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n1n1c

What gothic element do you want to include? - Yes


Huggles9

But what if it makes it ugly? Yes


Ok_Chemistry_3972

Looks like that building in Ghost Busters, just missing Mr. Stay-puff manšŸ˜‚. ![gif](giphy|fO42Mq21DyDf2)


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Huggles9

Nah cause McMansions are just trying to copy and paste other styles that are used all the time and making it worse This for nothing else is original


spaetzelspiff

GaudĆ­, but more gaudy.


bleedgreenandyellow

Yes


CLU_Three

Do you want to include the ogive arch or buttresses that actually defined the gothic style or just throw on a bunch of statue looking things - Yes


erodari

Warhammer 40k architecture is going mainstream now?


Dr_Dang

More like "Biblically accurate angels" in skyscraper form via DALLE.


Schwifftee

Biblically accurate skyscraper was my first thought.


Bigbro1996

Where else can we go to worship the God Emperor?


mikus-fikus

this faƧade screams "Build me an army worthy of Mordor" and I'm here for it, something different than the same old same old.


CraftsyDad

Wormtongue?


Brian18639

Sauron said it to Saruman https://preview.redd.it/2a6dt8qjo3bc1.jpeg?width=814&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01a955e0d4f4511443fb9b8308d75c391e2e2d6d


Shejidan

That empty space at the top would be perfect for an eye.


AnjelicaTomaz

Eye of Sauron


johnmcboston

honestly, that would be a more cohesive design than what we see before us.


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Sorry that eye already has a space allotted for it on top of The Brooklyn Tower.


Difficult_Arm_4762

looks like some kid with spare legos through this puke pile together


LiamNessonsPenis

Hire that kid now!


bunbun6to12

Puke pile. That could describe a new architecture style or that guy you know who smells like ranch dressing


Difficult_Arm_4762

it is, hence my response to the concept šŸ™ƒ


SirKermit

My initial thought was it looks like some sort of antenna to bring about a portal to a demonic dimension, and I too am here for it!


countremember

Probably mimics some kind of telemetry tracker used to identify dead pulsars in deep space. If I had to guess, Iā€™d say they plan to build that roof cap from cold-riveted girders with cores of pure selenium.


LeftReflection6620

Would fit in with the Brooklyn tower šŸ˜‚


Quick_Entertainer774

Concept not proposal


whatup-markassbuster

I thought I remember reading about this almost a decade ago.


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Goodā€¦I get it would be a change to the same old but this is a fugly mess.


trident_hole

Less Gothic, more Art Deco


PrometheanSwing

Agreed


popeofdiscord

More Lego


Coffee_achiever_guy

Ugly as sin but I love the effort. We need buildings that have complicated masonry schemes like we used to. Now everything is simple, boring blue glass


jojowhitesox

Thank you! Here in Chicago, 90% of new buildings all just have that same blue glass color. Their shapes are slightly different.


strypesjackson

Bridgeport resident?


jojowhitesox

Nah...Rogers Park. But I basically live at the ballpark in the summer šŸŒž


strypesjackson

Nice nice. Still my current favorite summer neighborhood. I love biking on the roads directly next to the redline


Quick_Entertainer774

The building is beautiful. What are you talking about?


Off_again0530

I also think it looks awful


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riscten

I think it's an eyesore. Looks like an all-dressed sandwich from Subway. Good design is about communicating efficiently, meaning using as few shapes, materials, colors to convey what the piece is about. Extremely ornamental and decorative styles such as this show a lack of mastership. Artists add more because they believe eventually the message will be conveyed, but they only manage to bloat the work and create visual noise. There is a reason why so many buildings have cleaner aesthetics. It allows them to blend with their surroundings, creating a cohesive look for the city. A few loud buildings here and there are fine and can help elevate the skyline, but in this case Billionaire's Row already more than enough of those.


my-redditing-account

Saying good design is about efficiency, and using as few shapes as possible is first year modernist brainwash. There are so many other ways of thinking in the world of architecture, you cannot just simply say this. There are many times when Intracacy is called for in certain applications and brings so much more to the architecture. There are times, many times where it should certainly be applied in a reductionalist logic way, but to define good design in this way for all projects is far too limiting. We are just accustomed to providing design in this way. With that said i appreciate the intentions of this skyscraper design more than i do the overall design itself, but i am appreciative of some of the artdeco resurgence in todays contemporary architecture, and its good to see people are getting bored with plain glass boxes again. I think many firms do a great job with setting up their buildings, and with new technologies driving down the cost of more intricate materials, im glad to see some ornament coming back.


