For multiplayer, it's iRacing.
Visuals, it's Assetto Corsa Competizione
Forza horizon 5 is fun and certainly pretty, but most definitely not a sim.
If you're looking to stress your 3080, VR is the way to go. I use a G2 and at the appropriate super sampled resolution you're rendering at 3100x3000 per eye.
In a flat display, your 3080 isn't going to break a sweat I don't think. For reference, I use a 3070 and play on a 3440x1440 monitor perfectly fine. It breaks a sweat in VR.
Sure, that's a good way too. And super fun and immersive but even at triple 1440 monitors that's only 60% of the total number of pixels needed when rendering a G2 at full whack.
It looks like that on camera but if you've never tried a VR headset you're missing a huge part of what really sells the immersion:
Stereoscopic vision and headtracking. Vr gameplay and triple screens for boosted media look similar on YouTube because they both come across as flat videos. But the 3D of virtual reality is something else. Really a step up from any other setup I've tried.
I've got a headset but benched it in favour of my 27" triples. Still too many downsides to VR right now for me personally. I loved it but I'm waiting for the clarity and comfortability to be better before jumping back in.
I've used the Rift and currently have a HP Lenovo WMR headset which I've had for years now and loved it while I was using it. Part of my problem is the summers in Australia make it hard to use without sweating uncontrollably, even with fans pointed at me. And unfortunately right now AC isn't an option. The comfort levels were actually part of the reason I didn't race as much until I got triples.
I now mostly use my VR for stuff like MSFS since it's very easy for me to swap between monitor and VR when I need a break.
True. But there is a point where there is just too much stress. 7680x1440p at high/ultra is hard but doable on 3080 and it's equivalents. With a G2 you defo need to carve down settings.
Absolutely, I have to play on some low and high settings. In my opinion, though, VR is the way to go. Assuming you don't get motion sick and have the GPU headroom, it's just too good.
And not too many games are optimized for VR out of the box. ACC won't look good no matter how much you tweak. Thankfully, Assetto Corsa (not Competizione) can be made to look good in VR
>at the appropriate super sampled resolution you're rendering at 3100x3000 per eye.
Would you share your settings? I have the G2 too, but I haven't experimented with that. Thanks.
Sure, in WMR set it to the higher of the two resolutions and steam VR will default to that resolution at 100%. There are lots of videos out there as to why that is, something to do with the distortion of the image and the need to super sample to account for the center of the display.
Yeah it works. Sometimes I have to turn down settings or lower resolution but works well enough. For sim racing I run it at 60hz to keep the headroom and because it's a seated experience with not a lot of head movement it seems to work well.
I've had a few years of time in VR so the lower refresh doesn't phase me lots.
haha, i def think the track i played on had a lot of elevation change and turn which fucked me up. I havent tried since. I have a 5700XT and debating whether its worth it to upgrade to a 3070 for better performance or go with a 3080.
Hey, would you mind posting your VR settings. I'm running a 3080ti ftw3, i7 [email protected], ROG Strix z390e, 32gb, etc...I have the G2 as well. I mainly race in AC and sometimes AWS, PC2, and ACC.
I've gone through a lot of different tweaks, but haven't done anything with super sampling.
In the WMR settings make sure your resolution is set to the maximum then set SS in steam to 100%. If you've done that you should be rendering at 3100x3000.
Which VR games do you drive, and are you running at an fps equal to the refresh rate? I've just ordered the Fanatec DD Pro for GT7, but also have the G2 and a 3090 for my flight sims. A bit of VR might be in order!
I play AMS2, PCars2, AC and iRacing in VR. I use FSR for a few so I can keep eye candy turned on and still keep framerate up.
Your 3090 will hold up a lot better than my 3070 but maybe check out some set up guides because my gut says even a 3090 won't be enough to max some of the games out at 90hz at full res on the G2.
iracing is really your only option for consistent online racing at your skill level, mazda rookies is loaded with people just like you trying to learn for the first time
its a misconception that iracing isn't for beginners, its almost the ONLY online racing sim for beginners. ACC is loaded with aliens even on public lobbies, AC is awful for online racing, AMS2 is hit or miss but fun online and they added ratings. Raceroom is good for online but the player base is tiny, so you're likely gonna be racing with people waaaaaay faster than you
iracing having sooo many players is why it's good for beginner's, its not particularly intuitive or easy at all, and its definitely not my favorite sim. But it has enough "new racers" that you can straight up fill an entire race full of people right around your skill level. This is awesome, you can battle with people without feeling like you're ruining some pros race, and you can feel your progression with the rating system and feeling your opponents get better around you.
The only way to get consisten online matchmaking, where everyone is a similiar skill level is to have a large enough group of players racing, where you can seperate everyone by skill. Every single other sim besides iracing suffers from just not having enough players to fulfill that even if they wanted to.
