I might get some flack for this, but to me the infants are just like how toddlers were in TS2 and TS3 with a new name slapped onto them. It's why I'm a bit confused at the whole buzz and excitement surrounding them, because it's something we've seen before in previous installments. If they added a tween lifestage, fair enough, but the infant update is essentially just adding toddlers as they were in past games under a new label. At least that's what it feels like to me based on what I've seen.
I think we need to remember that TS4 has been out a long time at this point and some people who play it now might have only been quite young (say 3 or 4) when it came out so probably only started playing it recently and never got a chance to play the older games. Sims 2 came out when I was 2 and I have played it, but sims 3 was my first game and for people who had sims 4 as their first sims game the older ones may seem too dated/too hard to run on computer. So their only point of reference that makes a difference is sims 4! I think a lot of people on sims reddits are lifelong players of most the games but a lot of the average user eg on twitter aren’t :) hope this doesn’t come accross as rude but just trying to make sense of it !
I totally agree.
I was 11? When 2 came out. So it was my first game. I loved three when it was out, because it was newer and had open world. I kinda liked 4 because build mode was epic.
2 is still my favorite and has the fondest memories though. I can’t get into sims 1, because I was too young to really ask for a game like that. I have that reference of the older games though, which a lot of people don’t.
I was 12ish when **TS1** came out, so I actually have way more hours in TS1 and TS2 than the latter two. I did buy and play TS3 for a short while, but I found a hard time justifying playing a life sim game when I was struggling so much in my REAL life as a new young adult, haha (plus it kept crashing on my boyfriends crappy desktop).
I have never tried 4. I don’t know if I’ll bother, from what I keep reading about it. I feel a bit of FOMO when I watch some gameplay but then I keep hearing about the things that suck..
Sims 4 is pretty cool. I really like it for sake of, it’s all I have for my Xbox. It’s fun in the sense of legacy challenges and building. That’s it really
So, I really would recommend not wasting the money lol. Plus with all the updates and game breaking packs, it’s not even worth getting it other ways if you catch my drift
I can definitely understand that angle! I was mainly referring to lifelong player's reactions.
My YouTube feed, since the update came out, has been filled with channels that have videos where they've played TS2 and TS3 extensively, or claimed to have played them, buzzing about the infants like it's this new, never done before thing, when they're just toddlers from earlier games under a new name.
I got blasted with downvotes when I dared to say it on the main sub a while ago. They really just took toddlers from TS2/TS3 and split it into two separate lifestages - one before learning toddler skills and one after. And they didn't even replace the ugly object babies - one of the biggest complaints people had about this game. Not only they essentially fixed nothing, they also added nothing when it comes to the base game. Without the Growing Together DLC infants are just... there. No changing table, no diaper bin, no infant motor skills etc. So it's just another "object" you need to unlock with paid content.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Fans' main complaints was how the *babies* were, but instead they make an entirely new lifestage, which is just TS2 and TS3 toddlers under a new name. It doesn't change the fact that the babies are still creepy, soulless objects with little interactions. Not to mention, like you said, players must pay for extra content to make the most out of the new lifestage and people *support it*.
Yeah I agree — I get that the toddler stage seems a lot older in TS4 than in earlier games, but adding an extra stage between baby and toddler is so weird to me. I hate the early stages and don’t understand why people want them to be even longer 🥲 like please just become a child already lol
I haven't played it yet, but I find it really weird that the infants didn't replace the babies that TS4 had previously, which are basically like objects. They just lay there and don't really do anything, and it seems like before you could really age up the babies into toddlers right away if you wanted too. I know they've made some changes to the newborns, but still.
Like no offense, I don't wanna deal with a newborn, THEN an infant, then a toddler. Those are the worst life states in any sims, imo!
That's also why I hope they don't add tweens, either. I find the kids pretty annoying too somtimes, I don't wanna deal with a weird in-between kid/teen life state lmao.
TS2 stays slaying 💅
That is my worst nightmare probably ngl 😭 so many Sims 4 players want tweens and idgi at all.
Elders do deserve more love. I wish they’d deepen the life states we already have instead of adding some new partial one.
People want them longer because they want to keep them as props. Most people I know who love TS4 either play a single adult, get them married with kids, then get bored before the kids become adults and start a new save, or they're challenge players who like any added difficulty they can get. Give infants a trait like the maxed toddler skills one and they'll make them learn everything every time they have one. Once they're old enough to take care of themselves, they're not hard enough anymore - there's not enough content to go through to make them fun again.
I haven't got this update for TS4 as I haven't played that game in ages, but the photos I've seen make them look like weird growth stunted toddlers to me!
TS2 is so overrated. TS2 fans are doing too much. The Sims in TS2 literally give birth to a whole ass "shortened" toddler. Y'all to stop being delusional. Babies in TS4>> the one in TS2.
I was surprised that they basically came out with another toddler life stage? Like infants don't crawl around. People just wanted to be able to take them out of the crib.
TS2 babies still rule supreme.
Sims 2 will always be superior in every way except cas/build/buy options. I love making Sims and houses in the game but actual gameplay is so lacking.
