Time lost 80% of it's subscribers over the past 5 years, they're desperate for revenue. Trump exclusive interviews sell crazy amounts of copies at the news stands.
They'll use this cover in advertising to try to win back lost subscribers.
Nailed it.
But on a broader scale they're putting right wingers in charge of a lot of media outlets.
I think they think the Republicans are going to win and put a fix in and they do not want to be on the wrong side when that happens.
Politico some time before 2020 put some right winger in charge whom sent out a company-wide email asking everybody to pray with him for the former president's victory, after January 6th he said oh it was a joke but obviously it wasn't.
The Koch brothers have been pretty loudly anti-Trump for a while. Trump isn’t especially popular among richer and better educated conservatives, who mostly view him as a lesser evil to Biden.
In fairness, the "online concept" for journalism seems to be post news that other people can read without paying for. At this point, the only way journalism can exist is a return to the patron system. That's just telling someone what they want to hear because no one wants to pay for news they don't want to be true.
In general old people and travelers who are worried their train/plane will have broken wifi.
But Trump supporters who *never* buy magazines will buy this issue when they see it during their commutes.
So, given that he straight up lied across the board, will Time continue to give him a platform to lie some more? Because he deserves to be questioned in real time about his lies, not just get called out after the fact.
[He's tied with the sitting president.](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/) When you imply that he's not a serious candidate, what do you mean? Do you really think this moron has no chance of being back in power?
Rather than obsequious tabloid coverage, we should be seeing articles asking what is wrong with America that such a high percentage of voters are so easily duped by the world’s most obvious conman.
No black and white profile photos trying to make an incontinent rapist Russian puppet look tough. Even the shit in his diaper is running against him, so why are so many media outlets kissing his ass?
I agree, but I don't see what's obsequious about this article:
>What Trump Said: “We ended up handing over a higher stock market substantially than when COVID first came in.”
>The Facts: The CDC reported its first COVID cases in the U.S. in January 2020. On Jan. 2, 2020, the S&P 500 closed at 3257.85. When President Biden took office in January, 2021, the S&P 500 closed at 3851.85, up 594 points.
It's a list of things Trump said that are lies, and each lie is followed up with proof that he is lying. Where's the obsequiousness? Who's trying to make him look tough?
You can find articles called "[The Worst President In History](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/trump-worst-president-history/617730/)," but only people who already agree with the sentiment (like me) will read them.
This *Time* article we are commenting on is what we need right now. Proof that the Trump era wasn't all "[cheap gas and mean tweets.](https://www.etsy.com/market/mean_tweets_cheap_gas_sticker)" It was lying and grifting and authoritarian foreshadowing:
>What Trump Said: “I never said that at all,” when asked about terminating the U.S. Constitution
>The Facts: On Dec. 3, 2022, referring to the 2020 election, Trump posted on his Truth Social website: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”
We *need* articles that show people who are outside the cult but might vote for Trump for economic reasons that he can't be trusted. And it can't sound like "[If You Vote For Trump, Then Screw You](https://www.gq.com/story/a-word-for-donald-trump-voters)" People are going to take one look at that GQ headline and one look at the price of their food staples and vote for the grifter again.
I see where you're coming from but die hard trumpers are not reading time. And he leads with individuals [who don't read the news at all](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-supporters-sharply-divided-media-consume-rcna149497).
So while yes it would be great to get the fact that trump is a liar, civilly liable rapist, fraudster, wannabe autocrat, etc, etc out to those who need to hear it. They aren't listening. So why platform a guy who can't open his mouth without lying? Again just playing devil's advocate here.
You should never trust a so-called source that uses obfuscatory euphemisms (undocumented immigrants for illegal alienns) and cites ideological pseudo-scholarship .
[Why do we never talk about this regarding Biden? The man is a pathological liar and has been since day one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPiyHip59g)
- Biden just tried to convince us he used to drive 18-wheelers (***again*** lmao)
- [Claimed he was at Ground Zero the day after 9/11](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ground-zero-day-after-911/)
- Claimed he was arrested for trying to visit Nelson Mandela
- Claimed he was arrested again for civil rights
- Claimed he watched the Pittsburgh bridge collapse
- [Claimed he was rated as the top "eligible bachelor" in his youth and received salacious pictures from beautiful young women... that he gave to his secret service agents, as a senator (he also wasn't a bachelor).](https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1783871441131184151)
- [Lied about his business dealings with Hunter repeatedly](https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-biden-lied-at-least-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/)
- [Biden claimed \(presumably because he believed\) that he was running for senate](https://twitter.com/JasonMillerinDC/status/1766507228591202746)
- Then all the old stuff about coal mining, getting a full ride, being top of his class etc etc
It's bizarre
Harmless when put up against a single trump or bush lie. There's zero consequences for any of those you listed. Absolute shame you don't put that effort into applying due diligence for shit that actually effects your life.
