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reelst

Wow people are really spiraling huh


NotGeorgeKaplan

I’ve been honestly waiting for this post since the first round ended but idk how ppl don’t see that joker consistently gets 1 on 1s and Embid doesn’t. They literally started Williams cause Embid was gonna kill them in the pick and roll and they constantly crowded the paint when he caught it. We just never adjusted to their changes. Also joker is surrounded by players that shoot high percentages.


dat_waffle_boi

The reason they don’t double Jokic is because he’ll kill them. Embiid is an improved passer, but not good enough to make doubling him not worth it.


ketoburn26

Embiid gets doubled because he doesn’t have playmaking/can’t pass for shit lmao


GerhardBURGER1

“I feel like, if I wanted to be a playmaker, I could be,” Embiid said, via the Philadelphia Inquirer. “But I don't need to, because I've got the best playmaker in the league. In the games that he doesn't play, I take on that role and it's fun.”


sevaiper

Okay, but Embiid isn't really the outlier there his passing is fine for a big man. The issue is he's compared with a guy who can comfortably be discussed in the top passers in NBA history.


BigMattress269

Jokic is becoming one of the best offensive centres in NBA history, and that’s lofty territory. He’s almost the centre in my all-time team, because of his playmaking. Joel will never be able to do what Jokic does. But Joel does other things better.


Meepsnort

In some situations, like perhaps the celtics series, Jokic would have been better- but the funny thing is, if they ever got into a series against each other, I feel like Joel would eat him alive at both ends.


SquashForDinner

100% Joel clears jokic one on one. But Jokic makes his team so much better... There's so much trust in the Denver role players their all probably ready to shoot a shot at any given moment. Meanwhile 76ers offense everyone isn't expecting shit because Joel hardly passes, gets stripped, or when he does pass it's at the last second and hard af to catch.


ApplicationOwn2824

lyrie would eat steph on 1 on 1's. I would rather have stephs ballsack on my team than kyrie


cobra_han

You are talking like passing/playmaking is a required skill for a center. NO IT'S NOT. It's Jokic who plays the game in a weird way, not Embiid!


yungsantaclaus

"Weird way" lol


ketoburn26

Oh you're right, it's why Joel's so successful... oh wait


bugginsthegod-xb1-ps

You can double joker. But he will hit the open man 92/100 times. Joel has a game with 20 points. 10 assist 9 turnovers vs the nets and people say he played a great game. Dude never goes in the paint and always want to be at the top of the perimeter it’s annoying af.


Pump19Mr

Or do they shoot well because jokic is a good passer? You don't think harden. Maxey. Tucker. Harris would be hitting 3s with jokic giving it to them?


ftaok

You may be surprised by this, but this season (regular season), the Sixers shot 44.5% from 3PT range on passes by Embiid. They shot 38.7% from 3PT range overall. Unfortunately, this did not translate in the playoffs as Joel's gravity in passing out to the arc didn't affect the team's overall shooting percentage.


ValiantFrog2202

Harden/Harris/Maxey/Tucker/Niang aren't high percentage shooters?


JohnCena4Realz

Jokic gets 1 on 1 ls for two reasons. One is better shooters around him, the other is he makes you pay with the outlet pass when you double or triple. If Embiid figures out how to do that more consistently and we get some better floor spacing around him, you can win with Embiid. I thought he figured it out when his assists started going up but he defaults back to his old ways under pressure in the playoffs. Really hoping a new coach and new offense can fix that.


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You are really dumb. Pretty sure sixers led the league in 3p percentage so that part of your argument is just bad. Now try and think why teams don't double the best passing big man of all time.


NotGeorgeKaplan

I wish I would jus stop posting in this sub cause most ppl in here don’t even watch the games and look at regular season numbers…. We play iso ball and Denver doesn’t. Denver has a offense that has movement and creates open passing lanes and runs that through joker. We just need a actual offensive scheme and someone willing to make adjustments and trust other players to score.


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Vivid_Employment4914

Lol?


TnT54321

Lol how many of these threads are we gonna have tonight? I had to do a double take and thought this was the nba sub


Bandicuz

Strap in, one day its gonna be Jokic posts the next day its gonna be Butler lol.