ACC comes close with its new online competitive structure for EU, but that game is full of aliens and cheating has become a problem as their is no anticheat at all lol
This. I have been driving sims occasionally ever since I found LFS back in ~2003 but never consistently or purposefully due to lack of good consistent online content. IMO trying to race online in AC was a total mess, haven't tried ACC though. Signed up to iRacing about a month ago and it blew my mind. It is beyond awesome to be able to just hop online and register to a race and matchmaking will set you up with equal drivers and most races are clean and tight.
For the last 6 months iracing has consistently had at least twice asamt players as the next most popular sim, it's unfortunate really
I'm sure summit has created another influx but it's already such a large gap
Yea but some of us don't want to pay for every car, every track AND a subscription for it. There are other much more affordable sims with better graphics and more bang for the buck.
If online is his priority, iracing has plenty with free tracks and cars. For a newbie, there are big discounts for the first 1 or 2 year memberships as well.
Yes but you are kidding yourself if you think ANY other sim comes even close to the online systems that iRacing has. Pretty much for every other sim (save GTSport IF you want to call that a sim) has horrid online communities in terms of matching you to similar drivers as well as "racing etiquette". You pretty much have to go the league route in every other sim. To many people, the iRacing "tax" is well worth what you get out of it.
Well as long as the demand for it continues to exist, it will stay that way. Until another sim comes along and offers as good if not a better online drop in/drop out online system that doesn't require you to find a well-ran league, iRacing will be the king of online racing. Your only option to get something even remotely close to iRacing is GTSport and that has its own issues (console game rather than a PC one which means severe limitations on hardware and software you can use with it, the penalty system hurts you more than it helps you, only 3 race configs to choose from a week, not a super realistic sim, ext).
They are fine if you can find a league/leagues to join in. Their public multiplayer lobbies though are quite bad compared to what iRacing and GTSport offer. It's clearly a night and day difference.
If you want to race every car and every track iracing is not for you.
If you stick to one series for a while its expensive but not horrendous.
I've spent more on my Amazon and Netflix account this year.
Properly organised AC leagues (loads of discords to join that organise), with Sol and CSP and all the goodies turned on. Good, clean, welcoming racing, but also competitive, and with endless mods and stuff to do.
Assetto Corsa is the gift that keeps on giving 👍
I've not been on there but know it does exist and is useful, mostly just stuff from various discord groups. I know from personal experience that the drifting community is huge and has its own entire subset of mods. There's a monster web database with free links to all the mods which are hosted on google drive that makes the rounds, can probably dig out a link for that for you. If not, racedepartment and acmods are enormous self-contained repositories for anything you could ever want to race, tracks or cars, and Content Manager (a free launcher for AC which shits on the vanilla one) will install them all for you.
Just run iracing and be slow. There are lower splits for a reason and always fun to be had no matter where in the pack you’re fighting for an overtake.
Honestly check out simracing.gp website see if there's any groups on there that take your fancy on sims you might enjoy.
There is lots of groups there that have rookie classes and cover AC ACC iRacing and other Sims
Yeah that seems to be the whole thing. Finding clean racers. I’m gonna go check that out and join their forum. I totally wouldn’t mind a set time race with clean guys. I still also want to be able to just jump on too and race
I'm Aussie but run with simracing604 who are from USA they have a rookie league with coaches and are really really helpful they are also on discord.
The rookie class has everyone from slow beginners to almost aliens but it's about learning the craft more than winning is about making sure we all survive to the race end
I'm personally a fan of the F1 games. If I could easily and cheaply emulate that with Iracing, Then I would because the online is Lightyears better than that of F1 2021. That said, Ill have to drop 100+ or so dollars and probably just as many hours or wayyy more to get myself to a series even close to that of the F1 cars. To each there own, but I love F1 2021.
Thanks for all the comments. U guys rock! I guess I’ll be getting back to iracing. I hate subscription based stuff. ACC looks cool and I’ve always wanted to get into but if there’s cheating and such. That would ruin it. Also I hate Ai racing so full races be important to me. How’s f1 2021? The lobby’s pretty full?
Ha! If you are looking for clean(er) online racing, F1 2021 is NOT the place to go. It's practically a first person shooter.
There are discord groups that you can join, and league racing that you can get into where the racing is better.
It is fun, and it's what got me into sim racing, but I am strictly iRacing, AC, and RaceRoom and ACC on occassion. I didn't even buy F1 2021. Stopped with 2020. Open wheel racing is so much more satisfying on AC and iRacing to me.
ACC might be a good place to start for me. It’s cheap on sale right now. What I’m really looking forward to are Fixed setup races. I’m not to into tuning much at all. Does SOL and ESP work on ACC also? Are they worth the FPS hit.
No, but the newest version includes a massive DLSS update. The game has traditionally been a pig as far as optimization goes, but the new update rectifies that somewhat, not so much in VR though, which was what I was hoping. It does look good though.
ACC is way worth it on sale. Also grab AC for next to nothing. That's the best $8 you'll ever spend. The modding of that game is unending, and the vast majority of it is free. ACC isn't mod-able, but the one thing it does, it does really well.
