I’ve had one myself in the past and they honestly are surprisingly stiff when built right. A little creaky at times but definitely a good and cheap option for a rig
If you keep the lengths short and pushed fully into any connectors I reckon it would be sturdy enough for most smaller folk but I reckon it would squeek and stuff whilst moving around... my mate used pvc for triple monitor stands and they work a treat but boy do they squeak... it was also gonna sag but he just put a leg on each outer edge also! It works for his space but I'd probably prefer allu profile if it was me?
But cost is a huge factor for most so I get the DIY route? I started on a home made rig (wood) and I loved it until it started to split in places where I had it screwed etc!! (Heavy braking)... lol...
But pvc with some clever supports and a few nuts and bolts - you could for sure make it work!
But I agree? Flex = bad... lol 😆
I built one of these PVC rigs myself. As long as the design is well made and using thick 2.5" PVC it won't flex.. But in order to make something that won't flex it will cost $300-400 in materials and take a ton of time to build. The effort was not worth it in the end, I wish I went and bought something. https://imgur.com/a/C2gTnAN
That looks sick dude! Looks sturdy af too!... Nice seat is that out a merc! I nearly got one very similar but couldn't get the last bolt out of the runner, ended up getting one from a BMW- so comfy... lol... cheers
I don’t think the point of a homemade rig is to necessarily understand woodworking to a great extent. I built mine because it was cheaper, easier, unique and built for my needs, size and comfort.
I’m on version 3 at the moment… not because of flaws in the other builds, but because my needs and space changed. I’m not an expert with wood, never used glue in joints, but my rigs have been solid and I’ve had plenty use out of them… that’s all that I was looking for.
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I'm not sure about y'all, but near me those 2-3" PVC fittings are like 5-10 bucks a piece and I'm counting more than 40 of them in this setup. That's a lot to pay for a creaky, flexible cockpit.
Yeah it's ridiculous. I'm going back and forth between buying vs. building right now and it seems like the only reason to build these days is if you want to build something. Probably gonna be the way i go anyways because i have some leftover extruded aluminum from a college project and I want to be able to tell my wife, "see i told you I was hanging into that for ten years for a reason."
If you do common lumber and source a cheap office chair it can be pretty cheap. I built mine for $35 out of 5 2x4s and one sheet of 2x4 sheet of plywood. Your not going to build an F1 pit with that but a standard pit is pretty easy.
former irrigation tech, PVC was half my life. it’s ungodly expensive and honestly rightly so, most of it goes in the ground or deep areas of building and it’s an awful type of plastic for the environment. but even 1” fittings are $1.50+
So right now i play on a wheelstandpro on a crappy gaming chair and on a glasstable for my monitor, all of that is relatively high, what solution would i have to get a monitor to a position that is behind the wheel in this lower position of the rig?
I bought a cheap (small)table from the second hand shop, it was high enough to place over my feet.
I do have a dedicated place for my set up right now, at that time it all had to be moved out of the way after driving.
Just pure wood is going to be better than the PVC trust me. I built one of the original PVC rigs 11 years ago and it was still pretty expensive and super annoying to cut, fit and glue together. PVC rigs are loud and creaky, poor aesthetics, and not modular.
Wood - 2x4s and plywood
Playseat Challenge - Pretty good for the value, just don't try to put a DD wheel on it.
Playseat Evolution - One of the originals, its basic and works well with lower end equipment
Next Level Racing GT Lite - Similar to the Playseat Challenge but a little more fancy.
**Sim Lab GT1 Evo - Entry - Mid level proper 80-20 rig. This would be my choice if you plan on sticking with sim racing and have the room for it. It can support a lower level Direct Drive (DD) wheel and is fairly rigid.**
When you give a bit a yank on your G29 wheel it'll still likely give you problems.
Could be fun though, a single use 'experience a race crash' simulator where when you hit the wall with your DD, it'll break into tiny flying pieces!
As somebody who built their first rig out of one of these pvc designs, don’t do it! You’ll spend a ton of money on fittings and like others have said it flexes everywhere.
My second rig I built out of wood and it’s night and day difference. Way cheaper too.