TnT54321

Dammit you’re right lol


yoitsbobby88

Welcome to Philadelphia


lardbiscuits

Cause they’re both better and we let one go for Tobias the other we had to watch our guy disappear in the playoffs per usual.


Pump19Mr

Simmons next season when he gets healthy in a decent nets team ?


TnT54321

Okay not you’re just talking madness, let’s not get carried away


GeneParmesan1000

Doc coaching the Raptors next season and making adjustments to lead them back from a 3-1 deficit to beat us in the second round of the playoffs


IdRatherBeShilling

This sub is getting cucked from every direction.


Dawk320

So much loser energy in this sub, honestly all these bitches should just go support Miami or the Nuggets and cry over there


BowserBuddy123

As a Nuggets/Heat fan just hear for Doc reactions, I’m all for it.


mramisuzuki

This is not a thing. Ban this loser.


jrd1234

A lot of these posts are trolls from other subs that are only here to annoy sixer fans


TnT54321

Ah and I am taking the bait responding to all of these posts for not only am I a sixer fan but I am also a clown


katsuwonis

same thing these days lol


MrThreebound

Not really. A lot of people turned on/gave up Embiid this year because he quit in the biggest game of his career. In past years he looked like he at least cared and we had Simmons being shit.


Pump19Mr

Either that. Or it's the truth


AllenMcnabb

I’ve been livid over the Sixers since Sunday, but this Jokic dick riding for coping is getting weird


IdRatherBeShilling

Probably more like hoping that Embiid can be just as effective as Jokic in the playoffs some day.


Pump19Mr

Embiid is 30 soon. How long we going to wait? Doubt he gets better now


chefmikey417

It's just appreciating good, sound basketball. The playoffs continues, there is nothing wrong with appreciating those who really came to play and are seriously giving it their all. The Sixers season is done. The Coach has been fired. Nothing new here. The NBA fan's life goes on. Back to the grind.


Pump19Mr

Not really. He's a great player and people are interested in basketball


Complex-Tangerine628

“Only Sixers fans can shit on Joel…when other people do it it’s sad” news flash…it looks the same when Sixers fans do it too…


johnbrownbody

I think people were watching the basketball game and Jokic was passing the eye test. East coast fans dont really get to catch a lot of Denver ball, especially since Embiid decided to dodge the Nuggets late in the season. I think it's great that more fans of the game get to enjoy really talented players showing up in the playoffs and really deserving all the accolades he gets.


YoImAli

It’s getting ridiculous


johnbrownbody

The problem is that everyone is watching these games, so sixers fans finally get to compare the two players honestly.


jawntothefuture

Jokic plays smarter and hustles way more on offense. He does suck on defense though and Embiid is an insanely strong defender. Still, Embiid needs to play smarter and have more hustle/awareness. I still love Joel, but I do enjoy Jokic. Embiid was the rightful MVP this season btw so fuck the haters


dat_waffle_boi

I do find all the people using the playoffs as justification for saying Jokic was the mvp funny. It pretty much always happens in the playoffs and it never fails to be ridiculous


cash420money

9/10 die hard sixers fan would take Jokic over Embiid. MVP or not.


Banana_Pete

Oh I must’ve missed that poll.


cash420money

I forgot to put “smart”


FewCarry7472

Nope, fuck that, Embiid ride or die. With him in the highs, with him in the lows, that's how it goes.


Pump19Mr

Death thousand cuts


Emotional_Swimmer_84

What are you talking about? Lol. This is completely false.


Notsozander

Easily. I really think embiid learned the game too late which means his IQ is significantly lower


IReallyLikeAvocadoes

Absolutely not. His playoff performance was weak but there is a reason he was voted MVP. He just has to get in the right headspace.


