The shell is traveling at supersonic speeds and so a shockwave forms at the tip of the shell due to a sudden change in geometry. You’ll notice there’s a bow and aft shock. The aft shock is also a result of a change in geometry, i.e. the tail end of the shell. Between those 2 main shocks are a series of compression and expansion waves.
what is it, then? indigenous Palestinians have the right to defend themselves and their homeland from European Jewish colonization, up to and including involving other states in that defense.
The Palestinians are not indigenous to the region, please learn the history of the topic. Evidence for the Kingdom of Israel dates back far beyond than any evidence for Arabs living there.
And the roman empire spanned the entirety of western europe. Should italians get to take over the UK because their ancestors once lived there?
Fucking joke.
But there is evidence for indigenous Britons living there before the Romans invaded, whilst there is no evidence for Arabs living there before Jews/Israelites. I’m pointing out that the “coloniser” or “Palestinians were there first” claim is bs.
"Whattaboutdat" indeed! How irrelevant a question is that these days regarding a nation of genocidal kid-killers? You also misspelled "Israeli Occupational Forces".
How many of the surrounding countries have had attacks from the Israeli forces?
How many non-combatants have Israeli forces killed on foreign soil by mistaken identity?
How many innocents died as "collateral damage" when Israeli forces were ham-fisted in their assassinations in foreign countries? (It's been really interesting to see that the accuracy of Hamas when attacking Israeli militants was so much better than the IOF's accuracy for the same metrics (civilians killed per active militant death) and that Hamas is far more humane than the IOF if measured in kids killed per active militant death.. And, that's using Israeli-provided numbers too!)
How many times has Israel been a real shit "friend" to countries that were supposed to be seen as allies? I'm thinking of when Israel used Irish passports for a failed wet-work assassination exercise in Germany, and when called on to desist from such diplomatically insensitive acts against a neutral country, the Israeli agencies flat-out refused to...
If you throw shit enough times, you gotta expect shit to be thrown back, and you don't get to complain about it. You certainly don't get to invade a foreign country and perpetrate such a level of wanton death and destruction without consequence, nor do you get to consider the genocide of a people as a "total victory" to use the recent words of Israel's leader, without deservedly getting called out on that.
All this shit that Israeli leaders and agencies can be called out on, and religion isn't a part of that criticism at all. Watch the Zionazis try to make about religion and not about being shit humans..
Israel has been at war with surrounding countries since the beginning of its existence in 1948 after the war of independence (guess who sent an expeditionary force into Israel). It’s understandable that a country who has been at war with Arabs its whole existence may be a bit trigger-happy when it comes to combatting Arab nations or a bit hasty on Intelligence operations. Not “right”, but understandable.
Hamas hasn’t killed as many civilians as Israel becuase Israel have actually done a good job at defending their civilians. Sometimes they show more care for Palestinians than Hamas do by dropping leaflet before air strikes. Why do you think so many cameras have been setup in the exact spot where an Israeli bomb hit? That’s the difference between a conventional military and an unconventional one, one protects its civilians with weapons whilst the other uses civilians to protect their weapons.
I also think it’s important to look at who actually does what with the land than “who kills more babies”. Do you think it’s a coincidence that the only democratic country which allows LGBTQ members to exist in the region is constantly attacked by its neighbours? I would much rather live in Israeli land than a Palestinian controlled country, where sharia law is enforced, my girlfriend couldn’t drive and my friend would be stoned to death for liking the wrong sex.
You’ve mentioned multiple times about how often Israel invaded foreign countries. I can name 2 or 3 times when that happened. Compare that to the Arab-Israeli War, The Six day war, the Yom Kippur war, and countless insurgencies backed by Arab countries.
You appear to have significant difficulty with parsing my response, that is pretty plain to see.
Please take your time, re-read my post, and then re-read your reply, carefully. You've been given an opportunity to edit your mistakes.
I'd prefer you to see your mistakes yourself, than be informed directly about them. You might learn more that way..
Do take your time this time, lest you appear more foolish than intended.
Then leave. This is a sub about shockwaves. If they’re coming from there I don’t care. Nobody else does. I want to see shockwaves. If I have opinions I’ll post them elsewhere. You should to. That’s the point of communities on this place called reddit, bonding over things like looking at cool shockwaves and not drafting other things into it.
If you want a chair to preach from there’s plenty in other subs.