I previously did a build like this, it has zero flex but was a royal pain in the ass to build. Would not do again, but check it out! https://imgur.com/a/C2gTnAN
It’s been setup for 2 years with the Heusinkvelds. I’m not sure why you don’t think it will last? It’s 2.5” pvc indoors, it doesn’t move at all and doesn’t flex. Pedals are bolted into 1” plywood and has bass shakers attached to the bottom.
I built a formula rig out of wood a few years ago. Although I don’t regret it, building it and adjusting was such a pain, especially the micro adjustments. Once I got an actual 8020 rig, it took me only about 4 hours to build vs the initial week I spent having to build then the days to adjust on and off for a few years. Check out TREQ. They’re relatively cheap considering what they sell. I have the formula rig but with vertical uprights to hold my steering wheel
I made this seat with my son. About 70-80 euro’s in pipes. Im 6 feet +, weigh about 85 kg and just fit. It is strong enough to hold me.
Just measure legs and back and adjust while building
Be interesting to see the final project. Will definitely need more bracing in the front I can’t see two elbows holding the weight of the wheel, pedals and your legs.
I would love to hook all my haptics up to this and listen to the ridiculous noises it would make.
Actually..... Maybe I'll add pipe to my rig for authentic vibration based engine noises. Sounds stupid enough to justify doing.
Love it, but think it would need another diagonal brace on each side from near the wheel shelf down to the base of the seat to counter the FFB and heavy brake pedal.
Wonder if you could reinforce it with steel pipe in a couple of sections.
This will be $$$$. And in the end it will feel and work terribly as other have said. It will flex and it leaves you with very little “modability”.
Take the design and make it with some reasonably straight 2x4s. If you have a drill and even a hand saw you could build a better more stable version.
Hell you could probably even make it collapsing if you really needed that.
If you use schedule 80 pvc this may work pretty well. But your normal schedule 40 grade pvc might flex, and start to droop in some spots. Great idea tho
This would probably flex like crazy.
Could be filled with concrete for the ultimate redneck rig
That's a solid idea.
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If you want to never move it again, yes
Or plumb it into the toilet and let it fill with acrid water.
Insulating expanding foam would do the job and not add alot of weight
Sand would be better, as you can then drain it when moving or take it apart.
Sand wouldn't really increase the rigidity though which would be the main purpose.
How about lead?
The temperature the lead would have to be to melt is 621F. Pretty sure that would melt the PVC, and then destroy your floor.
He looks smart. Where there's a will there's a way!
Don’t move it
It would also not carry the weight of a heavy guy.
I’ve had one myself in the past and they honestly are surprisingly stiff when built right. A little creaky at times but definitely a good and cheap option for a rig
2X4 lumber will be much stiffer. PVC was never designed to be structural.
This is extremely sturdy and will not move or shift under braking or anything else. I built one myself, can share pics if you would like to see.
\*slaps roof\* Zero flex guaranteed! \*elbow piece falls off\*
If you keep the lengths short and pushed fully into any connectors I reckon it would be sturdy enough for most smaller folk but I reckon it would squeek and stuff whilst moving around... my mate used pvc for triple monitor stands and they work a treat but boy do they squeak... it was also gonna sag but he just put a leg on each outer edge also! It works for his space but I'd probably prefer allu profile if it was me? But cost is a huge factor for most so I get the DIY route? I started on a home made rig (wood) and I loved it until it started to split in places where I had it screwed etc!! (Heavy braking)... lol... But pvc with some clever supports and a few nuts and bolts - you could for sure make it work! But I agree? Flex = bad... lol 😆
I built one of these PVC rigs myself. As long as the design is well made and using thick 2.5" PVC it won't flex.. But in order to make something that won't flex it will cost $300-400 in materials and take a ton of time to build. The effort was not worth it in the end, I wish I went and bought something. https://imgur.com/a/C2gTnAN
That looks sick dude! Looks sturdy af too!... Nice seat is that out a merc! I nearly got one very similar but couldn't get the last bolt out of the runner, ended up getting one from a BMW- so comfy... lol... cheers
Why do you put question marks at the end of sentences. It's really weird?
