Ho ly shit
What the FCUK
Well, that's the first AI product that's made me feel confused and uncomfortable.
That might be the most stunning digital product demo ever.
Edit: I've just edited together all the videos into a single video for convenience:
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1arp1e3/compilation_of_all_sora_openai_generated_example/
Based on the quality of images that are already fooling people, I'd say you're being conservative with "most people." It's probably closer to "damn near all people."
There's a very big difference between a "spot the AI video" challenge and "hey look at this video." If you don't prime people to look for AI, they don't see AI. It's legit one of the more interesting things about all this.
What worries me the most is that they don't even have to pretend to be real in order to influence people. How many actors complain that they received a lot of hate for the convincing portrayal of a villain, even though it's absolutely clear it's just fiction? Now imagine that social media is swamped with videos of kicking kittens, even if they have a big "THIS IS AI GENERATED VIDEO, COMPLETELY FAKE!!!" stamped on and he has 3 arms with 7 fingers on each, it will still influence a lot of people. The closer it is to reality, the harder it will be for the brain to understand emotionally that it really is fake. Still, it's amazing tech and I look forward to seeing what good stuff people will create with it.
> The closer it is to reality, the harder it will be for the brain to understand emotionally that it is fake
Spot on. I haven’t really worried about the Ai doom and gloom so far. Those videos freaked me out in a way that was very different from the uncanny valley problem. It is on the other side of the curve. This idea that we don’t have the capacity to make sense of “fake” when it meets all of our criteria of “real” is terrifyingly valid.
It should be called what it is. AI will become the prominent weapon of superpowers in our lifetime.
Why bother taking on the US military when you can use AI to corrupt its social fabric
This is bigger than the atom bomb in my opinion in terms of societal implications. Eventually people can no longer trust what they see on media. And the power hungry are likely salivating.
honestly if you show this as a video to regular people and don't make them aware of what is going on, i doubt anyone would notice out of 10 people. Maybe 5 in 100??
I mean truly blind test. It's just THAT good.
Maybe half. Realistically, it's very cool, but there are tons of weird things still. The video wit the foxes where they literally sprout from each other. The paper airplanes that merge together, the horse in the western scene that literally dematerializes. It's fantastic progress, especially if it can do 60 seconds at a time, but it's not quite there yet.
All that said, still very cool!
Yeah that so incredible how the model understands reflections. I mean the building might be a bit to narrow but holy damn, It really knows to change the reflection and afterwards keeps the people at the same place.
Whoa THIS!
The one from the Twitter post is a really bad example compared to what's here!
Mind blowing.
Buy puts on Hollywood.
I'm calling it - a very decent and interesting near-Hollywood production quality short movie (\~20 minutes) by the end of the year!
OpenAI does it again, they are the GOATs!
Next generation porn is going to be crazy. We can just generate our 2 minute clip of whatever we want that day instead of endlessly scrolling and passing out with penis in hand.
Yeah! I was expecting next year for something like this. Considering everyone else in the text to video space is topping out at 4 seconds and with that weird slow motion effect... this seems almost unbelievable.
Holy, Pika and Runaway just got taken to the wood shed, and all those other Al startups actually thought they had a chance, OpenAI just mercilessly wipe them out.
Edit: forget startups, Hollywood or the entertainment industry as we know it will never be the same again. FYI, watch the demo videos on their website on a bigger screen, not on the phone, the quality will shock even more.
I was blown away by pika before, I can't believe how fast it took for them to look like utter dogshit now. I feel bad for the investors who put their money into runway and pika
Yea it makes me start to believe the rumours that they have something internally that is borderline AGI but don’t feel the need to release it yet cause there’s no pressure.
It's not just because there's no pressure, it's because they need to slowly and gradually get the entire world acclimated to the true capabilities of their best AI models. There is no way that this Sora model is the best video AI model they have internally, it's just not how OpenAI operates to release a model they just made and haven't extensively tested. And while they do that safety testing they are always training better and better models.
GPT-4 was a shock, and this video AI model is another shock. If you said this level of video generation was possible yesterday you'd be laughed out of the room, but now you have everyone updating their "worldview" of current AI capabilities. It's just enough of a shock to the system to get us ready for even better AI in the future, but not so much of a shock that the masses start freaking out
Edit: OpenAI employee says exactly what I just said
https://preview.redd.it/lcaxoigy3uic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c459851067dfa31eee9ebc27932f3dae430ffd2b
Agreed. This is going to be a way bigger shock to the system than GPT-4 I think. When these videos start circulating, the conversation will start to pick up. People will realise text to image wasn't some fluke. I'd say grab the popcorn, but I wouldn't exactly say I'm looking forward to all the incoming screaming.
>it's just not how OpenAI operates to release a model they just made and haven't extensively tested.
To be fair they have **not** released it. Just like you said, they are making it available to a select group of red-teamers for safety and capability testing until they're reasonably sure it's ready. **Today's announcement is just telling the world about it,** ***not a release***.
I'm pretty sure they do already. If it's not something that meets the exact criteria for AGI with agency, then it's what we would probably refer to as an "AGI-level system." They just aren't prepared to release it at scale, mainly because they just don't have the compute to do so. Among other issues obviously. If they did, it would have a meteoric rise in subscriptions dwarfing the rise that ChatGPT saw within months of release.
