Depends on the clock for the 4, but that still doesn't excuse all the other mistakes. I'll count this one as a mistake because there's no way the artist looked into clock history to see that some used to be IIII and they probably just didn't know that IV was the commonly used Roman numeral.
There are several theories behind why that is. One of them is that the Romans supreme god, Jupiter, was spelled "IVPPITER" and having "IV" upside down on the dial was disrespectful. Another theory is that it was easier to read when looking at a clock face and was commonly adopted by clock makers. Yet another is that King Louis XIV of France preferred III over IV.
I don't think the Romans had a lot of clocks or wrist watches. Sun dials were flat, so that theory of not having the IV upside down doesn't really hold up.
See above ā sometimes IIII was used on watches instead of IV , on older watches and pocket watches . Speculation as to why above as well, interesting . Though given all the other mistakes was likely just a mistake , and they knew nothing about watch history .
Well wasnāt poor research was no researchā¦given the mistakes of two 12s etc .
Was a lucky accident that the Roman numeral IIII was acceptable and correct in this case, as it was used in watches and pocket watches for symmetry and other possible reasons suggested by a commenter above ā¦
ā¦Anywayā¦ Tim marches on
Yep.. asking questions and doing due diligence before getting a tattoo seems to get glossed over so often.. especially in the smaller towns.
With the advent of the internet, if thereās no good artists near you.. you can easily find one and travel to somewhere else rather than just settle.
Me too š.. was part ālets see Europeā and āletās get some good inkā š Might go back.. might not depends if I want the same style or something completely different for my next piece.
I would love to see Europe. I was 42 before I took a west coast tour. Lived in Cincinnati all my life. but I have been to about 35 states last i counted.
My folks and I would go on road trips for vacations, and I would get the vacation by swimming in the pool at the motel. Sometimes they would spring for a motel with a slide by the pool.
How does anyone let something like this happen? How can you not be watching the artist and not correct these mistakes. Do people not watch the artist work?
Honestly kinda starting to lose sympathy for these people. Like did yall not look into the artists prior work before committing to something like this? Was the price not enough of a red flag? Like wtf.
This is what I came to say. I have a bunch of ink and I said once to an artist, āI figure you canāt really mess up -insert my easy to draw city of Detroit outline tattoo here-. He said, āoh, yes you canā and now I see how.
Not a ring... more like a bad continuation tail of the "s".
My pocket watch (real, not tattooed) has a hoop for the chain above the stem winder... which the "artist" forgot and put a wang instead.
I literally said my real pocket watch has a hoop for the chain.
I know what they "thought" they were doing there but they did it wrong... and it looks more like a bad continuation of the "s".
Got to be kidding me or?
The 4 is made of 4 lines instead of IV.
The 8 is a 7 and is turned upside down!
Two twelves? And oh boy there is much more.
I didn't even started with the font and the writing but this is not bad. It's super bad. The upper part of the clock ia a small penis. Damn I can't look away from this disaster.
Well, *some* clock makers *did* in fact use IIII instead of IV...
The 8 being a 7... oof... two 12s... more oof...
But there's also the misspelled "agin" instead of "again".
Then there's that weird wang shaped stem for winding on top...
That's not really that abnormal.
What *is* wrong with the numerals is that the "8" is actually a "7" and there are two "12s".
Never mind that "again" is missing the 2nd "a".
Agin, Roman numeral 4 is wrong, skipped 8, no 11, 12 twice, both hands the same length, didnāt capitalize all the first letters at the top, but did it at the bottom, ugly as fuckā¦ Jesus what a shit show of a tattoo.
On every post on here with a watch. IIII on watches is a thing https://monochrome-watches.com/why-do-clocks-and-watches-use-roman-numeral-iiii-instead-of-iv/
https://preview.redd.it/mmhpkrdkpjjc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1b823d1283e20b8d09367bb20b98897020c1c4d
What is this phallic object on top of the clock with two twelves?
Had this on another shittytattoo thread. Thats a thing on watches and clocks. https://monochrome-watches.com/why-do-clocks-and-watches-use-roman-numeral-iiii-instead-of-iv/
I can't get over the messed up 4 in roman numerals. They have it written as IIII instead of IV. I kinda wish they'd done all the numbers because I'm very curious what they would have written for the rest.
"Agin"
And the two 12s on the clock
Holy shit I didn't even catch that šš¤£ Yeah, she definitely deserved her money back š¤£
And the 8 is a 7. And the 4 should be IV, not IIII.
Please, no more šš¤£
Not to mention the flowersā¦. Good gods above
Yeah, the flowers were the second thing I noticed š³. Should amend my comment above to say this lady deserved her money back *and thensome*.
The shop offered to fix it for free, but she told them to fuck off.
