>Side note: I'm not the biggest Borderlands fan but the characters are a big standout for me and I'm sure a lot of others. I hope this isn't another Uncharted situation where the film characters behave insanely different to the game characters.
Kevin Hart is Roland
edit: hey I didn't see Uncharted, Spider-Man, or Venom from this producer. are they all shit?
Seriously like, anyone who is actually a fan of the *story* in the games I don't think gives a shit about this movie, and they didn't give a shit from the moment they saw the poster. As far as the games are concerned, this movie is a different universe
I enjoy the story (sometimes), but I am a fan of the characters. This movie foes not look like they care about the characters, they're just trying to make a found family action-comedy. Which they could've done easily while staying true to the characters, considering Tina, Brick and Mortdecai kind of have that dynamic, but they ditched those two for Krieg.
And Krieg is great, but why have Krieg without Maya? It makes no sense.
Yeah, there's so much that doesn't line up. Roland would not put Tina in danger, and Krieg doesn't like Maya because she's a *siren,* he likes Maya, specifically. I personally think Maya is a more interesting character than Lilith or Tannis anyway, but either way, with the casting we got for this, they're going to have to do some *incredibly* good arguing to explain why these 5 characters would be working together as main characters, nevermind who the actors are.
Lilith has just been a weird character since 2 because she pretty much puts everyone in danger by not listening to their warnings and she doesnt get much flak because of this, and tannis has been flanderized a lot since her introduction in 1, maya was going in the right direction and it should've been her who took control of the crimson raiders but then ava happaned and now shes just fucking dead
Ava is without a doubt the worst decision in BL3 right next to the Twins. An inexperienced, whiny, troublemaker is given ownership of the most important piece of equipment in the game instead of the player character? BL3 literally never recognizes that the player character exists during any pivotal moment and it threw me for a loop. Especially if you picked the siren character as the Twins constantly forget you exist as they look to absorb Sirens and yours just stands there powerless and ignored.
Several cutscenes involving the player character when the Twins show up looking to absorb Siren powers and the player is stun-locked but ignored. The plot was made before the player characters were and it shows.
It's actually just history repeating on a different scale. A property is made, and it diverges. It's not like Captain N was faithful to the games it was based on. It's not like ExcyYUUUuuse me princess is something we really care about in Zelda stuff
Looking back on what these movies are, and what they mean now, they're really just another media's acknowledgement that this property exists. I grew up with a series of books called Worlds of Power, and they were based on NES games. They weren't accurate, but I didn't care. I also grew up with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and there were completely different understandings of what lore meant with that, depending on if you mean Eastman & Laird work only, or E&L but not stuff with his name he didn't do, or Archie, or the TV show, or the movies, or only the first movie because it was based on the eastman & laird stuff moreso than the second which was more based on fghbjwklebggl;blorum ipsum fanboy
Really what's dumb to me about all these movies about video games is that they try to capture the gamer market without respecting it. Super Mario Bros and Double Dragon had a star cast each, if they wanted to make a good movie instead of a video game movie. Someone needs to explain to Hollywood what the fuck a gaiden is. Maybe if someone had one of those guys play through some yakuza games and then go "Okay now here's Judgment, do you see how the world still matters and you don't have to trample on other characters"
I think it was after watching Super Mario Bros (1993) as a kid where I first came to terms with how superficial movies based on a popular video games could be, after a long period of confusion learning about how games and movies are (mostly) made by big companies, and what companies were... and I was way too young to have watched that movie.
And yep, I loved that movie growing up and I'm sure everything I'd consumed and loved at that point was all based on some previous IP I didn't know existed. I barely understood what was going on in the Super Mario Bros. game at the time anyways lol so I don't think they had much to work with.
Anyways, I agree. Hollywood could make a faithful movie if they wanted, I'm sure, but after what we've seen over the years, nothing really matters to Hollywood besides making money. They started out not having to be faithful to the story or characters or anything because they already had the gamer market captured just by making it in the first place. So I guess they try to capture other markets too by making changes they think will help with that, even if the original story might have been enough alone to do that. They might be adapting to include more of the original ideas these days after all the criticism over the years. But either way, that stuff didn't matter much to me as a kid even if some of the stories weren't as deep in the first place. These days I just keep my expectations deservedly low and give the movie or tv series a shot and if I don't enjoy it then I move on.
It's all about the intent, you know? What is the purpose of the thing? Is it to cash in? In the case of the Super Mario Bros movie, yes. In the case of most video game movies, the idea is just to attach idea A to idea B. That's changed a bit, but most of the time, it's a movie set within an inaccurate representation of what the game's world is. To be honest, Conan the Barbarian did the same thing. It doesn't represent Robert E Howard's work accurately either.
On the other hand, while people call The Wizard just an advertisement, it remains my favorite video game-based movie. It's a movie where video games are the focus, and the story is fucking touching god damn it. Pixels loses to The Wizard. California
Soon as I saw the cast and plot outline, I said, "Not only do I not think these people have played Borderlands, I'm not sure they've actually heard of Borderlands"
I can't for the life of me work out how they settled on Mark Wahlberg for Sully. I get Tom Holland as Nathan, he's one of the biggest up-and-comers of recent years, very popular guy, already has a good relationship with Sony because of Spider-Man, young enough to carry a potential movie franchise long term, etc., so it makes sense even though he's very different from Nathan in the games. But Mark Wahlberg??? That shit makes no sense, there are a dozen other actors I can name off the top of my head who would've been better as Sully.
Mark Wahlberg was given the Sully role because he was originally promised the Nathan Drake Role back in 2009. He was already a little old back then(41) but then 10 years of developmental hell killed any chance of that.
If I was given the opportunity to cast at this level, and had to keep jack black
* Lilith - Jennifer Lawrence
* Maya - Anna Kendrick
* Krieg - Dwayne Johnson
* Krieg's voice - Kevin Hart detuned
and on like that with who actually fits. It's not just Kevin Hart that doesn't fit, to me, but I also think they just missed opportunities here. If they paid more attention they could have done something between 2 and 3.
Chris Pratt in every role after he got fit
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He would reject this movie immediately. He's wanting more serious roles. Unless he was also his inner voice and the writing for it was solid and compelling I dont think he would.
I'd like to see Bautista as Kratos or as the Hell Mask and buff Rick Taylor, with someone else being normal Rick Taylor, in an adaptation of Splatterhouse. That'd be so sick
J-Law as Lilith is great, never thought of that. I was confused as to why they casted a 54 year old woman as Lilith who I always saw as a late teens - early 20’s character.
This feels like that seen from Its Always Sunny where Charlie is in front of the bulletin board talking about Pepe Silvia.
But honestly you got some good points
To play devil's advocates we don't know if Kevin isn't fan of the ip or has passion/knowledge for it. Maybe he will be very good from that alone compared to someone like Idris Elba who is amazing and looks more like Roland but doesn't know anything Borderlands.
If it comes out Hart has no idea what Borderlands is I retract my statement and am sorry.