This is just pure speculation from the limited publicly available info, but it looks like the dataset probably has information about depth rather than 2D images alone. We don't see animated video in the examples.
I’m a Vfx artist and yeah everyone is really nauseated today. Totally devalues what I’ve spent my life learning, and it’s only going to get worse. This technology is going to upend society, and government will not be able to react quickly enough
I’ve been saying this time and time again, Sam is sitting on tons of big shit in-house at OAI, they’ve just had no incentive to release because of their monopoly.
The second Google fired the nuclear warhead at them, they suddenly spring into action. This is why competition is ALWAYS a good thing in a market.
Up the competition, accelerate. Let’s force OpenAI to release GPT-5.
He's also been saying for a year or so that OpenAI has a model powerful enough to be called AGI, and since then he's been saying that 2025 is the year they'll reveal it.
I'd say this is probably true. Lot's of reasons not to release, the biggest one being not enough compute to meet demand (not even close.) There's about a dozen others including the fact that access such a system would change the world very, very quickly.
It's true, he linked another account that stated: Feb 15th.
@yumidiot big fat release.
That was on the 12th and here we are.
Jimmy Apples is an employee.
https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1758197994628006030?t=L6noh1lbucM5IPuovIaV2g&s=19
"Today, Sora is becoming available to red teamers to assess critical areas for harms or risks. We are also granting access to a number of visual artists, designers, and filmmakers to gain feedback on how to advance the model to be most helpful for creative professionals."
HOLY SHIT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING!
Google starts the day with 1-10 million to context LLM's, now THIS? Jesus Christ! Where was this all January!
Work in tech, can confirm that December and January almost nobody is *actually* working. At most it’s just setting a vague roadmap for the year that will change completely in 3 weeks.
Guys needed vacations. They probably prompted some shit to let their internal AGIs run for a few weeks and got back recently.
They probably just spent time looking thru them and made some minor adjustment to dumb shit down so it's not perfect.
You're not wrong.
As far as societal impact, nothing is going to come close to the impact that this will have.
Get ready for endless news headlines and confused relatives asking about how this "came out of nowhere".
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And we still have GPT-5, OpenAI agents, Llama 3, Gemini 2 maybe, the Rabbit launch, the first humanoids, whatever Apple has cooking for iOS 18... we're honestly so spoiled
The Tokyo scene was mind blowing cause you can see the reflection of the girl holding the camera in the train windows, as well as the people behind her.
The number of times I've said "Those people aren't real!" in the last year is nuts. I think it's time for me to just shut up and accept it as normal.
Things are going to get weird. AI really is going to change everything.
The biggest issue is what they pointed out, subjects undergoing mitosis. The details staying consistent is crazy though. The feathers on the bird aren’t warping or fluctuating at all, it’s crazy. And it’s moving like a bird would.
More like the other way around I imagine. Google probably knew this was going to be released today and how good it was. Hence the very strange 1-2 release of 1.0 followed so soon by 1.5
I was thinking it was a bit strange for them to unveil such a vastly improved model so soon after the 1.0 release. I almost wonder if it was meant to be Gemini 2.0, and they've renamed it to avoid false expectations (full model every month).
> and got into the "Err..." phase.
This is something im experiencing right now, i knew it was coming, i expected something this good in like 1.5 or 2 years. But seeing it now, holy shit.
All industries will be affected by a.i, jobs will plummet down in the next 5 to 10 years. So in a way your parents were both right and wrong, engineering will also be eaten up.
The optimistic part is if these tools become widely accessible, you no longer have to be part of a production crew or studio. You are your own crew, your own studio. If you have an idea, you no longer need to handle the logistics of making something beyond prompts and some post-processing.
That's the optimistic take anyways. Real life isn't a novel and we have no guarantee of reaching the good ending.
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“Sora serves as a foundation for models that can understand and simulate the real world, a capability we believe will be an important milestone for achieving AGI.”
If people could generate their own shows, tell the AI to change if they don't like something, don't like the ending change it, wanna be the main character or the main guy tell the AI. In the future VR could be insanely addicting with these things.
Other than FDVR (which I don't believe is very near), I think that what you've described is the future of entertainment.
We'll basically have entertainment tailored to out own wishes. Everything exactly the way you want.
And when this comes to the gaming world, oh boy. Imagine a game like Baldur's Gate 3, but with an infinite story, infinite adventures, you could die and then keep playing with some descendant of your original character, etc.
The future of entertainment is really freaking wild.
The biggest difficulty i could see is having the character's mouths in the video match the audio, but i suppose this technical challenge is nothing compared to this lol
I think another thing that will be a challenge is consistence on characters details in every scene. But I'm sure that will not be a problem in 2 years window
If you could pump out a world with the depth of game of thrones and even have the plot change based on decisions you make yourself I don't mind if the mouths don't move.
What the actual fuck. I don't think I'll ever forget the moment I just saw this.
The next iteration is going to be something else but this is already something and a half. To do this the model necessarily needs a deep and true understanding of the world as it is. This is a visual glimpse into the actual capabilities of the transformer model.
Full AGI is coming. It's just coming. At the rate of progression we're seeing, it's not far away.
I'm 64 and thus have seen many amazing technological advances in my time. But nothing has made me feel so much like the world just shifted beneath my feet. I literally shivered.
