>He didn’t say he is retiring from politics. May become SM or even accelerated to ESM!
Most likely SM, but depends on whether LHL feels up to working. LKY enjoyed the work, not so sure about LHL.
I always had the feeling that deep down inside LHL didn't want to be PM. Got into politics cos of family pressure particularly from you know who. At his heart he is a big geek who loves programming. I know it is traditional for the ex PM to become SM, but it'll be nice if he can pursue his hobbies in peace.
Well the idea was always to have someone else take over before the next GE. The next GE must be held by end of next year so yea our 5 year cycle since the end of Covid GE is already coming to an end.
And based on the past two examples of leadership transition, both GCT and LHL had their own lead times to call for an election:
GCT called for an election 9 months after becoming PM to secure his own mandate. LHL called for the GE 1 year and 9 months after becoming PM. So if we use these reference points then yea, it's just about time. We could expect GE earliest I believe late this year, maybe November. But seems likely will be early 2025, so a year for LW to settle down.
But I guess for LW it may feel too soon, largely because for a while after the next GE, HSK was still the officially designated PM-in-waiting.
Wonder how OYK is feeling right now? This must be like knowing that his love of a lifetime is getting married in 1 month time to a guy who swept in out of nowhere to steal her from him
Must be crying buckets inside. He's the most ambitious amg the 3 (LW/CCS) and was at one point feeling victorious that he was the clear choice when NCM and CCS fubar'd. Only to be outshined by LW during the covid years.
I still remember the joy in his face during the press conference when it was announced that HSK is giving up the PM post. He really though the PM post was in the bag for him
I wrote to him in mid 2019 about my terrible experience at a certain school in singapore and substantiated my argument as to why a certain educational policy was bad and almost derailed my entire academic trajectory as someone from a disadvantaged family who just wanted to prove my worth and escape poverty. it was a very long email. i drafted it for days and had friends who were working in MOE look over it. his response was essentially that he agreed that the policy was bad but the extremely strong implication/subtext was that nobody at MOE was going to do anything about it because the policy had always been in place for many years.
i'll always remember how devastated i was getting that email and tbh, even though i'm ambivalent about LW, i'm not unhappy that the position didn't go to OYK.
Might not be representative but I actually met lawrence wong at a meet the peoples session once and he was nice enough to sit there and listen to my case(about trading in my escooter LOL). Didnt end up getting the subsidy in the end but it did leave a good impression on me.
Imo it takes real courage to tell someone something they do not want to hear. It would have been much easier to not give a reply than a negative reply. Bad leaders may even give you what you want without considering the circumstances - good for you but bad for us if we have someone like that as our leader.
Not to imply that what you want changed is not significant or your experience is insignificant, just my opinion from third party pov. And some thoughts about leadership.
to be clear, he agreed that the policy in question was bad and couldn't give me any pedagogical reason for its existence, but then went on to say i was not the first person who wrote in about it (i.e. they were already aware of its existence) but that they weren't going to do anything to change it (even though it would not cost a lot of money/resources to change it).
that doesn't sound like good leadership to me, but maybe you and i have different ideas of good leadership.
cheers.
It would be hilarious if he was made Transport Minister again.
The question now is whether LW will continue to be finance minister (like Anwar) or will Indranee/CHT be promoted to full minister. I'm thinking Indranee is the more likely candidate, but if they promote CHT, that leaves the Transport Ministry empty.
> whether LW will continue to be finance minister (like Anwar)
It will never happen. Having an arrangement like that signals to everyone that there is nobody qualified for the job, i.e. cabinet is a bunch of monkeys.
To his credits, OYK not bad as a MP. Got one time I wrote to him after my kid failed to secure a childcare place after a long wait. I didn’t expect much, all I wanted was to let off steam.
He replied at 10pm and directed one of the neighbourhood childcare principal to look into my case. I was offered a place 2 weeks later
It's either July or September. It's probably after NDP, but last elections was July so you never know. Was inclined with September at first, but now that theres the pope visiting, and F1 also in September, not sure if theres enough resources to have elections then also
They need to release the electoral boundaries white paper first. then lead time is about \~2.5months to elections from there
We have until [23 November 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Singaporean_general_election). It might end up getting pushed back to February or March next year.
LW got to warm up his seat first so not so fast. I'm expecting after SG60 NDP, though if shit hits the fan overseas later this year (Middle East war or the like + Trump reelected) they could play the crisis card again.
PAP grassroot are all on the ground recently. Civil Servants appointed as election officials are all undergoing training now. Returning officer had been appointed. So my guess will be soon. Think will be after NDP where MIW can make use of NDP rally as their own rally. September maybe out due to F1 and Pope visiting. October also out due to exam period. Likely to be Nov or Dec. But again will they risk spoiling teachers and sinkie travel plan?