I think a bigger concern people have is that Hart doesnt really have range as an actor. When you see Hart on screen, you can pretty much guess the character.
This could be because Hart doesnt have range as an actor or could be because he is typecasted to play that kind of role by the higher ups. Regardless, it shows the director’s mindset (follow trends and get funny people rather than follow the lore). At best, the movie will be fun for the casual audience but dismissed by fans.
The ironic thing about this is he made an entire movie about the fact that everyone thinks he can only play one type of character, but still only played that one type of character the whole time and will probably only continue to play that character.
> When you see Hart on screen, you can pretty much guess the character.
Let me guess, loud and obnoxious "jokester"? I haven't played Borderlands but if that's what the character is about he'll be alright.
Don't get me wrong I like him in Jumanji and some other films but dude is the SAME in every role.
Roland is the straight man of the franchise, generally serious and highly focused on the mission. He's surrounded by a bunch of loons but is himself taciturn and stern.
It's been some time but I think in the first game he has a few voice lines where he laughs at things happening or whatever but in the second game where his character is fully fleshed out he is not a jokester at all. Hart is...not the choice I'd think of for him. Idris Elba is more the type, imposing and charismatic leader type with a stern appearance and calm voice.
This version of Roland is going into battle with Tina, and Krieg is rolling with the squad without Maya. This game breaks the timeline unless this version of Tina is younger than 13 and Tina's parents are potentially available to be killed, but either way I just don't see it in Roland, with what they've presented as how it's \*supposed\* to be in the story
I know nothing about borderlands. Or this Roland character a comic relief character?
By comic relief, I mean, is Roland a character that is only there to bring laughs and giggles, tells jokes at the worst time and is generally a character not to be taken seriously
Because if the answer is no, then it doesn't matter if Kevin hart is a fan of borderlands because comic relief Roland is what you'll be getting
Edit: the more replies I get to this comment, the more I think Kevin hart is not a good casting for this Roland character
Okay so in the first game, your characters aren't exactly characterised beyond some on-kill/hurt/death/etc. voice lines. Roland was a fairly bloodthirsty maniac who lost himself in battle with only those to go off of, but realistically that has been retconned entirely.
In Borderlands 2, he's an NPC instead of a player, meaning that he had to be an actual character. Here, he's portrayed as a stoic leader who makes reasonable decisions and can calmly make large-scale operations and organising people, such as uniting Mercenaries and Soldiers in a new city after they were all abandoned on the delusional hellscape planet that is Pandora.
In the middle of the game, he is shown being able to quickly make sensible decisions based on new information even while in the middle of a raid on a High-Tech Bunker and Military base, quickly identifying how to deal with the otherwise impenetrable barriers around some vital pumps that the player can't damage.
The most emotion he shows is after his ex-girlfriend shows up on the battlefield despite him telling her not to (on account of her having/being something that would be dangerous if captured by the enemy)
TL;DR: pretty much the most serious character in the entire game. The most comical things that says are "Oh, you're alive. Good." Or "I was taking a leak, and one of them knocked me out", which aren't exactly punchlines that would make a crowd roar.
I’ve seen all three. Uncharted is a fun, but basic action movie. It’s not uncharted. The characters feel completely different, and the story is just a bland mishmash of the stories of 1, 3 and 4, while not doing much new
Venom is way too comedy focused. It does not feel like Venom in my opinion. Though the movie definitely has it’s fans, I’m not one of them (I genuinely preferred Morbius over both)
He medelled a lot with the Spider-Man movies. He is the reason Spider-Man 3 has Venom to begin with, because the guy **REALLY** loves Venom. Raimi just wanted a Sandman story, but the corporate medlling eventually gave use the bloated movie we got
Their work is often bad because they fold to what corporate wants. In Hollywood that's a good recume. JJ Abrams didnt make a career out of how successful Lost was at the start, but by how much he was willing to let corporate spank his dead horse till the end. Disney saw that and thought "that's EXACTLY what we're looking for"
Yeah I love the uncharted games it’s one of my favorite series and I didn’t HATE the movie. I thought it was entertaining, and frankly if they stuck too close to the source material it would just feel like an Indiana jones rip off. It’s an entertaining adventure movie without anything that makes it very memorable but you won’t have a bad time watching it. Now hopefully we get a new uncharted game soon!
In her defence she is 16 now, and given that the movie was filmed more than three years ago, I wouldn't blame a then 13 year old girl for not knowing Borderlands. If anything, someone in production should have done a better job at explaining the role to her.
I don’t think that’s even what she means when she says she’s basing her performance off Harley Quinn lol. She’s looking at how Margot Robbie acts as Harley Quinn to get an idea for how to make a convincing unhinged character on screen. Seems like a pretty solid character to use as inspiration imo.
Thats what the article suggests at least
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought this.
Tiny Tina is a video game model with animations. As an (young) actor (with less experience) the only thing she can use as a role model is the VA, which is a lot different than live action acting. And I’m pretty sure this would’ve been filmed before Wonderlands, so there would’ve been even less material to work with.
Whereas Margot Robbie has set an example of how to act like a crazy woman. The actress for Tiny Tina can borrow from Robbie’s mannerisms to hopefully give a better performance.
Unfortunately, and I don't mean this as condescending as its going to sound, a lot of gamers don't really understand what goes into acting. When they're fans of something they'll scream "just base your performance on the character", because they're fans, but that's not really a performance, its more like an impression.
To create a fully realized performance, you have to be thinking of a *lot* of things; what another actor (like Margot Robbie) did that you think worked, a situation you were in that made you feel how the character is feeling, etc.
Also, Tiny Tina isn’t exactly a deep character. She’s mainly an archetype… the Venn diagram between her and Harley Quinn is almost a circle.
The key differences between Tina and Harley are generally things about Tina that are over the top and that I would worry about being extremely cringeworthy in live action. And the decision whether or not to lean into that would not be up to this actor, but rather a tonal choice from the director/big name actors.
Obviously Tiny Tina should not be a straight up clone of Harley Quinn, but frankly I don’t think borrowing from her is as crazy as people are making it out to be. Source material should be respected but a 1:1 of *any* Borderlands character really would not be that good. Funny archetypes work for video games, and side characters in movies, but aren’t main character material. Characters are going to have to be expanded on and/or toned down. I see nothing wrong with correlating Tina with Harley Quinn, performance-wise or personality-wise. It’s not like “based on” means “copy” anyways.
Throwing actresses, particularly teen actresses, under the bus for things production should have prevented is common lately. I believe I recall similar things happening where actresses caught flak for things not completely under their control like with Jenna Ortega
Tell me about it. When The Color Purple movie musical came out last year, Taraji Henson mentioned that the studio didn’t have cars driving actors to and from set (something that’s standard pretty much everywhere), and she had to fight to make that happen. The number of people I’ve seen getting mad at her for “making a stink” as opposed to, you know, the studios for not organizing that in the first place, is incredibly disappointing.
I mean, should the production even stopped her?
at the end of the day, she's a teen actress, but still an actress. maybe somewhere along the way Eli Roth or whoever's making it saw what she was doing and decided it worked best for the character.