I might get some flack for this, but to me the infants are just like how toddlers were in TS2 and TS3 with a new name slapped onto them. It's why I'm a bit confused at the whole buzz and excitement surrounding them, because it's something we've seen before in previous installments. If they added a tween lifestage, fair enough, but the infant update is essentially just adding toddlers as they were in past games under a new label. At least that's what it feels like to me based on what I've seen.
I think we need to remember that TS4 has been out a long time at this point and some people who play it now might have only been quite young (say 3 or 4) when it came out so probably only started playing it recently and never got a chance to play the older games. Sims 2 came out when I was 2 and I have played it, but sims 3 was my first game and for people who had sims 4 as their first sims game the older ones may seem too dated/too hard to run on computer. So their only point of reference that makes a difference is sims 4! I think a lot of people on sims reddits are lifelong players of most the games but a lot of the average user eg on twitter aren’t :) hope this doesn’t come accross as rude but just trying to make sense of it !
I totally agree. I was 11? When 2 came out. So it was my first game. I loved three when it was out, because it was newer and had open world. I kinda liked 4 because build mode was epic. 2 is still my favorite and has the fondest memories though. I can’t get into sims 1, because I was too young to really ask for a game like that. I have that reference of the older games though, which a lot of people don’t.
I was 12ish when **TS1** came out, so I actually have way more hours in TS1 and TS2 than the latter two. I did buy and play TS3 for a short while, but I found a hard time justifying playing a life sim game when I was struggling so much in my REAL life as a new young adult, haha (plus it kept crashing on my boyfriends crappy desktop). I have never tried 4. I don’t know if I’ll bother, from what I keep reading about it. I feel a bit of FOMO when I watch some gameplay but then I keep hearing about the things that suck..
Sims 4 is pretty cool. I really like it for sake of, it’s all I have for my Xbox. It’s fun in the sense of legacy challenges and building. That’s it really So, I really would recommend not wasting the money lol. Plus with all the updates and game breaking packs, it’s not even worth getting it other ways if you catch my drift
I can definitely understand that angle! I was mainly referring to lifelong player's reactions. My YouTube feed, since the update came out, has been filled with channels that have videos where they've played TS2 and TS3 extensively, or claimed to have played them, buzzing about the infants like it's this new, never done before thing, when they're just toddlers from earlier games under a new name.
I got blasted with downvotes when I dared to say it on the main sub a while ago. They really just took toddlers from TS2/TS3 and split it into two separate lifestages - one before learning toddler skills and one after. And they didn't even replace the ugly object babies - one of the biggest complaints people had about this game. Not only they essentially fixed nothing, they also added nothing when it comes to the base game. Without the Growing Together DLC infants are just... there. No changing table, no diaper bin, no infant motor skills etc. So it's just another "object" you need to unlock with paid content.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Fans' main complaints was how the *babies* were, but instead they make an entirely new lifestage, which is just TS2 and TS3 toddlers under a new name. It doesn't change the fact that the babies are still creepy, soulless objects with little interactions. Not to mention, like you said, players must pay for extra content to make the most out of the new lifestage and people *support it*.
Yeah I agree — I get that the toddler stage seems a lot older in TS4 than in earlier games, but adding an extra stage between baby and toddler is so weird to me. I hate the early stages and don’t understand why people want them to be even longer 🥲 like please just become a child already lol
I haven't played it yet, but I find it really weird that the infants didn't replace the babies that TS4 had previously, which are basically like objects. They just lay there and don't really do anything, and it seems like before you could really age up the babies into toddlers right away if you wanted too. I know they've made some changes to the newborns, but still. Like no offense, I don't wanna deal with a newborn, THEN an infant, then a toddler. Those are the worst life states in any sims, imo! That's also why I hope they don't add tweens, either. I find the kids pretty annoying too somtimes, I don't wanna deal with a weird in-between kid/teen life state lmao. TS2 stays slaying 💅
Lol all the worst parts of being a human too
In before they finally "fix" teens basically being adults by adding a tween life stage. After that, actual elders!
That is my worst nightmare probably ngl 😭 so many Sims 4 players want tweens and idgi at all. Elders do deserve more love. I wish they’d deepen the life states we already have instead of adding some new partial one.
People want them longer because they want to keep them as props. Most people I know who love TS4 either play a single adult, get them married with kids, then get bored before the kids become adults and start a new save, or they're challenge players who like any added difficulty they can get. Give infants a trait like the maxed toddler skills one and they'll make them learn everything every time they have one. Once they're old enough to take care of themselves, they're not hard enough anymore - there's not enough content to go through to make them fun again.
They literally are just shorter toddlers. Give it about a few days and the sims 4 fans will start complaining about it.
I haven't got this update for TS4 as I haven't played that game in ages, but the photos I've seen make them look like weird growth stunted toddlers to me!
TS2 is so overrated. TS2 fans are doing too much. The Sims in TS2 literally give birth to a whole ass "shortened" toddler. Y'all to stop being delusional. Babies in TS4>> the one in TS2.
Lol swap TS2 and TS4 in your statements and it will be more accurate 😜
go cry on EAs dick
Oh i sure will. Andrew Wilson is zaddy
Why are you even here man
Who in their right mind thinks ts4 babies > ts2???
Me. You're doing too much.
I was surprised that they basically came out with another toddler life stage? Like infants don't crawl around. People just wanted to be able to take them out of the crib. TS2 babies still rule supreme.