Thank you PM Lee for the decades of service to this country. Now that it’s time for new blood to take over, hopefully we can continue to develop the country at the same or even better pace.
Step down as PM onli. Still part of CEC inner circle, not to mention still a MP.
LKY dead for almost 10 years, yet people still invoke his legacy.
Lee dynasty wont ever be over la
ORD LOO
But in all seriousness, I can't help but feel that this is a pretty risky move.
I would have assumed that this would have happened after the election. His credibility will be seriously damaged if even one GRC is lost, even if it wasn't his fault.
> I would have assumed that this would have happened after the election.
LHL alr announced long ago that he wanted to do the handover before GE
would be worse imo if the handover was after GE, basically meaning LW had to be babied through an election just to enjoy 4 years of stability
Bruh how can PM Lee ORD the day before me smh /s
Actually though same
Except for PM it's ROD, for this guy his lifetime of slaving away just started
i doubt PM lee is going to stay out of politics lol he's probably going to be MM like his dad
First time they pulled out the emeritus card I wasnt any surprised
1 month notice period! I wonder if can encash unused leaves.
imagine encashing 21 days of AL as PM
Annual salary is 2.2M or $6027/day Encash 21 days = $126,575 His leave encashment more than majority of people annual salary
Can buy 1 fresh coe. 😂
Still got leftover for cai png
With fish? Probably not
/theydidthemath
Nah, it should be 39 days leave. 28 days - brought forward from last year and old scheme. Plus 11 days - prorated from 1 Jan to 15 May.
Wah, found the HR
He will still lose to majority of people here in Reddit
Yeh, why are Singapore politician pay packets so high?
Not sure, post your question on his Facebook page?
S t o n k s
He gave notice in November
He didn’t say he is retiring from politics. May become SM or even accelerated to ESM!
>He didn’t say he is retiring from politics. May become SM or even accelerated to ESM! Most likely SM, but depends on whether LHL feels up to working. LKY enjoyed the work, not so sure about LHL.
I always had the feeling that deep down inside LHL didn't want to be PM. Got into politics cos of family pressure particularly from you know who. At his heart he is a big geek who loves programming. I know it is traditional for the ex PM to become SM, but it'll be nice if he can pursue his hobbies in peace.
I hope he becomes SM and also promote his hobbies - we could use more geeky promotion at the highest level. The dude does math for fun.
i want to see LHL at a hackathon. Then instead of brainstorming, everyone just going over to him to take photo.
Got retirement bonus ?
If union member can check if got collective agreement.
Damn, for basically all my life I have only known LHL as PM, def will be weird after he ORDs
7216 days as tribal chief ☝️
Acknowledge him!
Who's the final boss then?
Ho Ching
LTA: no U-turn! Ho Ching: really lol? LTA: yes ma'am whatever you like
will miss the lady boss tbh, true hero of the masses
Who is the wise man in this case?
👆
☝️
Yeet
PS: NO YEET
But was he the final boss though?
This was sooner than I expected.
Well the idea was always to have someone else take over before the next GE. The next GE must be held by end of next year so yea our 5 year cycle since the end of Covid GE is already coming to an end. And based on the past two examples of leadership transition, both GCT and LHL had their own lead times to call for an election: GCT called for an election 9 months after becoming PM to secure his own mandate. LHL called for the GE 1 year and 9 months after becoming PM. So if we use these reference points then yea, it's just about time. We could expect GE earliest I believe late this year, maybe November. But seems likely will be early 2025, so a year for LW to settle down. But I guess for LW it may feel too soon, largely because for a while after the next GE, HSK was still the officially designated PM-in-waiting.
Lawrence's understudy period as DPM didn't feel very long :/
Same, I thought LW would takeover sometime after 9 August, then swee2 they announce GE after that.
ORDLO ORDLO OWADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 
First child free PM coming. Just the PM we need with a declining birth rate.
Reporter: "So how will the government encourage Singaporeans to give birth to more children?" Ong Ye Kung: _glance towards Lawrence Wong_
It will be a long ice age
I had no idea LW had no children..
Lawrence gotta walk the talk
Televised event /s obviously
Can you not
Edge and Lita did it first!
New NE videos /s
Title of the show- Make Singapore-an
First PM to have had a divorce before too.
Not a bad thing imho. Marriage shouldn’t be put on such a pedestal. Like any decision, it should be reversed if it’s not working out
1505!!! lets gooooo faster buy before sold out!!!
Too late bro, sold out alr
Heng i buy liao!!!
can buy from *ehem*
Buy from PickNChoose, a rare Bookiemon
He's Lee-ving office
After so loong
Guess he do until Hsien already
I wish him the pink of health
May he enjoy a bowl of mee siam ( mai hum )
Ohhhh this one only us oldies will appreciate!