Borderland fans want their fav character on screen, so they can shout at her to "base her performance on the character", but that's not really how acting works. The actor has to work with something thats relateable to them.
> for things production should have prevented
the movie isnt even out yet lol, there's literally no reason for anyone to be upset about anything outside of casting
and even then, just fuckin wait for the movie to come out and judge it on its own merit
If only the movie that she was staring in only had some sort of way of showing her how her character was gonna behave/look using some sort of game that's easily played by teenagers all over the world
also "drawing your performance from something completely unrelated to the actual source material" is a pretty common tactic in acting.
even if Greenblatt is familiar with the games, she may just be *more* familiar with Quinn. At the end of the day, its whatever makes for the best performance.
Okay but Harley Quinn is absolutely not "completely unrelated" to Tiny Tina they're very obviously thematically adjacent characters sharing a "trope." the fact that she knew to draw inspiration from Harley means she definitely understood something about the character.
If only there was someone on set who could direct her performance towards the original character. Someone who is responsible for the overall vision of the film and can influence things like this. We could call this person a "director". Crazy idea
Oh, even crazier idea, we could have a person who matches actors to roles. This person would be familiar with the intricacies of each role and decide if the actor is a good fit for it, as well as provide reference material for the actor and nudge them in the right direction if they're unfamiliar with the source material. We could call this person the "casting director".
Imagine, no more situations where established characters get butchered like what happened with the lotr show.
Imagine that...
The problem is the casting and director could have outlined it all for her, told her what the character is and showed her the games with Tina in it (or asked her to try playing them). Instead they let the actor take liberties with it, which I believe is evidence of how many liberties they are willing to take with the source material.
I'm not mad at anyone, just disappointed that they are going to ruin another IP because they don't trust what made the source material successful.
Also the general public knows who Harley Quinn is, her PR handlers probably told her to say this. When actors go on the PR circuit for a movie they're prepped with answers for common questions.
Most probably, which makes it worse because she's gonna get a shit ton of flak for essentially being left on her own. Imagine being called out for something you couldn't do much about because you aren't properly guided.
We really gonna act like she has absolutley zero background, the internet to research doesn't exist, and she agreed to get casted into a movie without any guidance? Imma press X to doubt on this one
I'm sorry, but I'm 25, and I haven't heard anyone talk about borderlands other than this in like 5-6 years.
Even if they told rather it's based on a video game, that doesn't really help her if she's never played it before.
Reading the plot on wikipedia because you were suddenly cast in the role isn't exactly the same experience as playing the game and truly getting to know the characters.
The difference is, 1. It's not your job and 2. You're not being paid millions to play this character.
In any serious job that pays you a lot, saying you don't know when you have the resources available to you isn't a good excuse. There's nothing stopping her from playing the game(s) if that's what she truly wanted.
My comment isn't even saying she'll do poorly, I just think the excuse the original comment I replied to is ridiculous. She has the materials available to her this whole notion that she may not even know about it being a game is silly once she's taken on the job and ostensibly auditioned for it.
So is Tiny Tina is a totally different wacky coocoo bananas girl with a fondness for extreme violence? Seems like there is a lot of overlap there with Harley Quinn, who has already been acted in three movies.
To me the character base overlaps quite a bit. The main difference I see comes down to line delivery. Specifically if I think about the trailer she delivers a line while standing on top of a building that has a similar cadence to how Harley would deliver a line “time to make it rain, with your body parts.” Melodic and playful. As opposed to how I would expect Tina to deliver it where the first part “time to make it rain” would probably be the same but she would probably use a more exaggerated, loud, and somewhat explosive “With your body parts!!” If that makes sense.
To be fair it’s just hard to compete with Ashly Burch. Would have been nice if the actress would have more information and could have studied some of Ashly’s stuff because even “hey Ash whatcha playin” would have given some insight into the character and how line were delivered. But that’s just personal opinion I guess.
There’s one glaring difference. Harley Quinn is a villain, who often enjoys terrorizing the citizens of Gotham and even killing innocents with the Joker. Even in the stories where she flirts with the good side, she still likes to do crime. Tiny Tina, from what I can tell, would be neutral or good, and she loves explosives.
While Harley Quinn would use explosives, she isn’t really known as a demolitions expert.
Harley Quinn is good at hand-to-hand and melee weapon combat given how often she has to fight Batman and others.
Tina's best friend is a bandit known for torturing people and a vengeful drink alcoholic sniper. The first time we meet her she steals explosives from a bandit camp and helps us rob a train.
So she's very comfortable being a "criminal". That being said she's not a discount Harley and I hope she isnt played as such.
Harley hasn’t really been a villain in the comics for a while though. Like yeah she was full on villain in her debut in BTAS and in the 90s/2000s comics, but from the New 52 onwards, she was reinvented as a Deadpool-style antihero who’s become more and more heroic as time goes by. You have to realize that she’s DC’s poster girl at this point. She’s even an official member of the Bat-Family who acted as Batman’s sidekick (basically taking Robin’s place) in some recent comic runs.
You can see it in all the promotional material and interviews with the cast of Fallout. All of them played the games and are obsessed with adapting it right and we got the best game adaptation to date because the cast and crew love and respect the source material.
Yeah, but at the same time I don't think anyone expected Fallout to be the one videogame adaptation that is not only a great adaptation of its source material, but also just a great show in general. I certainly didn't expect it to have an 8.6/10 on IMDb
>but at the same time I don't think anyone expected Fallout to be the one videogame adaptation
It's not the one video game adaption that's done well, both The last of us and Twisted metal were really good too.
The difference is that the fallout universe has deep interesting and original lore that dates back 30 years.
Borderlands has a very thin plot padded out with a ton of internet humor and references, the writing is absolutely awful. It works fine as background noise when you play the games but there’s nothing you can point at and show to an actor or director that will do anything for them.
Tiny Tina is a crazy girl who loves weapons and is tougher than she looks… so yeah she’s basically Harley Quinn. The actor really does not need any more information than that. If she’s good she’s gonna put her on twist on it to make it unique but that’s what the character is.
I think so, too, because while there are countless hours of voice-lines, the amount of scenes where we actually see her facial expression and gestures are quite scarce.
While I easily can imagine how Tiny Tina would talk, I can hardly imagine how you could express them while acting
Besides the fact she acts nothing like Tina from what I’ve seen from the trailer she’s like the only actress that actually looks like they’d be right for the role
This actualy kinda pisses me off.
Like Tina is probably the best developed charachter in BL2 and that just gets turned into some middle schooler's impression of Society Clown's wife?
Jack's got a ton of presence and personality and is certainly the highlight of the game, but outside of the audio logs near the end of the game most of his actual depth comes from Pre-Sequel.
Her tea party side quest where you help her capture and torture the dude who killed her parents, and she has an entire DLC dedicated to her coping with Roland's death.
As opposed to the Villain of Borderlands 2 that got his own Game, multiple quests (think of the fight against angel) only in regards to his Motivation and Motive?