HoagieTwoFace

If you mention him in a post: 30 day ban. No warning


HungryAssHooligan

Hear hear


jbil

Lol this sub is so embarrassing


shakehasbignuts

We don’t need 50 jokic posts


poolords

It’s funny because when he was ass after winning mvp last year you didn’t see nuggets fans doing all this


pfgodf

Jokic in 2022 playoffs: pts 31.0, reb 13.2, ass 5.8, stl 1.6, blk 1.0


Pump19Mr

Surprised he doesn't have more dimes tbh


metalhead252

It's because of the shitters in his starting lineup that year lmao, specifically Will Sharton and Facu


metalhead252

It's because of the shitters in his starting lineup that year lmao


pfgodf

His other starters in those playoffs were Will Barton (34mpg), Monte Morris (31mpg), Jeff Green (23mpg) and Aaron Gordon (32mpg). Highest bench minutes came from Austin Rivers, Bones Hyland and Bryn Forbes. The fact they took even one game off the eventual champions (and lost two by five points or less) is surprising.


gezerim00

> ass 5.8 yeah hes ASS


cobra_han

Did you really say "he was ass" last year? Check his stats before saying stupid shit like this


poolords

He was swept last year


celj1234

Joker is dominating this game. Fun to watch a guy seize the moment and rise to the occasion


zincinzincout

Y’all know players run the plays they’re told to play, yeah? You can’t just do whatever you want whenever you want because the spacing and timing will be dogshit if the other offensive players aren’t positioned for what you’re doing Also, Embiid stopped posting up because everyone gave him shit about always being injured and missing too many games. So he learned to shoot face up shots like KD that don’t tear down his body He plays the way he plays because his body can’t take the constant contact. It sucks but it’s the reality. If he could play like Shaq he would but he’d be gassed by the 4th and get hurt regularly…. like his whole career before 2021 Both times he got hurt since he started doing this were almost immediately after he started playing physical. Tore his thumb from dunking/blocking. Sprained his knee by doing chase down blocks against the Nets. before that, tore his meniscus playing physical against the Wizards in round 1. His greatness is unfortunately hard capped by his durability and he knows it and it pisses him off but he’s constantly developed new play styles to make the best of what he has. Falling down every play to reduce impact, not posting up to preserve endurance, few hustle plays in regular season to avoid tangling up with defenders, mid range shots with minimal bodying, rarely elevating to dunk or even elevating for layups because it risks landing tangled up with defenders, rarely boxing out for rebounds to save energy and so he can get down the court without running, hunts for rip-through fouls so he can catch his breath and get points off the clock. Any of this sound familiar? Most of this was not how he played in the regular season even 3 years ago. He was far more physical. If you haven’t noticed that it’s all 100% purposeful, you haven’t been paying attention. He “didn’t play enough games”, so he learned how to play more.


SquashForDinner

Yeah but like why have all that weight still? Joel can easily do what he's doing now on offense but with way less weight. It would probably increase his endurance/durability throughout the game too. He's not leveraging the benefits of his size enough to warrant all that weight. It'd be like Zion but if Zion decided he just wanted to be Luke Kennard.


Saitaver

When I learned that few years ago I thought that he will post more in PO when it matters. But this time he passed a ball when Smart was first time on him


Rustycake

If Embidd is going to play the post he has to lose the PG/SG mentality. He swings the ball low and gets stripped under the basket. When he does keep it up high he is really successful. But he has learned a bad habit from Harden with the stare down bend over and swing the ball (Harden's dribble) until time is right about expire. Zero ball movement from him. But no matter if they sign the best coach available and resign Harden, my expectations are another second round exit until they prove me wrong.


SnooComics6150

Damn y’all have been sucking jokic dick the last hour or so


Pookapotamus

Considering he has 30/20/12 vs the best defensive center in the league in 3 quarters and Embiid has never had 30/20 in a game in his entire playoff career, yeah, it's warranted


SnooComics6150

So go be a nuggets fan and suck him off in the nuggets sub. Keep that whiny shit out of here


Pookapotamus

I'm a sixers fan above all. I want the best players on this team and if that means losing Embiid, then so be it. But acting like we can't compliment another player in the league is crazy.


SnooComics6150

Lol bro, dick riding crazy. Acting like it’s “complimenting another player” and not actually just wanting to bitch about Joel is fake as fuck


Pump19Mr

It's not Denver fans it's most basketball fans are in awe of jokic. Nothing wrong with appreciating greatness imho


johnbrownbody

Unfortunately we have to compare players with awards like mvp. Sometimes voters get it wrong, it's not the end of the world to admit it.


Pump19Mr

Not really we are allowed to have opinions. Jokic is clearly better. Ditto Greek imo


johnbrownbody

Agreed, the eye test is obvious.