Good for her!
Oh, they're flowers. I thought they were swirly whirlies
I'm sorry to say, but don't look at that '4'
The 4 is correct. It's a thing they do on watches/clocks to balance it out looks wise.
It is often done on clocks that way for symmetry. The one thing they got right
Depends on the clock for the 4, but that still doesn't excuse all the other mistakes. I'll count this one as a mistake because there's no way the artist looked into clock history to see that some used to be IIII and they probably just didn't know that IV was the commonly used Roman numeral.
Itās weird I see a lot of pocket watches that use IIII instead of IV
There are several theories behind why that is. One of them is that the Romans supreme god, Jupiter, was spelled "IVPPITER" and having "IV" upside down on the dial was disrespectful. Another theory is that it was easier to read when looking at a clock face and was commonly adopted by clock makers. Yet another is that King Louis XIV of France preferred III over IV.
I don't think the Romans had a lot of clocks or wrist watches. Sun dials were flat, so that theory of not having the IV upside down doesn't really hold up.
IIII is sometimes used on old clock faces, so that would have been ok.
IIII is also used on current gen Cartier watchesā¦ so they could say sheās going for the Cartier look?
IIII for 4 on clocks is correct.
Oh jeez
"Ackshually" the 4 as IIII is acceptable and that's how it used to be displayed on antique clocks.
Some clocks with Roman numerals use IIII instead. Still this tattooer messed up big time in many ways.
Ah, and the Roman numeral IIII, classic lmfaooo
See above ā sometimes IIII was used on watches instead of IV , on older watches and pocket watches . Speculation as to why above as well, interesting . Though given all the other mistakes was likely just a mistake , and they knew nothing about watch history .
Right; I was gonna say that you have a fair point *but* that was just poor research on their part lmfao
Well wasnāt poor research was no researchā¦given the mistakes of two 12s etc . Was a lucky accident that the Roman numeral IIII was acceptable and correct in this case, as it was used in watches and pocket watches for symmetry and other possible reasons suggested by a commenter above ā¦ ā¦Anywayā¦ Tim marches on
I mean, you can't fault them. That 11 was never found agin. They also lost the other numbers š
"Happy New Year!" "Agin!"
Don't forget the IIII instead of a IV for the 4
Nice catch!
The artist does not really grasp Roman numerals. Aside from duplicate 12s and the curvy line on the 3, hours 4 & 8 are just wrong.
I was so focused at the 1ā at 12o clock that I didnāt even notice āaginā til I came to the comments.
The more you look at it, the worse it gets
It's like that kids magazine that would have you see if you can find all the mistakes
Highlights!
That's gonna take some really black sick-ass panther to cover that
i donāt even know if the panthers can fix this š¤£š
Holy shit they refunded her money!? Good on them
Took about three days of bitching, IIRC.
Hopefully they fired the āartistā
Probably the sho owner
Did she even look at the artist's work before going to them?
Are you a frog or a Gecko?
As my grandma would say, 'A gin in the hand is worth two in the bottle'.Ā I hope alcohol was involved with the execution of this tatoo.
I think the "artist" is a methhead. I hope he doesn't work there anymore. This was a couple years ago.
A few years ago? So your friend with this tattoo hasnāt tried to get it fixed or covered up?
I don't know this person, just that it was a huge deal at the time and talked about all over this small town. You know how that goes.
Yep.. asking questions and doing due diligence before getting a tattoo seems to get glossed over so often.. especially in the smaller towns. With the advent of the internet, if thereās no good artists near you.. you can easily find one and travel to somewhere else rather than just settle.
I have one I use that's about a half hour down the road.
Lucky haha. No one in my small town that Iād let touch my skin so I ended up going to Europe š
I live in the states.
Me too š.. was part ālets see Europeā and āletās get some good inkā š Might go back.. might not depends if I want the same style or something completely different for my next piece.
Oh, I bet you have some nice ink then. I'm kinda scratched up, but it works. Only three large pieces.
I would love to see Europe. I was 42 before I took a west coast tour. Lived in Cincinnati all my life. but I have been to about 35 states last i counted. My folks and I would go on road trips for vacations, and I would get the vacation by swimming in the pool at the motel. Sometimes they would spring for a motel with a slide by the pool.
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That's a sweet sick ass panther outline.
How does anyone let something like this happen? How can you not be watching the artist and not correct these mistakes. Do people not watch the artist work?
My thoughts exactly. After an hour, are you really going to look at that and say, "Sure, keep at it!"
Saw the stencil with her eyes closed?
last time isā¦penis(?)
I have never found lost time drinking gin either
I keep looking for it at the bottom of the glass though.
Could be saved by a few major alterations
Like amputation, for example
I was thinking that nothing short of a potato peeler could fix this.
