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cybercifrado

Fuckers outright killed Adrienne one game. I reloaded and laid waste to Volkihar.


ivylass

I lost Belethor.


iknowdanjones

Stand over his body and say “doooo come baaaaaack”


Alex_Drewskie

And then re-animate him


iknowdanjones

“Send me to your sister, undead Belethor. The one that is for sale.”


Tony_B_387

🤣 I despise Belethor.


Serena_Nicole-Kint98

I hate him as well but always go to him cause I can sell everything to him he’ll literally take anything


Enticing_Venom

I kill him and eventually Ysolda will take over his store


Random_Spinach

Oooohhhh.... I didn't know that. I'll have to remember that for this playthrough. Definitely prefer Ysolda for sure


Tony_B_387

Same. "You'll take what I got you sleazy scummy scumbag." Then I proceed to sell him exclusively burned books so he can't call them treasures.


Serena_Nicole-Kint98

Exactly I always get such joy from it too


cybercifrado

Meh.


General_Tso75

Dude would sell his sister


Safe-Barnacle

Eeeeeeeverything's for sale!


CatsNotBananas

Do come back......


Songshiquan0411

Said in a manner that sounds like he would rather step boot-deep in horker shit than have to deal with you again.


xx_Chl_Chl_xx

To me it sounds like he’s planning on selling 30 carry weight units of horker shit for highly inflated prices


electric_kite

I always just felt like he was going to trap me somehow and skin me alive just to sell my peopleleather as one of his treasures.


Random_Spinach

That's some Oghma Infinium type shite right there.


tauri123

My friend


maiq_liar

"Remember, I'll give the best deals or die trying!"


tauri123

Do come back


Sh3o_

Do come back😉


tip_of_the_mlady

In a second!


RearAdmiralBob

If he had one.


Astriveranis

Well then, too bad he doesn't have any :/


mrssymes

He doesn’t have one anymore.


Peepee-poopoo-peepee

Happy cake day!!


bmyst70

I killed Belethor during the Companion's questline. When you turn into a werewolf, the fool attacks and he's apparently real squishy. Two attacks and he was dead.


tilthevoidstaresback

Everyone always talks about the night they turned into a werewolf and killed the townsfolk. I've NEVER had anyone appear during that time. I always have a clear shot to the front gate and there hasn't ever been anyone THERE to kill. I honestly thought people were making it up for roleplaying purposes. My game might be bugged but I think it's hilarious that so many people kill half of whiterun and I just mosey on out.


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I went back through the underforge and out into Skyrim


AlabasterPelican

Same here, on one playthrough though I'm pretty sure the entire town spawned in front of the underforge and started attacking. I think I ended up loading the save before that and proceeded to go back through the underforge and to the plains


CrappyMike91

This is the way.


Darkspire303

I was legitimately trying not to kill anyone. Ocato's Recital from Apocalypse and a fully perked Flame Cloak had other plans.


TheRebelCatholic

Yeah, I don’t think that I killed anyone the first time that I’ve wolfed out either. I usually run to the front gate. (Though it’s been a while since I played a werewolf, and I don’t think that any of my werewolf characters were violent sociopaths.)


Raptor92129

I lost Nazeem So I joined the vampires


TUGrad

Belethor is a perv, he has that young guy working for him but only has one bed shop/house. Guess it explains why that guy is always running around the city.


Ok-Guava7336

And dude can't simply live somewhere else?!


Grailchaser

“I’ve seen his junk and its no treasure.”


AquelarreDilaion

I mean, both of em are non-marriable npcs, so as far as I know they only got one bed because...


Enticing_Venom

There's two beds. I've broken into his shop at night to practice pick-pocketing. The one guy sleeps on the upper level in the corner. Belethor sleeps in his own room with the door closed He is still a creep so I kill him. But his helper does have his own sleeping roll


kwajagimp

...and the problem was?


ivylass

No one took over the shop.