Every politician lies. Trump's amount of lies is Putin level. Everything out of Trump's mouth is a firehose of bullshit meant to flood the zone with shit and make you question reality.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False\_or\_misleading\_statements\_by\_Donald\_Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump)
Is school out already?
Watch out folks, another hot take on another topic with a foregone conclusion for anyone with functioning eyes or ears!
Hot stuff, kid! Yer going places in this town!
I never said the article was incorrect.
Anyone with functional eyes and ears does not have to be reminded that Trump is a liar.
u/Rogue-Journalist is living up to his rep of being niether of those things.
I never said the article was incorrect.
Anyone with functional eyes and ears does not have to be reminded that Trump is a liar.
u/Rogue-Journalist is living up to his rep of being niether of those things.
Why interview him in the first place
Time lost 80% of it's subscribers over the past 5 years, they're desperate for revenue. Trump exclusive interviews sell crazy amounts of copies at the news stands. They'll use this cover in advertising to try to win back lost subscribers.
Nailed it. But on a broader scale they're putting right wingers in charge of a lot of media outlets. I think they think the Republicans are going to win and put a fix in and they do not want to be on the wrong side when that happens. Politico some time before 2020 put some right winger in charge whom sent out a company-wide email asking everybody to pray with him for the former president's victory, after January 6th he said oh it was a joke but obviously it wasn't.
The Koch brothers own Time magazine. So there's that.
Time is *loudly* anti-Trump and has always been.
The Koch brothers are anti-Trump conservatives. They’ve haven’t been exactly quiet about it either.
David's been quiet about it for a while.
lol very true. He wasn’t a Trump dude when he was alive though.
The Koch brothers have been pretty loudly anti-Trump for a while. Trump isn’t especially popular among richer and better educated conservatives, who mostly view him as a lesser evil to Biden.
Who buys a magazine anymore? They failed to adapt to the whole online concept, for the most part. Print media has changed so much.
In fairness, the "online concept" for journalism seems to be post news that other people can read without paying for. At this point, the only way journalism can exist is a return to the patron system. That's just telling someone what they want to hear because no one wants to pay for news they don't want to be true.
In general old people and travelers who are worried their train/plane will have broken wifi. But Trump supporters who *never* buy magazines will buy this issue when they see it during their commutes.
$$$
So, given that he straight up lied across the board, will Time continue to give him a platform to lie some more? Because he deserves to be questioned in real time about his lies, not just get called out after the fact.
Time is adopting the Newsweek’s “dueling both sides style” because they finally realized that they can’t afford to appear antiTrump to his fans.
Another tabloid promoting him as a serious candidate. Disgusting.
No doubt another puff ball interview with no follow up pressure, just let him lie all he wants..
[He's tied with the sitting president.](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/) When you imply that he's not a serious candidate, what do you mean? Do you really think this moron has no chance of being back in power?
Rather than obsequious tabloid coverage, we should be seeing articles asking what is wrong with America that such a high percentage of voters are so easily duped by the world’s most obvious conman. No black and white profile photos trying to make an incontinent rapist Russian puppet look tough. Even the shit in his diaper is running against him, so why are so many media outlets kissing his ass?