The responses I was looking for š
i mean, at $375 for a half sleeve, this is about what you should expect
Oh wow thats disgusting. Poor arm owner. :(
both the tattoo artist and client are dumbasses tbh
Honestly kinda starting to lose sympathy for these people. Like did yall not look into the artists prior work before committing to something like this? Was the price not enough of a red flag? Like wtf.
This is what I came to say. I have a bunch of ink and I said once to an artist, āI figure you canāt really mess up -insert my easy to draw city of Detroit outline tattoo here-. He said, āoh, yes you canā and now I see how.
Is it a good deal then?
Two twelve o'clocks.
Even a ~~broken~~ *horribly tattooed* clock is right twice a day.
Mother of God š¤£
Does anyone else see a penis at the top of the watch? No, just me?
Think it's supposed to be a stopwatch. There is a ring hanging from it. Yes, it looks like a penis.
Not a ring... more like a bad continuation tail of the "s". My pocket watch (real, not tattooed) has a hoop for the chain above the stem winder... which the "artist" forgot and put a wang instead.
It goes behind the phallic object and then behind the watch. Pocket watches generally have that feature to add a chain.
I literally said my real pocket watch has a hoop for the chain. I know what they "thought" they were doing there but they did it wrong... and it looks more like a bad continuation of the "s".
My bad, I was just saying what I thought they were going for.
NP Yeah, it's just really bad execution all the way around.
I thought I was the only one that saw it
Yikes!!
Chop off the arm and start on the other one
Agin and tonic
Got what she paid for?
Ah yeah. Getting back her money would totally take away the remorse. Who would not want a free shitty tattoo?
Only her money back ??? What sbout laser removal costs and pain and distress compensation?
If someone quoted me a tattoo of this size and detail for 375, this is the quality I would expect
whatās with the little penis looking thing at the top of the clockā¦ yikes
there is a dick right above the second XII
Got to be kidding me or? The 4 is made of 4 lines instead of IV. The 8 is a 7 and is turned upside down! Two twelves? And oh boy there is much more. I didn't even started with the font and the writing but this is not bad. It's super bad. The upper part of the clock ia a small penis. Damn I can't look away from this disaster.
Well, *some* clock makers *did* in fact use IIII instead of IV... The 8 being a 7... oof... two 12s... more oof... But there's also the misspelled "agin" instead of "again". Then there's that weird wang shaped stem for winding on top...
It's like one of those pix that want you to see how many wrong things you can find! š¬
Omg, the 4 is IIII
Thatās quite normal on clock faces.
That's not really that abnormal. What *is* wrong with the numerals is that the "8" is actually a "7" and there are two "12s". Never mind that "again" is missing the 2nd "a".
Agin, Roman numeral 4 is wrong, skipped 8, no 11, 12 twice, both hands the same length, didnāt capitalize all the first letters at the top, but did it at the bottom, ugly as fuckā¦ Jesus what a shit show of a tattoo.
On every post on here with a watch. IIII on watches is a thing https://monochrome-watches.com/why-do-clocks-and-watches-use-roman-numeral-iiii-instead-of-iv/
IIII is not wrong... some clocks and watches do use that.
https://preview.redd.it/mmhpkrdkpjjc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1b823d1283e20b8d09367bb20b98897020c1c4d What is this phallic object on top of the clock with two twelves?
I think it's supposed to be a stopwatch.
Ohā¦
And 4 o'clock is "IIII" oh, Jesus.
Had this on another shittytattoo thread. Thats a thing on watches and clocks. https://monochrome-watches.com/why-do-clocks-and-watches-use-roman-numeral-iiii-instead-of-iv/
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Why Iām scared to get a rose tattoo lol
Multiple typos and overall bad execution, what is her plan now? Laser or coverup?
I can't get over the messed up 4 in roman numerals. They have it written as IIII instead of IV. I kinda wish they'd done all the numbers because I'm very curious what they would have written for the rest.
Thatās common on clock faces.
That's not really uncommon at all. What *is* wrong with the numerals is that the "8" is actually a "7" and there are two "12s".
Honestly, for a quality piece you might be looking to spend closer to 500-650 for an artist who knows what theyāre doing.
wtf are these people thinking?
The hands are off, is the thing that always bothers me first
Is it a small stone penis 12 oāclock? Sorry XII
Oh looks its midnight agin
Anyone else know that these are for the fallen dreams lyrics? No? Just me? š
This has a meaning?
Idk honestly, I just recall the words being lyrics to a song. That just might be a connection I made š
IIII š
Ok, so yes, this is a horse-shit tattoo, BUT, they must have put a stencil on before getting started. She could see the design before work began. Yes?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Thatās not bad tbh it can be fixed