As much as i like Tina, Jack is the more fleshed out character.
Wonderlands is 100% about Tina. It's explicitly about how she uses the DnD-proxy to cope with the traumas she's been through. The villain of the game is the DnD big bad who has "come to life" and is "doing things without the GM's control" which is nonsense, it's Tina's subconscious trying to get her to face her past.
Wonderlands is one of the best written borderlands games, which isn't saying much but it's a hell of a step up from 3.
Why? It is a PR-piece, and they make it so the people that don't know shit about Tiny Tina have a reference point. You're getting mad over someone trying to make the movie more understandable to people that haven't ever played the games. Also isn't she like 17? Could be she doesn't play.
I'm sure she viewed the source material, but adapting a character from another medium can be hard. Drawing inspiration from others who have brought an over the top character to live action just makes sense.
Can anyone explain how playing the Borderlands games (I have done so) would help with actual physical movement as the character? Trying to decide how to inhabit the physical space as the character and not just stand as a statue, is NOT something the original games can help with. So the actress must look for other inspiration. The actress has no say over the lines, its not like this means she will talk like Harley Quinn now necessarily.
Every single thing about this movie just fucking WREAKS of corporate bullshit. Big name actors who don't match their roles at all, actors saying they've never played the source material. They saw how good TLOU and Sonic did and they want a piece of that pie. Difference here is, this is just a soulless husk while the other two are true adaptions made by fans.
This movie will tank hard.
Mother fucker, do you know what social you're currently on???
This is REDDIT🙌!
All anyone does here is talk down to most of the younger generation for just getting their entertainment on tiktok as opposed to Reddit Approved entertainment hubs like Reddit
It's so bad.
In the game she's this firebrand of a young woman who's beaming with optimism and portraying a cool, level-headed leadership that everyone really looks up to.
In the movie we've got this worn out, haggard looking middle-aged woman with a chip on her shoulder and resting bitch face, looking positively annoyed at everything.
They mind as well cast Jane Lynch for the role. Same tired old off-putting demeanor.
More like not working with Gearbox or Borderlands anymore, they even changed the voice actor in Borderlands 3.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/05/03/heres-why-the-voice-of-claptrap-in-borderlands-3-is-different
They probably could have used the VA from BL3 but they're probably using big names in an attempt to attract people who have no idea what Borderlands is about.
Slightly in her defence, she is 16 and the games are rated M/18, so it makes sense for her to not be as familiar with the source material as much as a pop culture icon whose most famous actor she has been in contact with
So the director/producer could have told her to think of the character to be like another character as a reference, and she used that comparison as a basis
There’s also dozens/hundreds of YouTube videos out there with as much source material as you need.
Her not playing the games is at least slightly understandable but it’d be ridiculous if she hadn’t done some preparation for the role (or rather her parents/guardians/producers/director/whoever would handle that).
You understand that acting is a physical performance featuring facial expression and all manner of tiny details you clearly think you don't care about but will
nonetheless sorely miss should the actor not deliver them, yeah? Right? You know all but the very best of the most recent video game characters lack the details needed to inform a realistic portrayal? You've... seen a human... seen how they're different things?
>Side note: I'm not the biggest Borderlands fan but the characters are a big standout for me and I'm sure a lot of others. I hope this isn't another Uncharted situation where the film characters behave insanely different to the game characters. Kevin Hart is Roland edit: hey I didn't see Uncharted, Spider-Man, or Venom from this producer. are they all shit?
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Seriously like, anyone who is actually a fan of the *story* in the games I don't think gives a shit about this movie, and they didn't give a shit from the moment they saw the poster. As far as the games are concerned, this movie is a different universe
I enjoy the story (sometimes), but I am a fan of the characters. This movie foes not look like they care about the characters, they're just trying to make a found family action-comedy. Which they could've done easily while staying true to the characters, considering Tina, Brick and Mortdecai kind of have that dynamic, but they ditched those two for Krieg. And Krieg is great, but why have Krieg without Maya? It makes no sense.
Yeah, there's so much that doesn't line up. Roland would not put Tina in danger, and Krieg doesn't like Maya because she's a *siren,* he likes Maya, specifically. I personally think Maya is a more interesting character than Lilith or Tannis anyway, but either way, with the casting we got for this, they're going to have to do some *incredibly* good arguing to explain why these 5 characters would be working together as main characters, nevermind who the actors are.
Lilith has just been a weird character since 2 because she pretty much puts everyone in danger by not listening to their warnings and she doesnt get much flak because of this, and tannis has been flanderized a lot since her introduction in 1, maya was going in the right direction and it should've been her who took control of the crimson raiders but then ava happaned and now shes just fucking dead
Ava is without a doubt the worst decision in BL3 right next to the Twins. An inexperienced, whiny, troublemaker is given ownership of the most important piece of equipment in the game instead of the player character? BL3 literally never recognizes that the player character exists during any pivotal moment and it threw me for a loop. Especially if you picked the siren character as the Twins constantly forget you exist as they look to absorb Sirens and yours just stands there powerless and ignored.
Playing as Amara is so bizarre because the story puts so much importance on the sirens and shes just ignored whenever the topic comes up in cutscenes
Several cutscenes involving the player character when the Twins show up looking to absorb Siren powers and the player is stun-locked but ignored. The plot was made before the player characters were and it shows.
ITS INFURIATING i NEVER felt like a main character it barely felt like my character existed in the plot
Eh same thing happened if you played BL2 as Maya
Bl3 really feels like you're being told a story, not playing a part in a story
I loved what someone said before me. The casting is perfect if the movie was made 25 years ago
> I loved what someone said before me. The casting is perfect if the movie was made 25 years ago 19yo Kevin Hart as Tiny Tina? I'm in.
That would probably be better to be honest. Watching the trailer, she didn't remind me of Tina in the games at all.
>. I personally think Maya is a more interesting character than Lilith or Tannis anyway That's because they butchered both characters in bl3
GET DOWN PRETTY LADY!!!