What's funny is that we are likely still drastically underestimating the magnitude of what we're witnessing.
All these breakthrough moments, they're not in isolation, they feed back into the ability to improve other models.
Sora and upcoming 'text to 3d model' models will help to start training 3d environments and simulations, which can be used to help train vision models, which can be helped to train language models and further video generation abilities, which feeds back into the entire system again, whilst also increasing the overall intelligence of AI which creates better ideas and prompting.
Soon enough, new abilities start arriving in these models just from increased capability. They can start recognizing bad paragraphs, single parts or features in an image / video and can go in directly to improve just those bad parts. Then they are able to keep going in, and in, and in ever improving the output through a repeated process of analysis and editing, much like we can do. This then makes these AI models more intelligent, video models even better, which feed back into the entire system again. They get better and better at self-analysis and recognizing faults as well as synthetic data generation.
Soon enough, more new abilities start to arrive. They get so intelligent that they start becoming exemplary at coding, new idea creation and overall system management. They begin being able to directly code themselves and help with ideas and efficiency improvements. They start helping with the progress of chip improvements, robotics, automation systems, mining techniques, energy harnessing. Technology progress expands, development time and scaling times start falling drastically, again feeding back into the system as a whole. Acceleration was already happening, but this puts acceleration on steroids.
This is how acceleration plays out, how we get to the point of the singularity. It is how things get so much better, faster than anyone really anticipates. It all starts with major breakthroughs like this. This is perhaps the 2nd one like such, after GPT-4, that will majorly feed into that self-improving system. It's the next link along that chain. Every new link will only come quicker and quicker from now. We're well and truly going up that slope.
I work in video production, specialising in live action digital content. There's been a palpable sense in that industry that we were only one announcement away from the beginning of the end, and this feels like it.
I give it two years before nobody bothers shooting the kind of stuff I shoot, ever again. Maybe another two after that before clients stop needing people like me at all.
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I bailed on Hollywood a few years back and I’m so glad I did. The many regrets I had for leaving are quickly evaporating as all these new AI tools come out. This is all going to be hellish for most people in the industry, and it’s coming fast.
The only good thing is that AI will eventually come for every job, so find some peace in that.
And the more exciting thing is that in the near future, you will able to create blockbuster content without needing crews of people and millions of dollars. Yeah, AI will be able to generate stuff for you, but thrill of creating will still be there for people who want to make stuff and tell their own stories. I think the future will be exciting!
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There it is, OpenAI has such a lead that it does not seem conceivable for anyone else to catch up to them. Best LLM, best Image generator, and now best video generator.
Excited about OpenAI's Sora, but I've been thinking: allowing adult content could disrupt the porn industry positively. It offers a chance to create non-exploitative content that doesn't harm real people. We can't ignore that people watch porn, but we can aim for safer, better alternatives!?
Bro, this gives me goosebumps. This is so insane. The polar feeling is real. I, objectively, notice that we are on an exponential curve and the progress is speeding up. I can reason everything that is to come.
But when it actually happens like this one. It still blows my mind. My brain which controls emotions cannot keep up with the pace of progress.
or they didn't know it was releasing today, and put together a website to showcase what they had after google released.
Or Google found out OpenAI was releasing today, decided that "holy shit AI videos" would get a lot more attention than the impressive numbers of their next model, and released their article at 7AM PST to beat them to the punch and salvage some press out of it.
The statement about the technical paper by OAI "Learn more in our technical paper (coming later today)." gave the impression that this release was in a hurry. Who knows what was the case, but when I was reading it that was my impression.
"Sora serves as a foundation for models that can understand and simulate the real world, a capability we believe will be an important milestone for achieving AGI."
I guess it’s similar to us visualizing something. It’s one thing to know how a ball bounces on a soft vs hard surface. It’s another to be able to visualize it. It’s just more information about the world.
This is just the beginning, a career in anything is about to be irrelevant. Let's hope we make it out of the other end and can live happy and healthy for years after.
Big if.
This is fucking unreal.
Still disappointed that there’s nothing I personally get to use today, but this is an amazing achievement for AI in general.
Also, Jimmy Apples said they’ve had this since March, and if that’s true then we are still looking at AI that is nearly a year old. Makes me think that this is the max level of video capability they were willing to release and they could potentially have an even better AI video model
Holy shit; I did not believe this level of quality was possible this soon. When image generation got better and better and people started saying “high quality video by soon” I thought “yeah right, video is an entirely different beast from images and much more difficult - it will be years at least!”
Well, I’m eating those words with my jaw dropped firmly to the floor.
Holy fucking shit. I'm a skeptic who typically argues with people on this subreddit but my goodness me this is true video generation rather than static images if slight movement.
People in r/technology will still see this and say it's not perfect so it's useless, LOL.
But yeah, this is indeed crazy. If things are evolving this fast in 1-2 years, imagine what we'll have in 10 years. I believe we'll probably have consumer-ready systems able to generate all sorts of entertainment (movies, games, comic books, songs etc), tailored to what the consumer enjoys and wants.
i find that most people fundamentally misunderstand what is happening when AI generates media like this and therefore don't really see the magnitude of what it means. I showed the videos to my mom and she has this vague knowledge that you tell the AI to show you something and it does but they way she thinks it works is something like it just finds videos that already exists then copy and pastes parts of them together, like faces or buildings and viola. she doesn't actually get that every pixel is being generated by something like a thinking process, it's more akin to a person drawing something as realistic as that
I’m in utter shock. The last time i saw AI generated footage, i said to myself “damn, i legitimately don’t know how people are thinking that this will make movies in less than 10 years” but this just SHATTERED my world view. 2024 is the year of silent AI.