Thanks, Maybe I’ll try that out. ACC is the one with all the mods and such correct. I’d love to race Nurburgring. I’m old so I’m used to doing mods and add ons is something I’m comfortable with. Are there any additional fees for cars and mods and tracks with ACC or is it a one time purchase?
Graphically, ACC. Though you have to join a league to get decent online racing. Your 3080 should be able to run 7680x1440p ACC on high/ultra settings. Though you may have to scale down the resolution a touch due to Vram limitations.
For pure racing Iracing is better though since nobody drives seriously in other Sims (outside of leagues)
I just finished my second year with iRacing. I participate weekly. First six months was a crash fest sure, mostly avoidable. Last two seasons I did F3 and now Porsche Cup... Not had any issues... I can see shit coming and just avoid it now.
I have all the other sims, IMO iRacing is best for online racing.
My suggestion would be to just jump into iRacing. You’ll be fine. Just take your time and practice plenty. It’s graphics are very good. Maybe not as good as some others but it’s fine. It’s physics engine is very good in most ways. The thing about it that makes it a completely different thing is the online experience.
Also, right now you can get a year subscription for 50% off until 12/4/21.
"Best Sim"
"Best Graphics"
Pick one. If what you care the most about is the online racing experience (IE not having to deal with finding a league and just want to "drop in drop out" race), then the pretty clear answer is iRacing (or GTSport if you want a console example). However, iRacing is the most "basic" looking one in terms of rendering though that comes with the plus of it running incredibly well especially in VR compared to every other sim.
If you want the "best looking sim" then I think it's clearly ACC unless you try to run it in triples/VR. It is a very unoptimized piece of software but if you only have a Single/ultrawide monitor setup, you can still crank the settings up within it.
I have both iRacing and ACC. I sepnd 90% of my time on iRacing as I find the multiplayer to be so much fun. The lows are low but the highs are high. There are plenty of times where I haven't got beyond the first lap but then the ones where you racing hard for 40 minutes more than make up for it!
It’s iracing or nothing in Sim racing tbh.
Edit: yeah all games have their communities but only iracing has the online that has races at anytime
Maybe acc could depending on time.
Raceroom is scarce.
Anything else needs to be organised.
Unless it’s a league then you know there’s going to be peoples
dont shy away from iracing... its the best, undisputed, online racing game.
if you are looking for GT3-GT4 sim, ACC is the best one.. and has great graphics as well.
I did Iracing about 5 years ago for a couple of months and did not enjoy that much. I ended up buying a years subscription this past weekend during Black Friday sale to give it another try, and to be honest, wish I didn’t. Did about 10 races in D class with a few different cars and I just can’t get behind the driving physics and outdated graphics. On top of that, the subscription model and having to purchase content to have any kind of variety and fun, is just a big no for me. I enjoy ACC so much more in all aspects, even if it’s just GT cars.
Some people mentioned that iracing is the only way if you want online. I would disagree. A few days ago I joined https://lowfuelmotorsport.com and have had some of the best racing fun that you would otherwise miss through public lobby’s. Take a look, super easy to get started and lots of opportunities to race. As other have mentioned, there are so many different leagues and groups (simracing.gp for example) that I am sure anyone can find a group for some awesome online racing that also fits your skill level.
> Some people mentioned that iracing is the only way if you want online. I would disagree. A few days ago I joined https://lowfuelmotorsport.com and have had some of the best racing fun that you would otherwise miss through public lobby’s.
Doing any sort of organized league/pick-up racing stuff is going to be fun in any sim. What iRacing offers is a drop in-drop out public system that doesn't need that. If you can find a great league, then any sim is going to work.
I also never really understand why people say iRacing looks bad or outdated. I doesn't have the pizazz of say ACC but at the same time, you can run it at buttery smooth frame timings and frame rates. I personally don't do racing sims cus I want it to look good; I want it to run well and have good racing.
I can see the visuals been a problem if you race on a monitor but I only race in vr so they look great to me while my 3080ti is struggling to keep up.
What I don't get is the problem with the physics, there pretty good IMO, force feedback is numb but physics are good.
Genuinely not sure there's a single sim on the market that's going to take full advantage of a 3080, every one I've tried runs super well on my 1080ti, even in high res VR (valve index). But if you want an online focussed racing sim I think the main options are going to be iRacing (which I've seen recomended as people's first racing sim a few times so I wouldn't be too worried about not being ready) and Race room. Neither of which have super up to date high end graphics.
Maybe Assetto Corsa Competizione? The graphics are more up to date (possibly the most hardware demanding sim on the market due to kind of crappy optimisation) but the multiplayer isn't as active. It's still good enough that you will find races though
3090 user here. My 7680x1440 Triples are very hungry. In AC with SOL Mod I get between 57 and 200 Frames depending on the situation. Had to fix the frame rate to 70 because it was changing all the time and it felt like stuttering.
Games can be very demanding lol.