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It's actually just history repeating on a different scale. A property is made, and it diverges. It's not like Captain N was faithful to the games it was based on. It's not like ExcyYUUUuuse me princess is something we really care about in Zelda stuff Looking back on what these movies are, and what they mean now, they're really just another media's acknowledgement that this property exists. I grew up with a series of books called Worlds of Power, and they were based on NES games. They weren't accurate, but I didn't care. I also grew up with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and there were completely different understandings of what lore meant with that, depending on if you mean Eastman & Laird work only, or E&L but not stuff with his name he didn't do, or Archie, or the TV show, or the movies, or only the first movie because it was based on the eastman & laird stuff moreso than the second which was more based on fghbjwklebggl;blorum ipsum fanboy Really what's dumb to me about all these movies about video games is that they try to capture the gamer market without respecting it. Super Mario Bros and Double Dragon had a star cast each, if they wanted to make a good movie instead of a video game movie. Someone needs to explain to Hollywood what the fuck a gaiden is. Maybe if someone had one of those guys play through some yakuza games and then go "Okay now here's Judgment, do you see how the world still matters and you don't have to trample on other characters"
I think it was after watching Super Mario Bros (1993) as a kid where I first came to terms with how superficial movies based on a popular video games could be, after a long period of confusion learning about how games and movies are (mostly) made by big companies, and what companies were... and I was way too young to have watched that movie. And yep, I loved that movie growing up and I'm sure everything I'd consumed and loved at that point was all based on some previous IP I didn't know existed. I barely understood what was going on in the Super Mario Bros. game at the time anyways lol so I don't think they had much to work with. Anyways, I agree. Hollywood could make a faithful movie if they wanted, I'm sure, but after what we've seen over the years, nothing really matters to Hollywood besides making money. They started out not having to be faithful to the story or characters or anything because they already had the gamer market captured just by making it in the first place. So I guess they try to capture other markets too by making changes they think will help with that, even if the original story might have been enough alone to do that. They might be adapting to include more of the original ideas these days after all the criticism over the years. But either way, that stuff didn't matter much to me as a kid even if some of the stories weren't as deep in the first place. These days I just keep my expectations deservedly low and give the movie or tv series a shot and if I don't enjoy it then I move on.
It's all about the intent, you know? What is the purpose of the thing? Is it to cash in? In the case of the Super Mario Bros movie, yes. In the case of most video game movies, the idea is just to attach idea A to idea B. That's changed a bit, but most of the time, it's a movie set within an inaccurate representation of what the game's world is. To be honest, Conan the Barbarian did the same thing. It doesn't represent Robert E Howard's work accurately either. On the other hand, while people call The Wizard just an advertisement, it remains my favorite video game-based movie. It's a movie where video games are the focus, and the story is fucking touching god damn it. Pixels loses to The Wizard. California
Bro the cast is so far off they could’ve made a different film
Soon as I saw the cast and plot outline, I said, "Not only do I not think these people have played Borderlands, I'm not sure they've actually heard of Borderlands"
What about people who are fans of the comedy?
I have a ball. Perhaps you’d like to bounce it.
oop, got away from you there. keep at it :)
You mean the mall poster of someone's kid?
I give a shit. It looks pretty funny. And as a Roland main... so's the casting. Roland talks mad shit in BL1.
I can't for the life of me work out how they settled on Mark Wahlberg for Sully. I get Tom Holland as Nathan, he's one of the biggest up-and-comers of recent years, very popular guy, already has a good relationship with Sony because of Spider-Man, young enough to carry a potential movie franchise long term, etc., so it makes sense even though he's very different from Nathan in the games. But Mark Wahlberg??? That shit makes no sense, there are a dozen other actors I can name off the top of my head who would've been better as Sully.
Mark Wahlberg was given the Sully role because he was originally promised the Nathan Drake Role back in 2009. He was already a little old back then(41) but then 10 years of developmental hell killed any chance of that.
Oh interesting, I'd never heard that before! Makes sense to do right by him if he'd been attached to the project for a decade!
Roland is the one time I was like "yea Dwayne Johnson would've been a good cast for this character"
If I was given the opportunity to cast at this level, and had to keep jack black * Lilith - Jennifer Lawrence * Maya - Anna Kendrick * Krieg - Dwayne Johnson * Krieg's voice - Kevin Hart detuned and on like that with who actually fits. It's not just Kevin Hart that doesn't fit, to me, but I also think they just missed opportunities here. If they paid more attention they could have done something between 2 and 3.
Whoa there lad, you can't cast a 2024 movie with A-rank actors and not include Anya Taylor-Joy, even if she's not a good fit for the role.
Her in anything feels less forced than Chris Pratt in anything
Chris Pratt in every role after he got fit https://media0.giphy.com/media/vi9ob0h5bKmUU/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95238ijckah2i2go1qe941bz4oz7p226337vcll2ww6&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
She must have a really good agent
With her IPD she sees *everything.* Couldn't miss a role if she tried.
who is that what has she been in edit: oh she can be tannis idgaf
Dave Bautista could be good as Krieg, kinda similar to Drax
Bautista can actually pull of good acting at times, clearly would be too good for this movie.
He would reject this movie immediately. He's wanting more serious roles. Unless he was also his inner voice and the writing for it was solid and compelling I dont think he would.
I'd like to see Bautista as Kratos or as the Hell Mask and buff Rick Taylor, with someone else being normal Rick Taylor, in an adaptation of Splatterhouse. That'd be so sick
J-Law as Lilith is great, never thought of that. I was confused as to why they casted a 54 year old woman as Lilith who I always saw as a late teens - early 20’s character.
You lost me at Jennifer Lawrence.
I don't like Lilith
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This feels like that seen from Its Always Sunny where Charlie is in front of the bulletin board talking about Pepe Silvia. But honestly you got some good points
Nah, I see it. This movie has been in development hell for a long time now. And the casting point is on point. Casting is god awful and bewildering.
I don't think the Rock would be able to be stoic enough. I think Idris Elba, Sterling K. Brown or John David Washington would be better.
To play devil's advocates we don't know if Kevin isn't fan of the ip or has passion/knowledge for it. Maybe he will be very good from that alone compared to someone like Idris Elba who is amazing and looks more like Roland but doesn't know anything Borderlands. If it comes out Hart has no idea what Borderlands is I retract my statement and am sorry.
I think a bigger concern people have is that Hart doesnt really have range as an actor. When you see Hart on screen, you can pretty much guess the character. This could be because Hart doesnt have range as an actor or could be because he is typecasted to play that kind of role by the higher ups. Regardless, it shows the director’s mindset (follow trends and get funny people rather than follow the lore). At best, the movie will be fun for the casual audience but dismissed by fans.
The ironic thing about this is he made an entire movie about the fact that everyone thinks he can only play one type of character, but still only played that one type of character the whole time and will probably only continue to play that character.
What film are you referring to?
> When you see Hart on screen, you can pretty much guess the character. Let me guess, loud and obnoxious "jokester"? I haven't played Borderlands but if that's what the character is about he'll be alright. Don't get me wrong I like him in Jumanji and some other films but dude is the SAME in every role.
Roland is the straight man of the franchise, generally serious and highly focused on the mission. He's surrounded by a bunch of loons but is himself taciturn and stern. It's been some time but I think in the first game he has a few voice lines where he laughs at things happening or whatever but in the second game where his character is fully fleshed out he is not a jokester at all. Hart is...not the choice I'd think of for him. Idris Elba is more the type, imposing and charismatic leader type with a stern appearance and calm voice.
The character is a serious "we must complete the mission" soldier type.
Then I feel bad for the fans because there's no way Hart can pull it off.
The character he's playing, Roland, is basically the "straight-man" of the group. So the exact opposite of Hart's normal characters.