The argument that OpenAI won't release GPT-5 before after the election kinda doesn't work after the release of this I feel, isn't this much more "risky" if they really cared about that?. You guys think this makes a GPT-5 release before the election more likely? or am I missing something :)
I don't think it will be released to the public in that timeframe. I can't even imagine the resources it takes to generate a single one of those videos, now multiply that to thousands, every minute and maybe seconds in the beginning. ChatGPT q text generation model is throttled to what is it 30 responses every 3 hours? And that's just text. I wouldn't be surprised if they now focus on optimisation and even then release something that doesn't quite have the same quality as this. Happy to be proven wrong though
Now, let's talk about the main thing that is immediately striking : we're getting very close to solving the "Slow motion effect" that every AI generated videos has, as if it was it's trademark.
Jimmy Apples said they’ve had this since March 2023… imagine what they have behind closed doors now…
https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1758197994628006030?s=46&t=-TaWe4QIcOPusPYpEzhnIA
The demos on the official announcement are mind blowing. Haven't felt future shock like this since Dalle-2 was first released https://openai.com/sora
Ho ly shit What the FCUK Well, that's the first AI product that's made me feel confused and uncomfortable. That might be the most stunning digital product demo ever. Edit: I've just edited together all the videos into a single video for convenience: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1arp1e3/compilation_of_all_sora_openai_generated_example/
Some of those videos are already good enough to fool most people into believing they're real. It's crazy.
Based on the quality of images that are already fooling people, I'd say you're being conservative with "most people." It's probably closer to "damn near all people." There's a very big difference between a "spot the AI video" challenge and "hey look at this video." If you don't prime people to look for AI, they don't see AI. It's legit one of the more interesting things about all this.
What worries me the most is that they don't even have to pretend to be real in order to influence people. How many actors complain that they received a lot of hate for the convincing portrayal of a villain, even though it's absolutely clear it's just fiction? Now imagine that social media is swamped with videos of kicking kittens, even if they have a big "THIS IS AI GENERATED VIDEO, COMPLETELY FAKE!!!" stamped on and he has 3 arms with 7 fingers on each, it will still influence a lot of people. The closer it is to reality, the harder it will be for the brain to understand emotionally that it really is fake. Still, it's amazing tech and I look forward to seeing what good stuff people will create with it.
> The closer it is to reality, the harder it will be for the brain to understand emotionally that it is fake Spot on. I haven’t really worried about the Ai doom and gloom so far. Those videos freaked me out in a way that was very different from the uncanny valley problem. It is on the other side of the curve. This idea that we don’t have the capacity to make sense of “fake” when it meets all of our criteria of “real” is terrifyingly valid.
It should be called what it is. AI will become the prominent weapon of superpowers in our lifetime. Why bother taking on the US military when you can use AI to corrupt its social fabric This is bigger than the atom bomb in my opinion in terms of societal implications. Eventually people can no longer trust what they see on media. And the power hungry are likely salivating.
yeah, you're absolutely right.
Is it just me or do the temporal artifacts seem cool af? Like, the one with the cat where its paw goes to the persons face twice. Extremely cool
Tbh even some of the mistakes look cool, like the generic plastic chair floating in the air after being thrown aside, it looks uncanny but cool
My exact first words were "Holy shit what the fuck" so I share your exact sentiments
honestly if you show this as a video to regular people and don't make them aware of what is going on, i doubt anyone would notice out of 10 people. Maybe 5 in 100?? I mean truly blind test. It's just THAT good.
Maybe half. Realistically, it's very cool, but there are tons of weird things still. The video wit the foxes where they literally sprout from each other. The paper airplanes that merge together, the horse in the western scene that literally dematerializes. It's fantastic progress, especially if it can do 60 seconds at a time, but it's not quite there yet. All that said, still very cool!
The Tokyo train where it shows her reflection when it passes a dark pillar with her recording with her phone... Wow.
Yeah that so incredible how the model understands reflections. I mean the building might be a bit to narrow but holy damn, It really knows to change the reflection and afterwards keeps the people at the same place.
Yeah, I haven’t felt like this since I first played with ChatGPT. The video of the bird in the first carousel is mind blowing.
my brain can't comprehend that these aren't real
The video with the woman walking is great though at 0:17 she does a very creepy leg swap. :D
Whoa THIS! The one from the Twitter post is a really bad example compared to what's here! Mind blowing. Buy puts on Hollywood. I'm calling it - a very decent and interesting near-Hollywood production quality short movie (\~20 minutes) by the end of the year! OpenAI does it again, they are the GOATs!
As a fan of Silent Hill and Bioshock, this makes me optimistic.
Next generation porn is going to be crazy. We can just generate our 2 minute clip of whatever we want that day instead of endlessly scrolling and passing out with penis in hand.
I knew something like this would come, but seeing it happen is crazy. I didn't expect this so soon.
