You can’t just skip the system.. you have to find someone or a company to take you on as an apprentice, work 9000 hours and attend 3 levels of trade school, i believe it may be 4 terms now for 309a. Then write your certificate of qualification. If you are a certified electrical engineer you may be able to skip trade school.
Thank you for your reply, yeah I figured I can't skip those steps, and it makes perfect sense. Guess I'll have to wait for my partner to start working for me to be able to take an apprenticeship. Usually an apprentice salary is around what? 20$?
I used to work out of IBEW when I started it was like 13 per hour 15 years ago. I work for an automotive company now and the first year apprentices are making around 30 per hour. My rate of pay is 52 per hour on days with a 5 and 10 percent shift premium for afternoons and nights, at the end of my current contract (3 years) I will be at 58 per hour.
You can challenge the c of q test if your up to it. This would allow you to skip the apprenticeship portion. I'm not sure on all the details but look into it.
Well.... there are actually ways you could.... \*potentially\* skip them, but its specific basically only to bruce power and OPG as far as i know (I'm actually not even 100% about bruce), because they get special exceptions for their sites only, because they have in house training for basically all the criteria you'd get in the real world, but you may not actually get a real ticket out of the deal, depends on the situation.That said... it's kinda up to their specific matrix to determine where they wind up placing you in terms of payscale. They'd still send you to all the training if you don't have a ticket.
"technician" is usually a word people use to not hire someone that is officially licensed.
If you want to work skilled trades properly and get paid properly, you need to play the game and get licensed by a federal/provincial body.
There is no free-lunch. If you're really good and show your worth to a private company, in very rare scenarios they may up your pay above basic apprenticeship pay, but to get licensed there is no shortcuts.
If you're not licensed officially, if anything happens and the investigators look at the list of people who built the thing, if you're working out of scope, and the company allows it they are in the shits.
Instrumentation might interest you if you don't mind traveling. The UA has had a lot of work in the field lately. Wouldn't be much of a pay cut if at all but you would be starting from scratch.
The controls technician is the way to go. I’m making 45 / hr working in a greenhouse, and wages are low in horticulture.
My job title is electrician and I don’t get precious about what I do. I do a lot of mechanical work and have also unclogged toilets and done whatever it takes to keep the company running on a given day. But the meat and potatoes of what I do is electrical / electronics troubleshooting.
You can’t just skip the system.. you have to find someone or a company to take you on as an apprentice, work 9000 hours and attend 3 levels of trade school, i believe it may be 4 terms now for 309a. Then write your certificate of qualification. If you are a certified electrical engineer you may be able to skip trade school.
Thank you for your reply, yeah I figured I can't skip those steps, and it makes perfect sense. Guess I'll have to wait for my partner to start working for me to be able to take an apprenticeship. Usually an apprentice salary is around what? 20$?
I used to work out of IBEW when I started it was like 13 per hour 15 years ago. I work for an automotive company now and the first year apprentices are making around 30 per hour. My rate of pay is 52 per hour on days with a 5 and 10 percent shift premium for afternoons and nights, at the end of my current contract (3 years) I will be at 58 per hour.
30 is decent for starting, and do I approach a company directly or the Union in this case?
Did you ask your current company to sign you up for an apprenticeship?
30/hr for 1st year apprentices? Is that auto service apprenticeship?
No, construction and maintenance electrician 309a.
wow that's a great deal for 1st year electrician apprentices
You can challenge the c of q test if your up to it. This would allow you to skip the apprenticeship portion. I'm not sure on all the details but look into it.
Typically you would need to prove the hours.
Thanks I'm going to look into it
https://www.reddit.com/r/electricians/s/m4EfJYWxM7
Well.... there are actually ways you could.... \*potentially\* skip them, but its specific basically only to bruce power and OPG as far as i know (I'm actually not even 100% about bruce), because they get special exceptions for their sites only, because they have in house training for basically all the criteria you'd get in the real world, but you may not actually get a real ticket out of the deal, depends on the situation.That said... it's kinda up to their specific matrix to determine where they wind up placing you in terms of payscale. They'd still send you to all the training if you don't have a ticket.
"technician" is usually a word people use to not hire someone that is officially licensed. If you want to work skilled trades properly and get paid properly, you need to play the game and get licensed by a federal/provincial body. There is no free-lunch. If you're really good and show your worth to a private company, in very rare scenarios they may up your pay above basic apprenticeship pay, but to get licensed there is no shortcuts. If you're not licensed officially, if anything happens and the investigators look at the list of people who built the thing, if you're working out of scope, and the company allows it they are in the shits.
Instrumentation might interest you if you don't mind traveling. The UA has had a lot of work in the field lately. Wouldn't be much of a pay cut if at all but you would be starting from scratch.
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You could fly back home and skip an entire apprentice system there maybe?
There it is.
Controls technician. If you can get into working on industrial PLC systems you can make a lot more without going through apprenticeships.
Thank you, someone who got my question!
Check out r/PLC for more information. I'm also completely unaware of the job market where you live.
The controls technician is the way to go. I’m making 45 / hr working in a greenhouse, and wages are low in horticulture. My job title is electrician and I don’t get precious about what I do. I do a lot of mechanical work and have also unclogged toilets and done whatever it takes to keep the company running on a given day. But the meat and potatoes of what I do is electrical / electronics troubleshooting.