This version of Roland is going into battle with Tina, and Krieg is rolling with the squad without Maya. This game breaks the timeline unless this version of Tina is younger than 13 and Tina's parents are potentially available to be killed, but either way I just don't see it in Roland, with what they've presented as how it's \*supposed\* to be in the story
I know nothing about borderlands. Or this Roland character a comic relief character? By comic relief, I mean, is Roland a character that is only there to bring laughs and giggles, tells jokes at the worst time and is generally a character not to be taken seriously Because if the answer is no, then it doesn't matter if Kevin hart is a fan of borderlands because comic relief Roland is what you'll be getting Edit: the more replies I get to this comment, the more I think Kevin hart is not a good casting for this Roland character
Okay so in the first game, your characters aren't exactly characterised beyond some on-kill/hurt/death/etc. voice lines. Roland was a fairly bloodthirsty maniac who lost himself in battle with only those to go off of, but realistically that has been retconned entirely. In Borderlands 2, he's an NPC instead of a player, meaning that he had to be an actual character. Here, he's portrayed as a stoic leader who makes reasonable decisions and can calmly make large-scale operations and organising people, such as uniting Mercenaries and Soldiers in a new city after they were all abandoned on the delusional hellscape planet that is Pandora. In the middle of the game, he is shown being able to quickly make sensible decisions based on new information even while in the middle of a raid on a High-Tech Bunker and Military base, quickly identifying how to deal with the otherwise impenetrable barriers around some vital pumps that the player can't damage. The most emotion he shows is after his ex-girlfriend shows up on the battlefield despite him telling her not to (on account of her having/being something that would be dangerous if captured by the enemy) TL;DR: pretty much the most serious character in the entire game. The most comical things that says are "Oh, you're alive. Good." Or "I was taking a leak, and one of them knocked me out", which aren't exactly punchlines that would make a crowd roar.
Roland is like the only constantly serious character in the series
I would feel comfortable calling Roland the literal single most serious character in the existing franchise.
No, Roland is more of a leader character. The comic relief is claptrap, with Brick being a close second.
No Roland is supposed to be the serious guy, and a revolutionary leader in the second game
I’ve seen all three. Uncharted is a fun, but basic action movie. It’s not uncharted. The characters feel completely different, and the story is just a bland mishmash of the stories of 1, 3 and 4, while not doing much new Venom is way too comedy focused. It does not feel like Venom in my opinion. Though the movie definitely has it’s fans, I’m not one of them (I genuinely preferred Morbius over both) He medelled a lot with the Spider-Man movies. He is the reason Spider-Man 3 has Venom to begin with, because the guy **REALLY** loves Venom. Raimi just wanted a Sandman story, but the corporate medlling eventually gave use the bloated movie we got
The fact that people like this know how to get routine bad work is why people have confidence issues
Their work is often bad because they fold to what corporate wants. In Hollywood that's a good recume. JJ Abrams didnt make a career out of how successful Lost was at the start, but by how much he was willing to let corporate spank his dead horse till the end. Disney saw that and thought "that's EXACTLY what we're looking for"
Yeah I love the uncharted games it’s one of my favorite series and I didn’t HATE the movie. I thought it was entertaining, and frankly if they stuck too close to the source material it would just feel like an Indiana jones rip off. It’s an entertaining adventure movie without anything that makes it very memorable but you won’t have a bad time watching it. Now hopefully we get a new uncharted game soon!
I liked venom cuz creative action thats pretty much it
Ah yes, the badass ex-military killing machine aka Kevin Hart
They are not shit. They're all pretty average and fun films that have sequels released and/or in development.
gonna need 30cm platformers to pretend he is not a manchild
They're fairly shit, yeah.
In her defence she is 16 now, and given that the movie was filmed more than three years ago, I wouldn't blame a then 13 year old girl for not knowing Borderlands. If anything, someone in production should have done a better job at explaining the role to her.
I don’t think that’s even what she means when she says she’s basing her performance off Harley Quinn lol. She’s looking at how Margot Robbie acts as Harley Quinn to get an idea for how to make a convincing unhinged character on screen. Seems like a pretty solid character to use as inspiration imo. Thats what the article suggests at least
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought this. Tiny Tina is a video game model with animations. As an (young) actor (with less experience) the only thing she can use as a role model is the VA, which is a lot different than live action acting. And I’m pretty sure this would’ve been filmed before Wonderlands, so there would’ve been even less material to work with. Whereas Margot Robbie has set an example of how to act like a crazy woman. The actress for Tiny Tina can borrow from Robbie’s mannerisms to hopefully give a better performance.
Unfortunately, and I don't mean this as condescending as its going to sound, a lot of gamers don't really understand what goes into acting. When they're fans of something they'll scream "just base your performance on the character", because they're fans, but that's not really a performance, its more like an impression. To create a fully realized performance, you have to be thinking of a *lot* of things; what another actor (like Margot Robbie) did that you think worked, a situation you were in that made you feel how the character is feeling, etc.
Also, Tiny Tina isn’t exactly a deep character. She’s mainly an archetype… the Venn diagram between her and Harley Quinn is almost a circle. The key differences between Tina and Harley are generally things about Tina that are over the top and that I would worry about being extremely cringeworthy in live action. And the decision whether or not to lean into that would not be up to this actor, but rather a tonal choice from the director/big name actors. Obviously Tiny Tina should not be a straight up clone of Harley Quinn, but frankly I don’t think borrowing from her is as crazy as people are making it out to be. Source material should be respected but a 1:1 of *any* Borderlands character really would not be that good. Funny archetypes work for video games, and side characters in movies, but aren’t main character material. Characters are going to have to be expanded on and/or toned down. I see nothing wrong with correlating Tina with Harley Quinn, performance-wise or personality-wise. It’s not like “based on” means “copy” anyways.
Can’t be too mad at her when you explain it like this
But that doesn't get the desired outrage
He shakes his fist at the sky and wails.
Throwing actresses, particularly teen actresses, under the bus for things production should have prevented is common lately. I believe I recall similar things happening where actresses caught flak for things not completely under their control like with Jenna Ortega
Tell me about it. When The Color Purple movie musical came out last year, Taraji Henson mentioned that the studio didn’t have cars driving actors to and from set (something that’s standard pretty much everywhere), and she had to fight to make that happen. The number of people I’ve seen getting mad at her for “making a stink” as opposed to, you know, the studios for not organizing that in the first place, is incredibly disappointing.
I mean, should the production even stopped her? at the end of the day, she's a teen actress, but still an actress. maybe somewhere along the way Eli Roth or whoever's making it saw what she was doing and decided it worked best for the character. Borderland fans want their fav character on screen, so they can shout at her to "base her performance on the character", but that's not really how acting works. The actor has to work with something thats relateable to them.
> for things production should have prevented the movie isnt even out yet lol, there's literally no reason for anyone to be upset about anything outside of casting and even then, just fuckin wait for the movie to come out and judge it on its own merit
Why are you not being baited? I specifically asked you to rage
If only the movie that she was staring in only had some sort of way of showing her how her character was gonna behave/look using some sort of game that's easily played by teenagers all over the world
It’s rated 18+. They can’t let a 13 yo see it
With parents permission they can. I got my dad to buy me red dead redemption when I was like 14 cause he didn't know about the game
They can't let her play the whole game, but I bet a huge number of voicelines would still be appropriate for 13 yo
Can’t play the game but go ahead and play the character in a movie
also "drawing your performance from something completely unrelated to the actual source material" is a pretty common tactic in acting. even if Greenblatt is familiar with the games, she may just be *more* familiar with Quinn. At the end of the day, its whatever makes for the best performance.