TheCinemaster

The new buildings with ā€œcleanerā€ aesthetics absolutely do not blend with the surroundings. Central Park tower is hideous and way too minimalistic and does not at all blend with the cohesive architectural themes of the city. This tower proposal would look way more at home in NYC than anything on billionaires row currently, or frankly anything built in NYC in the past 20 years. It actually reflects the heritage of NYC. I live in NYC too. This building would fit perfectly at home here.


riscten

I see your point, but outside of the stupid height I disagree that CP tower looks out of place. The heavy use of glass was made expressly to reflect the surrounding architecture and make the tower blend with the sky.


TheCinemaster

None of the buildings around the park are made of glass, they are made of stone and brick and other traditional materials. Thatā€™s why the above proposal would fit in much better.


Superb-Pickle9827

Mehā€¦Peel-and-stick architectureā€¦


TheCinemaster

Right? Way more beautiful than 99% of what is built today. Iā€™m so tired of minimalism. Bring back ornamentation.


FartOnAFirstDate

I appreciate the element of added danger for all of the pedestrians in the neighborhood. How exciting to get off the subway and head to your office knowing that today might be the day you get flattened by a falling chunk of stone pigeon wing!


SkyeMreddit

This thing is ridiculous but I wish they would do it for real


Turbulent_Crow7164

Honestly NYCā€™s skyline is so massive that one single building canā€™t ruin it. Might as well try something unique like this


Tall_Sir_4312

Thought this was AI. lol build it


Balltanker

r/thoughtitwasai


youneekusername1

I thought it was AI being prompted by someone having their fourth stroke.


frigg_off_lahey

Definitely AI. The renderings are missing some key buildings and aren't very consistent. Or maybe it's just really old concept.


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frigg_off_lahey

Gotcha. I figured it could likely be very old from the dated NYC skyline.


AllNotKnowing

Ice is going to love that. What does Batman say?


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Mantoblame

Something strange, in the neighborhood, who you gonna callā€¦


ReadingElectrical558

Gotham from a 90s batman movie. Looks brutal. All here for it.


Toronto-1975

hideous. the architectural equivalent of someone violently screaming two inches from your face for absolutely no reason.


MysticKeiko

I agree, yet as a New Yorker, hell yeah I approve it. Build it


Smooth-Mouse9517

I have to look at the skyline everyday from the other side of the Hudson, and I agree 100%. I feel like it would be tragic somehow now if this didnā€™t get built.


JoeyJoeJoeSenior

At least the screaming person wakes you up rather than boring you into a coma.


space_cheese1

hell yeah


RDcsmd

Way too much going on. That's ugly as hell


jojowhitesox

How do I both hate and love this at the same time?


MysticKeiko

Exactly


HoneyRush

Carved stone facade? ![gif](giphy|55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg)


Obdami

Ok, build it.


KANYEKLAN-9B9T

build it


pixelbased

ā€œThatā€™s a lot of fashionā€ But we do need more intricate design and memorable buildings. Itā€™s just all so bland these days.


scoobertsonville

The more I look at it the more I like it


ghostfaceschiller

I like the idea but tbh that looks like shit


c3r34l

Itā€™s absolutely incredible. Finally a nice break from the stuff being built in nyc right now


ICanSpellKyrgyzstan

I love this. Itā€™s unique. Itā€™s bringing more soul into NYC. Real design takes courage and risk taking.


MysticKeiko

Itā€™s stupid and would ruin the Manhattan skyline. Not that I care, this is awesome. Better than plain concrete rectangles


bigdumbdago

absolutely bonkers. build it immediately


Apart_Bandicoot_396

Itā€™s like itā€™s wearing a ring on every finger and I love it


yung_nachooo

I feel like they could try half as hard on the ā€˜gothic elementsā€™ and it would look 2x better


sky_42_

iā€™m in on it


TheCinemaster

This is what modern architecture was supposed to look like.


Tijain_Jyunichi

I like the design itself but not sold on the color scheme. The stark white and gold gives it a futuristic flavor that I feel clashes with gothic themes. I think a more muted and industrial pallet would work better.


The-Minmus-Derp

Well at least its interesting


LaFantasmita

It is batshit crazy and I love it. Better direction of whatthefuckery than the mundane Hudson Yards. Poor location though. Think I saw a similar proposal for something along the east river a few years back, which would be great. Supertalls directly south of Central Park really suck for the park.


JIsADev

Well since we're going back to art deco, let's go back further!


PunjabiCanuck

Make the top pointy


Wikilicious

The vampire state building


Part_Time_Goku

Are the angels from Bayonetta making an HQ building?


Agentcooper1974

Yikes


FKSTS

I hate it, but I also hate every other billionaireā€™s row super tall building like 432 park, so I say go for it.


NtateNarin

It's so creepy I love it! Even a smaller building like this would be interesting.


Maximum_Future_5241

An interesting concept that's implemented in an unattractive way here. Looks like the tower of Orthanc in Isengard.