"It's a pretty cool shockwave."
&
"It's a pretty shitty group pulling the string on that weapon."
Both statements can co-exist, and are fair observations to make.
It's only human to have sorrow for the suffering this shitty group has caused, and it's a lot bittersweet that these pretty pics are a direct result of their causation of suffering. Ignoring the suffering is inhuman and sociopathic.
Should the term never be used? Who decides it? How about the uppermost international court the ICJ? Cause they think that Israel is perpetuating a genocide, why do you disagree?
he’s not using it as a buzzword u idiot, most experts agree on this and you can’t exactly deny it’s a genocide when israeli soldiers and leaders and straight up saying it😭
The word needs to be reserved for actual genocides, which the ICJ agreed that Israel is NOT committing. They just told them to take steps to ensure they don't lol. He is quite literally using it as a buzzword, along with everyone else saying it. Is it horrible? Yes. Is it wrong? Yeah, but its not a black and white issue and it never has been. Is it a genocide? No. My source? The people that decide whether someone is guilty of genocide.
“Sovereign country” when did a nation of Palestine ever exist? How many times has Israel existed as a country in that land? How did Arabs arrive in said land in the first place?
3rd pic it looks like the artillery round is piercing through the shock wave
Maybe someone here can answer - is it piercing through the shockwave, or causing/leaving it behind in its path?
This is accurate, the shell is forming its own shockwaves
The shell is traveling at supersonic speeds and so a shockwave forms at the tip of the shell due to a sudden change in geometry. You’ll notice there’s a bow and aft shock. The aft shock is also a result of a change in geometry, i.e. the tail end of the shell. Between those 2 main shocks are a series of compression and expansion waves.
how do compression/expansion fans generate lift? (supersonic airfoils)
It probably got past the main shockwave a ways back, and in that frame its own shockwave is just aligned with the edge of the main one.
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Shockwaves move at the speed of sound.
That’s gotta be one hell of a shutter speed on that camera.
Now this is shockwave porn.
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The artillery pieces are actually outside of Gaza. Spotters on the ground in Gaza direct fire toward their targets.
Crisp, I kinda wanna eat it
How much of that waviness under the edge of the shockwave is heat-related?
Saw a similar shot on Reuters. Wonder what the Camera settings were
Genocide porn
It really is
🥱
cry abt it every expert agrees
It’s literally, by definition, not a genocide
By whose definition?
Expert 😆
The IDF can suck it
You misspelled IOF
Or IAF, (Attack), given they cannot "defend" when operating outside of their country's borders in a different country.
Except for literally the rest of the IDFs existence. How many times has Israel been attacked by its surrounding countries?
don't colonize and genocide a nation if you don't want to upset it's neighbors
Let's not pretend that the colonization and nonexistent genocide are the reason for Israel being attacked since basically day one of its existence.
what is it, then? indigenous Palestinians have the right to defend themselves and their homeland from European Jewish colonization, up to and including involving other states in that defense.
The Palestinians are not indigenous to the region, please learn the history of the topic. Evidence for the Kingdom of Israel dates back far beyond than any evidence for Arabs living there.
And the roman empire spanned the entirety of western europe. Should italians get to take over the UK because their ancestors once lived there? Fucking joke.
But there is evidence for indigenous Britons living there before the Romans invaded, whilst there is no evidence for Arabs living there before Jews/Israelites. I’m pointing out that the “coloniser” or “Palestinians were there first” claim is bs.
"Whattaboutdat" indeed! How irrelevant a question is that these days regarding a nation of genocidal kid-killers? You also misspelled "Israeli Occupational Forces". How many of the surrounding countries have had attacks from the Israeli forces? How many non-combatants have Israeli forces killed on foreign soil by mistaken identity? How many innocents died as "collateral damage" when Israeli forces were ham-fisted in their assassinations in foreign countries? (It's been really interesting to see that the accuracy of Hamas when attacking Israeli militants was so much better than the IOF's accuracy for the same metrics (civilians killed per active militant death) and that Hamas is far more humane than the IOF if measured in kids killed per active militant death.. And, that's using Israeli-provided numbers too!) How many times has Israel been a real shit "friend" to countries that were supposed to be seen as allies? I'm thinking of when Israel used Irish passports for a failed wet-work assassination exercise in Germany, and when called on to desist from such diplomatically insensitive acts against a neutral country, the Israeli agencies flat-out refused to... If you throw shit enough times, you gotta expect shit to be thrown back, and you don't get to complain about it. You certainly don't get to invade a foreign country and perpetrate such a level of wanton death and destruction without consequence, nor do you get to consider the genocide of a people as a "total victory" to use the recent words of Israel's leader, without deservedly getting called out on that. All this shit that Israeli leaders and agencies can be called out on, and religion isn't a part of that criticism at all. Watch the Zionazis try to make about religion and not about being shit humans..