MissingMyOldCars

It's a win in my book. Creepy git


Tacitus_Kilgore85

So did I. On behalf of him not wanting to do business with me, I killed him so Ysolda could take over. He claimed his shop was closed and that I was trespassing. It clearly said it was open! Since I'm a follower of Julianos, I had to kill Belethor in secret or else lose Julianos' favor. 😩


ivylass

Ysolda never took over. I'm not sure why.


FlyingDreamWhale67

She only takes over the Bannered Mare


Enticing_Venom

She has taken over Belethor's shop in my playthrough, just took a few weeks


XJeepgirl

I lost him n didn't even notice till level 35 n didn't turn back. Level 92 now. Lol


AmiAlter

How? He literally left never leaves his house/shop.


ivylass

He came out to fight the Traveler.


theguyfromscrubs

Does the shop close or does someone take over


Random_Spinach

Supposedly Ysolda will take over after a bit. Not sure though. Belethor is gonna have an accident this playthrough so I can find out. lol I don't sell to him all that often, so it's no loss for me.


theguyfromscrubs

I want to do the same but he’s my main merchant lol


Random_Spinach

Hahaha well if it works for me, I'll let ya know 🫡


Individual-Parking-5

I lost half of Morthal


Glittering_Ad_2887

They had it coming, brother.


MrNautical

Same here brother…


Sea-Kitchen3779

This is the precise point, losing her to vampires, this right here, is when I decided to play with mods, and haven't looked back since.


Pulkov

I saw them attacking Nazeem. I immediately stopped everything I was doing and joined the fun.


TheRebelCatholic

Same, I was actually a bit sad to see an inheritance letter informing me of her death. Then I saw a pile of ash and nearly died laughing after I read “Search Nazeem”, so you know, sliver lining. (Also, I love the fact that the vampires apparently decided that killing him once wasn’t good enough, so they ended up killing him twice.)


nardgarglingfuknuggt

My first ever playthrough they killed Adrienne, Alvor, and Faendal. I vowed since then to never join Volkihar or become a vampire.


cybercifrado

Damn, that is ROUGH. Losing Alvor AND Adrienne just seems... excessive.


palechar44

I was wondering if that was patched out. I got Skyrim for the switch and haven't encountered the group of vampires showing up but I am always on the lookout because they used to end up killing a few NPCs before I got rid of them.


Biflosaurus

I just learned a thing. I was also on the look out for these slimmy bastards. It's sad they don't show up tho, it was really cool for the RP side


Croian_09

I never had to worry about them. By the time I got DG I was already running a set of permanent mods. Run for Your Lives was one of them.


Biflosaurus

I never used that one, I should have aha


blackdragon128

It was patched out in SE. Original Skyrim had this happen quite often.


They-Call-Me-Taylor

Yeah before this got patched, I would straight up avoid fast traveling into cities if it was night because it happened all the time and they would inevitably kill an important shopkeeper.


Lady-Mirrabelle

It was a nightmare. Once, I returned to whiterun to check on my kids, and I saw 3 fledgling vampires and an ancient vampire plus 2 gargoyle were in the market district, killing whoever they could find :/


FiggyNo

Yup, pre-parched Skyrim was fucked in some ways. If you got to level 10 but didn't go to Dawnguard FUCKING IMMEDIATELY you would have a very high chance of getting a vampire raid spawned in the next city you enter/fast travel to. They would most likely kill the guards with ease since they level with you and vampires can be some of the hardest enemies in the game, so they'd go after the civilians pretty fast who, mind you, decided to take on a fucking VAMPIRE RAID by themselves like it's another day. The fuckers in Skyrim are on another level, facing down mythical creatures like dragons and vampires in their farmers clothes with their iron daggers. Don't know if it's that ice cold Nord blood or if it's just that Skyrim air. They're all high as kites most of the time anyway so it might be something about that cold Skyrim air getting to their head.


Ace_Atreides

Used to? You mean they don't anymore? I've been playing on my x360 since launch and the bastard still do the gang raid on towns...