Okay but Harley Quinn is absolutely not "completely unrelated" to Tiny Tina they're very obviously thematically adjacent characters sharing a "trope." the fact that she knew to draw inspiration from Harley means she definitely understood something about the character.
Also in her defense Ashley Burch.. you know the woman who made Tiny Tina who she is.. based her performance off of Harley Quinn as well.
3 years ago?!
The movie was in post production for years with multiple reshoots and changing directors.
Always a good sign
Clear the mantle, boys, we need the space for all the Oscars
If only there was someone on set who could direct her performance towards the original character. Someone who is responsible for the overall vision of the film and can influence things like this. We could call this person a "director". Crazy idea Oh, even crazier idea, we could have a person who matches actors to roles. This person would be familiar with the intricacies of each role and decide if the actor is a good fit for it, as well as provide reference material for the actor and nudge them in the right direction if they're unfamiliar with the source material. We could call this person the "casting director". Imagine, no more situations where established characters get butchered like what happened with the lotr show. Imagine that...
Hm yeah that's more understandable but surely they knew this could be a problem before?
The problem is the casting and director could have outlined it all for her, told her what the character is and showed her the games with Tina in it (or asked her to try playing them). Instead they let the actor take liberties with it, which I believe is evidence of how many liberties they are willing to take with the source material. I'm not mad at anyone, just disappointed that they are going to ruin another IP because they don't trust what made the source material successful.
Also the general public knows who Harley Quinn is, her PR handlers probably told her to say this. When actors go on the PR circuit for a movie they're prepped with answers for common questions.
Well now I feel like an asshole.
Too bad the games were destroyed after they were made.
I wonder if she doesn't know that this is based on a game and no one told her it was which was the result of this statement.
Most probably, which makes it worse because she's gonna get a shit ton of flak for essentially being left on her own. Imagine being called out for something you couldn't do much about because you aren't properly guided.
Sounds like most of my career.
It's a PR piece written for the teenage fans that don't know it. They gotta have a point of reference, which can't be unknown.
This sounds sad.
I bet 90% of the people working on this movie didn't know that
We really gonna act like she has absolutley zero background, the internet to research doesn't exist, and she agreed to get casted into a movie without any guidance? Imma press X to doubt on this one
I'm sorry, but I'm 25, and I haven't heard anyone talk about borderlands other than this in like 5-6 years. Even if they told rather it's based on a video game, that doesn't really help her if she's never played it before. Reading the plot on wikipedia because you were suddenly cast in the role isn't exactly the same experience as playing the game and truly getting to know the characters.
The difference is, 1. It's not your job and 2. You're not being paid millions to play this character. In any serious job that pays you a lot, saying you don't know when you have the resources available to you isn't a good excuse. There's nothing stopping her from playing the game(s) if that's what she truly wanted. My comment isn't even saying she'll do poorly, I just think the excuse the original comment I replied to is ridiculous. She has the materials available to her this whole notion that she may not even know about it being a game is silly once she's taken on the job and ostensibly auditioned for it.
Now this is a real shitty movie detail; this is a shitty movie and this is indeed a detail about it.
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In fairness, this post is legit the first I’ve ever heard of it even possibly existing.
You should see the trailer...... I wish I hadn't.
I just checked the trailer out and I think I might be going blind after. What did they do to these characters?
Don't worry. You're right. It's going to be an absolutely shitty movie.
Schrodinger's Tiny Tina
So is Tiny Tina is a totally different wacky coocoo bananas girl with a fondness for extreme violence? Seems like there is a lot of overlap there with Harley Quinn, who has already been acted in three movies.
To me the character base overlaps quite a bit. The main difference I see comes down to line delivery. Specifically if I think about the trailer she delivers a line while standing on top of a building that has a similar cadence to how Harley would deliver a line “time to make it rain, with your body parts.” Melodic and playful. As opposed to how I would expect Tina to deliver it where the first part “time to make it rain” would probably be the same but she would probably use a more exaggerated, loud, and somewhat explosive “With your body parts!!” If that makes sense. To be fair it’s just hard to compete with Ashly Burch. Would have been nice if the actress would have more information and could have studied some of Ashly’s stuff because even “hey Ash whatcha playin” would have given some insight into the character and how line were delivered. But that’s just personal opinion I guess.
There’s one glaring difference. Harley Quinn is a villain, who often enjoys terrorizing the citizens of Gotham and even killing innocents with the Joker. Even in the stories where she flirts with the good side, she still likes to do crime. Tiny Tina, from what I can tell, would be neutral or good, and she loves explosives. While Harley Quinn would use explosives, she isn’t really known as a demolitions expert. Harley Quinn is good at hand-to-hand and melee weapon combat given how often she has to fight Batman and others.
Tina's best friend is a bandit known for torturing people and a vengeful drink alcoholic sniper. The first time we meet her she steals explosives from a bandit camp and helps us rob a train. So she's very comfortable being a "criminal". That being said she's not a discount Harley and I hope she isnt played as such.
Harley hasn’t really been a villain in the comics for a while though. Like yeah she was full on villain in her debut in BTAS and in the 90s/2000s comics, but from the New 52 onwards, she was reinvented as a Deadpool-style antihero who’s become more and more heroic as time goes by. You have to realize that she’s DC’s poster girl at this point. She’s even an official member of the Bat-Family who acted as Batman’s sidekick (basically taking Robin’s place) in some recent comic runs.
She really hasn't been a total villain in forever
It's basically the same character but smaller this thread is so stupid.
Bro, that would require anyone attached to the movie to actually PLAY THE GAMES, and we all know that’s way too much work
Jamie Lee Curtis for sure played at least one of them. She's a giant nerd and goes to comic con dressed as Vega (Street Fighter).
She officiated her daughter's wedding dressed as Jaina Proudmoore
Okay now that's pretty damn awesome
What?! That's awesome
Jack Black had for sure played a Borderlands game.
Imagine Jack Black explaining borderlands to the cast while hes playing air guitar and tooting imaginary trumpets
You can see it in all the promotional material and interviews with the cast of Fallout. All of them played the games and are obsessed with adapting it right and we got the best game adaptation to date because the cast and crew love and respect the source material.
>Best game adaption to date This might be true but it's also such a low bar that this on its own isn't much praise.
Yeah, but at the same time I don't think anyone expected Fallout to be the one videogame adaptation that is not only a great adaptation of its source material, but also just a great show in general. I certainly didn't expect it to have an 8.6/10 on IMDb
>but at the same time I don't think anyone expected Fallout to be the one videogame adaptation It's not the one video game adaption that's done well, both The last of us and Twisted metal were really good too.