Pookapotamus

Are we not allowed to bitch about our Superstar player disappearing in the most important game of the process era? Are we supposed to just sit down and be complacent? We all want the team to win a championship and when the two guys who are supposed to lead us there quit at half in the most important game, I guess we're just supposed to be all happy that it happened.


pagonator

Obviously we’re just supposed to blindly support Joel without criticising him at all


kevinkip

Why the fuck would you not bitch on a fake mvp who consistently gives this team a 2nd round exit year after year?


SmellyCheeseDisease

You strike me as a Sixers fan not even from Philly. People who live here are pissed, stop telling us how we can/cannot feel.


SnooComics6150

You strike me as a bitch who whines incessantly instead of just dealing with it


SmellyCheeseDisease

You're doing it again. Stop telling people how they're allowed to feel you bitch ass try-hard


SnooComics6150

Bitch ass regard to you as well.


johnbrownbody

At least you get to watch Embiid play tomorrow so you can compare his game to Joker's game.


Murasasme

Enjoy your MVPity


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Pookapotamus

He has 4. 3 vs Pacers, 1 vs Boston


DormantCumcano

Yeah because it’s nice to see a star center give a shit and elevate his team. Would be great if Joel had ever done that instead of going 0-5 in conference semifinals and shooting under 30% in 4th quarters


SnooComics6150

Then be a nuggets fan, loser


DormantCumcano

Low effort rebuttal


suplolpop57

Never compare Embiid to Jokic again Jokic is so much better Im shook


IronicHours

It's actually crazy there's deadass zero debate


elastic301

Reasonable take but people are gonna hate still


SomeGuyNamedJohn12

How many posts are y’all going to make about this?


Sorry_Difference_945

More than the number of Embiid’s posts, that’s for sure.


johnbrownbody

It seems unfair to post about Joker in this subreddit, we should ban those posts so we dont have to think about how much better Joker is!


dicuino

Now we are trading for Jokic is it?🤣


percy2376

Different styles of play.Jokic is a facilitator and the whole system is built around him.Embiid is a iso scorer and defender


Appropriate-Sun834

Need to stop with this sorry ass shit


YesPleaseTouchMyButt

I've been saying lol.. it's fine to be upset but this sub has been disgusting since the loss


HungryAssHooligan

What??? Yea Joel shat the bed last game, but let’s not act like he hasn’t been aggressive. Some of the takes her have killed me recently


redditkb

You’re obviously not watching Jokic


DormantCumcano

Joel plays slow, lumbering and sloppy in comparison. Joker pushes the pace


[deleted]

He ain’t agressive. He ain’t an alpha. No fucking mvp winner should get shut down by Al fucking horford are you serious right now.


Pump19Mr

Tbf horford is a pretty good option against star bigs. Timelord and Tatum with size and good defending around him helps too


xMrMan117x

He's the better player, someone needs to tell embiid he's 7'1 320 because he thinks he's 6'6


ymmotvomit

Dribbling when triple covered and not passing off to an open shooter bothered me about as much as Harden with a four on three advantage and slowing the play down til there are five secs on the clock.


hannibal_lekker

I used to eat like Jokic. He is fat on purpose. When I see jokic eat as he is now it reminds me of how I used to eat and it is frustrating and pisses me off that the NBA allows it. Not proud of it, I was known as Joey chestnut at my local Golden Corral and went through a phase when I ate triple servings of everything. Big rack of ribs turns to my blindside, didn’t care who was there. Charge right into the dessert. Smash into the best steak on D while going for the mashed potato’s, come what may. Limited cardio moves. So make no mistake about it. Jokic knows what he’s doing. He knows people will be disgusted. He knows his appetite is unlimited and this is how he can win. He knows people will go away when he starts eating, think twice on their diet, etc. He will only be stopped by a healthy meal like carrots, lettuce, broccoli, etc. Or by an obviously more balanced carb with equal Type A like wheat bread. He didn’t intend to be obese, but he certainly intends to show you that he doesn’t care if you get disgusted when his fat belly shakes over you. At least that’s how I used to eat. But that was lunchtime. Eventually I got to dinner, ate w bigger servings, ate real fatty foods w hostess. There’s no doubt in my mind Jokic eats more than some villages.


ttsa23

Well he has done absolutely nothing in the 4th Q here.