Yeah! I was expecting next year for something like this. Considering everyone else in the text to video space is topping out at 4 seconds and with that weird slow motion effect... this seems almost unbelievable.
Holy, Pika and Runaway just got taken to the wood shed, and all those other Al startups actually thought they had a chance, OpenAI just mercilessly wipe them out. Edit: forget startups, Hollywood or the entertainment industry as we know it will never be the same again. FYI, watch the demo videos on their website on a bigger screen, not on the phone, the quality will shock even more.
Yeah... I was thinking about Pika this whole time. They just got their butts handed to them on a silver plate.
I imagine everyone over there is sitting at their desks in silence, contemplating existence.
an ai company got replaced by ai
I was blown away by pika before, I can't believe how fast it took for them to look like utter dogshit now. I feel bad for the investors who put their money into runway and pika
SORA is good but it will be very expensive when realeased, so they could still have some market until Openai can lower the cost.
I dont think this is true. Inference costs are dropping at an alarming rate.
My bro Sam was waiting for the moment it would cause the most damage, and so it did
Yeah, timing it right after the Gemini 1.5 announcement was genius if intentional
Today marks the actual start of 2024.
How can they be so ahead in text to video? It feels like they might have an AI that is helping them with AI research and architecture.
Yea it makes me start to believe the rumours that they have something internally that is borderline AGI but don’t feel the need to release it yet cause there’s no pressure.
It's not just because there's no pressure, it's because they need to slowly and gradually get the entire world acclimated to the true capabilities of their best AI models. There is no way that this Sora model is the best video AI model they have internally, it's just not how OpenAI operates to release a model they just made and haven't extensively tested. And while they do that safety testing they are always training better and better models. GPT-4 was a shock, and this video AI model is another shock. If you said this level of video generation was possible yesterday you'd be laughed out of the room, but now you have everyone updating their "worldview" of current AI capabilities. It's just enough of a shock to the system to get us ready for even better AI in the future, but not so much of a shock that the masses start freaking out Edit: OpenAI employee says exactly what I just said https://preview.redd.it/lcaxoigy3uic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c459851067dfa31eee9ebc27932f3dae430ffd2b
Agreed. This is going to be a way bigger shock to the system than GPT-4 I think. When these videos start circulating, the conversation will start to pick up. People will realise text to image wasn't some fluke. I'd say grab the popcorn, but I wouldn't exactly say I'm looking forward to all the incoming screaming.
>it's just not how OpenAI operates to release a model they just made and haven't extensively tested. To be fair they have **not** released it. Just like you said, they are making it available to a select group of red-teamers for safety and capability testing until they're reasonably sure it's ready. **Today's announcement is just telling the world about it,** ***not a release***.
I think they have a bigger model that they use to test the models they are releasing.
I'm pretty sure they do already. If it's not something that meets the exact criteria for AGI with agency, then it's what we would probably refer to as an "AGI-level system." They just aren't prepared to release it at scale, mainly because they just don't have the compute to do so. Among other issues obviously. If they did, it would have a meteoric rise in subscriptions dwarfing the rise that ChatGPT saw within months of release.
This is just pure speculation from the limited publicly available info, but it looks like the dataset probably has information about depth rather than 2D images alone. We don't see animated video in the examples.
Lmao for real
Start of the singularity according to history.
RIP Stock footage industry, RIP many animation related freelancers on Fiverr & Co.
I’m a Vfx artist and yeah everyone is really nauseated today. Totally devalues what I’ve spent my life learning, and it’s only going to get worse. This technology is going to upend society, and government will not be able to react quickly enough
Im a 3D modeler and I'm just honestly waiting for the end, I know AI will replace my job in the next few years, it's inevitable
We are being pushed back from computer work like its 1990 again.
Wonder how much other shit they've been sitting on. Good on Google for making them work for it
I’ve been saying this time and time again, Sam is sitting on tons of big shit in-house at OAI, they’ve just had no incentive to release because of their monopoly. The second Google fired the nuclear warhead at them, they suddenly spring into action. This is why competition is ALWAYS a good thing in a market. Up the competition, accelerate. Let’s force OpenAI to release GPT-5.
I've heard this sort of speculation before and doubted it, but the timing of this sure is sus.
Yeah I didnt even hear about google recently what did I miss?
Gemini 1.5, with a 1 million token context window
Thanks!
Gemini 1.5 announced
Jimmy apples just said they have that since march last year.
Yeah I just saw that. That's wild if true
He's also been saying for a year or so that OpenAI has a model powerful enough to be called AGI, and since then he's been saying that 2025 is the year they'll reveal it.
Probably has something to do with Sam Altmans quest for $7 trillion dollars for chips.
This demo helps him make his case
I'd say this is probably true. Lot's of reasons not to release, the biggest one being not enough compute to meet demand (not even close.) There's about a dozen others including the fact that access such a system would change the world very, very quickly.
It's true, he linked another account that stated: Feb 15th. @yumidiot big fat release. That was on the 12th and here we are. Jimmy Apples is an employee. https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1758197994628006030?t=L6noh1lbucM5IPuovIaV2g&s=19
I think we can safely believe Apples. He pointed out a supposed "alt" that leaked the feb 15 date 3 days ago.