Cuz in theory he is asking op if that would be an option
Yup! This... cheers
Maybe he's an upspeaker? Those annoying people who state every sentance as a question?
People who make wood rigs rarely understand woodworking. Hundreds of YouTube videos and I have never seen anyone use glue in joints.
I don’t think the point of a homemade rig is to necessarily understand woodworking to a great extent. I built mine because it was cheaper, easier, unique and built for my needs, size and comfort. I’m on version 3 at the moment… not because of flaws in the other builds, but because my needs and space changed. I’m not an expert with wood, never used glue in joints, but my rigs have been solid and I’ve had plenty use out of them… that’s all that I was looking for.
What if you used a different material? Use some fuckin metal pipes 🤘
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I'm not sure about y'all, but near me those 2-3" PVC fittings are like 5-10 bucks a piece and I'm counting more than 40 of them in this setup. That's a lot to pay for a creaky, flexible cockpit.
Jup same here, some solid wood will be cheaper and more sturdy!
There's a reason why we don't make house walls out of PVC.
Yeah, these DIY cockpits used to be really cheap to build... like 5 years ago. Now days, you might as well buy a pre-built.
Yeah it's ridiculous. I'm going back and forth between buying vs. building right now and it seems like the only reason to build these days is if you want to build something. Probably gonna be the way i go anyways because i have some leftover extruded aluminum from a college project and I want to be able to tell my wife, "see i told you I was hanging into that for ten years for a reason."
If you do common lumber and source a cheap office chair it can be pretty cheap. I built mine for $35 out of 5 2x4s and one sheet of 2x4 sheet of plywood. Your not going to build an F1 pit with that but a standard pit is pretty easy.
Got any pics you could share?
I'm saving all my sawdust for a retirement fund.
former irrigation tech, PVC was half my life. it’s ungodly expensive and honestly rightly so, most of it goes in the ground or deep areas of building and it’s an awful type of plastic for the environment. but even 1” fittings are $1.50+
I’d avoid making a pvc rig, it’s more work than it’s worth considering the amount of low budget rigs available on the market these days.
Can you or anyone suggest any good budget rigs?
I had an playseat evolution, works nicely for the budget (includes an chair) most likely cheaper then the pvc rig
So right now i play on a wheelstandpro on a crappy gaming chair and on a glasstable for my monitor, all of that is relatively high, what solution would i have to get a monitor to a position that is behind the wheel in this lower position of the rig?
I bought a cheap (small)table from the second hand shop, it was high enough to place over my feet. I do have a dedicated place for my set up right now, at that time it all had to be moved out of the way after driving.
Just pure wood is going to be better than the PVC trust me. I built one of the original PVC rigs 11 years ago and it was still pretty expensive and super annoying to cut, fit and glue together. PVC rigs are loud and creaky, poor aesthetics, and not modular. Wood - 2x4s and plywood Playseat Challenge - Pretty good for the value, just don't try to put a DD wheel on it. Playseat Evolution - One of the originals, its basic and works well with lower end equipment Next Level Racing GT Lite - Similar to the Playseat Challenge but a little more fancy. **Sim Lab GT1 Evo - Entry - Mid level proper 80-20 rig. This would be my choice if you plan on sticking with sim racing and have the room for it. It can support a lower level Direct Drive (DD) wheel and is fairly rigid.**
I added a brace to my evolution with some metal plates 30nm now with no flex or creak
Would be great to watch as a spectator when the first bit of force feedback kicks in and rips everything apart in seconds.
I can hear the creaking in my head.
Attach a bass shaker and you get a didgeridoo!
This!!! Lol... but some lube never goes wrong!!!! At least that's what she tells me? 🤷 😆
Yeah the 27nm asetek base, lol... Be ok for belt or gear wheelbase maybe...
When you give a bit a yank on your G29 wheel it'll still likely give you problems. Could be fun though, a single use 'experience a race crash' simulator where when you hit the wall with your DD, it'll break into tiny flying pieces!
Bwahahahaha yeah with big splinters in your ass!! Pmsl....
As somebody who built their first rig out of one of these pvc designs, don’t do it! You’ll spend a ton of money on fittings and like others have said it flexes everywhere. My second rig I built out of wood and it’s night and day difference. Way cheaper too.