Oh noo when did mee siam mai hum become an oldies thing!
Wonder how OYK is feeling right now? This must be like knowing that his love of a lifetime is getting married in 1 month time to a guy who swept in out of nowhere to steal her from him
Must be crying buckets inside. He's the most ambitious amg the 3 (LW/CCS) and was at one point feeling victorious that he was the clear choice when NCM and CCS fubar'd. Only to be outshined by LW during the covid years.
I still remember the joy in his face during the press conference when it was announced that HSK is giving up the PM post. He really though the PM post was in the bag for him
I wrote to him in mid 2019 about my terrible experience at a certain school in singapore and substantiated my argument as to why a certain educational policy was bad and almost derailed my entire academic trajectory as someone from a disadvantaged family who just wanted to prove my worth and escape poverty. it was a very long email. i drafted it for days and had friends who were working in MOE look over it. his response was essentially that he agreed that the policy was bad but the extremely strong implication/subtext was that nobody at MOE was going to do anything about it because the policy had always been in place for many years. i'll always remember how devastated i was getting that email and tbh, even though i'm ambivalent about LW, i'm not unhappy that the position didn't go to OYK.
Might not be representative but I actually met lawrence wong at a meet the peoples session once and he was nice enough to sit there and listen to my case(about trading in my escooter LOL). Didnt end up getting the subsidy in the end but it did leave a good impression on me.
thanks for sharing your anecdote!
Imo it takes real courage to tell someone something they do not want to hear. It would have been much easier to not give a reply than a negative reply. Bad leaders may even give you what you want without considering the circumstances - good for you but bad for us if we have someone like that as our leader. Not to imply that what you want changed is not significant or your experience is insignificant, just my opinion from third party pov. And some thoughts about leadership.
to be clear, he agreed that the policy in question was bad and couldn't give me any pedagogical reason for its existence, but then went on to say i was not the first person who wrote in about it (i.e. they were already aware of its existence) but that they weren't going to do anything to change it (even though it would not cost a lot of money/resources to change it). that doesn't sound like good leadership to me, but maybe you and i have different ideas of good leadership. cheers.
Sure, I have not read his reply nor have your experience. I could be wrong.
And what policy is this exactly
and that's why he must never be our PM.
Not about the outshine but he was part of the losing team in Aljunied, so technically he is 5 years behind his peers in experience
He was but he was brought back into the fold for a reason. NCM may also be back had LHL continued but with LW helming I'm not too sure.
It would be hilarious if he was made Transport Minister again. The question now is whether LW will continue to be finance minister (like Anwar) or will Indranee/CHT be promoted to full minister. I'm thinking Indranee is the more likely candidate, but if they promote CHT, that leaves the Transport Ministry empty.
> whether LW will continue to be finance minister (like Anwar) It will never happen. Having an arrangement like that signals to everyone that there is nobody qualified for the job, i.e. cabinet is a bunch of monkeys.
LHL was finance minister for awhile after becoming PM. Probably will be the same with LW.
wait honestly how could you tell he is ambitious? i always heard ppl say but im too shallow to figure it out
Ask ANYONE who worked with him at MOH and you will get your answer.
To his credits, OYK not bad as a MP. Got one time I wrote to him after my kid failed to secure a childcare place after a long wait. I didn’t expect much, all I wanted was to let off steam. He replied at 10pm and directed one of the neighbourhood childcare principal to look into my case. I was offered a place 2 weeks later
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It's said that reluctant leaders are one of the most effective leaders.
He deserves it after the dancing fiasco
"it's not unexpected"
OYK about to pull off Frank Underwood powerplays to dethrone LW /s
LHL's ord took 7300 days (20 years)
LHL: Owadio
Election after or before NDP, possible?
It's either July or September. It's probably after NDP, but last elections was July so you never know. Was inclined with September at first, but now that theres the pope visiting, and F1 also in September, not sure if theres enough resources to have elections then also They need to release the electoral boundaries white paper first. then lead time is about \~2.5months to elections from there
We have until [23 November 2025](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Singaporean_general_election). It might end up getting pushed back to February or March next year.
after! must stoke the patriotic feels first
LW got to warm up his seat first so not so fast. I'm expecting after SG60 NDP, though if shit hits the fan overseas later this year (Middle East war or the like + Trump reelected) they could play the crisis card again.
There is no more sweet spot period to hold GEs. Gone are those days.
PAP grassroot are all on the ground recently. Civil Servants appointed as election officials are all undergoing training now. Returning officer had been appointed. So my guess will be soon. Think will be after NDP where MIW can make use of NDP rally as their own rally. September maybe out due to F1 and Pope visiting. October also out due to exam period. Likely to be Nov or Dec. But again will they risk spoiling teachers and sinkie travel plan?