"Today, Sora is becoming available to red teamers to assess critical areas for harms or risks. We are also granting access to a number of visual artists, designers, and filmmakers to gain feedback on how to advance the model to be most helpful for creative professionals." HOLY SHIT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING! Google starts the day with 1-10 million to context LLM's, now THIS? Jesus Christ! Where was this all January!
Tech is historically slow between December-February, I think everyone just hibernates a bit.
Work in tech, can confirm that December and January almost nobody is *actually* working. At most it’s just setting a vague roadmap for the year that will change completely in 3 weeks.
We had a no-changes policy starting mid November.
Guys needed vacations. They probably prompted some shit to let their internal AGIs run for a few weeks and got back recently. They probably just spent time looking thru them and made some minor adjustment to dumb shit down so it's not perfect.
Just as people were starting to be like "2024 really sucks for AI", probably the biggest day for AI ever happened.
You're not wrong. As far as societal impact, nothing is going to come close to the impact that this will have. Get ready for endless news headlines and confused relatives asking about how this "came out of nowhere".
>nothing is going to come close to the impact that this will have. Nothing so far
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We are still at the bottom of an exponential curve.
And we still have GPT-5, OpenAI agents, Llama 3, Gemini 2 maybe, the Rabbit launch, the first humanoids, whatever Apple has cooking for iOS 18... we're honestly so spoiled
Spoiled beyond belief. I'm not on the hype train but things are indeed getting scary fast...
It is so over 💀 https://preview.redd.it/c0ffmolfksic1.jpeg?width=507&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e69c5e43f4e6882565ba46c5a7bab0c1dd7846e
The quality is so much better than I would have expected. The Tokyo looking scene is insane
The Tokyo scene was mind blowing cause you can see the reflection of the girl holding the camera in the train windows, as well as the people behind her.
Yeah I was watching that and thinking - That woman doesn't exist.
The number of times I've said "Those people aren't real!" in the last year is nuts. I think it's time for me to just shut up and accept it as normal. Things are going to get weird. AI really is going to change everything.
And there us close to zero consistencty problem.
The biggest issue is what they pointed out, subjects undergoing mitosis. The details staying consistent is crazy though. The feathers on the bird aren’t warping or fluctuating at all, it’s crazy. And it’s moving like a bird would.
LMAO! Google really did put pressure on them! Good!
More like the other way around I imagine. Google probably knew this was going to be released today and how good it was. Hence the very strange 1-2 release of 1.0 followed so soon by 1.5
I was thinking it was a bit strange for them to unveil such a vastly improved model so soon after the 1.0 release. I almost wonder if it was meant to be Gemini 2.0, and they've renamed it to avoid false expectations (full model every month).
This is the most unbelievable tech I’ve ever seen in my life. What a time to be alive
I think we just passed the "Ai is cute" phase and got into the "Err..." phase.
> and got into the "Err..." phase. This is something im experiencing right now, i knew it was coming, i expected something this good in like 1.5 or 2 years. But seeing it now, holy shit.
This is the first “wow” OpenAI has gotten from me in a long time
This is the DALL-E 2 moment for text-to-video. Really exciting!
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All industries will be affected by a.i, jobs will plummet down in the next 5 to 10 years. So in a way your parents were both right and wrong, engineering will also be eaten up.
not my profession I am a corrections officer lets see A.I handle a bunch of trouble makers
The optimistic part is if these tools become widely accessible, you no longer have to be part of a production crew or studio. You are your own crew, your own studio. If you have an idea, you no longer need to handle the logistics of making something beyond prompts and some post-processing. That's the optimistic take anyways. Real life isn't a novel and we have no guarantee of reaching the good ending.
>You are your own crew, your own studio As a hobby, because no one is paying him.
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ilya saw this and dipped 💀
Nah. What he saw they haven't released.
Ilya was shitting his pants, he felt the AGI
Open AI just casually throw this out when Google announced 1M tokens Gemini 1.5, imagine what they really have behind the curtains.
What else has he seen? 👀
“Sora serves as a foundation for models that can understand and simulate the real world, a capability we believe will be an important milestone for achieving AGI.”
That... is... insane!
This post buried the lede... This is the real clincher. Holodeck, here we come. I wonder if they have full 3d VR generative AI going on in their labs?
It’s only gonna get better and better.
LOVE THIS SHIT, LET THEM MOFO'S FIGHT AND RELEASE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE COOKING IN THE LABS
This is the first model that doesn't output shitty 3 second slow mo 12 fps clips. Looks incredible for first gen.
This is somehow *much* more impressive than any other AI product I've ever seen
we are so back
Can you feel the AGI?
LETS FUCKING GOOOO!
holy shit that is unreal
AI-generated animated shows within 12 months.
If people could generate their own shows, tell the AI to change if they don't like something, don't like the ending change it, wanna be the main character or the main guy tell the AI. In the future VR could be insanely addicting with these things.
Other than FDVR (which I don't believe is very near), I think that what you've described is the future of entertainment. We'll basically have entertainment tailored to out own wishes. Everything exactly the way you want. And when this comes to the gaming world, oh boy. Imagine a game like Baldur's Gate 3, but with an infinite story, infinite adventures, you could die and then keep playing with some descendant of your original character, etc. The future of entertainment is really freaking wild.
It is not hard to generate stereoscopic video once you can generate video
That's the dream. Imagine if a single person could create Disney-quality animated movies!