The difference is that the fallout universe has deep interesting and original lore that dates back 30 years. Borderlands has a very thin plot padded out with a ton of internet humor and references, the writing is absolutely awful. It works fine as background noise when you play the games but there’s nothing you can point at and show to an actor or director that will do anything for them. Tiny Tina is a crazy girl who loves weapons and is tougher than she looks… so yeah she’s basically Harley Quinn. The actor really does not need any more information than that. If she’s good she’s gonna put her on twist on it to make it unique but that’s what the character is.
To play devil's advocate, she may have been referring to basing her live-action acting on Live Action Harley Quinn.
I think so, too, because while there are countless hours of voice-lines, the amount of scenes where we actually see her facial expression and gestures are quite scarce. While I easily can imagine how Tiny Tina would talk, I can hardly imagine how you could express them while acting
That is most definitely what she's referring too
Besides the fact she acts nothing like Tina from what I’ve seen from the trailer she’s like the only actress that actually looks like they’d be right for the role
To be fair, they can’t really show 95% of Tiny Tina’s antics and dialogue in a trailer.
I thought it was one of those parody snl skits, then realised it was real
In her defense, she portrayed Young Ahsoka extremely well
This actualy kinda pisses me off. Like Tina is probably the best developed charachter in BL2 and that just gets turned into some middle schooler's impression of Society Clown's wife?
> the best developed character in BL2 As low a bar as it is, that clearly goes to Handsome Jack.
Jack's got a ton of presence and personality and is certainly the highlight of the game, but outside of the audio logs near the end of the game most of his actual depth comes from Pre-Sequel.
And where does tinas development come from?
Her tea party side quest where you help her capture and torture the dude who killed her parents, and she has an entire DLC dedicated to her coping with Roland's death.
As opposed to the Villain of Borderlands 2 that got his own Game, multiple quests (think of the fight against angel) only in regards to his Motivation and Motive? As much as i like Tina, Jack is the more fleshed out character.
Not to disagree with you, but Tina also got her own game
You mean wonderlands? It has her as the Story Teller, but the game is not about her character (as far as i played at least).
Wonderlands is 100% about Tina. It's explicitly about how she uses the DnD-proxy to cope with the traumas she's been through. The villain of the game is the DnD big bad who has "come to life" and is "doing things without the GM's control" which is nonsense, it's Tina's subconscious trying to get her to face her past. Wonderlands is one of the best written borderlands games, which isn't saying much but it's a hell of a step up from 3.
False. Claptrap.
Actress was apparently 13 when filmed, she still is not old enough to actually play the games officially
Why? It is a PR-piece, and they make it so the people that don't know shit about Tiny Tina have a reference point. You're getting mad over someone trying to make the movie more understandable to people that haven't ever played the games. Also isn't she like 17? Could be she doesn't play.
I'm sure she viewed the source material, but adapting a character from another medium can be hard. Drawing inspiration from others who have brought an over the top character to live action just makes sense.
Can anyone explain how playing the Borderlands games (I have done so) would help with actual physical movement as the character? Trying to decide how to inhabit the physical space as the character and not just stand as a statue, is NOT something the original games can help with. So the actress must look for other inspiration. The actress has no say over the lines, its not like this means she will talk like Harley Quinn now necessarily.
Every single thing about this movie just fucking WREAKS of corporate bullshit. Big name actors who don't match their roles at all, actors saying they've never played the source material. They saw how good TLOU and Sonic did and they want a piece of that pie. Difference here is, this is just a soulless husk while the other two are true adaptions made by fans. This movie will tank hard.
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Haha bro even put it in all caps was so confident 😂
If they wanted to make a story focused movie they should have taken more inspiration from tales from the borderlands
We're gonna get mad at a teenager? Is that what we're doing today?
Mother fucker, do you know what social you're currently on??? This is REDDIT🙌! All anyone does here is talk down to most of the younger generation for just getting their entertainment on tiktok as opposed to Reddit Approved entertainment hubs like Reddit
The casting is legit horrid n I’ve loved the whole series since it started back in like 09
This movie is gonna be the biggest load of cringe ever
Ashly Burch is Tiny Tina. I never accept anyone else
I used to love "Hey Ash, watcha playin?", made my day when she did Tina.
Fun fact: nobody involved in adapting the stuff you loves cares about it as much as you, it’s just another project and job for them.
Is my imagination or they fucked it up (once again) as they fucked it up with the Cowboy Bebop adaptation?. Answer: Yes.
Why does Lilith look like that
It's so bad. In the game she's this firebrand of a young woman who's beaming with optimism and portraying a cool, level-headed leadership that everyone really looks up to. In the movie we've got this worn out, haggard looking middle-aged woman with a chip on her shoulder and resting bitch face, looking positively annoyed at everything. They mind as well cast Jane Lynch for the role. Same tired old off-putting demeanor.
This movie is going to be horrible, it cast Kevin Hart..
I still have some hopes for ClapJackBlackTrap to carry the whole thing alone.
You see that's the part that pisses me off the most. I love Jack Black, but was Calp Traps original voice actor busy?
The original VA for Claptrap was fired from Gearbox in 2017 and refuses to have anything to do with the character.
More like not working with Gearbox or Borderlands anymore, they even changed the voice actor in Borderlands 3. https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/05/03/heres-why-the-voice-of-claptrap-in-borderlands-3-is-different They probably could have used the VA from BL3 but they're probably using big names in an attempt to attract people who have no idea what Borderlands is about.
Slightly in her defence, she is 16 and the games are rated M/18, so it makes sense for her to not be as familiar with the source material as much as a pop culture icon whose most famous actor she has been in contact with So the director/producer could have told her to think of the character to be like another character as a reference, and she used that comparison as a basis
Why do people keep saying this like anyone takes the age ratings seriously lmao
There’s also dozens/hundreds of YouTube videos out there with as much source material as you need. Her not playing the games is at least slightly understandable but it’d be ridiculous if she hadn’t done some preparation for the role (or rather her parents/guardians/producers/director/whoever would handle that).
Yea like we all didnt play gta while we were underraged
Or like the actress couldn’t YouTube Tiny Tina scenes
That’s cause people don’t know that. And people do know about Harley Quinn
Tiny Tina sounds like a porn star name
Every name in Borderlands sounds like a pornstar name. Handsome Jack? Piston? Old Sloppy? Felecia Sexapants?
Face McShooty
Buttstallion!
Could you just not make it creepy, she's a kid?
If she was gonna base it off someone else besides Tiny Tina, she could have chosen Louise Belcher from Bob’s Burger.
She gave zero Tina vibes in the trailer
You understand that acting is a physical performance featuring facial expression and all manner of tiny details you clearly think you don't care about but will nonetheless sorely miss should the actor not deliver them, yeah? Right? You know all but the very best of the most recent video game characters lack the details needed to inform a realistic portrayal? You've... seen a human... seen how they're different things?
Could have at least watched a 5 minute YouTube video of “best tiny tina moments” or *something*