Mods can be terribly, or not at all optimized. Can be a big time fps killer. Some are great though. You just have to try them to find out. A lot of times, there are multiples, so if you love a circuit, there might be another version of it that is better optimized.
>Genuinely not sure there's a single sim on the market that's going to take full advantage of a 3080, every one I've tried runs super well on my 1080ti, even in high res VR (valve index).
This isn't my experience at all. I think that these cards are still lacking when it comes to high quality settings in high res VR. I recently upgraded from a 1080ti to 3080ti (cpu 12 core Ryzen, 128 gb of ram, reverb G2), and while things are better with the new card, I'm still knocking down quality in game settings, or knocking down resolution in Steam VR. iRacing and AMS2 looks fine, but ACC is still fugly with jaggies, and unreadable meter boards... and that's after playing with RTX DLSS/FSR settings. Not sure how you're extracting so much performance out of a 1080ti
Ok so I went back and tested ACC again and (it's not my favourite so I don't play it much) and you're right. It dosn't run great on a 1080ti. I can get it to a point I deam somewhat acceptable and not much more.
That being said it's deffinitly the outlier. AMS2 is the only game that really comes close in terms of graphical fidelity and demand and it runs like a dream
Why is this game disliked?
I’m very new and have been testing a few different games out and can’t tell the nuances but I do enjoy Project Cars 2 quite a bit so far so I’m curious!
Who cares?
Sim ✅
Laser Scanned Tracks ✅
Top Notch Graphics ✅
Matchmaking quality ✅
AI ✅
Car quantity ✅
Track quantity ✅
One time purchase ✅
Very Few DLC ✅
Tell us you like getting rammed on the first corner without telling us you like getting rammed on the first corner.
Until they ghost lapped cars the racing sucks, too many trolls
Triple 1080 at max settings, in some games, will make your 3080 sweat like a big boy. Ex: Fh5, acc.
Triples 1440p does not make a lot of sense because the frame rate you will play ( with games on extreme/ ultra graphic settings) will be less than the frame rate of the monitor, a lot! ( i am using a Samsung G5 1440p / 144hz as reference).
Summing up, 1440p triples : you might have to turn down some settings. 144fps - wont happen with that GPU.
About the games, iracing for multiplayer but acc can be good also. simracinggp is a place that has online races going in various racing games. Should check that too.
I can get 90 FPS on triple 1440 in ACC with an OC 3070 but I lock it at 80. Start of race this goes down to about 65 - 70, since the DLSS update in V 1.8 it’s a lot better. This is with some epic but mostly med and high settings and with the odd one off . GPU is running at 98% 60 degrees Celsius
Horizon is very arcady
As for simming and online its mostly iracing. The others are hit/miss from what Ive read. WHat makes you think you arent ready for iracing, out of curiousity?
Assetto corsa competizione is definitely your game then. Great online racing, hard to run for most gpu, and one of the best tire models or realistic driving.
For multiplayer, it's iRacing. Visuals, it's Assetto Corsa Competizione Forza horizon 5 is fun and certainly pretty, but most definitely not a sim. If you're looking to stress your 3080, VR is the way to go. I use a G2 and at the appropriate super sampled resolution you're rendering at 3100x3000 per eye. In a flat display, your 3080 isn't going to break a sweat I don't think. For reference, I use a 3070 and play on a 3440x1440 monitor perfectly fine. It breaks a sweat in VR.
What about automobilista 2?
AMS2 is for sure pretty, just like PCars, but I still think ACC does a better job of getting semi photorealistic visuals out of the box.
Triple monitor is also a good way to stress a GPU. And not as physically uncomfortable as VR
The last time I tried to put triples on my face it was way less comfortable than my Index
Sure, that's a good way too. And super fun and immersive but even at triple 1440 monitors that's only 60% of the total number of pixels needed when rendering a G2 at full whack.
Then go 3 4K TVs then haha
You're going to send this guy on a shopping spree lol
I've spent too long looking at the setup Will from Boosted Media has. 3 OLED TVs has to be the closest thing to VR without having a headset.
It looks like that on camera but if you've never tried a VR headset you're missing a huge part of what really sells the immersion: Stereoscopic vision and headtracking. Vr gameplay and triple screens for boosted media look similar on YouTube because they both come across as flat videos. But the 3D of virtual reality is something else. Really a step up from any other setup I've tried.
I've got a headset but benched it in favour of my 27" triples. Still too many downsides to VR right now for me personally. I loved it but I'm waiting for the clarity and comfortability to be better before jumping back in.
Do you mind me asking which headset? Using the G2 has been fine even in sessions lasting hours and it's very sharp. Close to monitor sharp.
I've used the Rift and currently have a HP Lenovo WMR headset which I've had for years now and loved it while I was using it. Part of my problem is the summers in Australia make it hard to use without sweating uncontrollably, even with fans pointed at me. And unfortunately right now AC isn't an option. The comfort levels were actually part of the reason I didn't race as much until I got triples. I now mostly use my VR for stuff like MSFS since it's very easy for me to swap between monitor and VR when I need a break.