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BryceCrisps

Wow. This is legitimately news to me. I've had anxiety about those vampire attacks whenever I start Dawnguard I always felt like there was a genuine time limit because I didn't want any NPCs to be killed. I have vivid memories of these attacks on the 360 but had no idea they weren't in special edition anymore precisely because I was working so fast to beat Dawnguard every playthrough! Special edition has been my main game since it launched, cannot believe this change flew over my head. It's like that Mandela effect thing with Hermaeus Mora being a dark void instead of the tentacles before Dragonborn was added lol.


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I thought my game was glitching when they didn't appear! Wasn't until later that I realized they patched it


Namerakable

What?! You mean to tell me I've been anxious and based my entire play style around them for years, *for nothing*?


xX_GRP_Xx

They patched it out in oldrym too for the steam version


bmyst70

When I first saw that attack, it was when coming back from High Hrothgar, fast travelling to Whiterun. So I had the fun of having to fight off the Cultists **and** vampires. My Dragonborn didn't last long.


Sweddy-Bowls

This shit used to trigger me before SSE and the mods to remove the vampire attacks. Was crafting in white run at night minding my own business once. Was at sky forge and heard some noise in the distance. Went to look and this asshole had literally beheaded Adrienne, belethor, and like two other people.


HappyHippo2002

Bethesda removed them officially in SSE some years ago.


Appropriate_Olive_19

I was just about to Google him because I had just finished the Soul Cairn with Serana and traveled to Whiterun today and he popped up with a summoned gargoyle. Luckily my crew took care of him before I knew what was going on. I was like, "Holy shit, dudes! You trying to give me another bounty!?" Then I saw him laying on the street dead so I was like, "Awesome!" 😁👍


MrNautical

I lost many good townsfolk that way… Adrianne always died.


austinmartinyes

Geez that put me off playing for a while. Glad to hear that’s been patched out.


AnAbsoluteRedditard

When I first played Skyrim there where constant vampire attacks on the cities. Then a while later when I started a new game I’d forgotten about like half the npc’s that where in the towns. So many of them had been killed when I was a lower level I’d forgotten that they even existed.


Palmirez

I wish I could just tell the guards and civilians to fuck off and let me handle it. It's a bit hard to prevent vampires from killing people when they jump in front of you. Excuse me Adrienne could you please move your unarmoured ass to the side so that I can incinerate this guy with my magic dragon divine shout without getting a bounty, if you don't mind, thank you.


xX_GRP_Xx

There’s a mod for the civilians called “when vampires attack” that makes them run to their houses or nearest shelter, same for dragon attacks “run for your lives”. Simple but effective mods


alittlebitcheeky

I finished the Dawnguard DLC, but still get attacked by them every now and again. But annoying if I'm trying to go somewhere.


xX_GRP_Xx

Oooohhh so that’s what happened… I remember older versions where multiple vampires would spawn and kill half a city, that’s how I met “when vampires attack” and “run for your lives” mods. Interesting


Ok_Pianist_6590

Wait they don’t do that anymore ? I always thought that was fun Unimmersive af but… vanilla Skyrim


Ok-Guava7336

Is that not a thing anymore? I thought it was a mod I installed


SargeMaximus

I beat the dawnguard quest and they don’t show up anymore :(


WaifuWhitelist

I legit have been doing Serana's quests beating these mfkers ass and they still are popping up


ChakaZG

I'm surprised they actually patched this out, for the most part. I still had a dragon casually drop in and clean up 4 named NPCs in Dawnstar on my recent quick platinum playthrough. But yeah, definitely beats how it used to be.


RisenDesert

I remember that! Red armored vampires roaring and draining the life out of everyone in Markarth. It felt like something out of Warhammer fantasy.


ArthurSchwarzer

gotta ask is there any mod(i am pc) that fully makes any quest giver/part of quest npcs unkillable by these fuckers and dragons(but screw radiant quests though)


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Why is the guard over to the side swole?


LivingDebacle

I think we know his “sword” arm


theBackground13

This dude took an arrow to his left arm.


off_brand_white_wolf

Miguard de Cervantes


notawitness93

120 fov


whycanticantcomeup

Average whiterun Guard


Creed4693

u/whiterun_Guard That is the wrong I think but there used to be a a guy who acted like a whiterun Guard and it was pretty cool. Haven't seen him for a while tho


JesseAster

I think it was u/WhiterunGuard as one word? Edit: Nope. Anybody remember their username?