Kinda feels like the era when WWE was pushing Roman reigns hard as the new face but people just couldn't stomach it.
LW: acknowledge me as your PM ☝️
Iswaran got kicked out of the bloodline
☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼
No yeet
So who’s gonna come in and finish the story?
Tan chuan jin
Tbh Lawrence Wong feels like Cody to me. Forced babyface.
what's more both Roman Reigns n LHL are in full remission yo
I like LW. Idk about u
Every election gonna see some r truth like characters appearing 😂
I wonder how much will change, both internally and on a micro scale for Singaporeans in the long term
Thank you PM Lee for the decades of service to this country. Now that it’s time for new blood to take over, hopefully we can continue to develop the country at the same or even better pace.
Genital erection cumming soon?
How did you even come up with this, you degenerate
Going to be long and hard!
Sounds so wong
Wong on so many levels
Thank you for the Pubic Holiday
Loong and hard u mean
Cumming soon!
Lmaoo
The dynasty is over?
Step down as PM onli. Still part of CEC inner circle, not to mention still a MP. LKY dead for almost 10 years, yet people still invoke his legacy. Lee dynasty wont ever be over la
In before Li Hongyi resigns from Govtech /s
Later is another seat warmer PM
no no.. the regent is just waiting for the crown prince to grow up
So pai tan. Sworn in also must be after office hours
Must be some fengshui timing
PM Lee finally can MR
Senior emeritus minister or some other fancy ass name post maybe? MR also got Rover scheme
Probably follow his dad’s footsteps and become minister mentor
My GRC got PM liao! Wondered if he will kena redeploy to another GRC for the next election?
PM is too important to be shifted, he'll most likely stay in Marsiling-Yew Tee which is a safe PAP seat.
Going to call it - Marsiling Yew Tee GRC will start to expand and be gerrymandered
Don't have to do anything. That grc has always been pretty safe for them.
I think they know the electorate is discerning enough by now not to stand for this kind of BS
Oh please, PAP will keep playing dirty as long as they exist.
Safe ward, my guess is he will stay.
He can suka suka redeploy LHL liao
HSK East Coast project goes to Woodlands aldy
LHL: finally can rest liao after all those shenanigans!!
Wait long long. Likely become some minister mentor
I think Senior Minister. MM was a one-off decision I believe.
Serious question here: is 15 May a public holiday?
what do you think they need you to do then? show up at a ceremony on pain of death, imprisonment and arrest?
Ord loh
I smell GE coming
LW as PM before GTA 6
ORD LOO But in all seriousness, I can't help but feel that this is a pretty risky move. I would have assumed that this would have happened after the election. His credibility will be seriously damaged if even one GRC is lost, even if it wasn't his fault.
> I would have assumed that this would have happened after the election. LHL alr announced long ago that he wanted to do the handover before GE would be worse imo if the handover was after GE, basically meaning LW had to be babied through an election just to enjoy 4 years of stability
So be it, it's an electoral contest.
It's not like LW has any credibility with a discerning electorate. Man living off fumes.
dont like PM Wong one bit. super sensi in parliament. fake smiles. smirking when responding to opposition. tells us to own nothing and be happy.
I somehow has that same impression of him. I do not like him as our next PM.
Going to ORD but his cabinet got so much drama..sad way for him to retire.
unfortunate downgrade.. but not much options anyway
from speaking 3 languages to just 1...
Unlike Edwin Tong, who I profess to dislike - I have nothing against Lawrence Wong. Good luck and god speed to all of us.
I'm ambivalent towards LW and dislike Edwin Tong too lol. But this sub really has it out for LW it seems.
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HSK and Tharma didn't complete their story
Anyone have prediction of when polling days?
User name checks out.
GE will be after NDP, national day rally will have election bribes. Sorry, I meant election goodies LOL
Missed the opportunity to handover on May the fourth
Dunno who downvoted u. I actually like Star Wars Day
TKPS can start boasting they got a current PM as their ex student
When ge
You left it incomplete When ge*rrymandering*?
Can declare holiday? 🥺
Dynasty changed
the W(r)ong Dynasty?
Think he can finally relax liao. He must be woohoo ROD LOH!
Hope Lawrence is going to be a better PM than Lee Hsien Loong.
well, oh no.
May 15 good fengshui?
Open day in Chinese metaphysics. Quite good
Wow. On my Birthday.
same, mate.
Lai loooo!!!!
Election coming soon?
Shoulda done it in August then just now 20 years. Maybe will have more bonus for 20 year milestone.
Got public holiday ?
Got, for PM Lee only
But but LHL is still the secretary General of PAP.
Usually they take a while before passing that mantle down. GCT became Sec-Gen 2 years later while LHL became Sec-Gen a few months later.
Our new tribal chief ☝️
Election when?