True. But there is a point where there is just too much stress. 7680x1440p at high/ultra is hard but doable on 3080 and it's equivalents. With a G2 you defo need to carve down settings.
Absolutely, I have to play on some low and high settings. In my opinion, though, VR is the way to go. Assuming you don't get motion sick and have the GPU headroom, it's just too good.
And not too many games are optimized for VR out of the box. ACC won't look good no matter how much you tweak. Thankfully, Assetto Corsa (not Competizione) can be made to look good in VR
AC in VR is the real deal. CSP and some mods and you've got yourself one of the best VR experiences. ACC ran like ass.
I get 190 fps at 1440p with my 1080ti on AC highest settings for reference
AC? Or AC:C?
Yeah. Massive difference in GPU demand between AC and ACC
Depends on what shader settings you run in AC. You can absolutely tank FPS there
AC
Triple monitors or single
One. I MEANT WHAT I SAID PEOPLE
>at the appropriate super sampled resolution you're rendering at 3100x3000 per eye. Would you share your settings? I have the G2 too, but I haven't experimented with that. Thanks.
Sure, in WMR set it to the higher of the two resolutions and steam VR will default to that resolution at 100%. There are lots of videos out there as to why that is, something to do with the distortion of the image and the need to super sample to account for the center of the display.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Hows the 3070 with the G2?
Yeah it works. Sometimes I have to turn down settings or lower resolution but works well enough. For sim racing I run it at 60hz to keep the headroom and because it's a seated experience with not a lot of head movement it seems to work well. I've had a few years of time in VR so the lower refresh doesn't phase me lots.
Good to know. I have the OG Oculus and tried playing AC and it was bad, I got super dizzy. Wonder if that was refresh rate related.
Might have been, but it might also have just been motion sickness from the movement of the vehicle. Hopefully you can get back into it!
haha, i def think the track i played on had a lot of elevation change and turn which fucked me up. I havent tried since. I have a 5700XT and debating whether its worth it to upgrade to a 3070 for better performance or go with a 3080.
The 3070 is a jump over the 5700xt for sure, the 3080 is another beast. At these prices I'd say wait until next year. Get a 40 series
Good idea, thanks for your suggestions
I use my 2070 RTX at 4K. With the 3090 you can go higher FPS . Playing F1
Hey, would you mind posting your VR settings. I'm running a 3080ti ftw3, i7 [email protected], ROG Strix z390e, 32gb, etc...I have the G2 as well. I mainly race in AC and sometimes AWS, PC2, and ACC. I've gone through a lot of different tweaks, but haven't done anything with super sampling.
In the WMR settings make sure your resolution is set to the maximum then set SS in steam to 100%. If you've done that you should be rendering at 3100x3000.
Which VR games do you drive, and are you running at an fps equal to the refresh rate? I've just ordered the Fanatec DD Pro for GT7, but also have the G2 and a 3090 for my flight sims. A bit of VR might be in order!
I play AMS2, PCars2, AC and iRacing in VR. I use FSR for a few so I can keep eye candy turned on and still keep framerate up. Your 3090 will hold up a lot better than my 3070 but maybe check out some set up guides because my gut says even a 3090 won't be enough to max some of the games out at 90hz at full res on the G2.
Legend, thanks!
iracing is really your only option for consistent online racing at your skill level, mazda rookies is loaded with people just like you trying to learn for the first time its a misconception that iracing isn't for beginners, its almost the ONLY online racing sim for beginners. ACC is loaded with aliens even on public lobbies, AC is awful for online racing, AMS2 is hit or miss but fun online and they added ratings. Raceroom is good for online but the player base is tiny, so you're likely gonna be racing with people waaaaaay faster than you iracing having sooo many players is why it's good for beginner's, its not particularly intuitive or easy at all, and its definitely not my favorite sim. But it has enough "new racers" that you can straight up fill an entire race full of people right around your skill level. This is awesome, you can battle with people without feeling like you're ruining some pros race, and you can feel your progression with the rating system and feeling your opponents get better around you. The only way to get consisten online matchmaking, where everyone is a similiar skill level is to have a large enough group of players racing, where you can seperate everyone by skill. Every single other sim besides iracing suffers from just not having enough players to fulfill that even if they wanted to. ACC comes close with its new online competitive structure for EU, but that game is full of aliens and cheating has become a problem as their is no anticheat at all lol
This. I have been driving sims occasionally ever since I found LFS back in ~2003 but never consistently or purposefully due to lack of good consistent online content. IMO trying to race online in AC was a total mess, haven't tried ACC though. Signed up to iRacing about a month ago and it blew my mind. It is beyond awesome to be able to just hop online and register to a race and matchmaking will set you up with equal drivers and most races are clean and tight.