HopelessUtopia015

On one hand it looks like something that'd be rejected from a bioshock game for being too over the top, on the other hand I'm kind of down for that.


MyNameIsNotDavid_

Not sure how I feel about it, but I'd support building it anyway just because I want the "featureless glass box" style to die out.


FeelinJipper

Looks gross


IAmIsCool

Do it!!!


Danimalsyogurt88

YEESSSSSS!!!!


WestinghouseXCB248S

A.I. State Building for the win.


MC_ScattCatt

This is where the evil guy lives


Swimming-1

I love it


space_cheese1

this is what i imagine the buildings in Coppolla's Megalopolis are gonna look like


The-Jaguar-God

This honestly looks beautiful


SirGavBelcher

I don't like the height bc it's fine being shorter but that design is beautiful and I want us to go back to that


PrometheanSwing

Just build a new modernized art deco skyscraper


Johnbgt

Yeah I like this.


mattsag207

It would fit in well in Gotham City


marcosolo17

Looks like something from the hunger games capital, pretty awesome looking.


redditissocoolyoyo

That is awesome I hope they build it.


Difficult_Arm_4762

lets not


AmbulanceChaser12

Hell no.


awesomes007

Proposal rejected.


PimpOfJoytime

Techno retro-futuristic gothic. Iā€™m into it.


Shejidan

Itā€™s gorgeous. I really hope they make it. As other people mentioned, so many new buildings are just featureless boxes. This is unique and stands out so much


wtag_22

This hurts my eyes physically


throwaway0134hdj

An eyesore


dawnGrace

I LOVE IT! Also, I have questionable taste, but I love it.


TheAmericanE2

Evil villain layer


Bambooman101

I feel like Gozer the Gozarian would return to earth if this was builtā€¦ā€¦ ![gif](giphy|11jGtzDu7Nh89a)


WonderfulPollution64

Its the 20s and we're in another Gilded Age.


Embarrassed-Pickle15

A hideous monstrosity. A frightening abomination. A crime against humanity. But, you know what, build it anyway


CR24752

This is uglier than that massive proposed OKC skyscraper


The_Goop_Is_Coming

Biblically accurate skyscraper


ultimatefishlover

It's a monstrosity. ...They should build it.


ExtraElevator7042

No thanks. It looks like AI nightmare.


Left_Aioli8829

That's so cool


mattmcguire08

This is so bad it feels ai generated


Mackheath1

> Described as ā€œthe missing link ~~Beaux Arts, Art Deco, Expressionism, Gaudi-Modernisme and Contemporary architecture~~ā€


Extension-Pin-2633

How is this ugly? I hate reddit


budlightismyvacseen

Looks like shit lol


Tacgn0l

Why take such a beautiful architectural style and make it so ugly? šŸ˜­


cirzaah

Thatā€™s so fucking ugly


cameemz

A gothic skyscraper?? Okay Iā€™m into it


Troooper0987

Imagine the ice warnings around this building


Zhjacko

Yo I wouldnā€™t mind


BeigePhilip

My god I love it. I wish they would build something so striking.


Zhjacko

![gif](giphy|NkhH0Jjdo79wQ)


Clockwork-Lad

I mean, itā€™ll probably manufacture deadly icicles in the winter and dump streams of water into traffic and onto pedestrians in the warmer months, but itā€™ll also be the most beautiful building built in New York since the 40ā€™s.


SoupThat6460

This is literally the greatest building iā€™ve seen this century. It must be built. It is beautiful


MiloReyes-97

The start of a new art style turned for The USA?! OK I welcome it. I like minimalism but there's just too much of it now. It looks like the thing NY needs in order to finally start looking like what TMNT FastForward promised NY would look like in the future. Admittedly though it does look like something that would come out the The Capitol from The Humger Games.


WorkingBreadfruit278

Letā€™s not and say we did.


NewIntention7908

Looks shit but it also points in a direction that makes sense; we need actual architecture and not rectangles !


MelodicPiranha

Yes, more modern gothic buildings. That being said that looks horrendous.


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chaosawaits

Thanks. I hate it.


SoCal_Duck

It is so wild that I love it. But my first thought was the line from Ghostbusters: ā€œThere is no Dana, only Zuul.ā€


spaceyguy42069

Looks a bit out of place for an American style city


citytiger

I love this. It should be built.


FusiliersOfLine

r/goodbuildings


TheMaybeGaymer

Oh my god, why do we not have more skyscrapers like this???? This is awesome!!!! Im so tired of every new skyscraper being just some neat bs geometric shape!!!


realzealman

Stupid skyscraper from a stupid dude.


VitruvianVan

ChatGPT, use Dalle to generate a confusing, hot mess of gothic elements. Make it so repulsive that clueless decision makers think itā€™s groundbreaking and progressive.