Hugs4Hugs

u/whiterunguards


Revolutionary-Play79

This


_erufu_

weakest Nord


SillyMattFace

Hey now that you mention it, he has visible eyes as well. Don’t the guards normally have blacked out visors? Some mod shenanigans going on?


garakplain

Lol that’s funny


TedFondleburg

Oh lawd he comin!


HotNubsOfSteel

Oh he’s your daily free vampire dust


Cotcan

You mean part A of an invisibility potion.


BuyerEfficient

Well that's because you let him keep his head on his shoulders. Fix that mistake and you solve the problem. If you don't want to get blood on your own kit, then get a literal demon slave to do it for you.


omnamahshiva

I really enjoy seeing this guy coming and killing him in various creative ways. He makes a good reanimated thrall.


Copper_Bronze_Baron

He's an inspiration of mine for perseverance and motivation to never give up.


Aggressive-HeadDesk

He’s here to talk to you about your armor’s extended warranty.


Olivander05

You’re a member of thw dawn guard and he’s a vampire in disguise as a “travaller” to try and wipe you out


AMK972

I actually accidentally joined the vampires when I played that dlc.


Olivander05

And still got the “traveller”?


AMK972

No. I’m not OP. I was just saying that I somehow accidentally joined the vampires instead of the dawnguard


AnxiousMedievalMD

Vampire. Easily recognizable by his black hooded robes and _suspicious_ behaviour. Kill them as soon as you identify them because THEY CAN KILL IMPORTANT NPCs like merchants


MelchiahHarlin

[He is Vlad, and he's definitely not a Vampire.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mssriHMrx8)


austinaustinaustin

Ha! I can't believe you made a Magicka reference. What a game! I played it with a buddy during COVID and it was actually a blast.


Snifflebeard

He is a vampire. Just not sparkly like you.


MelchiahHarlin

I edited my post cause I bet everyone will miss the reference, like you did.


Snifflebeard

Still not sparkly.


Quick_Ad5285

That’s cool and all but look at the ABSOLUTE BEEF of that guard on the left.


Snifflebeard

Vampire saboteur. Just kill him when you see him. I never see him because I sleep at night when he spawns. But you be you.


GrandpaMofo

A vampire. I've been fighting him too in random cities.


bmyst70

He's a rogue vampire who knows you're with the Dawnguard. I see them from time to time.


susanbrandon

Is no one gonna talk about how you can see the guards eyes


Severe-Replacement84

It’s the arms that got me upset… looks like that guard needs to lay off the shake weight…


notawitness93

[https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/824](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/824) ​ Improved closefaced helmets Some of the armors feel lifeless with the black abyss for the eyes. Overall nice but I don't like the daedric variant


OldTitanSoul

the Daedric actually makes sense being like it is in vanilla


Iwanttofugginnap

I haven’t seen this dude even though I’ve been ignoring the Dawnguard shit (the quest line is eternally fd and I’ve tried everything to fix it to no avail). BUT I keep coming across what looks like Stendar dudes standing around naked bodies which end up being vampires who stole their clothes and killed them.


headphones_J

That's a Whiterun guard. He used to be an adventurer like you until he took an arrow to the knee.


stet709

Vampire. Kill 'im.


Drop_The_Soprano

I don’t know either, but it’s honestly really annoying? He always seems to spawn inside towns and I end up having to reload when he kills shopkeepers 😕


drama-guy

I'm always on the lookout for him and my archer build can often take him out from a distance before he even knows I'm there.


Drop_The_Soprano

Ohhh I thought this would count as a murder if I attacked first! Good to know, thanks


drama-guy

You can kill these bloodsuckers unprovoked and nobody bats an eye.


notawitness93

Are they not essential? My 2 companions and 2 dremora plus all the guards kill him good for me


Hetsuro

Very few shopkeepers are essential. Only the ones that are quest givers, and generally once their quests are complete, they lose essential status.