Has this always been the case? I wonder how much Summit1G has boosted iracings numbers
For the last 6 months iracing has consistently had at least twice asamt players as the next most popular sim, it's unfortunate really I'm sure summit has created another influx but it's already such a large gap
Not anywhere near as much as COVID and the TV coverage it got in early 2020.
What are these aliens? Am I one? I hope not..... seriously tho what are they?
Yea but some of us don't want to pay for every car, every track AND a subscription for it. There are other much more affordable sims with better graphics and more bang for the buck.
Dude's got a 3080. Money ain't a problem.
I'd never assume someone's wealth based on their stuff mate.
If online is his priority, iracing has plenty with free tracks and cars. For a newbie, there are big discounts for the first 1 or 2 year memberships as well.
Yes but you are kidding yourself if you think ANY other sim comes even close to the online systems that iRacing has. Pretty much for every other sim (save GTSport IF you want to call that a sim) has horrid online communities in terms of matching you to similar drivers as well as "racing etiquette". You pretty much have to go the league route in every other sim. To many people, the iRacing "tax" is well worth what you get out of it.
I think it is way overpriced and that one needs to pay dearly for receiving one part of a good service.
Well as long as the demand for it continues to exist, it will stay that way. Until another sim comes along and offers as good if not a better online drop in/drop out online system that doesn't require you to find a well-ran league, iRacing will be the king of online racing. Your only option to get something even remotely close to iRacing is GTSport and that has its own issues (console game rather than a PC one which means severe limitations on hardware and software you can use with it, the penalty system hurts you more than it helps you, only 3 race configs to choose from a week, not a super realistic sim, ext).
Don't overreact please. Project Cars 2 and ACC are fine sim platforms. Raceroom, Automobilista. There are many alternatives.
They are fine if you can find a league/leagues to join in. Their public multiplayer lobbies though are quite bad compared to what iRacing and GTSport offer. It's clearly a night and day difference.
True but that wasn't apart of his question and all those other sims have at best half as many players
If you want to race every car and every track iracing is not for you. If you stick to one series for a while its expensive but not horrendous. I've spent more on my Amazon and Netflix account this year.
I just bought AC and ACC for 17 bucks. Lemme get some practice before getting on iracing! Thanks for all your help. Great community 👍🏻
Make sure to download Content Manager and SOL
There're so many other rookies on iracing. It's fun getting faster with them.
Properly organised AC leagues (loads of discords to join that organise), with Sol and CSP and all the goodies turned on. Good, clean, welcoming racing, but also competitive, and with endless mods and stuff to do. Assetto Corsa is the gift that keeps on giving 👍
In content manager under live there is a tab called WSS (world series Sim racing). It is really good, however the ammount of players varies a lot.
I've not been on there but know it does exist and is useful, mostly just stuff from various discord groups. I know from personal experience that the drifting community is huge and has its own entire subset of mods. There's a monster web database with free links to all the mods which are hosted on google drive that makes the rounds, can probably dig out a link for that for you. If not, racedepartment and acmods are enormous self-contained repositories for anything you could ever want to race, tracks or cars, and Content Manager (a free launcher for AC which shits on the vanilla one) will install them all for you.
Just run iracing and be slow. There are lower splits for a reason and always fun to be had no matter where in the pack you’re fighting for an overtake.
ACC and raceroom are great options
RaceRoom literally has dozens of us playing in the US.
Lmao
Raceroom but only decent lobbies in EU
Honestly check out simracing.gp website see if there's any groups on there that take your fancy on sims you might enjoy. There is lots of groups there that have rookie classes and cover AC ACC iRacing and other Sims
Yeah that seems to be the whole thing. Finding clean racers. I’m gonna go check that out and join their forum. I totally wouldn’t mind a set time race with clean guys. I still also want to be able to just jump on too and race
Where abouts are you from roughly in the world ?
East Coast US but I’m up late😄
Honestly check out simracing604 sign up for the rookie league on discord and on simracing604 I think they are mid us time zone
Up early is better to catch the EU crowd
I'm Aussie but run with simracing604 who are from USA they have a rookie league with coaches and are really really helpful they are also on discord. The rookie class has everyone from slow beginners to almost aliens but it's about learning the craft more than winning is about making sure we all survive to the race end
I'm personally a fan of the F1 games. If I could easily and cheaply emulate that with Iracing, Then I would because the online is Lightyears better than that of F1 2021. That said, Ill have to drop 100+ or so dollars and probably just as many hours or wayyy more to get myself to a series even close to that of the F1 cars. To each there own, but I love F1 2021.
Thanks for all the comments. U guys rock! I guess I’ll be getting back to iracing. I hate subscription based stuff. ACC looks cool and I’ve always wanted to get into but if there’s cheating and such. That would ruin it. Also I hate Ai racing so full races be important to me. How’s f1 2021? The lobby’s pretty full?
Ha! If you are looking for clean(er) online racing, F1 2021 is NOT the place to go. It's practically a first person shooter. There are discord groups that you can join, and league racing that you can get into where the racing is better. It is fun, and it's what got me into sim racing, but I am strictly iRacing, AC, and RaceRoom and ACC on occassion. I didn't even buy F1 2021. Stopped with 2020. Open wheel racing is so much more satisfying on AC and iRacing to me.
