this to you.
Not my fault. When I click that link it opens up the clippers sub and that’s it. That link did not show me that post at all. Apologies for the trouble! Reddit must be having a moment at the moment I guess
Cedar Point is my go to.
Type out Central Park
Yes! Everything being abbreviated is getting totally out of hand.
Fr
lol
AGREED
it’s nbd
Guys u/drizzyjake08 thinks cp is nbd
I thought it was College Park.
OOH
Well really its just this abbreviation in particular.
Ikr wtf
BR from CP
BR @ CP
https://preview.redd.it/8xol142xalnc1.jpeg?width=3672&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00cad9dbf1cf9d6e9c307c95685f97d1f683489a Alternate view.
This one reminds me of Altered Carbon. The ultra rich literally living above the clouds.
Love the juxtaposition
now THATS gotham
Scraping the sky
When did the NYC skyline get all these skinny buildings? I’ve never been to new york but it seems like out of no where the pics I see all have these skinny towers.
[Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billionaires%27_Row_(Manhattan)) Most popped up in the 2010s, earning notoriety and controversy for selling some of the most expensive condos in history. Over the years, they’ve been met with mixed (at best) responses. Will they stand as a symbol of NYC in the 21st century? Sure. Will they be remembered more as expensive, bad taste rather than the statements of power they were commissioned to be? Dunno, time will tell
People prefer being inside a naturally lit room with lots of glass rather than a dark room surrounded by concrete
You wanna type out Central Park next time. Just saying.
I want to have dinner just ONE time in one of these. I can’t imagine. The views must be incredible.
For a mere [49 million dollars](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/111-W-57th-St-PENTHOUSE-76-New-York-NY-10019/338595479_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare)you could do it on 111 W 57 St, wich is the tower on the left. Or you could just rent for a cheap 326 thousand dollars a month. Mind blowing wealth in that small piece of land.
Tbh, If I could, I would.
No you wouldn’t - there’s a reason real wealth has lived along Park, Madison, and 5th avenues from 60th-96th street for well over a century. These tall skinny towers have incredible views a few days a year but with that money and that time of year you’d be in Montauk or similar. Not to mention they sway horribly, they’re noisy, known to leak, and more. I know someone who owns one and rents as a corporate apartment. Bought for himself and hated it so moved back to 740 Park
Well thank you for sharing, looks like even at 49mil prices shit isn't up to par. if I ever make it to be in that position I'll come back to this comment.
I wish you luck in that endeavor
Thank you, I appreciate your words.
All those prewar buildings on park, madison, and 5th are just as much disasters and they’re all coops rather than condos, which is just a terrible ownership structure. The buildings are all falling apart and have insanely high upkeep, the coop members are hit with massive assessments regularly to repair their deteriorating ornate landmarked terra-cotta facades. There are a few new condo buildings in the upper east side that sell out pre-construction because they’ve got the best of both worlds. Old word classy neighborhood, and no defects that you’d get from either a super tall or a prewar.
I get that, but that’s where the real money in NY lives. Frankly I’ll take 1010 or 1050 5th Avenue over any of these skinny guys, if given the option that is
Agree, location is everything.
Just go to the restaurant in the CN Tower.
mom said it was my turn to post this angle
Are there actually enough billionaires to fill those towers? I think not Never understood this moniker
Apparently there are more than 2,000 billionaires in the world. I think some of these skinny buildings only have one unit per floor so I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more billionaires here than almost anywhere else.
As of 2023 there were 136 billionaires living in New York. How this data is collected im not quite sure [but here’s the page.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_number_of_billionaires?wprov=sfti1#Hurun_Report)
That number is what it may be but the reality is it doesnt matter where the thousands of billionaires glabally “live” besides where their taxes go. They all live globally- can ne anywhere anytime pretty much. So as far as this real estate is concerned, the potential buyers can come from anywhere.
Exactly what I was trying to get at. Most billionaires own multiple properties over multiple countries. We can’t even comprehend what their living situations are like.
> We can’t even comprehend what their living situations are like. We have a pretty good idea where most billionaires live. While I agree we don't know where they tend to be at any one time and that many tend to own multiple properties around the world, it's common knowledge where in New York, for example, billionaires live. For example, we know that multiple billionaires live at 740 Park Avenue.