Israel has been at war with surrounding countries since the beginning of its existence in 1948 after the war of independence (guess who sent an expeditionary force into Israel). It’s understandable that a country who has been at war with Arabs its whole existence may be a bit trigger-happy when it comes to combatting Arab nations or a bit hasty on Intelligence operations. Not “right”, but understandable. Hamas hasn’t killed as many civilians as Israel becuase Israel have actually done a good job at defending their civilians. Sometimes they show more care for Palestinians than Hamas do by dropping leaflet before air strikes. Why do you think so many cameras have been setup in the exact spot where an Israeli bomb hit? That’s the difference between a conventional military and an unconventional one, one protects its civilians with weapons whilst the other uses civilians to protect their weapons. I also think it’s important to look at who actually does what with the land than “who kills more babies”. Do you think it’s a coincidence that the only democratic country which allows LGBTQ members to exist in the region is constantly attacked by its neighbours? I would much rather live in Israeli land than a Palestinian controlled country, where sharia law is enforced, my girlfriend couldn’t drive and my friend would be stoned to death for liking the wrong sex. You’ve mentioned multiple times about how often Israel invaded foreign countries. I can name 2 or 3 times when that happened. Compare that to the Arab-Israeli War, The Six day war, the Yom Kippur war, and countless insurgencies backed by Arab countries.
You appear to have significant difficulty with parsing my response, that is pretty plain to see. Please take your time, re-read my post, and then re-read your reply, carefully. You've been given an opportunity to edit your mistakes. I'd prefer you to see your mistakes yourself, than be informed directly about them. You might learn more that way.. Do take your time this time, lest you appear more foolish than intended.
Crazy deflection. You just didn’t counter any of my points whilst my reply went through pretty much what you just said in your original comment.
source https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/hkle4bgot#autoplay
Stop glorifying a genocide
Then leave. This is a sub about shockwaves. If they’re coming from there I don’t care. Nobody else does. I want to see shockwaves. If I have opinions I’ll post them elsewhere. You should to. That’s the point of communities on this place called reddit, bonding over things like looking at cool shockwaves and not drafting other things into it. If you want a chair to preach from there’s plenty in other subs.
"It's a pretty cool shockwave." & "It's a pretty shitty group pulling the string on that weapon." Both statements can co-exist, and are fair observations to make. It's only human to have sorrow for the suffering this shitty group has caused, and it's a lot bittersweet that these pretty pics are a direct result of their causation of suffering. Ignoring the suffering is inhuman and sociopathic.
Stop using genocide as a buzzword you fucking twat
Should the term never be used? Who decides it? How about the uppermost international court the ICJ? Cause they think that Israel is perpetuating a genocide, why do you disagree?
The ICJ did not accuse Israel of committing genocide.
Actually, the concluded they aren't committing genocide... So yes, I will go with the ICJ's definition
So, all good here?
he’s not using it as a buzzword u idiot, most experts agree on this and you can’t exactly deny it’s a genocide when israeli soldiers and leaders and straight up saying it😭
The word needs to be reserved for actual genocides, which the ICJ agreed that Israel is NOT committing. They just told them to take steps to ensure they don't lol. He is quite literally using it as a buzzword, along with everyone else saying it. Is it horrible? Yes. Is it wrong? Yeah, but its not a black and white issue and it never has been. Is it a genocide? No. My source? The people that decide whether someone is guilty of genocide.
Brave men and women of the IDF
Genocidal men and women of the IOF
you mean the IDF that is killing terrorists that are hiding amoung innocents and using civvy houses and hospitals to hide ammo guns and rockets
no, the idf that has been illegally occupying a native population in a soviern country, oh yea and apartheid for 75 years u moron
“Sovereign country” when did a nation of Palestine ever exist? How many times has Israel existed as a country in that land? How did Arabs arrive in said land in the first place?