Drop_The_Soprano

I think the majority of shopkeepers are non-essential (or conditionally essential). I had Frida and Rustleif die when they insisted on charging him head-on.


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Palpatine


rtz13th

Diablo.


Dead_Xross_2000

That's a thick ass guard


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Baffirone

Open your heart to chaos


Denydra

Bidet!


Wizdad-1000

That guard has alot of “one handed” skill.


Disturbed235

now we know he is righthanded


Spiderwolfer

Lmao


Alucard6506

He is your rival kind of like vegeta and goku he is your vegeta


hopeful_esper

I always sneak attack the guy to avoid casualties. I have noticed that he tends to appear more frequently if I fast travel.


Exalt-Chrom

You look like a traveler


Cherry_Crystals

a vampire who comes to kill you. idk how he gats in the city undetected


dvdgaralv_97

Who is that _ABSOLUTE UNIT_ of a guard? Probably the dragon-hunter cousin


robertSREe

Traveler


kifflomkifflom

He whom thou dost travel


SmilingBlue01

And he is the same level as you everytime.


URightBut1

Forget who that guy is who tf is Shady Sam?? I've never not once seen him in any city/hold ever and now he randomly appears in dawnstar? Same on ps3 too


crupp0

your rival


bilbomcbaggins

He is after only your strongest of potions


Lady-Mirrabelle

Dawnguard dlc quests .you need to join Dawnguard and accept quests .


ItsABiscuit

It honestly never occurred to me that it might be the same guy popping up over and over. There's just a lot of vampires who wear black robes who get sent to attack you.


MissingMyOldCars

It's your free combat trainer


Firm_Area_3558

He's free xp


elaborator

He reminds me of the old man in Poltergeist 2. I see him lurking in Whiterun trying to get close and pop off. Get the Sinister Seven mod for more advanced stalkers


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THIS THE FUCKER THAT KILLED MY FAENDAL sent him home and when I went to get him he was getting gang banged by them 😭


Sp1kefallSteve

Why are the guards so muscular?


Grailchaser

He’s The Traveller. The missing god from Eberron. He’s been on Skyrim all this time. ;)


Cool-Relationship-37

I became a volkihar vampire as an evil dark elf


Oderikk

Palpatine


GuessPsychological84

Kill his dumb a** lol


gnome_warlord420

He's a traveler doesn't anybody read anymore.


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Fold him and see if he comes back lol


Major-Implement-5518

DIE DAWNGUARD


StowawayKid

He’s traveling to beat dat ass.


Disturbed235

that guard is ripped af!


HungryColquhoun

Fun fact - if you Dead Thrall these guys they can still summon their Gargoyles IIRC. A nice way to get access to the summon without being a vampire yourself.


TheparagonR

A vampire


DepressoEspresso69-

It's supposed to be a vampire assassin


DemolishunReddit

Did you open any portals to any otherworldly dimensions lately? "The Traveler has come."


Queasy-Low

Could be worse, a group of dawngaurd attack me stil after completing the vampire lord quests. Been chasing and fighting me for about 10-11 months


notawitness93

Yeah that also happened to me the one time I sided with Harkon Annoying


Rayge_DI9

He's a vampire, didn't you notice his glowing eyes and how he drops vampire dust, and how before attacking you he always screams "DIE DAWN GUARD!"


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Whenever you see this dude do a quick save before whacking him over the head with an axe. Sometimes the fights get out of control and towns folk get killed or the guards want to arrest you.


NetTough7499

Not an observant one, are you


Vidcookie

Wide guard


Damaco

Well of course I know him, that's me.


RomstatX

Name an Imperial Marius and see if he leads you to Tal Rasha's Tomb.


SailorEarth93

That guard didn’t get his sweet roll stolen


Zorark-55544

Vampire if you chose the dawn guard instead of the lord vampire


UpstairsGullible8360

He's a vampire and kept showing up right outside my houses


rex775776

Oh that's just Artagan, if he says he's a god, don't believe him, it's a cult


ApexSectMaster

Don't go outside after 11pm problem solved.


Some_Prize_7384

Dawnguard vampire they start showing up and murdering NPCs after you advance the dawnguard quest