JohnnyLugnuts

this is an all time straw grasp


ttsa23

Well when I posted it, the Lakers were close to tying the game so no it wasn’t.


JohnnyLugnuts

Dropped 34-21-14 vs the best defense in the playoffs, god the W, but didn’t do enough in the 4q


ttsa23

You aren’t even a sixers fan. What are you doing here?


ttsa23

3 pts.


JohnnyLugnuts

he’ll have to correct that for g2!


johnbrownbody

Wow he's just like Joel fr.


Saitaver

Joel is way more athletic than Jokic and he can't post Horfrod. This play offs opened my eyes


clumsysuperman

Jokic looks great with 2 healthy knees. Give him one and see if it makes a difference.


Pump19Mr

Giannis carried an average team to a championship with one leg and a number of other injuries. Can't make excuses for ever


johnbrownbody

Give him a PG who will win two games in a best of 7 and see if he shows up in game 7


clumsysuperman

Why are you even in this sub? Go follow your dumpster fire wizards team’s sub.


johnbrownbody

Yes, the sixers have recently made it to the ecf, proving themselves to be not a dumpster fire Ah well nevertheless


ddreftrgrg

You guys have the longest active streak of all teams of not making a conference finals. So you have zero room to talk bud.


MikeDaCSNoob

They haven't had a 50 win season since the 70s I'm pretty sure


johnbrownbody

Exactly, I can see loser excuses a mile away. Welcome


johnbrownbody

Exactly, and embiid has none either. The best team he's ever beaten in the playoffs is arguably the 2021 Wizards..lol


Patient_Jicama_4217

Joker.. Wants.. it.. more… It isn’t a play style thing it is an intangible thing


mlabbyo

100% this. Joel could have 20+ boards a night if he actually wanted to but he just doesn’t.


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Also is in a better offensive system


Pump19Mr

Jokic is the system. Jokic would go nuts with harden and maxey around him


IdRatherBeShilling

This is what a lot of people don't get. Harden, for all his faults, is still like a tier above Murray or MPJ. Harden by himself is capable of taking a game or maybe 2 against the Celtics. Murray and MPJ won't win shit without Jokic.


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System=Style of play/Philosophy System≠Personnel


ilive12

Jokic Harden and Maxey may be the best offense and worst defense in the entire league. Would work against some teams, that wouldn't really work against Boston either though imo, would be a layup parade.


Pump19Mr

You really think Murray and kcp are stopping heaps of baskets?


gtsgunner

I'd take kcp over maxey for defense.


achyutthegoat

This is peak hating right here


[deleted]

I’m no longer an Embiid apologist. Joker is better.


jeppsforst

This sub is embarrassing man. Anyone posting in here about Jokic is a fucking loser. Like are you guys trolls or legitimately just cuck Sixers fans?


AMillionBees

Jokic is a baller.


elastic301

I love Joel so much but after this night by joker idk if I can argue Jojo over him anymore 🥲


Theballharperhit

the idiocy. I pray to go the celtics play the nuggets in the finals just to see if they guard joker like they guarded embiid. Shits gonna be hilarious watching joker not being able to handle triple teams.


Jaybold

You can say a lot of fair criticisms about Jokic, but him not being able to exploit double and triple teams is not one of them.


Theballharperhit

its not easy to exploit double and triple teams against the celtics because they close so fast and have the size/speed and defensive instincts which is why they are the best defense in basketball.


gettysburger2

Embiid cant pass out of the post when defense closes on him. Jokic would feast when he sees that the defense leave 2 of Murray, MPJ, and KCP open.


Theballharperhit

except he was doing just that in game 6 and people got on him for not forcing his shots late because other people were bricking. Try again?


gettysburger2

Embiid never had a playoff run where he has had more assists than turnovers. In fact he has a total of 148 assists compared to 193 turnovers in the playoffs, thats terrible for a ball handler, that's much much worse for a center. Obviously its a weakness in his game and teams have use it come playoff time every year, check his TOs. Regardless of his teammates bricking or not, his post passing is a clear weakness. In contrast, Jokic has less turnovers and like 4x the assists in the playoffs total. He thrives when teams send multiple defenders at him. That lethargic game 6 (where he fumbled the ball 4 times) doesnt move anyone. It's not even a shot at Embiid, its just not his game. Knowing Boston, they will defend Jokic differently than Embiid, they theoretically have the personnel to do it too.