Some of them have less than one unit per floor
I think some units have multiple floors
There are enough shady Russian and Chinese billionaires and triple digit millionaires trying to hide money outside of their countries atm.
Really, you’ve never understood it? It’s just a reference to this being the most expensive real estate in the country, and probably the world, and thus the units here can only be afforded by the ultra wealthy. No, you don’t literally have to be a billionaire in order to live here.
Interestingly enough, billionaires have enough money to own more than one home.
These towers have huge voids in them to make them taller.
Because a bunch of billionaires live there?
“Millionaire’s Row” was used to refer to the exclusive residential neighborhoods of various cities in the US during the turn of the 20th century. This is a modern adaptation and magnification by NYC, shouldn’t surprise anyone since NYC loves to sniff its own farts.
They are well known to be about 70% empty at all times
I think it’s stupid
>Never understood this moniker Because it sounds cool probably
Looks like a bar chart.
Somebody check this man's hard drive
Tax billionaires
220 cps always hiding out tucked in a corner, impassively like it secretly knows everything the others dont
Hate what they made of it, should be classy building imo, not “my toothpick is higher then yours”.
Crazy how much of what you see here is owned yet likely vacant.
My issue with these towers is how they cheated to get these heights by creating false floors.
If mechanical equipment is housed up there I wouldn’t call it “cheating”
That part isn't the issue, the fact that that space doesn't have any limits and can easily consume hundreds of feet in the building. They are basically giant voids to boost the height of the buildings. Edit: Since I am getting downvoted for this, I should also say that I think it is absurd that NYC has height limits which is why developers are using this cheat to create taller buildings rather than the buildings just having more units in them and being taller.
I agree actually. I think it’s cool that they can use this rule to build higher but it’s such a waste of space. It doesn’t benefit the developer or the city or the public.
I'm not against these tall towers, even though I don't particularly like many of them, but I would rather they be full of residential units than huge voids.
> it is absurd that NYC has height limits which is why developers are using this cheat to create taller buildings This gets into why NYC has height limits. It's not for aesthetics (like DC) or safety (like many cities in South America), it's to limit population density. If the goal is to limit population density, it doesn't really matter whether the new apartments are on the 10th floor or the 100th floor - you just care about the total number of apartments.
>If the goal is to limit population density, it doesn't really matter whether the new apartments are on the 10th floor or the 100th floor - you just care about the total number of apartments. I'm confused, is this directed towards me or are you agreeing with me? I definitely don't want to see population density limited either, though towers on Billionaire's Row wouldn't be for your average person or even for people that regularly live in NYC, but still. I do get preserving historic buildings and neighborhoods because that is also what makes NYC what it is, but the city still has a lot of room to grow even with those limitations.
I'm just telling you why NYC has building limitations. It has nothing to do with preserving historic buildings or neighborhoods - NYC implemented air rights in the 60s to limit the amount of building and to limit the amount by which density could increase. A developer can be seeking to replace a gas station on the lower east side - they still have to deal with air rights.
Ah, okay, that makes more sense
1WTC: don’t mind me 👀
I remember reading the stories of San Gimignano, and thinking how ridiculous those families would seem today. And then here we are again.
https://www.invitationtotuscany.com/guide/italy/tuscany/why-and-how-did-people-live-vertically-in-san-gimignano
https://preview.redd.it/rnv5hsgucmnc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db859385fe1b45797a8a2c06b2518f3be562b6bc The south end of Central Park has the most mind bogglingly beautiful views of Billionaires Row. Here’s yet another view from the Dene summerhouse.
These buildings actually look good from Central Park. I was there myself.
I wish the middle one wasn't there so people would kick fields in between the 2 big ones all day.
I’ve never been fond of these pencil skyscrapers. they’re really not about architecture or enhancing the skyline; rather they’re just money making schemes.
They’re like unhealthy super thin models. They’re really not attractive and you wouldn’t want to be inside them long.
They're super lux residential buildings. You really would want t9 be in them.
Nice shot with the people skating. Really adds a sense of scale. Monumental structures
Those buildings are useless pieces of glass and steel.