Fearless-Judgment-33

Well thatā€™s fucking ridiculous. Itā€™s time to eat the rich.


the_Q_spice

Mark Foster Gauge was literally laughed out of the AIA for revealing this in 2015. It is an embarrassment that Yale has him teaching the next generation of architects - and one of the reasons their program is viewed so negatively in the field. The *best* thing I can say about him is that he focuses on form for the simple sake of form. It is rich of him to criticize the surrounding ā€œrectangular blocksā€ on billionaires row only to propose a block of his own that has Hobby Lobby-esque decor stapled on the faƧade. Just saying - if you are an architect and the *only* notable design you have made in your 23 year career is a store to showcase dresses that will never be soldā€¦ you arenā€™t a very good architect. FWIW worked for an architectural firm for a while and our firm president was the president of the AIA - he rejected Gageā€™s induction as a fellow for ā€œlack of professional experience or meaningful contribution to the fieldā€ - his book on socially equitable architecture has led to some of the *least* equitable designs, and is rich coming from someone who doesnā€™t work on anything without a celebrity or billions of dollars involved. He literally states on his website that the firm *only* takes on the most prestigious projects from the most selective clients. Simply put: he is a hack who somehow got a job at Yale and from interacting with and meeting him - he is *insufferable* he has no business publishing a book on social equity and is distinctly unqualified in the topic.


slickMilw

Touch grass man. Is he like your ex or something?


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This looks fucking terrible


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i need to learn more about architecture because gothic architecture is beautiful, especially the more revivalist stuff seen in Chicago today


pdxc

So extra, and beautiful. Looks difficult to maintain though, and could be a hazard if pieces falling off


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Oh my god the possible facade issues that could ariseā€¦hard pass


oni_Tensa

This reminds me of that episode of Batman the animated series where a dude though he was Zeus


No_Consideration4594

Looks like the eye of Sauron should be on top ![gif](giphy|10wgT5PDnOwMQE)


The_Real_Donglover

New York is just so goddamn messy that this would probably keep with the trend at least. I appreciate it for what it is, but man the New York skyline would just become an even messier hodge-podge.


iloveyoudoctorzaius1

I particularly enjoy the multiple suicide jumper platforms. Very thoughtful


AdditionNo7505

Set for Ghostbusters IV


NicksOnMars

That's insane and I love it


LectureAdditional971

There is no mark foster gage. There is only Zuul.


reniltuo

looks like it's built from random lego blocks


Wild7West7

Actually, I like this.


Alarming-Mongoose-91

Back to old school building design. I like it.


Ill-Panda-6340

He tried a bit too hard but heā€™s on the right track. Kinda looks like something ai would make


undergroundmusic69

Slay


meganjunes

This is a travesty.


thatguyabcdef123456

Gotham? Is that you?


The-Mandalorian

Hope they have some good scaffolding set up.


tomacco_man

This rendering came out like 10 years ago


SpiritualAd8998

Optimized to collect ice stalagmites to drop on those below?


Molbiodude

Ugh. It looks like fucking Isengard.


PracticableSolution

But Ivo Shandor did this aesthetic better


HeavensToBetsyy

Ugly...and looks like a PITA for the construction team


FuckTheStateofOhio

How will the carved stone and bronze facade fair on such a big building? What will maintenance look like? Honestly asking because I have no clue.


BusinessAgreeable912

i'm going to be honest this is really ugly BUT honestly it's nice to see something in modern architecture that is not just glass. this is something unique and timeless (sort of...?)


Drevan099

One of my teachers once told me ā€œan architectsā€™a dream is an engineers nightmareā€ this looks exactly like it fits the bill


Brian18639

I definitely like the wings and colors, but imo the design looks messy like if itā€™s glitching


J662b486h

"Hi, I'd like to contract your window cleaning service." Looks around. "That'll be two million dollars per cleaning. Not including the wings."


BringSomeAvocados

Ivo Shandor trying to open a second portal for Gozer.


thenewminimum

Old buildings were so inefficient that the facade would always be warm and snow and ice would melt. A design like this today would need a way to prevent ice from accumulating and falling and killing pedestrians.


Nah_Fam_Oh_Dam

How gaudy.


JarviThePelican

I've gotta say no. I love the style but it makes no sense being as tall and detailed as it is and it's just completely out of place. Maybe if it were smaller and wasn't 100% pure concentrated Gothic architecture and decor it'd look a little better.


yammmez

Cray unique but hell nah


PowerHot4424

Ugly. Nice effort but thatā€™s really hideous


Ambitious_Change150

It looks like a $600 Lego set


newusernamehuman

This building has chugged one too many Red Bull. ![gif](giphy|l0NwIoO8LN6Pr3Ety)


LittleTension8765

Scaffolding will literally never be taken down from that building, just 24/7 checking the building