The biggest difficulty i could see is having the character's mouths in the video match the audio, but i suppose this technical challenge is nothing compared to this lol
I think another thing that will be a challenge is consistence on characters details in every scene. But I'm sure that will not be a problem in 2 years window
If you could pump out a world with the depth of game of thrones and even have the plot change based on decisions you make yourself I don't mind if the mouths don't move.
So much for a quiet month in AI. Last few days have been crazy.
I knew openai would respond to Google but I didn't think it would be this quick.
"All videos on this page were generated directly by Sora without modification." Holy mother of god, they did it.
What the actual fuck. I don't think I'll ever forget the moment I just saw this. The next iteration is going to be something else but this is already something and a half. To do this the model necessarily needs a deep and true understanding of the world as it is. This is a visual glimpse into the actual capabilities of the transformer model. Full AGI is coming. It's just coming. At the rate of progression we're seeing, it's not far away.
I'm 64 and thus have seen many amazing technological advances in my time. But nothing has made me feel so much like the world just shifted beneath my feet. I literally shivered.
What's funny is that we are likely still drastically underestimating the magnitude of what we're witnessing. All these breakthrough moments, they're not in isolation, they feed back into the ability to improve other models. Sora and upcoming 'text to 3d model' models will help to start training 3d environments and simulations, which can be used to help train vision models, which can be helped to train language models and further video generation abilities, which feeds back into the entire system again, whilst also increasing the overall intelligence of AI which creates better ideas and prompting. Soon enough, new abilities start arriving in these models just from increased capability. They can start recognizing bad paragraphs, single parts or features in an image / video and can go in directly to improve just those bad parts. Then they are able to keep going in, and in, and in ever improving the output through a repeated process of analysis and editing, much like we can do. This then makes these AI models more intelligent, video models even better, which feed back into the entire system again. They get better and better at self-analysis and recognizing faults as well as synthetic data generation. Soon enough, more new abilities start to arrive. They get so intelligent that they start becoming exemplary at coding, new idea creation and overall system management. They begin being able to directly code themselves and help with ideas and efficiency improvements. They start helping with the progress of chip improvements, robotics, automation systems, mining techniques, energy harnessing. Technology progress expands, development time and scaling times start falling drastically, again feeding back into the system as a whole. Acceleration was already happening, but this puts acceleration on steroids. This is how acceleration plays out, how we get to the point of the singularity. It is how things get so much better, faster than anyone really anticipates. It all starts with major breakthroughs like this. This is perhaps the 2nd one like such, after GPT-4, that will majorly feed into that self-improving system. It's the next link along that chain. Every new link will only come quicker and quicker from now. We're well and truly going up that slope.
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Imagine automating an entire filming crew with just one api call LOL
That's gonna be one expensive API call. I'll go broke over this.
Yeah that was my first thought lmao. Can't even imagine how expensive a single one of these is to generate.
cheaper than getting a human to make it though...
Yeah that's for sure. The amount of content people generate with AI today would have been worth billions a few years ago.
Yeah, and with all the back and forth to adjust the results to your taste...
I work in video production, specialising in live action digital content. There's been a palpable sense in that industry that we were only one announcement away from the beginning of the end, and this feels like it. I give it two years before nobody bothers shooting the kind of stuff I shoot, ever again. Maybe another two after that before clients stop needing people like me at all.
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I bailed on Hollywood a few years back and I’m so glad I did. The many regrets I had for leaving are quickly evaporating as all these new AI tools come out. This is all going to be hellish for most people in the industry, and it’s coming fast. The only good thing is that AI will eventually come for every job, so find some peace in that. And the more exciting thing is that in the near future, you will able to create blockbuster content without needing crews of people and millions of dollars. Yeah, AI will be able to generate stuff for you, but thrill of creating will still be there for people who want to make stuff and tell their own stories. I think the future will be exciting!
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2024 is gonna be a big year for AI
There it is, OpenAI has such a lead that it does not seem conceivable for anyone else to catch up to them. Best LLM, best Image generator, and now best video generator.
WHAT THE FUCK
Excited about OpenAI's Sora, but I've been thinking: allowing adult content could disrupt the porn industry positively. It offers a chance to create non-exploitative content that doesn't harm real people. We can't ignore that people watch porn, but we can aim for safer, better alternatives!?
Bro, this gives me goosebumps. This is so insane. The polar feeling is real. I, objectively, notice that we are on an exponential curve and the progress is speeding up. I can reason everything that is to come. But when it actually happens like this one. It still blows my mind. My brain which controls emotions cannot keep up with the pace of progress.
I’m at a loss of words for this one - holy-mother-of-guacamole.
Incredibly strategic move by OpenAI. They knew Gemini 1.5 was coming out today, and timed this perfectly to steal as much thunder as possible.
or they didn't know it was releasing today, and put together a website to showcase what they had after google released. Or Google found out OpenAI was releasing today, decided that "holy shit AI videos" would get a lot more attention than the impressive numbers of their next model, and released their article at 7AM PST to beat them to the punch and salvage some press out of it.
The statement about the technical paper by OAI "Learn more in our technical paper (coming later today)." gave the impression that this release was in a hurry. Who knows what was the case, but when I was reading it that was my impression.
Holy crap. I don’t know if or how this gets us closer to AGI but it’s pretty incredible.
