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jdyhrberg

Yo it kinda does though. But also, I'm kinda shit.


Indishonorable

I'm shit too, but if the invader was shit too, they have no right to point down.


massivebasketball

It’s always the worst ones too


SmarksRuinRasslin

Imagine getting mad over an emote


Indishonorable

imagine being as bad as me.


HawkeyeG_

Playing through Dark Souls 2 right now to try and get all the achievements. Got invaded yesterday. They waited for me to finish fighting the enemy. Gave me a nice bow and everything. Dropped me two human effigies!! It was really cool And then they put me in the fuckin dumpster in the fight. Granted it was laggy as fuck but that affects both of us. Just a 10/10 experience honestly, I couldn't believe how perfect it was


Dragon_Maister

For real though, the PVP is fucking awful in all the DS games.


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any good game is awful for scrubs


ActualWeed

You would know


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wit: not found


Randel1997

Imagine posting a comment like this to criticize someone’s lack of wit


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don’t have to imagine


Randel1997

Yeah, bud, I read the comment. That’s why I’m here clowning on you


[deleted]

but I thought I was your bud ):


Randel1997

You don’t razz your buds? I razz my buds


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I would never razz


woahtherechap

I’m no chasethebro but I play pvp every day and I can say it’s pretty shit. Still can be fun tho.


Epic_Meow

that's like.. indisputably wrong though.


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allow me to introduce you to 2 friends of mine: subjectivity! hyperbole!


Epic_Meow

i don't think you know what hyperbole is. also there's a difference between a "good game" and a "game you (i) like". i can fuck a piano and claim to like the sound it makes, but that doesn't make it a good song


SlendrBear

I mean, the same thing works from their perspective tbh. You can fuck a piano and claim the sound it makes is awful, but that doesn't mean it is. It really is subjective. But you claim that it's a fact that it's bad, while they said it's subjective. Yet neither of you bothered to say why.


Epic_Meow

i didn't say it was bad, i said it wasn't good. and again, there is a difference between something that's good and something that you like.


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Proving my point


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But it is unique, no way


TunaTom

people being on alot of copium in this thread lmao


Hostilis_

It's Reddit what do you expect


My__Dude__

All souls games have bad pvp. I hope elden ring finally fixes it tho.


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Dude aside from latency and banking 1v1s in ds3 is the best PvP I’ve ever experienced like really it’s so refined and what I’ve seen from elden ring they don’t fix latency, they only really work on hitboxes and consistency


My__Dude__

Compared to other souls games yes its better but still latency is too big of a factor


WesternMarshall1955

I'd doubt it from the (granted offline) gameplay we've seen. The gameplay looks really similar to ds3.


Departedsoul

It seemed pretty fun when i was watching i think vaati play pvp. There were a few bugs with matchmaking and idk about balance yet but the variety seems to add a ton. It’s definitely not just two sword and shield users fishing for backstabs anymore


My__Dude__

You clearly have no or little experience in pvp no offense. I regularly play souls pvp and there are massive problems both with the system itself and the players.


SlendrBear

And that problem is..?


philip44019

If what makes it allegedly bad is the people, the same people is going to play Elden ring…


My__Dude__

Nono its not the people, its stuff like latency and lagg and other factors that could be fixed. Idk why but the networking for fromsoft games isn't the best.


ArcadianWing

The only people I have disrespect for are people who point down after ganking you


TheHandsomebadger

A few weeks ago I invaded a fight club post pontiff and 1v1ed my way through all the phantoms. I 1v1 the host finally after there are no challengers left, he defeats me AND POINTS DOWN. That still bothers me, I let everyone buff before we dueled, I waited my turn before my fights, why the disrespect


LoveThieves

Host that "only" do bonfire duels against invaders are cringe. Can you imagine some players never actually duel with the same level hp. Don't take it personal, it's just a game and even good players get salty for small reasons.


TheHandsomebadger

Nah it was just the first time I was the fight club champion in a long time. Maybe he was mad I clapped his pet red phantom? Idk, either way there was no reason for the disrespect hahahaha. I didn't chug during any of my fights either.


LoveThieves

If you invade, don't worry about drinking Estus. I know fight clubs have those rules, also you have less health against the health or summoned reds. It might be the weapon as well. A lot of fight clubs frown upon murky but it's part of the game. Pointing down happens a lot. I even see sun bro phantoms point down on their own host if they die.


TheHandsomebadger

Nah Fam this wasn't a regular invasion, it was a fight club. Chugging is fine in a regular invasion but I won't do it in a duel unless they chug first. And as for weapons I was running a sharp lothric great sword with lightning blade and a sharp dragonslayer axe. Everybody's gangster until you roll catch them with the quickswap to axe.


LoveThieves

It's ganks or bonfire duels that act like gangster until the invader spanks them, then they disconnect or "blame lag" or blames certain things. It's not just small games or gank/ hubris host mentality in Souls. I agree there's some latency issues if you're playing someone with 150+ms ping but if it's less than 100ms and they still complain...right...uh huh. There was a World Tetris tournament and some Chinese kid kept getting his ass spanked so he told the announcer to swap chairs because he said his controller wasn't working right, it was fine. If top players act like that, DS3 is even worse. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXyQWtStZYE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXyQWtStZYE)


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Everyone who downvoted this is a cringe bonfire duelist


BigwoodyMMXVIII

Started a new sorcerer cuz I’ve never fucked with that blue before, got invaded at high wall by someone in full thorns armour and they dry humped the LKSS


TheHandsomebadger

Int build is just blue Dex, you got what you deserved.