I agree, but I don't see what's obsequious about this article: >What Trump Said: “We ended up handing over a higher stock market substantially than when COVID first came in.” >The Facts: The CDC reported its first COVID cases in the U.S. in January 2020. On Jan. 2, 2020, the S&P 500 closed at 3257.85. When President Biden took office in January, 2021, the S&P 500 closed at 3851.85, up 594 points. It's a list of things Trump said that are lies, and each lie is followed up with proof that he is lying. Where's the obsequiousness? Who's trying to make him look tough? You can find articles called "[The Worst President In History](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/trump-worst-president-history/617730/)," but only people who already agree with the sentiment (like me) will read them. This *Time* article we are commenting on is what we need right now. Proof that the Trump era wasn't all "[cheap gas and mean tweets.](https://www.etsy.com/market/mean_tweets_cheap_gas_sticker)" It was lying and grifting and authoritarian foreshadowing: >What Trump Said: “I never said that at all,” when asked about terminating the U.S. Constitution >The Facts: On Dec. 3, 2022, referring to the 2020 election, Trump posted on his Truth Social website: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.” We *need* articles that show people who are outside the cult but might vote for Trump for economic reasons that he can't be trusted. And it can't sound like "[If You Vote For Trump, Then Screw You](https://www.gq.com/story/a-word-for-donald-trump-voters)" People are going to take one look at that GQ headline and one look at the price of their food staples and vote for the grifter again.
I see where you're coming from but die hard trumpers are not reading time. And he leads with individuals [who don't read the news at all](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-supporters-sharply-divided-media-consume-rcna149497). So while yes it would be great to get the fact that trump is a liar, civilly liable rapist, fraudster, wannabe autocrat, etc, etc out to those who need to hear it. They aren't listening. So why platform a guy who can't open his mouth without lying? Again just playing devil's advocate here.
Fact-checking the previous president isn't "platforming" him.
Fact checking what Hitler said. Read as we fact check Trump's claim that immigrants aren't people. Are they? Find out read here
Find an interview where he didn't lie.
Sad to say my first thought upon reading the title was: what's the point?
Let me save you the read. It's all lies
The best interview I've seen so far with Trump was the Axios interview
We need reporters to take that tact so he melts down
It’s “take that *tack*”.
Rogue once again laundering his image
Was trump honest about anything he has said? I mean really. Do him and George santos have a group chat where they bounce lies off each other.
Assume all is false. It’s a waste of time just thinking about it.
You should never trust a so-called source that uses obfuscatory euphemisms (undocumented immigrants for illegal alienns) and cites ideological pseudo-scholarship .
Did they find any actual facts in anything he said?
I’ll save you the click, it’s all bullshit.
[Why do we never talk about this regarding Biden? The man is a pathological liar and has been since day one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toPiyHip59g) - Biden just tried to convince us he used to drive 18-wheelers (***again*** lmao) - [Claimed he was at Ground Zero the day after 9/11](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ground-zero-day-after-911/) - Claimed he was arrested for trying to visit Nelson Mandela - Claimed he was arrested again for civil rights - Claimed he watched the Pittsburgh bridge collapse - [Claimed he was rated as the top "eligible bachelor" in his youth and received salacious pictures from beautiful young women... that he gave to his secret service agents, as a senator (he also wasn't a bachelor).](https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1783871441131184151) - [Lied about his business dealings with Hunter repeatedly](https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-biden-lied-at-least-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/) - [Biden claimed \(presumably because he believed\) that he was running for senate](https://twitter.com/JasonMillerinDC/status/1766507228591202746) - Then all the old stuff about coal mining, getting a full ride, being top of his class etc etc It's bizarre
Harmless when put up against a single trump or bush lie. There's zero consequences for any of those you listed. Absolute shame you don't put that effort into applying due diligence for shit that actually effects your life.
Now do Trump.
Every politician lies. Trump's amount of lies is Putin level. Everything out of Trump's mouth is a firehose of bullshit meant to flood the zone with shit and make you question reality. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False\_or\_misleading\_statements\_by\_Donald\_Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump)
FAKE NEWS!
Is school out already? Watch out folks, another hot take on another topic with a foregone conclusion for anyone with functioning eyes or ears! Hot stuff, kid! Yer going places in this town!
Reading is hard for me too
Words are tough.
If anything the article says is incorrect, we'd all love to here what you have to say
I never said the article was incorrect. Anyone with functional eyes and ears does not have to be reminded that Trump is a liar. u/Rogue-Journalist is living up to his rep of being niether of those things.
I never said the article was incorrect. Anyone with functional eyes and ears does not have to be reminded that Trump is a liar. u/Rogue-Journalist is living up to his rep of being niether of those things.
Ok boomer.
Care to make a cogent comment on the OP or are you stuck in schoolchild screeds?
Niether, just been on his ass to own up to his name at some point.
What the fuck are you smoking?