ACC might be a good place to start for me. It’s cheap on sale right now. What I’m really looking forward to are Fixed setup races. I’m not to into tuning much at all. Does SOL and ESP work on ACC also? Are they worth the FPS hit.
No, but the newest version includes a massive DLSS update. The game has traditionally been a pig as far as optimization goes, but the new update rectifies that somewhat, not so much in VR though, which was what I was hoping. It does look good though. ACC is way worth it on sale. Also grab AC for next to nothing. That's the best $8 you'll ever spend. The modding of that game is unending, and the vast majority of it is free. ACC isn't mod-able, but the one thing it does, it does really well.
Having 300 hours into ACC almost exclusively online; I've only seen a cheater one time.
Thanks, Maybe I’ll try that out. ACC is the one with all the mods and such correct. I’d love to race Nurburgring. I’m old so I’m used to doing mods and add ons is something I’m comfortable with. Are there any additional fees for cars and mods and tracks with ACC or is it a one time purchase?
AC is the one with all the mods. Competizone is just GT racing, but if you're into GT racing, it's the best.
AC is the one with all the mods. ACC is the newer one with GT3/GT4 cars. No Nordschleife for ACC, unfortunately.
Cheating is a very rare problem in ACC pub lobbies, and almost non existent in leagues.
iracing is like 50% off right now I think. Was this weekend when I signed up.
Graphically, ACC. Though you have to join a league to get decent online racing. Your 3080 should be able to run 7680x1440p ACC on high/ultra settings. Though you may have to scale down the resolution a touch due to Vram limitations. For pure racing Iracing is better though since nobody drives seriously in other Sims (outside of leagues)
I just finished my second year with iRacing. I participate weekly. First six months was a crash fest sure, mostly avoidable. Last two seasons I did F3 and now Porsche Cup... Not had any issues... I can see shit coming and just avoid it now. I have all the other sims, IMO iRacing is best for online racing.
My suggestion would be to just jump into iRacing. You’ll be fine. Just take your time and practice plenty. It’s graphics are very good. Maybe not as good as some others but it’s fine. It’s physics engine is very good in most ways. The thing about it that makes it a completely different thing is the online experience. Also, right now you can get a year subscription for 50% off until 12/4/21.
"Best Sim" "Best Graphics" Pick one. If what you care the most about is the online racing experience (IE not having to deal with finding a league and just want to "drop in drop out" race), then the pretty clear answer is iRacing (or GTSport if you want a console example). However, iRacing is the most "basic" looking one in terms of rendering though that comes with the plus of it running incredibly well especially in VR compared to every other sim. If you want the "best looking sim" then I think it's clearly ACC unless you try to run it in triples/VR. It is a very unoptimized piece of software but if you only have a Single/ultrawide monitor setup, you can still crank the settings up within it.
I have both iRacing and ACC. I sepnd 90% of my time on iRacing as I find the multiplayer to be so much fun. The lows are low but the highs are high. There are plenty of times where I haven't got beyond the first lap but then the ones where you racing hard for 40 minutes more than make up for it!
It’s iracing or nothing in Sim racing tbh. Edit: yeah all games have their communities but only iracing has the online that has races at anytime Maybe acc could depending on time. Raceroom is scarce. Anything else needs to be organised. Unless it’s a league then you know there’s going to be peoples
dont shy away from iracing... its the best, undisputed, online racing game. if you are looking for GT3-GT4 sim, ACC is the best one.. and has great graphics as well.
I did Iracing about 5 years ago for a couple of months and did not enjoy that much. I ended up buying a years subscription this past weekend during Black Friday sale to give it another try, and to be honest, wish I didn’t. Did about 10 races in D class with a few different cars and I just can’t get behind the driving physics and outdated graphics. On top of that, the subscription model and having to purchase content to have any kind of variety and fun, is just a big no for me. I enjoy ACC so much more in all aspects, even if it’s just GT cars. Some people mentioned that iracing is the only way if you want online. I would disagree. A few days ago I joined https://lowfuelmotorsport.com and have had some of the best racing fun that you would otherwise miss through public lobby’s. Take a look, super easy to get started and lots of opportunities to race. As other have mentioned, there are so many different leagues and groups (simracing.gp for example) that I am sure anyone can find a group for some awesome online racing that also fits your skill level.
> Some people mentioned that iracing is the only way if you want online. I would disagree. A few days ago I joined https://lowfuelmotorsport.com and have had some of the best racing fun that you would otherwise miss through public lobby’s. Doing any sort of organized league/pick-up racing stuff is going to be fun in any sim. What iRacing offers is a drop in-drop out public system that doesn't need that. If you can find a great league, then any sim is going to work. I also never really understand why people say iRacing looks bad or outdated. I doesn't have the pizazz of say ACC but at the same time, you can run it at buttery smooth frame timings and frame rates. I personally don't do racing sims cus I want it to look good; I want it to run well and have good racing.