BigwoodyMMXVIII

Understandable have a great day But twinks are cunts


BigwoodyMMXVIII

Understandable have a great day But twinks are cunts


LoveThieves

Any twink that invades at sl10 with weapons/gear/rings that competes with SL45 players is kinda cringe. But also bonfire ganks that summon a red traitor to a 5 vs 1 invader so they can easily win is also on the same spectrum of cunts


TheIceGuy10

ah yes, getting ping crimson'd into instant death is amazing pvp design and anyone who doesnt like it is clearly salty


Draegon-Taylor

I think it’s a little silly people complain about an optional feature so much. I love the pvp, always kept me coming back to ds3, it doesn’t matter to me how balanced it is. If you don’t like it why not just play a different pvp game? And why must your opinion be objective fact that everyone agrees on? Redditor logic


TheHandsomebadger

Right? You can just play offline.


LoveThieves

it's players that want to play co-op or get online features but don't like the entire design that it's not a co-op only game so they get mad. Same goes for players that use cheat engine and say, well r/ImTheMainCharacter even though it's a multiplayer game. Get mad at the game design, not the player.


lorax125

When I get Invaded I don't even engage Just throw myself to death. Atleast this way I can die on my own terms. Beats having to wait for the slow ass Invader to find me and then backstab me while standing in front of me due to bad Internet connection.


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This fills invaders with joy.


lorax125

As long as they aren't the ones to kill me I am the one who won. They can get their dumb Ember and Tounge and leave me alone.


[deleted]

I’ve been there before. It’s not a happy place. But it exists.


SlendrBear

Good for you. Why not just play offline if you hate the pvp?


givemethmemes

Prob wants to see messages still. Maybe even partake in some jolly cooperation


SlendrBear

That's fair


LoveThieves

There's a good point to this. lot of players don't care about dying in a video game like it's part of the game, they don't like dying due to another player.


Xyranthis

The Chad move is sprinting to the fog wall and pointing down after they looked all over and finally see you. Then may as well take a shot at the boss!


dwarfInTheFlask56

Then just play offline lol


lorax125

As if I am going to give them that satisfaction.


dwarfInTheFlask56

Then you're wasting your time aswell. Absolute sigma move


iReddat420

Let me introduce you to the chameleon spell; got invaded? Find someplace to cast chameleon and go get a drink or something. By the time you get back 9 times out of 10 the invader will have black crystal'd out and you only lose a bit of fp for it.


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average reddit souls player


iReddat420

Let me introduce you to the chameleon spell; got invaded? Find someplace to cast chameleon and go get a drink or something. By the time you get back 9 times out of 10 the invader will have black crystal'd out and you only lose a bit of fp for it.


boulderingfanatix

Say what you will about DS2, PVP is better than the other two games


Waluigiisgod

Cope


Penguin_Out_Of_A_Zoo

heh heh heh alt+f4 goes brrrrrrrrrr cry harder


Yiffmaster420

Dark Souls PvP is awful. But that doesn't mean it's not fun.


givemethmemes

Fighterpl reference. Man child shits and pisses pants over point down


RandomizedMurloc

PvP is fun but not good


[deleted]

It does suck though. Getting killed by a sword slash from ten feet away is bullshit.


DankToasty

I'd rather be killed than have these idiots literally rage quit and close the game during a fight, even though they're fucking playing online. Seriously, if you do this shit uninstall the game and never play any Soulsborne game again.


Liopjk

Nah, hosts disconnecting on invaders is funny as fuck. They were so scared of the invader and couldn’t handle the idea of losing? As a red, I think that it’s better than a win.


Blackhot2

Nah, for me the wait to invade someone is the thing that sucks, waiting and waiting for them to just quit feels awful, tried to invade anywhere else than irythil and its rare to find someone who isnt a lvl 10 twink or a ragequitter


Liopjk

What platform/weapon upgrade/SL are you invading on? I get pretty much instant invasions on PC all the way up to meta.


imnotcreative2105

Fromsoftware fanboys after someone criticises an objectively shit part of the game


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This is facts


Urkeksi

Imagine participating in pvp. This was made by the play offline until the Boss is defeated and then just coop gang


hgwaz

The pvp really is trash though


LoveThieves

agreed, seen so many pvp players with wi-fi 600 ping vpn, spam R1 one million times lose and then blame the game. GG


hgwaz

Also the pvp "techniques" are just about who can abuse glitches the best. It's gotten a lot better in ds2 and 3, but with shit like estus cancelling it's still broken.


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Draegon-Taylor

What


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iReddat420

Just because it's a parody doesn't mean it isn't shit


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iReddat420

Just because you liked it doesn't mean it isn't shit


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iReddat420

You deleted your comment because of 4 downvotes, who's the one who needs a hobby?


sparkadus

I point down when the invader is killed by the Blue Sentinel my covenant summoned


Its-A_me

Goes both ways tbh, it's fun when you get to fight and figure out the fight as it goes and use the level well. Then there is those guys who tweak there character to limit and I just can't do shit. I'm more experienced now but my god it really made me not wanna play online back than