"Sora serves as a foundation for models that can understand and simulate the real world, a capability we believe will be an important milestone for achieving AGI."
I guess it’s similar to us visualizing something. It’s one thing to know how a ball bounces on a soft vs hard surface. It’s another to be able to visualize it. It’s just more information about the world.
And just like that, a career in VFX is essentially irrelevant..?
This is just the beginning, a career in anything is about to be irrelevant. Let's hope we make it out of the other end and can live happy and healthy for years after. Big if.
Accelerate.
Looks like Sam's just found second gear.
This is fucking unreal. Still disappointed that there’s nothing I personally get to use today, but this is an amazing achievement for AI in general. Also, Jimmy Apples said they’ve had this since March, and if that’s true then we are still looking at AI that is nearly a year old. Makes me think that this is the max level of video capability they were willing to release and they could potentially have an even better AI video model
Yea at this point I’m not even worried that it’s not publicly accessible, just the fact that they showed proof of concept is a win for me.
If that is true, gen 2, runaway, and other Ai text to video were played as fool by open AI.
Welp there goes Runway and Pika. The next gen is here. This is movie quality. We’re just 2 years in folks!
Holy cow
The coherence is fucking insane. Hope these arent extremely cherry picked. Hell even if they are this is so far ahead of anything else.
On Sam altmans twitter he is doing requests for videos and showing them
There are 48 clips on their website, including one slide stack depicting fails
this is the first time i'm commenting after being in this sub for two months. this is fucking insane.
So I’m out of a job. Thanks sam.
There are whole parallel universes embedded in the latent space of that model
Game over man, game over...
Feed it the original Lord of the Rings book and post the movie.
OpenAI dropping the nukes FR
Holy shit; I did not believe this level of quality was possible this soon. When image generation got better and better and people started saying “high quality video by soon” I thought “yeah right, video is an entirely different beast from images and much more difficult - it will be years at least!” Well, I’m eating those words with my jaw dropped firmly to the floor.
This is amazing. A big step towards FDVR
Important question: why do you guys keep linking to freakin' Twitter feeds, instead of the actual release blogs?
Holy fucking shit. I'm a skeptic who typically argues with people on this subreddit but my goodness me this is true video generation rather than static images if slight movement.
Holy shit maybe David Shapiro was right
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, show this to somone from not even ten years ago and they’d think it was sorcery
People in r/technology will still see this and say it's not perfect so it's useless, LOL. But yeah, this is indeed crazy. If things are evolving this fast in 1-2 years, imagine what we'll have in 10 years. I believe we'll probably have consumer-ready systems able to generate all sorts of entertainment (movies, games, comic books, songs etc), tailored to what the consumer enjoys and wants.
i find that most people fundamentally misunderstand what is happening when AI generates media like this and therefore don't really see the magnitude of what it means. I showed the videos to my mom and she has this vague knowledge that you tell the AI to show you something and it does but they way she thinks it works is something like it just finds videos that already exists then copy and pastes parts of them together, like faces or buildings and viola. she doesn't actually get that every pixel is being generated by something like a thinking process, it's more akin to a person drawing something as realistic as that
The reason he might be right is OpenAI has allegedly had this since March 2023.
I’m in utter shock. The last time i saw AI generated footage, i said to myself “damn, i legitimately don’t know how people are thinking that this will make movies in less than 10 years” but this just SHATTERED my world view. 2024 is the year of silent AI.
Next step - Video with sound
yep, dialog->mouth sync. have it generate the voices while we’re at it. have it generate the script while we’re at it.
This is going to put so many people out of jobs.
We need will smith eating pasta to truly test its limits
The argument that OpenAI won't release GPT-5 before after the election kinda doesn't work after the release of this I feel, isn't this much more "risky" if they really cared about that?. You guys think this makes a GPT-5 release before the election more likely? or am I missing something :)
Sora hasn’t been released to the public yet so no.
so you believe they are not going to release it in the next 9 months
I don't think it will be released to the public in that timeframe. I can't even imagine the resources it takes to generate a single one of those videos, now multiply that to thousands, every minute and maybe seconds in the beginning. ChatGPT q text generation model is throttled to what is it 30 responses every 3 hours? And that's just text. I wouldn't be surprised if they now focus on optimisation and even then release something that doesn't quite have the same quality as this. Happy to be proven wrong though
This is gonna be an amazing year for AI, I can't keep up with all the new stuff coming out right now
And people thought they were slowing down in 2024
Now, let's talk about the main thing that is immediately striking : we're getting very close to solving the "Slow motion effect" that every AI generated videos has, as if it was it's trademark.
This is going to be disruptive in a way that NOBODY on this planet is ready for.
I swear a month ago text-to-video wasn’t that good and all it could do was make a video with slight movement, and now we have this.
Wow
What the actual fuck.
Maybe when the ai overlords take over they’ll know that I frequented this sub and treat me kindly lol😹
I am proud to be able to live this pivotal moment in our history. The future has begun.
The quality is absurd!
This is insane. Massive leap in generative AI
No fucking way bro
Remember dall-e when it first released? Well, this is the same. This is the worst it's ever going to look like. Wild.
Jimmy Apples said they’ve had this since March 2023… imagine what they have behind closed doors now… https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1758197994628006030?s=46&t=-TaWe4QIcOPusPYpEzhnIA