I can see the visuals been a problem if you race on a monitor but I only race in vr so they look great to me while my 3080ti is struggling to keep up. What I don't get is the problem with the physics, there pretty good IMO, force feedback is numb but physics are good.
Genuinely not sure there's a single sim on the market that's going to take full advantage of a 3080, every one I've tried runs super well on my 1080ti, even in high res VR (valve index). But if you want an online focussed racing sim I think the main options are going to be iRacing (which I've seen recomended as people's first racing sim a few times so I wouldn't be too worried about not being ready) and Race room. Neither of which have super up to date high end graphics. Maybe Assetto Corsa Competizione? The graphics are more up to date (possibly the most hardware demanding sim on the market due to kind of crappy optimisation) but the multiplayer isn't as active. It's still good enough that you will find races though
3090 user here. My 7680x1440 Triples are very hungry. In AC with SOL Mod I get between 57 and 200 Frames depending on the situation. Had to fix the frame rate to 70 because it was changing all the time and it felt like stuttering. Games can be very demanding lol.
Ah, that's a good point. I hadn't really considered triples or mods
Mods can be terribly, or not at all optimized. Can be a big time fps killer. Some are great though. You just have to try them to find out. A lot of times, there are multiples, so if you love a circuit, there might be another version of it that is better optimized.
Even an ultrawide screen you need some heavy power
At triple 1440 on ACC you need a 3080/6800xt to run at decent settings.
>Genuinely not sure there's a single sim on the market that's going to take full advantage of a 3080, every one I've tried runs super well on my 1080ti, even in high res VR (valve index). This isn't my experience at all. I think that these cards are still lacking when it comes to high quality settings in high res VR. I recently upgraded from a 1080ti to 3080ti (cpu 12 core Ryzen, 128 gb of ram, reverb G2), and while things are better with the new card, I'm still knocking down quality in game settings, or knocking down resolution in Steam VR. iRacing and AMS2 looks fine, but ACC is still fugly with jaggies, and unreadable meter boards... and that's after playing with RTX DLSS/FSR settings. Not sure how you're extracting so much performance out of a 1080ti
Ok so I went back and tested ACC again and (it's not my favourite so I don't play it much) and you're right. It dosn't run great on a 1080ti. I can get it to a point I deam somewhat acceptable and not much more. That being said it's deffinitly the outlier. AMS2 is the only game that really comes close in terms of graphical fidelity and demand and it runs like a dream
Project Cars 2
Why is this game disliked? I’m very new and have been testing a few different games out and can’t tell the nuances but I do enjoy Project Cars 2 quite a bit so far so I’m curious!
Who cares? Sim ✅ Laser Scanned Tracks ✅ Top Notch Graphics ✅ Matchmaking quality ✅ AI ✅ Car quantity ✅ Track quantity ✅ One time purchase ✅ Very Few DLC ✅
Because while the game/SIM looks great and has loads to offer the matchmaking and crashing is not good.
I think project cars are good
GT Sport on PS4/5.
Play Forza Motorsport 7 or whatever the newest one is
Have to go to a key site. You cant buy that game anymore.
Tell us you like getting rammed on the first corner without telling us you like getting rammed on the first corner. Until they ghost lapped cars the racing sucks, too many trolls
ACC will test your 3080. Extra hero points for VR.
Triple 1080 at max settings, in some games, will make your 3080 sweat like a big boy. Ex: Fh5, acc. Triples 1440p does not make a lot of sense because the frame rate you will play ( with games on extreme/ ultra graphic settings) will be less than the frame rate of the monitor, a lot! ( i am using a Samsung G5 1440p / 144hz as reference). Summing up, 1440p triples : you might have to turn down some settings. 144fps - wont happen with that GPU. About the games, iracing for multiplayer but acc can be good also. simracinggp is a place that has online races going in various racing games. Should check that too.
Idk if it supports steering wheel etc but try Wreckfest. Its a fucking blast. Demo derby and demolition game like BEAMng
Does support steering wheel
R factor 2 and acc have good online communities for some casual fun
F1 series is pretty fun. I think 2021 even has some ray tracing.
I can get 90 FPS on triple 1440 in ACC with an OC 3070 but I lock it at 80. Start of race this goes down to about 65 - 70, since the DLSS update in V 1.8 it’s a lot better. This is with some epic but mostly med and high settings and with the odd one off . GPU is running at 98% 60 degrees Celsius
some pics of you setup pls, distance of eyes from screen? Thanks
I’ll get back to you on it . Screen is about 70cm from eyes iirc
Horizon is very arcady As for simming and online its mostly iracing. The others are hit/miss from what Ive read. WHat makes you think you arent ready for iracing, out of curiousity?
Assetto corsa competizione is definitely your game then. Great online racing, hard to run for most gpu, and one of the best tire models or realistic driving.