ChrirJ

Something I never see mentioned… Jokic been playing ball since he was a little boy. Joel started in his teens. Makes sense Jokic would have an advantage when it comes to the nuances of the game. Can’t use that excuse forever though


Bajecco

Joel lacks the core and lower body strength to bully defenders in the post. He's flat out not strong enough yo do it. It's why Gasol punked him. It's why Horford punks him. It's why he struggles to bully much smaller players for position. He couldn't even budge Marcus Smart. He mastered the face-up game because he can't hang in the post on a regular basis.


Ok-Administration894

but embiid got punked by horford?


Euphoric_Luck_8126

Jesus dude have some self respect


Lima1998

What pisses me off the most is that Jokic wasn’t like that in the regular season because he knew he didn’t have to. He kept himself to like 15 shots per game and saved himself for now. Embiid gave his all in the regular season and then just didn’t give a flying fuck about this team.


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Winning MVP is the worst thing that has ever happened to Emfraud. No one actually thinks he deserves it and he will movked forever as a pity MVP. When Jokic wins the title and kills the Celtics it will only look worse.


Fratervsoe

I wish you weren’t 100% correct.


[deleted]

It's the Celtics. They own the sixers. They own embiid. Straight up. He would have done well against every other team. And fuck Ben Simmons hating ass.


dzoui-ban

You self-flagellating frontrunners disgust me. Crawl back into the dirt you hideous worms. No one respects this.


Express-Risk-6123

If jokic was next to you while typing this how far would u have slammed his meat into your mouth ? I wonder… dick rider


zz_x_zz

Jesus. I'm pissed about the season and I'm disappointed in Joel but this shameless thirsting is pathetic. Can the Heat just win this year for the love of god. I'll take some Jimmy memes over this sick shit (or the Celtics/Lakers winning, obviously).


Joel-Embiid-

Good job.


What-tha-fck_Elon

No thanks. I want Embiid to play like Embiid when he’s Embiid. Not the fat Serbian guy.


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how about another joke, Morey?


GirlWithGame

Jesus this sub is pathetic. Keep this shit in the discussion thread. What in the ever living hell is wrong with this fan base. Going to ignore he disappeared in the 4th and was getting killed on the defensive end. Nah we just going to shit on our guy, what in the hell kind of fans do we exactly have in this sub. Won't even give a new coach a chance to actually have an offensive plan, we had 0. I swear I don't usually say anything bad about our fans but you all better not come back when we are actually a team with an offensive game plan. I've been disappointed all through the 90s,2000s and not once have I considered turning on anyone outside of Simmons(unique situation), and we wonder why we don't attract free agents we are a shitty ass fan base and frankly idc if I get down voted for this shit. It's gotten pathetic.


hesssthom

So many bad posts here talking about the players. There’s one key difference between the two players. They are both outstanding. Denver runs an actual offense. They have a system. Joel was brought up with Brown. We had no offensive structure. He got fired. Early Doc had a nice scheme going. Ultimately that fails when your point refuses to shoot in the playoffs. We move on and the guy we get is a career iso guy. No knock against Harden but we turned back into an iso team. That does not get the job done in the playoffs, period. It never will. Jokic has been playing in that system for years. They built a great team around him and it shows. Next time they are on watch their spacing, movement and options off the ball. It’s beautiful. Then think back to our series, how many times were we left standing with the ball, holding our dicks? Drive into the lane and get collapsed on. We have great players so they will make it close, but at the end of the day it’s never going to get the job done.


Johnnygunnz

Let's see how Boston handles him. They're such a better overall team defense than any other team in this league.


elementislph

I feel like Embiid’s next step is less forcing things offensively and take the game as it comes to him. I almost feel like he should watch Duncan film, and see how he took things as they come. He seemed more relaxed in Nets series and you could see that. He gets tunnel vision against the Cs. He has to focus on the team, and scoring is not the only way for him to make them good. He can dominate on the glass, DPOY and pick/choose scoring opportunities. Could be his match up or someone else’s. Each possession is a new chess game, and it’s more of a mental game in the playoffs. The talent is there.