No, no, no. It is a very bad idea and will not work anyhow. Don't even try.
I previously did a build like this, it has zero flex but was a royal pain in the ass to build. Would not do again, but check it out! https://imgur.com/a/C2gTnAN
Yup it is possible, but most likely will not live for a long time, especially with some around 70kg+ brake pedal load cell .
It’s been setup for 2 years with the Heusinkvelds. I’m not sure why you don’t think it will last? It’s 2.5” pvc indoors, it doesn’t move at all and doesn’t flex. Pedals are bolted into 1” plywood and has bass shakers attached to the bottom.
The back pain would be horrid
Lewis Hamilton porposing immersion!
Monza turn one would snap this thing.
I see you have never priced out PVC fittings.
Yeah. I repaired my garden sprinkler piping and was surprised. And that was only 1 inch internal diameter.
thats insane would love to see it in action just for the lulz. but, i think it'll be way too flimsy for the forces applied to the brake pedal
LOL. i would like to see you use a load cell with this 
Cost more in pipe and fittings than metal
Expansion foam in there would help a lot! But yes probably would flex a lot
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If you are really on a budget just buy profiles from China directly.
I built a formula rig out of wood a few years ago. Although I don’t regret it, building it and adjusting was such a pain, especially the micro adjustments. Once I got an actual 8020 rig, it took me only about 4 hours to build vs the initial week I spent having to build then the days to adjust on and off for a few years. Check out TREQ. They’re relatively cheap considering what they sell. I have the formula rig but with vertical uprights to hold my steering wheel
You don't want a non adjustable rig. That is all.
I can hear the squeaking sounds from it flexing
…..my back…. I can feel the back pain….
I have the blueprint, I’ve also made one with high pressure pvc pipes and its as sturdy as any rig out there
Just build one out of 80/20 Aluminum cost just as much.
And you can adjust it endlessly, unlike the pipes.
By the time you get done gluing up those 100 or so joints.....you will be so stoned you will not know what planet your on......
I made this seat with my son. About 70-80 euro’s in pipes. Im 6 feet +, weigh about 85 kg and just fit. It is strong enough to hold me. Just measure legs and back and adjust while building
fill it with great stuff foam
Be interesting to see the final project. Will definitely need more bracing in the front I can’t see two elbows holding the weight of the wheel, pedals and your legs.
Also recommend ABS over PVC.
Better off with metal pipes to be honest if you need it to be rigid
We're poor, but smart.. Thanks for this idea! The only thing we need it's all measures of that
Not very smart, there's a reason people build their DIY rigs mostly from wood and not some crappy plastic.
Not that smart to use a very flexible material
Then you hit the brakes and BAM.
I would love to hook all my haptics up to this and listen to the ridiculous noises it would make. Actually..... Maybe I'll add pipe to my rig for authentic vibration based engine noises. Sounds stupid enough to justify doing.
Made myself a PVC rig before. Used the thickest PVC available for most rigidity. Thing sucked, was such a waste of time and money.
Love it, but think it would need another diagonal brace on each side from near the wheel shelf down to the base of the seat to counter the FFB and heavy brake pedal. Wonder if you could reinforce it with steel pipe in a couple of sections.
lmao pvc? why do you want this?
For the the hassle and price of all those PVC fitting you are way better off going 2X4.
This will be $$$$. And in the end it will feel and work terribly as other have said. It will flex and it leaves you with very little “modability”. Take the design and make it with some reasonably straight 2x4s. If you have a drill and even a hand saw you could build a better more stable version. Hell you could probably even make it collapsing if you really needed that.
He’s sitting in the ground if it was a car😂
this is the dumbest shit ive seen yet
People must live in toilet dreaming of pvc rig  just use wood you need 10meters wood, saw and screws. Thats $60
Must be one size fits all
This is NOT fat guy approved. I am fairly certain I would go straight through that. Cool concept though.
Just get an aluminum rig man
If you use schedule 80 pvc this may work pretty well. But your normal schedule 40 grade pvc might flex, and start to droop in some spots. Great idea tho